http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=MidnightBlueA Tale in the Desert - User contributions [en]2026-04-04T11:24:21ZUser contributionsMediaWiki 1.35.2http://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Guilds/Paradise_Public_Works&diff=171447Guilds/Paradise Public Works2010-01-09T03:31:40Z<p>MidnightBlue: /* North Facility */</p>
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<div>= Paradise Public Works (PPW) =<br />
<br />
== About Us ==<br />
We are a public works guild based in Nomads' Paradise. As a group, we have three major goals:<br />
* Construction of Public Facilities<br />
* Regional Research<br />
* Public Resources<br />
'''Public Access.''' Guild resources will be allocated to projects based on the priorities above. As such, valuable resources such as mines will not initially be public, but as construction and research needs diminish, they will be transitioned into public use. <br />
<br />
'''Donations. ''' We will soon have a 'donation warehouse.' If you wish to contribute to the guild in general, simply stash materials there. If you are donating it for a specific purpose, /chat [[User:Quin|Quin]] the details. If we receive donations for a specific project (i.e. a mine for public use), they will be used solely for that purpose.<br />
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'''Membership.''' We welcome everyone, though will give priority to those living in the region. Sadly, because of their transient nature, and the long-term focus of our guild, we will not accept applications from trial accounts. I hope to set up a mentoring guild for new and learning players in the near future.<br />
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'''Rank.''' Promotions are based on very nonnumerical factors such as community, leadership, and generosity. It our belief that such factors are worth trust and respect.<br />
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'''Trust.''' By default, we try to trust everyone. If you need something for a test, principle, or personal use and you see it in a guild chest, please ask! As long as we know where it is going, there should be no problem. However, if items of value are removed from guild chests without asking and are not returned, you are not just stealing from the guild, but from the community.<br />
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== Elders ==<br />
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* ''' Quin ''' - Construction Coordinator<br />
* ''' akc2 ''' - French Liaison<br />
* ''' Bogas'''<br />
* ''' Gens & Reih '''<br />
* ''' Krakos '''<br />
* ''' PetruxII '''<br />
* ''' Suleman '''<br />
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= Map of Facilities =<br />
== [[Guilds/Paradise_Public_Works/Mines|.-=Mine Map=-.]] <br> [[Guilds/Paradise_Public_Works/Marble|.-=Marble Map=-.]] ==<br />
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<googlemap lat=-1400 lon=2850 zoom=4 width=512 height=512><br />
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(N) -1145, 3485<br />
NP -1145, 3485<br />
''' Northern Facilities '''<br />
(Forges, casting boxes, glazer's<br />
benches & other polluting buildings)<br />
<br />
(E) -1175, 3395<br />
NP -1175, 3395<br />
''' Nearby Expedition Site '''<br />
<br />
(T) -1900, 1850<br />
NP -1900, 1850<br />
'''Tar'''<br />
<br />
(M) -1000, 3500<br />
NP -1000, 3500<br />
''' Smelting Facilities '''<br />
(mines nearby, see mine map)<br />
<br />
(C) -1395, 2790<br />
NP -1395, 2790<br />
''' Central Facility '''<br />
(Pottery wheels, brickracks, rocksaws,<br />
carpentry shops, kitchens, etc.)<br />
<br />
(G) -1393, 2665<br />
NP -1393, 2665<br />
''' Guild Hall '''<br />
Capacity: 64/65<br />
Accepting Applications only :(<br />
<br />
(W) -1461, 3713 <br />
NP -1461, 3713<br />
'''White Sand'''<br />
<br />
(W) -1170, 1949<br />
NP -1170, 1949<br />
'''White Sand'''<br />
<br />
(S) -1524, 2230 <br />
NP -1524, 2230 <br />
'''Sulphurous Water'''<br />
<br />
(V) -1380, 2010<br />
NP -1380, 2010<br />
'''Veggies''' - Leeks & Cabbage (19) <br />
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</googlemap><br />
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<br />
= Current Facilities & Construction Plans =<br />
<br />
== Current projects ==<br />
<br />
Help is always welcome, but please /chat zaarain before starting to gather/make mats so there's no duplication of effort.<br />
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[[Acoustics Laboratory]]<br />
* 50 [[Steel Sheeting]] (Fireproof Surface)<br />
* 25 [[Steel Wire]] to hang the curing chimes<br />
* 25 [[Cut Stone]] (Foundation Base)<br />
* 700 [[Treated Boards|Rigid Fireproof boards]] for Brazier Support (Bottom)<br />
* 400 [[Treated Boards|Hard Fireproof boards]] for Brazier Support (Top)<br />
* 600 [[Treated Boards|Soft, pliable boards]] for Finishing Area<br />
* 550 [[Treated Boards|Hard but pliable boards]] for Finishing Area supports<br />
* 500 Black [[Raeli Tiles]] (Bench Surface)<br />
* 500 White [[Raeli Tiles]] (Bench Surface)<br />
* 250 [[Concrete]] (Base)<br />
<br />
== Main Facility ==<br />
[[Image:PPWComposite.jpg|545px|thumb|left|PPW Centeral Facility at -1390, 2790 (East of the Chariot). Because of pollution concerns, most of the buildings here will be non-polluting.]]<br />
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'''Current Equipment''' <br><br />
''' North''' <br><br />
1 [[Ceremonial Tasting Table]] <br><br />
15 [[Carpentry Shop|Carpentry Shops]]<br><br />
2 [[Mason's Bench|Mason's Benches]]<br><br />
2 [[Charcoal Hearth|Charcoal Hearths]]<br><br />
2 [[Charcoal Oven|Charcoal Ovens]]<br><br />
10 [[Rock Saw|Rock Saws]]<br><br />
2 [[Rabbit Hutch|Rabbit Hutches]]<br><br />
1 [[Barrel Vise]]<br><br />
1 [[Scent Lab]]<br><br />
4 [[Malting Tray|Malting Trays]]<br><br />
1 [[Grain Oven]]<br><br />
6 [[Kitchen|Kitchens]]<br><br />
6 [[Kettle|Kettles]]<br><br />
1 [[Pigment Laboratory]]<br><br />
<br><br />
'''South''' <br><br />
30 [[Improved Brick Rack|Improved Brick Racks]]<br><br />
48 [[Pottery Wheel|Pottery Wheels]]<br><br />
6 [[Hackling Rake|Hackling Rakes]]<br><br />
24 [[Small Distaff|Small Distaffs]]<br><br />
10 [[Sturdy Tub|Sturdy Tubs]]<br><br />
40 [[True Kiln|True Kilns]]<br><br />
1 [[Hand Loom]]<br><br />
2 [[Anvil|Anvils]]<br><br />
<br><br><br><br />
'''Outside'''<br><br />
3 [[Dromedary Pen|Dromedary Pens]]<br><br />
2 [[Greenhouse|Greenhouses]]<br><br />
1 [[Chicken Coop]]<br><br />
7 [[Vineyard|Vineyards]]<br><br />
<br><br><br />
<br />
== North Facility ==<br />
[[Image:PPWNorth.jpg|385px|thumb|left|PPW North Facility at -1140, 3480 (NE of the Chariot). Ideally located near our mines, limestone, white sand and an expedition site this facility will try to consolidate most of the metalworking, glass and other polluting buildings.]]<br />
<br />
