Demi-Pharaoh/Bastet/DP Debates/March2010 1

• 2010-03-20 03:06:00 Draim: ****WELCOME****
• 2010-03-20 03:06:31 Draim: We are now going to start the Bastet Shard's first DP Debate/ Q&A
• 2010-03-20 03:07:10 Draim: We are going to start out with an introduction from the candidates (done in the random order of where they are on my /chat list of Izzy, Amethyst and then Orishas)
• 2010-03-20 03:07:19 Draim: we will then open it up for questions for ALL three candidates
• 2010-03-20 03:07:24 Draim: allowing each to answer
• 2010-03-20 03:08:14 Draim: once those start to dry up and/or get repetitve we will accept questions for individual candidates (hopefully based on what they said before)
• 2010-03-20 03:08:30 Draim: If you have questions please feel free to send them in at any time because I will sticky them for later
• 2010-03-20 03:09:04 Draim: if they are for all please start them with FOR ALL: if they are for an individual please start them with FOR x with x being which ever candidate you wish to answer
• 2010-03-20 03:09:23 Draim: as we wind down we will allow each candidate to say somthing in closing if they wish
• 2010-03-20 03:09:46 Draim: starting off will be Izzy! please let us know when you are done :)
• 2010-03-20 03:09:51 Izzy: Good evening Egypt, for those that don't know me I'm Izzy formerly known as Iznobetter here on this shard. I've been playing this game since late in t2 i love it and will probably never leave it as I am addicted to the many facets of it especially the complexities of things like wine, beer and chemistry. I've spent the better part of this tale dedicating my time and energy (as well as that of my loving very supportive husband, ty honey) to research to help further the advancement of the game. I'm very diplomatic by nature and while not all problems can be solved diplomatically I am ready willing and able to give it my best to help egypt have a peaceful loving cooperative gaming experience.
• 2010-03-20 03:11:15 Izzy: i'll leave it at that for now so i don't go on all night and bore people to sleep
• 2010-03-20 03:11:54 Draim: **Thank you Izzy. Next up we are going to have Amethyst
• 2010-03-20 03:12:07 Amethyst: Thanks Izzy. Good afternoon Bastetians!
• 2010-03-20 03:12:18 Amethyst: I'm Amethyst. I am, I suppose, a newer player.
• 2010-03-20 03:12:32 Amethyst: I played the last few months of T1, and have only returned to Bastet.
• 2010-03-20 03:12:44 Amethyst: I am, however, a very fast learner :D
• 2010-03-20 03:13:16 Amethyst: My camp is in Nomad's Paradise. There are very few people here, but ask anyone here and they all know me.
• 2010-03-20 03:13:57 Amethyst: With so few people around, we've concentrated on research areas that open up resources such as bulbs and seeds for the rest of Egypt.
• 2010-03-20 03:14:21 Amethyst: I have also supervised the building of a small civic area where the CS used to be.
• 2010-03-20 03:14:48 Amethyst: And, I suppose most of you might have heard of me in connection with a law petition to help block a certain tactic in obelisk building.
• 2010-03-20 03:15:36 Amethyst: I like to work out a goal, and then work toward it. The challenge comes in finding ways to do things - you'll never ever hear me whining that something is too hard.
• 2010-03-20 03:16:25 Amethyst: I plan to approach being DP in much the same way. Work out what CAN be done - then work out how to accomplish that.
• 2010-03-20 03:16:33 Amethyst: Thanks for your time. Over to Orishas!
• 2010-03-20 03:16:44 Orishas: Hello, Egypt. I'm honored to have gotten this far. I had a group group in the previous round and I think all of us were geniunely interested in both doing well in the position and chooseing the best candidates. I guess you could say I'm fairly new. I never played in tale 3 or 4, and I was a casual player in the first 2 tales. Atitd was a second hobby of mine so I never really got involved in the DP process. This time around, atitd is my main hobby. I am enjoying myself alot and see myself pla
• 2010-03-20 03:17:23 Orishas: playing through the end of the tale. In my RL experiences I've worked as a manager of front desk at a hotel and as part of that I've had to do a lot of mediation of conflicting personalities. As a gamer I've played games casually, "hardcore", seriously, just for fun, I've been the informed player, the "noob" so I think I know the perspective of a wide variety of playstyles.