''' Main Compound '''<br><br />
[[Student's Forge]] x10<br><br />
[[Master's Forge]] x2<br><br />
[[Student's Casting Box]] x3<br><br />
[[Master's Casting Box]] x2<br><br />
[[Reactory]] x2 (upgraded to 2x batches)<br><br />
<s>[[Fleet Furnace]] x2</s> '''Not public usable'''<br><br />
[[Glazier's Bench]] x7 (3x Soda, 3x Normal, 1x Jewel)<br><br />
[[Glory Hole]]<br><br />
[[Charcoal Oven]] x2<br><br />
[[Gyration Cell]]<br><br />
<s>[[Clinker Vat]]</s> '''Not public usable'''<br><br />
[[Kettle]] x10<br><br />
[[Wood Treatment Tank]] ([[Guilds/Paradise_Public_Works/Building details#Wood Treatment Tank|K-values and recipes]])<br><br />
<s>[[Crematory]] ([[Guilds/Paradise_Public_Works/Building details#Crematory|button mappings]])</s> '''Not public usable'''<br><br />
[[Chemical Bath]] ([[Guilds/Paradise_Public_Works/Building details#Chemical Bath|K-values and recipes]])<br><br />
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[[Category:Guilds]] {{DEFAULTSORT:Paradise Public Works}}</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Christmas_Presents_2009&diff=167650Christmas Presents 20092009-12-26T23:12:17Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
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<div>{{Template:ItemInfo|weight=1|bulk=1|image=ChristmasPresent.png|description=Merry Christmas}} <br />
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__TOC__<br />
==Please...==<br />
*Remove yourself from the list when you pick up your present.<br />
*If, when claiming your present, another person's gift is revealed underneath, please add it to the list so they will know they have one there.<br />
<br />
==Present Contents==<br />
You will get different items in your presents depending on how many you have opened.<br />
First present:<br />
*Box of [[Chocolate]]<br />
Second present:<br />
*Three bundles of random fireworks, total of 7 fireworks of the following types:<br />
**Bellydance<br />
**Christmas TreeP<br />
**I Love You<br />
**Strange Flower<br />
**The Three Kings<br />
**Petal power<br />
**Pop the bubbly people<br />
Third present:<br />
*2 [[Watermelons|Watermelon]] seeds<br />
<br />
==Atlas of pressies/snow storms==<br />
<br />
===All of Egypt, No Borders===<br />
<googlemap lat=1010 lon=0 zoom=1 width=512 height=512><br />
<br />
(A) 937,6930<br />
/info\<br />
Adn<br />
cooords 967,6930<br />
<br />
(A) 963,6894 <br />
/info\<br />
Adn<br />
coords 964, 6894<br />
<br />
(N) -1268,2521<br />
/info\<br />
Nomads Paradise<br />
coords -1298,6894<br />
<br />
(N) -1430, 2672<br />
/info\<br />
Nomads Paradise<br />
coords -1430, 2672<br />
<br />
(N) -1446, 2802<br />
/info\<br />
Nomads Paradise<br />
coords -1446, 2802<br />
<br />
(M) 707, -3620<br />
/info\<br />
Meroe<br />
coords 707, -3620<br />
<br />
(M) 815, -3660<br />
/info\<br />
Meroe<br />
coords 815, -3660<br />
<br />
(T) 1635, 3770<br />
/info\<br />
Stillwater<br />
coords 1635, 3770<br />
<br />
(T) 1670, 3740<br />
/info\<br />
Stillwater<br />
coords 1670, 3740<br />
<br />
(T) 1731, 3718<br />
/info\<br />
Stillwater<br />
coords 1731, 3718<br />
<br />
(T) 2002, 3672<br />
/info\<br />
Stillwater<br />
coords 2002, 3672<br />
<br />
(H) 1456, 1931<br />
/info\<br />
Shabbat Ab<br />
coords 1456, 1931<br />
<br />
(H) 1385, 1739<br />
/info\<br />
Shabbat Ab<br />
coords 1385, 1739<br />
<br />
(H) 1421, 1725<br />
/info\<br />
Shabbat Ab<br />
coords 1421, 1725<br />
<br />
(S) 3126, 4424<br />
/info\<br />
Sinai<br />
coords 3126, 4424<br />
<br />
(S) 3193, 4410<br />
/info\<br />
Sinai<br />
coords 3193, 4410<br />
<br />
(S) 3335, 4292<br />
/info\<br />
Sinai<br />
coords 3335, 4292<br />
<br />
(Q) 807,-866<br />
/info\ <br />
Saqqarah<br />
coords 807,-866<br />
<br />
(Q) 754,-757<br />
/info\ <br />
Saqqarah<br />
coords 754,-757<br />
<br />
(Q) 686,-753<br />
/info\ <br />
Saqqarah<br />
coords 686,-753<br />
<br />
(R) 404,-6169<br />
/info\<br />
Queens Retreat<br />
coords 404,-6169<br />
<br />
(R) 732,-7861<br />
/info\<br />
Queens Retreat<br />
coords 732,-7861<br />
<br />
(R) 711,-7839<br />
/info\<br />
Queens Retreat<br />
coords 711,-7839<br />
<br />
(F) 4297, -791<br />
/info\<br />
Falcon Bay<br />
coords 4297, -791<br />
<br />
(F) 4344 , -600<br />
/info\<br />
Falcon Bay<br />
coords 4344 , -600<br />
<br />
(F) 4237, -700<br />
/info\<br />
Falcon Bay<br />
coords 4237, -700<br />
<br />
(C) -481, 6697<br />
/info\<br />
Cat's Claw Ridge<br />
coords -481, 6697<br />
<br />
(C) -386, 6584<br />
/info\<br />
Cat's Claw Ridge<br />
coords -386, 6584<br />
<br />
(C) -488, 6541<br />
/info\<br />
Cat's Claw Ridge<br />
coords -488, 6541<br />
<br />
(P) 4255, 7455<br />
/info\<br />
Pyramid Lake<br />
coords 4255, 7455<br />
<br />
(P) 4279, 7614<br />
/info\<br />
Pyramid Lake<br />
coords 4279, 7614<br />
<br />
(P) 4361, 7691<br />
/info\<br />
Pyramid Lake<br />
coords 4361, 7691<br />
<br />
(K) -2007, -414<br />
/info\<br />
Khmun<br />
coords -2007, -414<br />
<br />
(K) -2087, -481<br />
/info\<br />
Khmun<br />
coords -2087, -481<br />
<br />
(H) -1800,6450<br />
/info\<br />
Heaven's Gate<br />
coords -1800,6450<br />
<br />
(H) -1691, 6305<br />
/info\<br />
Heaven's Gate<br />
coords -1691, 6305<br />
<br />
(H) -1591, 6311<br />
/info\<br />
Heaven's Gate<br />
coords -1591, 6311<br />
<br />
</googlemap><br />
<br />
== Adn (937, 6930) Near SArt ==<br />
* Hathor<br />
* Fergie<br />
* Aleena<br />
* Nebamon<br />
<br />
== Adn (962, 6895) ==<br />
* Khaemwaset<br />
* Elroth<br />
* Katarina<br />
* Siffy<br />
* Taffer<br />
* mikis2ndchance<br />
* Hathor<br />
* Choltai<br />
* lulubelle<br />
* Phoenixwcu<br />
* Alu<br />
* Tunnen<br />
* Anukhu<br />
* sparkle<br />
* FlyingHigh<br />
* BL<br />
<br />
== Adn (1053, 6958) ==<br />
* Telanoc<br />
* ZiamorKyo<br />
* terrin<br />
* Fergie<br />
* CamelJocky<br />
* benzrf<br />
* HULK<br />
* SaiCoSis<br />
* Rania<br />
* Cegaiel<br />
* Hathor<br />
* Martouf<br />
* Strobofant<br />
* Savarin<br />
<br />
== Adn (1062, 6873) ==<br />
<br />
* Athena<br />
* drking420<br />
* elouamn<br />
* ankhotep<br />
* renco<br />
* nebkhepure<br />
* enlightenment<br />
* mayanah<br />
* rerrik<br />
<br />
== Meroe (707, -3620) West of the Chariot == <br />
<br />
''Updated 05:44GMT Dec 25 to reflect what is still at this location''<br />
<br />
* Darwishi<br />
* yvonne340<br />
* Tyco<br />
* Lill<br />
* Avyer<br />
* Choukam<br />
<br />
== Meroe (815, -3660) at CS ==<br />
<br />
* Lightbeing<br />
* Nefer-titi<br />
* amun<br />
* Celdyrian<br />
* AmisiBastet<br />
* Sayana<br />
* Khaemwaset<br />
* mac<br />
* zowee<br />
* nourbese<br />
* zog<br />
* lulubelle<br />
<br />
== Meroe (984, -3600) ==<br />
<br />
* RaRa<br />
* Kuviena<br />
* Alexa<br />
* nilelady<br />
* Serefina<br />
* Heterika<br />
* MissVera<br />
* Daniels<br />
* OZtwo<br />