• 2010-03-20 03:18:12 Orishas: If elected DP I will fully embrace the role, and give my all to taking that role and helping egypt the best I can.
• 2010-03-20 03:18:45 Draim: thank you very much Orishas and all of you
• 2010-03-20 03:18:58 Draim: Our first quesiton for each of you comes from Sawyer
• 2010-03-20 03:19:27 Sawyer: for all: what is your primary concern that makes you wish to become a dp rather than someone else?
• 2010-03-20 03:21:54 Amethyst: Sawyer, I expect that any number of us would make good DPs. I believe that I am one of those people. Why me and not the next person? I believe that I have shown, with my legal actions, that I can identify a problem and offer a solution, a finely crafted solution, that doesn't target specific people.
• 2010-03-20 03:23:01 Orishas: My interest in the position is not really 'concern' or fear that it will go to the wrong person, but it is I feel something I do well.
• 2010-03-20 03:23:25 Orishas: I have a passion for this game and I think I would be a lot of energy to the position.
• 2010-03-20 03:24:12 Izzy: I wouldn't say i would rather it be me than someone else so much, In fact i think we as a community are in great hands at the end of this election regardless of which of us wins
• 2010-03-20 03:25:30 Draim: Thank you all 3 are next question is from Robkin (and moderators note PLEASE send in more questions :)
• 2010-03-20 03:25:33 Draim: For all from Robkin: Since this Shard was made to bring in new players and bring back old players. What have you done to help with this?
• 2010-03-20 03:26:47 Orishas: Well, I personally somewhat fit both categories so I say it has been, at least, a minor success. I've also joined the 'Mentors Of Egypt' guild as a mentor which focuses on helping new players get started and learn about the game.
• 2010-03-20 03:27:39 Izzy: I spend a lot of time answering questions from new players as well as helping by letting them use buildings at my home
• 2010-03-20 03:28:20 Amethyst: Robkin: I am one of these new/former players that you mention! I'd like to think that our civic area would help any new person who prefers the boonies to the bit city (there are some of us who do!). I also think that being elected DP would show that you don't have to have been playing for 5 years to get somewhere.
• 2010-03-20 03:29:24 Draim: Thank you all again, Our next question is from Mercille
• 2010-03-20 03:29:26 Mercille: to all: when someone announces their goal in the game is to grief as many people as possible, how would you respond?
• 2010-03-20 03:31:32 Izzy: good question, I would first take the time to chat with the person, explain the type of game that this is, generally new players come in unaware that this is a community game and as soon as they realize it they either join the community, cause a bit of trouble and leave, or just leave period. my personal experience with griefers has been if you don't feed the trolls they tend to get bored and go away quickly
• 2010-03-20 03:32:42 Izzy: however if they act on those impulses and it becomes a major issue i would not hesitate to stop them by any means necessary
• 2010-03-20 03:33:04 Amethyst: I'd investigate further. Sometimes a private chat can turn up things that a public one doesn't.
• 2010-03-20 03:33:38 Orishas: As a player I can't really relate. I've never understood that mindset, but I know these people exist. This game is different than most MMOs I've played and it seems built from the start to promote conflict. With that said, it is inevitable to attract those "griefers". The best thing to do is to look at what they're doing and seek ways to stop it. Would banning stop them? In some cases, but often not.
• 2010-03-20 03:34:44 Orishas: Two recent examples of "griefing" have been addressed with proposed laws (amethyst's and mine) and I think that is a good approach if it is one of Egypt's bigger problems.