* Cegaiel<br />
* Priapos<br />
* wiked<br />
* Celdyrian<br />
* Strobofant<br />
* TonyG<br />
* ixel<br />
* Nebamon<br />
* Haunting<br />
<br />
== Stillwater (1635, 3770) Near SHarmony ==<br />
<br />
* MissVera<br />
* Amon-ra<br />
* ZiamorKyo<br />
* Zotep<br />
* Zomboe<br />
* Phelaen<br />
<br />
== Stillwater (1670, 3740) Near CS ==<br />
<br />
* Khaemwaset<br />
* Strobofant<br />
* Selima<br />
* Duncan<br />
* Seeker<br />
* darkfyre<br />
* Peace<br />
<br />
* bcostaldawn<br />
* Anthotep<br />
* SaiCoSis<br />
<br />
== Stillwater (1731, 3718) Near CS ==<br />
<br />
* Ziky<br />
* Garai<br />
* RoyCallahan<br />
* Babba69<br />
* Crashley<br />
* Philadelphia<br />
* Salrilk<br />
* Atheus<br />
* Silverglass<br />
* McArinesSlave<br />
* taylor<br />
<br />
== Stillwater (2001, 3672) ==<br />
<br />
* Mosi<br />
* Maxmansung<br />
* Neema<br />
* murtha<br />
* windingo<br />
* Halana<br />
* Fairy<br />
* Rhys<br />
* Ishtala<br />
* Mery-Sit<br />
* LaCidra<br />
* TIYE<br />
* Desertflower<br />
* Aleena<br />
* Tanafri<br />
* truanna<br />
* Mordechai<br />
* Dagny<br />
* Razrdi<br />
* Hekatef<br />
* ellorin<br />
<br />
== Shabbat Ab (1456, 1931) Near the Goods ==<br />
<br />
* Isaday<br />
* Volksen<br />
* Lightbeing<br />
* Panyea<br />
* sparkle<br />
<br />
== Shabbat Ab 1385, 1739 (South of Chariot) ==<br />
<br />
* Quasnia<br />
* lulubelle<br />
* Chelle<br />
* Haydee<br />
* Jeni <br />
* Celdyrian<br />
* nourbese<br />
* Gronk<br />
* Anukhu<br />
* Lynx-DLK<br />
* Garai<br />
* saladine<br />
* Alu<br />
<br />
== Shabbat Ab (1421, 1725) - further South of Chariot ==<br />
<br />
* Salrilk<br />
* taylor<br />
* Thaine<br />
* zing<br />
* Lightbeing<br />
* Tedra<br />
* McArinesSlave<br />
* Philadelphia<br />
* wiked<br />
* Mordechai<br />
* Babba69<br />
* Silverglass<br />
* lilinou<br />
* RoyCallahan<br />
* Tyco<br />
* Detour<br />
<br />
== Shabbat Ab (1362, 1678) ==<br />
<br />
* Sandrat<br />
* Hisham<br />
* Amon_Ra<br />
* pinger<br />
* BillyTesch<br />
* Anya<br />
* Borian<br />
* BRANDI<br />
* Tammy<br />
* Augusta<br />
* Clay<br />
* InambaGuum<br />
* sana<br />
* Daxier<br />
* bambi<br />
* Abel<br />
* VicVic<br />
* darkfyre<br />
* Tulyen<br />
* Alvik<br />
* Seiun<br />
* shawn<br />
* Almelkehdes<br />
* Adrianna<br />
* Alvik<br />
* akc2<br />
* Brythorn<br />
* Sigtrygg<br />
* Nebuleuse<br />
* Zoltec<br />
* Tammie<br />
* Smare<br />
* seaaira<br />
* SharaeDarky<br />
* Katma<br />
* Kytten<br />
<br />
== Sinai (3126, 4424) near S Arch ==<br />
<br />
* Aku<br />
* benzrf<br />
* aoife<br />
* mikis2ndchance<br />
* falhi<br />
* Choltai<br />
* Khandras<br />
* iziz<br />
* trillian<br />
* Zog<br />
* Ziky<br />
* albertine<br />
* Skalops<br />
* Sonny<br />
* Rania<br />
* SpicyXX<br />
* Nefer-titi<br />
* AmisiBastet<br />
<br />
== Sinai (3193, 4410) N of CS ==<br />
<br />
* Renard<br />
* Quasnia<br />
* amun<br />
* Anish<br />
* benzrf<br />
<br />
== Sinai (3335, 4292) Near SArt ==<br />
<br />
* Rynthas<br />
* Phoenixwcu<br />
* ysabeau<br />
* Hemptwister<br />
* Dreasimy<br />
* Tulyen<br />
* Cain<br />
* Crashley<br />
* Somali<br />
<br />
== Saqqarah (807,-866) South of CS by road ==<br />
<br />
* Darky<br />
* firegolem<br />
* Akinater<br />
* Serefina<br />
* Priapos<br />
* Miw-Sher<br />
* Scorpion<br />
* AnieW<br />
* Shemei<br />
* Anish<br />
* Freyja<br />
* Bells (not there)<br />
* Zomboe<br />
* Renard<br />
* yvonne340<br />
* iziz<br />
* Shebi<br />
* albertine<br />
* emilyliz<br />
<br />
== Saqqarah (754,-757) At Cs==<br />
<br />
* Sparkle<br />
* Shawn<br />
* MadeinChina<br />
* Khadras<br />
* Oztwo<br />
* Anaksunamun<br />
* Paavo<br />
* Anukhu<br />
* Mala<br />
* Dphantom<br />
* Klax<br />
* Chelle<br />
* Stevehotep<br />
* Lorraine<br />
<br />
== Saqqarah (686,-753) Across river from CS ==<br />
<br />
* Tay-O-Nasty <br />
* Luckylisa <br />
<br />
* Endie <br />
* Anyolina <br />
* zing <br />
* Tedra <br />
* Zotep <br />
* ZiamorKyo <br />
* Rags<br />
* Numaris<br />
* hilly<br />
* Bastla<br />
* Isaday<br />
* aoife<br />
* Edeie<br />
* Choukam<br />
* Telanoc<br />
* Murat<br />
<br />
== Queen's Retreat (404,-6169) West of CS by road ==<br />
<br />
* Aleena<br />
* Reyzer<br />
* lilac<br />
* Phoenixwcu<br />
* Amenka<br />
* Trillian<br />
* mikis2ndchance<br />
* kuupid<br />
* Sonny<br />
* Ziky<br />
* fahli<br />
* zaxaz<br />
* ixel<br />
* Tunnen<br />
<br />
== Queen's Retreat (732,-7861) ==<br />
<br />
* Mayanah<br />
* Enlightment<br />
* Borian<br />
* Athena<br />
* Hisham<br />
* Elouamn<br />
* Seiun<br />
* Smare<br />
* Rhys<br />
* Squiranha<br />
* Brythorn<br />
* windingo<br />
* Adrianna<br />
* seaaira<br />
* ellorin<br />
* sana<br />
* Nebuleuse<br />
* Sharae<br />
* Sandrat<br />
<br />
== Queen's Retreat (711,-7839) - note: presents may be stuck in the blocks on site ==<br />
<br />
* Zomboe<br />
* Tor el Wati<br />
* Sterling<br />
* Pacer<br />
* taylor<br />
* Virror<br />
* Skalops<br />
* Matta<br />
* ParisLynn<br />
* Hathorum<br />
* Akanai<br />
* Akinater<br />
* McArine<br />
* Shemei<br />
* AmisiBastet<br />
* Darwishi<br />
* daninicholls (is sticking out of a pillar)<br />
<br />
== Queen's Retreat (697, -7856) ==<br />
<br />
* TIYE<br />
* Arthur<br />
* Pirrel<br />
* Ferrick<br />
* Razrdi<br />
* Abel<br />
* Mery-Sit<br />
<br />
== Falcon Bay (4297, -791) South of CS by the road ==<br />
<br />
* mork<br />
* Izuela<br />
* Siffy<br />
* UmLim<br />
* Detour<br />
* Raspberry<br />
* Priapos<br />
* Mariasha<br />
* Tammy<br />
* BRANDI<br />
* Tor-el-Wati<br />
* Paavo<br />
* Nemoder<br />
* Dphantom<br />
* Anaksunaun<br />
* Akanai<br />
* daninicholls<br />
* RoadApple<br />
* Telanoc<br />
<br />
== Falcon Bay (4344 , -600) ==<br />
<br />
* bcoastaldawn<br />
* RoadApple<br />
* nebkhepure<br />
* Alu<br />
* Dreasimy<br />
* pinger<br />
* RaTBoY<br />
<br />
== Falcon Bay (4237, -700) ==<br />
<br />
* Bells<br />
* SaiCoSis<br />
* Hemptwister<br />
* UmLim<br />
* Chelsis<br />
* Taemon<br />
* zowee<br />
* klax<br />
* Panyea<br />
* Nefer-titi<br />
* albertine<br />
* Fergie<br />
* AmenKa<br />
<br />
== Cat's Claw Ridge (-481, 6697) NW of CS ==<br />
<br />
* Anish<br />
* Ephemere<br />
* Akinater<br />
* Denalu<br />
* Tunnen<br />
* lorraine<br />
* Freyja<br />
* Shawn<br />
* neyoud<br />
* BL<br />
* Tay-o-Nasty<br />
* gambler<br />
* Mebala<br />
* Hagop<br />
* Kartal<br />
<br />
== Cat's Claw Ridge (-386, 6584) E of CS ==<br />
<br />
* SueV<br />
* darkfyre<br />
* Aku<br />
* Raspberry<br />
* haxxed<br />
* Lynx-DLK<br />
* Bastia<br />
* Siffy<br />
* Tao<br />
* Tyco<br />
<br />
== Cat's Claw Ridge (-488, 6541) SW of CS ==<br />
<br />
* dedenav<br />
* Mariasha<br />
* Miw-Sher<br />
* Nobody<br />
* iziz<br />
* terrin<br />
* Dphantom<br />