• 2010-03-20 03:36:05 Amethyst: But really, Mercille - the question you're asking is will we ban? And probably, will we ban Geodude. My answer to that is that I would not rule out a ban in all circumstances. I would consider it as a last resort - not a blur.
• 2010-03-20 03:36:19 Amethyst: I hope the debate doesn't end up getting bogged down with the question of banning Geodude, because I think all the candidates have already said we wouldn't ban. It's not a thing which distinguishes any of us.
• 2010-03-20 03:36:52 Draim: our next question comes from Geodude:
• 2010-03-20 03:36:58 Geodude: For all: What do you feel is the purpose of the Demi-Pharoah?
• 2010-03-20 03:39:43 Amethyst: Well, Teppy invented the positon, so the pat answer is that the purpose to DP is to create conflict. A better question might be is how is it possible to use the position of DP? A DP gains the mandate of the people of Egypt to be a judge and executioner. Rules mean nothing if there is no way whatsoever of enforcing them. The DP is like a cop with a gun - they hope never to use it, but it may occasionally be necessary.
• 2010-03-20 03:41:09 Amethyst: The DP, having been given this mandate can become a mediator of disputes, so conflict resolution and problem solving are sure to be incredibly important qualities.
• 2010-03-20 03:41:38 Orishas: The simplest answer is to figure out who passes the Kingmaker test, and who gets to ban people; Obviously the community has made the role into something more. A demi-pharoah is chosen as a community leader. The 7 bans are the only power given, but as a community leader it is important the demi-pharoah is more than the keeper of the bans. They need to be there to lead and to resolve.
• 2010-03-20 03:42:44 Izzy: I think the role of the Demi-Pharaoh is that of a leader, to lead by example of how to live in peace, cooperation, mediating when necessary when troubles arise as they always will in any community and bringing back the peace whenever possible
• 2010-03-20 03:43:35 Draim: our next question will be from ilika:
• 2010-03-20 03:43:36 ilika: To All: How do you plan on using your ban powers?
• 2010-03-20 03:46:25 Orishas: As a tool; A measure I can use to help mediate. A measure I can use to protect Egypt. Something I can go to when it is the best choice. As, I've said I felt that the DP is a community leader and having that bans assists in taking that leadership role.
• 2010-03-20 03:47:18 Draim: ****Mod note, who ever JUST submitted a question please resubmit we had an unexpecte bug rearding saved messages that made your message get lost
• 2010-03-20 03:47:37 Izzy: I don't *PLAN* to use it at all
• 2010-03-20 03:47:55 Izzy: i hope to avoid having to use it at all
• 2010-03-20 03:48:37 Amethyst: Thanks for your question Ilika. This came up so much in the DP rounds. In order for me to use a ban to get rid of a griefer, I'd have to tick 2 boxes... 1) would the ban do any good? It'd be pointless if the exile just made another account and came back doing the same things time after time. 2) I'd want to be sure that it wasn't creating any precedents that might come back to bite us.
• 2010-03-20 03:50:01 Kubilai: To all: How much of your play time here would you dedicate to being a DP. Do you think your time as a DP would be well spent running in the desert looking for cicadas or rats for example? What are you prepared to sacrifice for your community?
• 2010-03-20 03:50:18 Draim: wrong order :) but yes our next question is from Kubilai :)
• 2010-03-20 03:52:52 Izzy: as of right now i play an average of 12-16 hrs a day during which time i spend most of that time puttering around camp or fishing or growing papy all things that can be set to the side in the event my services are needed. I don't see the need to sacrifice anything but time to be a DP since all i do is process i can do that anytime :)
• 2010-03-20 03:54:14 Amethyst: Using something as powerful as a ban requires time, thought and the ability to listen to all sides of an argument.
• 2010-03-20 03:54:30 Amethyst: Kubilai, I think that being a DP might end up a bit like being a GM - you end up being a DP all the time. You fit in what game-playing you can around that.
• 2010-03-20 03:54:58 Amethyst: As it is now, I like to spend a day doing something for myself - ading to my camp or whatever, then a day doing something for the public - research, building public things, etc. I think there's a few of you out there who can confirm this :)
• 2010-03-20 03:55:26 Amethyst: Being DP isn't just a power, it's a responsibility.
• 2010-03-20 03:56:24 Orishas: I am a rather active player and I think that is to my advantage to being a good DP. Do I think I would spent time running for Cicadas or looking for rats? Maybe (although Im more like to be building ovens, etc.. same diff) - but if I needed to step away from that to help in my DP role, I would have no qualms stepping away to do that. I want to entrench myself in that role and I can sacrafice personal goals to do that.
• 2010-03-20 03:57:50 Draim: Thank you, Our next question comes from Dria: What exactly (in detail) has geodude done to deserve a ban?
• 2010-03-20 03:57:58 Dria: (real sorry that you don't want to chat about geodude, but it's really important)
• 2010-03-20 03:58:50 Amethyst: Dria - it's already been said that none of us would ban him. Why are you asking what he's done to deserve a ban?
• 2010-03-20 04:01:04 Amethyst: If you asked the reasons why we WOULDN'T ban - I'd understand. I'm happy to go into that if people think it's necessary, but as I said earlier, it's not a topic that distinguishes any of the candidates from one another.
• 2010-03-20 04:02:54 Dria: ok, i misunderstood. I thought you were saying you would ban him, which, to me, is entirely unacceptable.
• 2010-03-20 04:03:43 Orishas: Thats a trick question, as I don't think any of the candidates have said he should get a ban. He has done some antisocial things, we can agree with, but I for one, do not plan on banning him for what he's done so far.
• 2010-03-20 04:04:40 Izzy: at this stage he's not doing anything to deserve it however his past actions of griefing digs would be taken heavily into consideration in future investigations
• 2010-03-20 04:05:27 Draim: thank you, our next question comes from Knightmare:
• 2010-03-20 04:05:31 Knightmare: If you have all stated that you are all but unwilling to use your bans, why do you feel the need to become DP? Is it not an empty title at that point? Why not just continue to help out and leave the job of DP to someone who will use the bans?
• 2010-03-20 04:06:52 Orishas: I am not unwilling to use a ban;
• 2010-03-20 04:07:20 Izzy: i have never said i'm unwillign to use the ban, quite the opposite in fact, i distinctly recall saying i'd do my best to handle griefers and terrible situations "by any means necessary"
• 2010-03-20 04:08:29 Amethyst: Knightmare, none of us said that we would not use bans. We have all said that we would , indeed, consider using them as a last resort, after much deliberation.
• 2010-03-20 04:09:01 Draim: thank you knightmare and candidates, our next question is from Humbuk:
• 2010-03-20 04:09:06 Humbuk: Do you feel that DPs are adequately equipped for their role?
• 2010-03-20 04:10:16 Orishas: sorry follow up
• 2010-03-20 04:10:17 Orishas: There are certainly more preferable solutions (laws for prevalent problems, mediation when possible) but if the ban is the best course, then that is what I use.
• 2010-03-20 04:12:21 Izzy: I think it really depends on the DP individually, we each have the same path options but DP's have an extra step only they can take when all other routes have failed, so it depends on if the dp in question has what it takes to use what tools are given them
• 2010-03-20 04:13:17 Amethyst: Humbuk, I'd surely like some less drastic powers in my tool-box. The ability to squelch, the ability to freeze, the ability to stop bullets with my teeth and leap tall buildings... ah ok well... there would be other powers itd be nice to have.
• 2010-03-20 04:13:24 Humbuk: to clarify: all you currently have is the biggest gun in town. Do you feel that this sole power is sufficient for you to be effective in your role as DP?