* Khadras<br />
* Thaine<br />
* gambler<br />
* Frouvlox<br />
* Freyja<br />
* SueVN<br />
* Stevehotep<br />
* Lill<br />
<br />
== Pyramid Lake (4255, 7455) South of the Chariot, along the road ==<br />
<br />
* Robare<br />
* Heterika<br />
* WaggPhysh<br />
* Sagen<br />
* FlyingHigh<br />
* Tao<br />
* firegolem<br />
* SueVN<br />
* Klax<br />
* mala<br />
* haxxed<br />
* Nobody<br />
* Haunting<br />
* Sappy<br />
* Serefina<br />
* Mekei<br />
<br />
== Pyramid Lake (4279, 7614) at Chariot==<br />
<br />
* Tulyen<br />
* Ninfa<br />
* Hemptwister<br />
* Haunting<br />
* Garei<br />
* Aoife<br />
* Pacer<br />
* Robare<br />
* Atena<br />
* Kanrah<br />
* Gronk<br />
* Blondie<br />
* Neoder<br />
* Bl<br />
* Elroth<br />
* Selima<br />
* Daninicholls<br />
<br />
== Pyramid Lake (4279, 7614) at Chariot==<br />
<br />
* LaCidra<br />
* Athena<br />
* TIYE<br />
* Nebuleuse<br />
* Zoltec<br />
* Apollon<br />
* akc2<br />
* Ferrick<br />
* Hekatef<br />
* BillyTesch<br />
* Arthur<br />
* Tanafri<br />
* Tammie<br />
* Alvik<br />
* Borian<br />
* Renco<br />
* Clay<br />
* Sigtrygg<br />
* Adrianna<br />
* Rhys<br />
* Desertflower<br />
* seaaira<br />
* Sandrat<br />
* Anya<br />
* Sharae<br />
* Almelkehdes<br />
<br />
== Pyramid Lake (4361, 7691) NE from Chariot==<br />
*kuupid<br />
*HULK<br />
*Mebala<br />
*TeaAira<br />
*Nemoder<br />
*hitoriki<br />
*Babba69<br />
*mrkarl<br />
*Aubery<br />
*tsukasa<br />
*Gronk<br />
*Sayana<br />
*Somali<br />
*Scorpion<br />
*Neurfur<br />
*Duncan<br />
*Aku<br />
*Kahmal<br />
*MariahBoPeep<br />
*Martouf<br />
<br />
== Nomad's Paradise (-1268,2521) Southeast of the Chariot, by U Body ==<br />
<br />
* ParisLynn<br />
* Akanai<br />
* Isaday<br />
* Katarina<br />
* Ephemere<br />
* Sappy<br />
* Tammy<br />
* Skalops<br />
* Taffer<br />
* Detour<br />
* InambaGuum<br />
* ShuoftheFieryHeat<br />
* MissVera<br />
<br />
== Nomad's Paradise -1430, 2672 ==<br />
<br />
<br />
* Silverglass<br />
* erg<br />
* Chelle<br />
* Otter<br />
* Peace<br />
* atenakanrah<br />
* RoadApple<br />
* Anaksunamun<br />
* Tula<br />
* Kija<br />
* Quasnia<br />
* McArinesSlave<br />
* Mac<br />
<br />
== Nomad's Paradise -1446, 2802 ==<br />
<br />
* Kija<br />
* Mariasha<br />
* terrin<br />
* Aubery<br />
* Taemon<br />
* amun<br />
* Otter<br />
* Bastia<br />
* Mac<br />
* Kanara<br />
* Kalmkitty<br />
<br />
== Khmun (-2127, -480) ==<br />
<br />
* haxxed<br />
* nourbese<br />
* Ayver<br />
* Callawen<br />
* zaxaz<br />
* Cain<br />
* Zog<br />
* Lynx-DLK<br />
* Salrilk<br />
* Philadelphia<br />
* Phelaen<br />
* lorraine<br />
* JoeW<br />
* Jingle<br />
* Shebi<br />
<br />
== Khmun -2007, -414 (NorthEast of the Chariot) ==<br />
<br />
* gambler<br />
* BRANDI (-)<br />
* Ayver<br />
* Rags<br />
* Izuela<br />
* ysabeau<br />
* Kytten<br />
* Spooner<br />
* Chaul (-)<br />
* Rynthas<br />
* SpicyXX<br />
* Shai-Hulud<br />
* Volksen<br />
* Mekei<br />
<br />
==Khmun (-2087, -481) At the CS ==<br />
<br />
*Mebala<br />
*Aubery<br />
*Nebamon<br />
*Crashley<br />
*Haydee<br />
*Taemon<br />
<br />
== Heaven's Gate -1800,6450 (Northwest of the Chariot) ==<br />
<br />
* Amon-Ra<br />
* atenakanrah<br />
* Pacer<br />
* kuupid<br />
* Hagop<br />
* Alexa<br />
* Taffer<br />
* Tula<br />
* Choltai<br />
* Shai-Hulud<br />
* neyoud<br />
* CamelJocky<br />
<br />
== Heaven's Gate -1691, 6305 (Northwest of the Chariot) ==<br />
<br />
* Otter<br />
* Nobody<br />
* Zotep<br />
* Cain<br />
* Yerbouti<br />
* Tay-O-Nasty<br />
* Tor el-Wati<br />
* Kija<br />
<br />
== Heaven's Gate -1591, 6311 (Top of the hill) ==<br />
<br />
* MadeInChina<br />
* Tantalizing<br />
* Rynthas<br />
* firegolem<br />
* bcostaldawn<br />
* Volksen<br />
* strutter<br />
* Sorent<br />
* TonyG<br />
* Atheus<br />
* fahli<br />
* WaggPhysh<br />
* saladine<br />
* Sagen<br />
* Selima<br />
* RaTBoY<br />
* Jeni<br />
<br />
== Sinai 3319 4658 (ULEAD) ==<br />
<br />
* Apollon<br />
* Seiun<br />
* Ninfa<br />
* Tammie<br />
* Fayre<br />
* Clay<br />
* Alvik<br />
* Akc2<br />
* Zoltec<br />
* Anya<br />
* Yvonne340<br />
* Renco<br />
* Sana<br />
* LaCidra<br />
* Kanara<br />
* Abel<br />
* Sigtrygg<br />
* Elouamn<br />
* Ellorin<br />
* Mery-sit<br />
* Windingo<br />
* Tanafri<br />
* Cyndi<br />
* Brithorn<br />
* Smare<br />
* Hishan<br />
* Cyndi<br />
* Roycallaran<br />
* Enlightenment<br />
* Tammie<br />
* Tulani<br />
* Almelkehdes<br />
<br />
==Stillwater (2002,3672)==<br />
*Mery-sit<br />
*Mosi<br />
*Maxmansung<br />
*Murtha<br />
*Halana<br />
*Tiye<br />
*Windingo<br />
*Neema<br />
*Rhys<br />
*LaChidra<br />
*Ishtala<br />
*Fairy<br />
*Dagny<br />
*Mordechai<br />
*Truanna<br />
*Tanafri<br />
*Razrdi<br />
*DesertFlower<br />
*Aleena<br />
*Hekatef<br />
*Ellorin</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Christmas_Presents_2009&diff=167345Christmas Presents 20092009-12-25T23:35:34Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
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__TOC__<br />
==Please...==<br />
*Remove yourself from the list when you pick up your present.<br />
*If, when claiming your present, another person's gift is revealed underneath, please add it to the list so they will know they have one there.<br />
<br />
==Present Contents==<br />
You will get different items in your presents depending on how many you have opened.<br />
First present:<br />
*Box of [[Chocolate]]<br />
Second present:<br />
*Bundle of Ground Fireworks <br />
**(3x Bellydance, 2x Christmas Tree, 2x Strange Flower)<br />
**(2x Christmas Tree, 3x Strange Flower, 2x petal power)<br />
**(2x Bellydance, 3x I Love You, 2 The Three Kings)<br />
**(2x Christmas Tree, 2x Strange Flower, 3x I Love You)<br />
Third present:<br />
*2 Watermelon seeds<br />
<br />
==Atlas of pressies/snow storms==<br />
<br />
===All of Egypt, No Borders===<br />
<googlemap lat=1010 lon=0 zoom=1 width=512 height=512><br />
<br />
(A) 937,6930<br />
/info\<br />
Adn<br />
cooords 967,6930<br />
<br />
(A) 963,6894 <br />
/info\<br />
Adn<br />
coords 964, 6894<br />
<br />
(N) -1268,2521<br />
/info\<br />
Nomads Paradise<br />
coords -1298,6894<br />
<br />
(N) -1430, 2672<br />
/info\<br />
Nomads Paradise<br />
coords -1430, 2672<br />
<br />
(N) -1446, 2802<br />
/info\<br />
Nomads Paradise<br />
coords -1446, 2802<br />
<br />
(M) 707, -3620<br />
/info\<br />
Meroe<br />
coords 707, -3620<br />
<br />
(M) 815, -3660<br />
/info\<br />
Meroe<br />
coords 815, -3660<br />
<br />
(T) 1635, 3770<br />
/info\<br />
Stillwater<br />
coords 1635, 3770<br />
<br />
(T) 1670, 3740<br />
/info\<br />
Stillwater<br />
coords 1670, 3740<br />
<br />
(T) 1731, 3718<br />
/info\<br />
Stillwater<br />
coords 1731, 3718<br />
<br />
(H) 1456, 1931<br />
/info\<br />
Shabbat Ab<br />
coords 1456, 1931<br />
<br />
(H) 1385, 1739<br />