• 2010-03-20 04:13:43 Draim: (if based on the claifircation someone wants to add something feel free)
• 2010-03-20 04:13:46 Amethyst: But, we have to work with what we're given. So the trick is to look at the tools we have, not those we'd like to have, and see how best to use those.
• 2010-03-20 04:15:28 Draim: (addition from izzy after clarification)
• 2010-03-20 04:15:31 Izzy: oh sure it would be nice to have some less drastic tools than just the ban, but since that isn't an option outside the legal system and our own brain to come up with solutions of our own we work with what we have
• 2010-03-20 04:16:00 Amethyst: Humbuk - I don't think that's accurate. The biggest gun in town is the people working together. At most, a DP can give the flick to a troublemaker who has probably decided to stop playing anyway, considering the importance of good relations with others in this game.
• 2010-03-20 04:17:51 Dria: you have the power of life and death in this game -- it is not a "flick"
• 2010-03-20 04:17:51 Dria: i don't think you're taking this seriously enough
• 2010-03-20 04:17:55 Orishas: I feel the role of DP is defined by the community and therefore it is the community that empowers them for that role. The ban is one tool for that, community support is another; One of my earlier rounds suggested a law to give additional DP powers such as a temporary ban to give people time to cool off. This is an additional tool I could suport if there weren't more pressing laws to be passed.
• 2010-03-20 04:18:41 Orishas: To follow with the clarification I would be glad to have additional tools, but I think the DP can and should work with what is already there.
• 2010-03-20 04:21:06 tehm: Isn't it a contradiction to say that it is up to the players to punish another for social blasphemy, yet decline to use powers because what was done was "legal" as evidenced by it being possible to do at all?
• 2010-03-20 04:21:25 Draim: as a followup:
• 2010-03-20 04:21:42 Draim: (what I just posted :) )
• 2010-03-20 04:22:23 Draim: ******** GAME BREAK********
• 2010-03-20 04:22:24 Ari: I hate to interrupt the process, but Ibis were spotted in Falcon Bay at 3645, -320
• 2010-03-20 04:22:54 Draim: ****** Back to our DP debate (feel free to start running to FB as you watch :) *******
• 2010-03-20 04:22:56 Knightmare: omw
• 2010-03-20 04:22:56 Shaduf: omw
• 2010-03-20 04:24:39 Babalu: omw
• 2010-03-20 04:24:40 Finola: omw
• 2010-03-20 04:24:57 Pameow: on the way
• 2010-03-20 04:25:02 Momra: me too
• 2010-03-20 04:25:06 Orishas: Short answer: Yes
• 2010-03-20 04:25:10 Amethyst: tehm, are you talking about the Geodude situation? Because it would help greatly if people want to discuss a specific situation, they come out and say it. That said, I will now go into my reasons for not banning Geodude, because my reasons are far more than just 'what he did was legal'.
• 2010-03-20 04:26:28 tehm: not Geodude in particular, no. It just seems like if no one is going to ever punish anyone, what's the point to having a DP at all? why not just have friendly neighbors?
• 2010-03-20 04:26:49 tehm: ok you didn't say never use ban... but still...
• 2010-03-20 04:26:53 Amethyst: Geodude, so far as I can tell has broken two very specific social codes. He picked up rocks at 3 digs and he used one set of obelisk materials to set a huge obelisk goal in four separate regions.
• 2010-03-20 04:28:19 Amethyst: well, tehm - no one has said that we'll never use a ban. it's hard to debate a position if people keep trying to polarise our positions.
• 2010-03-20 04:29:01 Amethyst: Both of Geodudes actions, I feel, were aimed at highlighting parts of the game that are ripe for griefing. Yes, it would have been possible to bring it up in a debate, or pass a law - but things talked about often don't get done untill a need is demonstrated. Sometimes the demonstration can be painful.
• 2010-03-20 04:29:34 Amethyst: He has not been a serial pest, as such. He has done a specific action and then stopped.