/info\<br />
Shabbat Ab<br />
coords 1385, 1739<br />
<br />
(H) 1421, 1725<br />
/info\<br />
Shabbat Ab<br />
coords 1421, 1725<br />
<br />
(S) 3126, 4424<br />
/info\<br />
Sinai<br />
coords 3126, 4424<br />
<br />
(S) 3193, 4410<br />
/info\<br />
Sinai<br />
coords 3193, 4410<br />
<br />
(S) 3335, 4292<br />
/info\<br />
Sinai<br />
coords 3335, 4292<br />
<br />
(Q) 807,-866<br />
/info\ <br />
Saqqarah<br />
coords 807,-866<br />
<br />
(Q) 754,-757<br />
/info\ <br />
Saqqarah<br />
coords 754,-757<br />
<br />
(R) 404,-6169<br />
/info\<br />
Queens Retreat<br />
coords 404,-6169<br />
<br />
(F) 4297, -791<br />
/info\<br />
Falcon Bay<br />
coords 4297, -791<br />
<br />
(F) 4344 , -600<br />
/info\<br />
Falcon Bay<br />
coords 4344 , -600<br />
<br />
(F) 4237, -700<br />
/info\<br />
Falcon Bay<br />
coords 4237, -700<br />
<br />
(C) -481, 6697<br />
/info\<br />
Cat's Claw Ridge<br />
coords -481, 6697<br />
<br />
(C) -386, 6584<br />
/info\<br />
Cat's Claw Ridge<br />
coords -386, 6584<br />
<br />
(C) -488, 6541<br />
/info\<br />
Cat's Claw Ridge<br />
coords -488, 6541<br />
<br />
(P) 4255, 7455<br />
/info\<br />
Pyramid Lake<br />
coords 4255, 7455<br />
<br />
(P) 4279, 7614<br />
/info\<br />
Pyramid Lake<br />
coords 4279, 7614<br />
<br />
(K) -2007, -414<br />
/info\<br />
Khmun<br />
coords -2007, -414<br />
<br />
(K) -2087, -481<br />
/info\<br />
Khmun<br />
coords -2087, -481<br />
<br />
(H) -1800,6450<br />
/info\<br />
Heaven's Gate<br />
coords -1800,6450<br />
<br />
(H) -1691, 6305<br />
/info\<br />
Heaven's Gate<br />
coords -1691, 6305<br />
<br />
(H) -1591, 6311<br />
/info\<br />
Heaven's Gate<br />
coords -1591, 6311<br />
<br />
</googlemap><br />
<br />
== Adn (937, 6930) Near SArt ==<br />
* Hathor<br />
* Drking420<br />
* Elroth<br />
* Inambagum<br />
* Miw-sher<br />
* Reyzer<br />
* Fergie<br />
* Aleena<br />
* Tsukasa<br />
* Nebamon<br />
* Parislynn<br />
<br />
== Adn (962, 6895) ==<br />
* Khaemwaset<br />
* Myna<br />
* Elroth<br />
* Katarina<br />
* Siffy<br />
* Arguz<br />
* Taffer<br />
* mikis2ndchance<br />
* Hathor<br />
* Choltai<br />
* lulubelle<br />
* Phoenixwcu<br />
* Alu<br />
* Tunnen<br />
* Anukhu<br />
* sparkle<br />
* FlyingHigh<br />
* BL<br />
<br />
== Adn (1053, 6958) ==<br />
* Telanoc<br />
* Nissim<br />
* ZiamorKyo<br />
* terrin<br />
* Fergie<br />
* CamelJocky<br />
* Ankhotep<br />
* Sissue<br />
* benzrf<br />
* HULK<br />
* SaiCoSis<br />
* Rania<br />
* Arguz<br />
* Cegaiel<br />
* Hathor<br />
* Martouf<br />
* Strobofant<br />
* Savarin<br />
<br />
== Meroe (707, -3620) West of the Chariot == <br />
<br />
''Updated 05:44GMT Dec 25 to reflect what is still at this location''<br />
<br />
* Lukeera<br />
* Darwishi<br />
* yvonne340<br />
* Tyco<br />
* Lill<br />
* Avyer<br />
* Choukam<br />
<br />
== Meroe (815, -3660) at CS ==<br />
<br />
* Lightbeing<br />
* Nefer-titi<br />
* amun<br />
* Celdyrian<br />
* AmisiBastet<br />
* Sayana<br />
* Khaemwaset<br />
* tmar<br />
* mac<br />
* zowee<br />
* nourbese<br />
* zog<br />
* lulubelle<br />
* Sagen<br />
<br />
== Stillwater (1635, 3770) Near SHarmony ==<br />
<br />
* Darky<br />
* Hulk<br />
* blondie<br />
* Ishtala<br />
* Amon-ra<br />
* ZiamorKyo<br />
* Zotep<br />
* TeaAira<br />
* Sterling<br />
* Zomboe<br />
* Phelaen<br />
<br />
== Stillwater (1670, 3740) Near CS ==<br />
<br />
* Khaemwaset<br />
* Strobofant<br />
* Selima<br />
* Duncan<br />
* Seeker<br />
* Minkus<br />
* darkfyre<br />
* Peace<br />
* AbuTaid<br />
* bcostaldawn<br />
* Anthotep<br />
* SaiCoSis<br />
<br />
== Stillwater (1731, 3718) Near CS ==<br />
<br />
* Ziky<br />
* Asheara<br />
* Garai<br />
* RoyCallahan<br />
* Babba69<br />
* Crashley<br />
* Philadelphia<br />
* Salrilk<br />
* Atheus<br />
* Silverglass<br />
* McArinesSlave<br />
* taylor<br />
<br />
== Shabbat Ab (1456, 1931) Near the Goods ==<br />
<br />
* Isaday<br />
* Volksen<br />
* Martouf<br />
* Lightbeing<br />
* ixel<br />
* Endie<br />
* Oztwo<br />
* MadeInChina<br />
* Primoz<br />
* Shemei<br />
* Panyea<br />
* sparkle<br />
* Spooner<br />
* Alexa<br />
* RaRa<br />
<br />
== Shabbat Ab 1385, 1739 (South of Chariot) ==<br />
<br />
* logosmaid<br />
* Quasnia<br />
* lulubelle<br />
* Chelle<br />
* Haydee<br />
* Jeni <br />
* Celdyrian<br />
* roohotep<br />
* nourbese<br />
* Gronk<br />
* Anukhu<br />
* Lynx-DLK<br />
* Garai<br />
* saladine<br />
* Alu<br />
* Talos<br />
<br />
== Shabbat Ab (1421, 1725) - further South of Chariot ==<br />
<br />
* Salrilk<br />
* taylor<br />
* Thaine<br />
* Talos<br />
* zing<br />
* Lightbeing<br />
* Tedra<br />
* McArinesSlave<br />
* Philadelphia<br />
* Lukeera <br />
* wiked<br />
* Mordechai<br />
* Babba69<br />
* Silverglass<br />
* lilinou<br />
* RoyCallahan<br />
* Tyco<br />
* Detour<br />
<br />
== Sinai (3126, 4424) near S Arch ==<br />
<br />
* Aku<br />
* benzrf<br />
* aoife<br />
* mikis2ndchance<br />
* falhi<br />
* Teil<br />
* Choltai<br />
* Khandras<br />
* iziz<br />
* hanid<br />
* trillian<br />
* Zog<br />
* Ziky<br />
* albertine<br />
* Skalops<br />
* Sonny<br />
* Rania<br />
* SpicyXX<br />
* Nefer-titi<br />
* AmisiBastet<br />
<br />
== Sinai (3193, 4410) near S Arch ==<br />
<br />
* Chelsis<br />
* Renard<br />
* Quasnia<br />
* amun<br />
* Jaet<br />
* Myn<br />
* Nori<br />
* Anish<br />
* murtha<br />
* Amnhotep<br />
* HayunSiki<br />
* tmar<br />
* Kartal<br />
* Duncan<br />
* Nitocris<br />
* benzrf<br />
* Zeb<br />
<br />
== Sinai (3335, 4292) Near SArt ==<br />
<br />
* Jintaka<br />
* Rynthas<br />
* Phoenixwcu<br />
* ysabeau<br />
* Hmptwister<br />
* nilelady<br />
* Dreasimy<br />
* Esther<br />
* Tulyen<br />
* Cain<br />
* Crashley<br />
* Somali<br />
<br />
== Saqqarah (807,-866) South of CS by road ==<br />
<br />
* Darky<br />
* Neurfur<br />
* firegolem<br />
* Akinater<br />
* Serefina<br />
* Priapos<br />
* Miw-Sher<br />
* Scorpion<br />
* AnieW<br />
* Shemei<br />
* Anish<br />
* Freyja<br />
* Bells (not there)<br />
* Zomboe<br />
* Renard<br />
* yvonne340<br />
* iziz<br />
* Shebi<br />
* MariahBoPeep<br />
* albertine<br />
* emilyliz<br />
<br />
== Saqqarah (754,-757) At Cs==<br />
<br />
* Talos<br />
* Sparkle<br />
* Shawn<br />
* Minkus<br />
* Khadras<br />
* Oztwo<br />
* Maxmansung<br />
* Anaksunamun<br />
* Paavo<br />
* Anukhu<br />
* Mala<br />
* Ishtishtala<br />
* Dphantom<br />
* Endie<br />
* Klax<br />
* Chelle<br />
* Stevehotep<br />
* Roohotep<br />
* Lorraine<br />
<br />
== Queen's Retreat (404,-6169) West of CS by road ==<br />
<br />
* Aleena<br />
* Esther<br />
* Reyzer<br />
* lilac<br />
* Phoenixwcu<br />
* Amenka<br />
* Trillian<br />
* mikis2ndchance<br />
* kuupid<br />
* Sonny<br />
* Ziky<br />
* tuttenrah<br />
* Hanid<br />
* fahli<br />
* Zuna<br />
* zaxaz<br />
* nilelady<br />
* ixel<br />
* Tunnen<br />
* Lukeera<br />
<br />
== Falcon Bay (4297, -791) South of CS by the road ==<br />
<br />
* mork<br />
* Izuela<br />
* naetorius<br />
* Siffy<br />
* UmLim<br />
* Detour<br />
* Raspberry<br />
* Priapos<br />
* Mariasha<br />
* Tammy<br />
* BRANDI<br />
* Tor-el-Wati<br />
* Paavo<br />
* Nemoder<br />
* Dphantom<br />
* Anaksunaun<br />
* BooBoo<br />
* Akanai<br />
* daninicholls<br />
* RoadApple<br />
* Telanoc<br />
<br />
== Falcon Bay (4344 , -600) ==<br />
<br />
* Nitocris<br />
* bcoastaldawn<br />
* RoadApple<br />
* nebkhepure<br />
* hilly<br />
* Alu<br />
* Dreasimy<br />
* Zeb<br />
* pinger<br />
* RaTBoY<br />
<br />
== Falcon Bay (4237, -700) ==<br />
<br />
* Bells<br />
* SaiCoSis<br />
* Hemptwister<br />
* UmLim<br />
* Jintaka<br />
* Chelsis<br />
* Taemon<br />
* zowee<br />
* klax<br />
* Panyea<br />
* Shukura<br />
* Nefer-titi<br />
* albertine<br />
* Fergie<br />
* emeraldlily<br />
* AmenKa<br />
* Aryballa<br />
<br />
== Cat's Claw Ridge (-481, 6697) NW of CS ==<br />
<br />
* Anish<br />
* Ephemere<br />
* Akinater<br />
* Denalu<br />
* Tunnen<br />
* lorraine<br />
* Freyja<br />
* Neurfur<br />
* Shawn<br />
* neyoud<br />
* BL<br />
* Tay-o-Nasty<br />
* gambler<br />
* Mebala<br />
* tmar<br />
* Hagop<br />
* Kartal<br />
* zeid<br />
<br />
== Cat's Claw Ridge (-386, 6584) E of CS ==<br />
<br />
* SueV<br />
* darkfyre<br />
* Aku<br />
* Raspberry<br />
* haxxed<br />
* logosmaid<br />
* TamBlack<br />
* Lynx-DLK<br />
* Bastia<br />
* Siffy<br />
* Tao<br />
* Asheara<br />
* Tyco<br />
* zeid<br />
<br />
== Cat's Claw Ridge (-488, 6541) SW of CS ==<br />
<br />
* Teil<br />
* dedenav<br />
* Mariasha<br />
* Miw-Sher<br />
* Nobody<br />
* iziz<br />
* Piff<br />
* terrin<br />
* Dphantom<br />
* Amnhotep<br />
* Khadras<br />
* Thaine<br />
* gambler<br />
* Frouvlox<br />
* Freyja<br />
* SueVN<br />
* roohotep<br />
* Stevehotep<br />
* Lill<br />
<br />
== Pyramid Lake (4255, 7455) South of the Chariot, along the road ==<br />
<br />
* Robare<br />
* Heterika<br />
* WaggPhysh<br />
* Sagen<br />
* FlyingHigh<br />
* Tao<br />
* firegolem<br />
* SueVN<br />
* Maata<br />
* Klax<br />
* mala<br />
* AmonWil<br />
* haxxed<br />
* Nobody<br />
* Haunting<br />
* Sappy<br />
* Serefina<br />
* MariahBoPeep<br />
* Mekei<br />
<br />
== Pyramid Lake (4279, 7614) at Chariot==<br />
<br />
* Tulyen<br />
* Ninfa<br />
* Hemptwister<br />
* Haunting<br />
* Garei<br />
* Aoife<br />
* Pacer<br />
* Robare<br />
* Atena<br />
* Kanrah<br />
* BooBoo<br />
* Gronk<br />
* Blondie<br />
* Neoder<br />
* Bl<br />
* Elroth<br />
* Selima<br />
* Daninicholls<br />
<br />
== Nomad's Paradise (-1268,2521) Southeast of the Chariot, by U Body ==<br />
<br />
* ParisLynn<br />
* Akanai<br />
* Isaday<br />
* Katarina<br />
* Zahra<br />
* Ephemere<br />
* Teil<br />
* Sappy<br />
* AliceBlue<br />
* Daxier<br />
* Tammy<br />
* Skalops<br />
* Taffer<br />
* Detour<br />
* drking420<br />
* InambaGuum<br />
* ShuoftheFieryHeat<br />
* MissVera<br />
<br />
== Nomad's Paradise -1430, 2672 ==<br />
<br />
* Keko<br />
* Silverglass<br />
* erg<br />
* Chelle<br />
* Otter<br />
* Peace<br />
* atenakanrah<br />
* RoadApple<br />
* Anaksunamun<br />
* Tula<br />
* Kija<br />
* Quasnia<br />
* McArinesSlave<br />
* Mac<br />
* zeid<br />
<br />
== Nomad's Paradise -1446, 2802 ==<br />
<br />
* Kija<br />
* Jakzar<br />
* Mariasha<br />
* terrin<br />
* Aubery<br />
* Taemon<br />
* Shukura<br />
* Dionysis<br />
* amun<br />
* Maxmansung<br />
* Otter<br />
* Bastia<br />
* Mac<br />
* TamBlack<br />
* Kanara<br />
* Kalmkitty<br />
<br />
== Khmun (-2127, -480) ==<br />
<br />
* haxxed<br />
* jazkar<br />
* lilac<br />
* nourbese<br />
* Ayver<br />
* Callawen<br />
* zaxaz<br />
* Cain<br />
* Zog<br />
* Lynx-DLK<br />
* Salrilk<br />
* Philadelphia<br />
* Phelaen<br />
* lorraine<br />
* JoeW<br />
* Jingle<br />
* Shebi<br />
* Dionysius<br />
<br />
== Khmun -2007, -414 (NorthEast of the Chariot) ==<br />
<br />
* gambler<br />
* Murat (-)<br />
* BRANDI (-)<br />
* Ayver<br />
* Rags<br />
* Cuadan (-)<br />
* Izuela<br />
* ysabeau<br />
* Kytten<br />
* Spooner<br />
* Chaul (-)<br />
* Rynthas<br />
* SpicyXX<br />
* Shai-Hulud<br />
* Volksen<br />
* Mekei<br />
* Jintaka (-)<br />
<br />
==Khmun (-2087, -481) At the CS ==<br />
<br />
*Mebala<br />
*Sterling<br />
*Choukam<br />
*Aubery<br />
*Maata<br />
*Nebamon<br />
*Crashley<br />
*Phelaen<br />
*Haydee<br />
*DustiTwister<br />
*Tula<br />
*Taemon<br />
<br />
== Heaven's Gate -1800,6450 (Northwest of the Chariot) ==<br />
<br />
* Amon-Ra<br />
* atenakanrah<br />
* Pacer<br />
* kuupid<br />
* Aryballa<br />
* Hagop<br />
* Nitocris<br />
* tsukasa<br />
* Alexa<br />
* naetorius<br />
* Taffer<br />
* Tula<br />
* Choltai<br />
* Shai-Hulud<br />
* neyoud<br />
* TheMaseEcho<br />
* CamelJocky<br />
<br />
== Heaven's Gate -1691, 6305 (Northwest of the Chariot) ==<br />
<br />
* Otter<br />
* Luckylisa<br />
* Nobody<br />
* Zotep<br />
* EvilSnowman<br />
* Cain<br />
* Primoz<br />
* TeaAira<br />
* Heterika<br />
* mrkarl<br />
* Peace<br />
* RaRa<br />
* Yerbouti<br />
* Tay-O-Nasty<br />
* Tor el-Wati<br />
* Halana<br />
* Kija<br />
<br />
== Heaven's Gate -1591, 6311 (Top of the hill) ==<br />
<br />
* DustiTwister<br />
* MadeInChina<br />
* Tantalizing<br />
* Rynthas<br />
* firegolem<br />
* Cronus<br />
* bcostaldawn<br />
* Volksen<br />
* strutter<br />
* Sorent<br />
* naetorius<br />
* Nissim<br />
* TonyG<br />
* Atheus<br />
* fahli<br />
* WaggPhysh<br />
* saladine<br />
* Sagen<br />
* Selima<br />
* RaTBoY<br />
* Jeni</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=GOO_Events/Flower_Talk_Lesson_3&diff=163745GOO Events/Flower Talk Lesson 32009-12-13T01:22:30Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
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Dreasimy: ~~~Welcome to Class Everyone!~~~ <br />
Dreasimy: Ariella, Pascalito, please proceed :D<br />
Ariella: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Flower_Genome_Theories#Sea_Lily_Genome_Theory<br />
Ariella: If everyone would go to that link please and then scroll up to look at the orchid theory page.<br />
Ariella: Let me know when you are looking at that page.<br />
AliceBlue: hi Ariella and Pascalito. yep got that page up<br />
Dreasimy: ditto :D<br />
Ariella: We have gone over gene sets and what they do. Can someone tell me what a gene set does?<br />
AliceBlue: controls colours size and fert amounts<br />
Ariella: That's pretty correct but specific. If you were defining then that would leave out the amount of flax produced or how much maximum color stat in a tend.<br />
Ariella: Gene sets control aspects of plants.<br />
AliceBlue: ah ok was thinking about flowers :-)<br />
Ariella: Someone tell me (by looking at the orchid fact page what the gene set GGG would do on an orchid?<br />