• 2010-03-20 04:29:57 tehm: Amethyst - note I am not talking about Geodude, and I also rephrased to say that I am aware you never said you won't ever ban.
• 2010-03-20 04:30:43 Amethyst: He makes his point, then leaves it at that.
• 2010-03-20 04:33:30 Amethyst: Ok, so the question is... I know you said you'd consider a ban, but why wont you ever punish anyone? I'm not sure I get your point at all.
• 2010-03-20 04:34:15 Izzy: i don't see anyone declining to use the pwer in fact i've said numerous times i'll use it if and when necessary
• 2010-03-20 04:37:09 Orishas: If legal is defined by the ability to do it, then ALL actions are "legal". This can't stand as the only reason NOT ban somebody.
• 2010-03-20 04:38:42 Draim: thank you :) Are next (unrelated) question comes from tehm:
• 2010-03-20 04:38:46 tehm: How would your role in ATITD be different if you became a DP?
• 2010-03-20 04:41:57 Izzy: my role would not change that much i don't think as i would continue to work on research, continue to help new players, and mediate when needed the only difference i can really see is i'd be getting called on to help from more than just local neighbors and have an extra option in dealing with true trouble makers
• 2010-03-20 04:43:02 Amethyst: I've so far considered Nomad's Paradise as the region that concerns me most. As I said earlier, I've tried to fit public duties in around my private goals. These public duties have, at times, already included mediating - especially in regard to our French players who were glad to have a native English speaker who they trusted to represent them in some situations.
• 2010-03-20 04:44:20 Amethyst: By becoming DP, I realise that role would become Egypt-wide. There were a few issues earlier in the game where I felt it was none of my business to butt in, the residents of the region shouldn't have their neighbours telling them how to run things.
• 2010-03-20 04:44:26 Amethyst: But a DP has a mandate, and the responsibility, to step in where asked and try to find fair solutions (whether or not everybody likes them)
• 2010-03-20 04:45:02 Orishas: My primary focus now is on developing my 'small' guild - and help myself and others in it to pass the tests we're interested in; If I were elected DP, I'd still work on that while I can but my main responsbility would be as DP. I think that my "role" would in the game would be as demipharoah, and that may change my gametime significantly.
• 2010-03-20 04:46:05 Orishas: I would still help to mentor new players in the mentor guild we've setup, I would still help guildies to pass tests and build our compound, still work on group efforts, still have personal goals but my new priority would be the responsibilities of DP.
• 2010-03-20 04:48:50 Draim: thank you :) our next quesiton comes form neone
• 2010-03-20 04:48:55 Neone: There will come new players and they might not know where to place there first cp. They might place it in an area that will make it difficelt to expand for bigger players the way they planed. How will you help if they cant fix it among them self?
• 2010-03-20 04:50:57 Izzy: i would explaint to them how being so close will also hinder thier own expansion, then offer to assist them in the moving process including the finding of a new place that is more acceptable and the transport of any mats they have collected and if necessary the mats to help build an unexpanded cp in the new location
• 2010-03-20 04:52:20 Amethyst: Neone - Egypt is generally a friendly place to newbies. We need them so much. I would hope that the older player would explain the problem to the newbie and even offer to help move the comound! I think my fellow citizens are much more capable than to call a DP in to tell a newbie to move.
• 2010-03-20 04:53:42 Amethyst: If it were to escalate, it'd be important to hear both sides of the story and try to help them reach an agreement between them. But I don't feel that the DP's role is to settle real estate disputes.
• 2010-03-20 04:54:17 Orishas: I do try to let any new players coming into the game some of the advanteges of different places to live; I've recently learned to open the immigrant channel (like I said I'm still a bit rusty) and I keep an eye out for new players coming into the game. When they are looking to 'setup shop' so to say I point out some of there options. They can live in a very active community but they may feel 'crowded', they can live further away but they'll need to travel more for social things such as
• 2010-03-20 04:54:38 Orishas: techs and acrobatics/worship. I try to explain to advantages of working in a guild or out of a public compound. I think they're are a lot of good mentors out there wanting to give this kind of help too, so we really just need to make sure those new players get to them.