Ariella: Yes Alice :) And I hear that alot. That most players think genetics is only about flowers. It is about flax, wheat, vines, anything cross breedable.<br />
Pascalito: hopefully papy and veggies next tale :)<br />
AliceBlue: papy wow thats revolution, did we rebel? hehe<br />
Ariella: Anyone have an answer for my last question?<br />
Dreasimy: I want to say GGG makes something yellow but that can't be right as Im looking at orchids with GGG in the gene thingy and these flowers dont have yellow, that I can see<br />
blondie: *pictures ooodles of papy*<br />
AliceBlue: maybe GGG would give green lower petals?<br />
Pascalito: it is correct Dreasimy<br />
Pascalito: now what does it make yellow ?<br />
AliceBlue: ah yes G= yellow <br />
Dreasimy: like aliceblue I would have said lower petals<br />
Ariella: a gene set of xxx (three of the color code genes) color the orchid lower petals<br />
Ariella: Notice also that the color key only uses coloring of flowers from the primary colors...which are?<br />
Dreasimy: CMY? Cyan Magenta Yellow?<br />
Ariella: Yes :)<br />
Ariella: And I think there is an oddity with orchids and gene sets<br />
AliceBlue: doesn't seem any fert amount type gene set?<br />
Ariella: As far as I know orchids are the only flowers that can color the same area of the flower (the lower petals) with two different gene sets...which are?<br />
Pascalito: correct Alice<br />
Pascalito: Orchids are blazing fast splitters, all of them<br />
Ariella: Only lilies have a fert amount gene set...the V gene set<br />
Ariella: Does anyone see what two gene sets color orchid lower petals? Please use the variable x when you tell them.<br />
AliceBlue: can't quite see about two sets for lower petals?<br />
Dreasimy: is it xxx and URx?<br />
AliceBlue: ah yes xxx and URx<br />
Dreasimy: sounds dirty<br />
Ariella: See the heading "Color gene sets:" and then look at the end of that group<br />
Ariella: Any of our quiet readers who can answer?<br />
Ariella: yes that is right alice :)<br />
Ariella: Now what gene set colors the upper petal?<br />
AliceBlue: Rx<br />
Ariella: your basic prescriptoin ;)<br />
AliceBlue: lol<br />
Ariella: This gets into something more advanced and fun....besides having x-rated and pharmacy drugs <br />
Ariella: We can overlap gene sets.<br />
Ariella: Let's see if someone can put two and three together. <br />
AliceBlue: Are ther only three positions in the gene set?<br />
Dreasimy: would that mean there isn't a line between where the left split parent ends and the right split parent begins?<br />
Ariella: If you wanted to color both the upper petal and the lower petals but only use 4 genes to build the two overlapped gene sets, could someone tell me what that would be?<br />
Pascalito: The line of the slice is virtual, the hybrid does not *se* that line<br />
AliceBlue: no, lost now<br />
Ariella: yes there are three positions in the lower petal gene set.<br />
Dreasimy: except for the size gene sets?<br />
Pascalito: *see*<br />
Ariella: Dreasimy, I'm not sure what your question above means. Are you talking about the child flower genome?<br />
Pascalito: even then, if RO comes from left and YG from right, you have a giant<br />
Dreasimy: ya but no worries I was just guessing at the question :D<br />
Ariella: At this point we are talking about gene sets in general. So Rx would color the upper petal. xxx or URx would color the lower petals. <br />
AliceBlue: Not quite sure what the U and the R are meaning?<br />
Ariella: You can overlap gene sets. What is that pencil puzzle game that you can find hidden words inside of a block of letters?<br />
Pascalito: just controlling genes, like any letter in a word, and not variable like x (x determines the color)<br />
Ariella: Remember in lilies that Uxxx...the U meant the xxx color would color the inner petals.<br />
AliceBlue: ok<br />
Ariella: If we capitalize a letter gene in a gene set then it is static and has a definite control over an aspect of the plant.<br />
Pascalito: You will notice that the very short gene sets in orchids allow for loads of colors in very few genes:)<br />
Dreasimy: so, Rxxx could color both sets of upper and lower petals? because it contains Rx (upper) and xxx (lower)?<br />
AliceBlue: so you get xxxx for that overlap?<br />
Ariella: Dreasimy that is correct :)<br />
AliceBlue: ok<br />
Ariella: There is also another overlap of only three gene letters...URx.<br />
Pascalito: another small example: what would this sequence of genes cause: YUROO ?<br />
Ariella: URx would color the upper petal and the Rx part would also color the lower petals <br />
Ariella: What is that pencil puzzle called that has hidden words in a block of letters where you circle words that can be found diagonally, vertically or horizontally?<br />
Pascalito: Hint: those 5 genes contain 4 gene sets...<br />
Dreasimy: yellow leaves and cyan main petals? since xU is now Yellow U (leaves) and Rxx is now R cyan cyan (main petals)?<br />
Ariella: yes Dreasimy :)<br />
AliceBlue: In YUROO are you calling variables?<br />
Pascalito: YU is magenta leaves btw<br />
Ariella: Is everyone familiar with that pencil puzzle? That is what looking at a genome is like. <br />
AliceBlue: or is it part of the size?<br />
Dreasimy: oh right oops that Y gets me every time :D<br />
Ariella: xURxx is the format alice<br />
Pascalito: yup, was same for me after lilies<br />
Ariella: So you would find xU and URx and Rx and Rxx gene sets in that sequence<br />
AliceBlue: cyan main petals and magenta leaves<br />
Ariella: Why is this important that gene sets can overlap?<br />
Dreasimy: the pencil puzzle I think is what I'd call a word search but maybe there's another name for it :D<br />
Ariella: I'll answer my question.<br />
Dreasimy: good cuz I have no idea :D<br />
Ariella: Genomes have lengths. So if you know how to overlap gene sets then you cram more 'stuff' happening into that genome.<br />
Ariella: Genomes are not static however, like we saw in the advanced cross breeding where we figured the length of the child flower.<br />
Pascalito: you cannot even avoid some stuff from happening, take ROYG for instance...<br />
AliceBlue: does any of the overlap mean you get a stronger colour?<br />
Pascalito: repetition gives stronger color<br />
Pascalito: overlap makes it often easier to combine things<br />
Ariella: Alice, only if you can cram more gene sets in, then you can get more layering of color on a certain area of the flower.<br />
AliceBlue: ok, yes repetion like on the lillies<br />
Ariella: Does anyone have any questions about the overlapping?<br />
Dreasimy: so basically your individual gene of R or O or whatever can participate in 2 gene sets and getting that right can maximize your output of manageble characteristics?<br />