• 2010-03-20 04:55:07 Orishas: So I think with the proper explanations most players will realize the situation
• 2010-03-20 04:55:56 Orishas: I guess I misunderstood the question; I think talking would solve this situation in most cases and assisting them in moving in definetly something I think most neighbors would do
• 2010-03-20 04:56:40 Draim: *******Mod note, This is coming up to 2 hours and multiple people from the candidates and those watching are getting tired. That said we are going to close this out soon with 2 more questions (I will be picking). I will be writing down all the unasked qustions for another session (hopefully Sunday or Monday, US time) I will let us all know soon.
• 2010-03-20 04:57:16 Draim: from Geodude:
• 2010-03-20 04:57:19 Geodude: For all: If you could add one more power to the DP, what would it be if any?
• 2010-03-20 04:59:25 Amethyst: The power to freeze someone temporarily. If someone is causing major trouble in an immediate sense, it would give some breathing space while we worked things out.
• 2010-03-20 05:00:50 Orishas: I think the ability to send somebody to jail would be an interesting addition; (Im actually not sure what jail is so Im assuming its a place where the character can't do anyhing) it would serve a similar purpose to a temporary ban, but would allow the player a chance to cool and perhaps even interact (with chat) with the DP and/or community to discuss what led them there.
• 2010-03-20 05:01:36 Izzy: I would have to say possibly an inventory lockout making it so the player couldn't hold anything at all for a certain period of time, it would effectively prevent them from building anything or doing anything other than chatting
• 2010-03-20 05:02:05 Draim: thank you all!, our last question for today will be from tehm:
• 2010-03-20 05:02:08 tehm: All: what TV character will you be like as a DP and why?
• 2010-03-20 05:04:13 Amethyst: Captain Janeway!
• 2010-03-20 05:04:38 Amethyst: There will be hard decisions to make, the situation will never be ideal, but I'll aim for brilliance with the tools I'm given.
• 2010-03-20 05:05:33 Orishas: Deputy Miley - from the Academy - A reality series about a police academy. I recently started watching this show and I think its a good analogy to DP. The Deputy sees problems and tries to resolve them; If after his efforts the issue is not resolved he 'seperates' them from the academy (BAN)
• 2010-03-20 05:06:05 Amethyst: And I'll do it all with a corny line or two XD
• 2010-03-20 05:06:13 Izzy: tehm: Bart Simpson - Nobody better lay a finger on my butter finger.....why because it's a bannable offense
• 2010-03-20 05:07:24 Izzy: forgive my silly response to taht last one but i really dont' see what tv characters have to do with DP
• 2010-03-20 05:07:42 Draim: I think it was meant to be a silly question :) hence why I picked it last
• 2010-03-20 05:07:48 Draim: thank you everyone for coming
• 2010-03-20 05:07:55 Draim: that will be our last question for today
• 2010-03-20 05:08:22 Izzy: ty for hosting Draim it was very gracious of you and i enjoyed it immensely :)
• 2010-03-20 05:08:35 Amethyst: Thanks to our moderator. You did a great job! *applauds*
• 2010-03-20 05:08:35 InLight: ty draim for all the work u did to host it :)
• 2010-03-20 05:09:14 Draim: I am planning on running another debate at a good time for our european friends in the next couple days and will let everyone know when that comes
• 2010-03-20 05:09:48 Draim: everyone who had a quesiton pending that didn't get answered (without me talking to you first) I am writing down everything now to save for later
• 2010-03-20 05:10:03 Neone: great job moderators and good debate posible DP's :) now off to bed for the european. sun is starting to rise