Pascalito: ROYG (giant gene set) ALWAYS has RO in it of course, RO meansCyan Upper Petal !<br />
Dreasimy: ahh<br />
Ariella: To make sure everyone understands about shades of color and gene sets... yes, Dreasimy, good way to put i.<br />
Pascalito: just like Rxx also has Rx in it, always; no way to color main petals without coloring upper petal :-P<br />
Dreasimy: ahh :)<br />
Ariella: We see that Ux colors the stem. Looking at the color key we see that if we use O for x and have UO in a gene set then the stem is colored what color?<br />
AliceBlue: cyan<br />
Ariella: yes :) So if have Ux and Ux as UO and UG what color would the stem be (hint: think of a secondary color we talked about)?<br />
Ariella: If we have those two gene sets somewhere in the genome, that is<br />
Dreasimy: well cyan and yellow make.....<br />
Dreasimy: green? :D<br />
Ariella: right :) What if UOUG were right next to each other in a genome? What parts of the orchid would be colored and what color would each part be?<br />
AliceBlue: stem green leaves cyan<br />
Dreasimy: I agree on stem but I thought leaves yellow<br />
Ariella: O in the color code is cyan. OU <br />
Dreasimy: I think i messed up<br />
Dreasimy: hehe<br />
AliceBlue: getting the hang of the variables<br />
Dreasimy: good job AliceBlue :D<br />
Ariella: If you do like the word search then you could circle these gene sets...UO, OU and UG. Since UO and UG both color the stem then you have color layering to think about too.<br />
AliceBlue: so the OR in dwarf could be overlap with xR of front petal where x = O<br />
Ariella: One last test on gene set overlapping...YUROOOU<br />
Pascalito: yes, dwarf always does cyan front petal shade<br />
Ariella: yes it would alice :)<br />
Ariella: separate out the gene sets first, then tell the area of the orchid and colors.<br />
Dreasimy: Ok so YU URO RO OOO OU = YU Magenta Leaves + OU Cyan Leaves = Blue Leaves? and then URO Cyan lower petals + OOO Cyan lower petals = really cyan lower petals, and RO = Cyan upper petals, and ROO = cyan main petals?<br />
Dreasimy: oops forgot ROO in my gene sets<br />
Pascalito: excellent !!!<br />
Ariella: yes that is correct :)<br />
Ariella: I just wanted everyone to have some examples so that they can go back and look at these as reference.<br />
AliceBlue: will have to sort that out later, got lost on that one<br />
Ariella: Also, now that you see how overlapping works, let's go back to cross breeding a minute.<br />
Dreasimy: doing the word search thing really helped with that example for me<br />
Ariella: good :)<br />
Pascalito: we do that all the time<br />
Ariella: Look at your orchid child flower that was the homework cross.<br />
Pascalito: sometimes other way round when we build gene strings for specific targets<br />
Ariella: Maybe this can help explain why your child flower does not necessarily take colors strictly from the parent flowers.<br />
AliceBlue: I wrote down your answer Dreasimy!<br />
Dreasimy: hehe this will all be on the log too :D<br />
Ariella: Where a splice occurs between the two parent genomes it can put together a gene set(s) that were not originally in either parent.<br />
Pascalito: Just like I remember Rania having a dwarf lily from parents that had no dwarf gene sets at all<br />
Ariella: Btw, in the above example, it would be shade 2 cyan lower petals as Dreasimy put it 'really' cyan lower petals. We abbreviate that as LPcyan2<br />
Dreasimy: okie<br />
Ariella: Lower Petals cyan shade 2<br />
Pascalito: You guys remember the max number of shades possible ?<br />
Ariella: You remember how we centered the shorter genome of the Left Splint and Right Splint parent?<br />
AliceBlue: yes 4 shades<br />
Dreasimy: ya this time I put my parents genomes in a spreadsheet and printed them out the bigger one on top<br />
Ariella: If the child flower length had been a fraction and you rounded up then you would shift the shortest genome by 1 towards the Splint side it was in. If the shortest genome was on the Left Splint you shift it 1 to the Left over the Right Splint genome. If the shortest genome was on the Right Splint then you shift it to the Right under the Left Splint genome. <br />
Ariella: The above is a reminder.<br />
Ariella: I'll point out one more difference about sea lilies and orchid gene sets. <br />
Ariella: With orchids a giant gene set ROYG and a dwarf gene set GYOR in the same genome would cancel each other out equally in an orchid genome.<br />
Ariella: It takes two giant gene sets ROYG+ROYG and only one dwarf gene set GYOR to cancel out and make a normal size flower.<br />
Ariella: One last example on advanced cross breeding as a review.<br />
Ariella: Sorry, on the sentence above I meant a normal size lily.<br />
Ariella: Let's pretend we have two parents with very short genomes. Left Splint UROOO and RO.<br />
Ariella: RO is the Right Splint genome<br />
Ariella: UROOO with RO centered underneath. But you see that RO does not center. You need to shift RO by 1 gene in which direction?<br />
Dreasimy: right, since it was in the right split so it gets moved 1 spot toward the direction it was the split of...<br />
AliceBlue: to right<br />
Dreasimy: we both get a cookie! (I hope)<br />
Ariella: Excellent :)<br />
AliceBlue: hehe<br />
Ariella: So OR lines up under the first OO or UROOO<br />
Ariella: chocolate chip...now I"m hungry<br />
Ariella: And how long would the child flower be?<br />
Dreasimy: 4 genomes?<br />
Ariella: the first OO of UROOO<br />
Dreasimy: you take the average of the 2 parent lengths and round up?<br />
AliceBlue: 4<br />
Ariella: heehee 4 genes, yes<br />
Ariella: And where would the beginning of the child flower genome start with?<br />
AliceBlue: the U of the parent on top<br />
Ariella: and a sentence above should read "So RO lines up under the first OO of UROOO"<br />
Ariella: So list some possible child flower genomes<br />
AliceBlue: does the last O of the parent drop off because it is beyond the last splice point?<br />
Ariella: yes alice<br />
Pascalito: just like the UR of the left is always part of the child<br />
Dreasimy: It seems like it has to be UROO where only the O of the right split is part of the child<br />
Ariella: you always keep the first genes of the longest genome where it has no genes under it from the shorter genome<br />
Ariella: Possible child flower genomes...<br />
Ariella: URRO<br />
AliceBlue: or URR<br />
AliceBlue: from first splice point<br />
Ariella: UROO where Dreasimy said and also that same genome but it is retaining the last two OOs from the Left Splint or longest genome and no genes from the shorter genome parent.<br />
AliceBlue: eeep maybe URR doesn't exist?<br />
Dreasimy: ok my confusion is stemming from there is no UR or URR genome? or so I thought :D<br />
Ariella: Alice, remember that the child flower will be 4 genes long...5 (left splint genome length) + 2 (right splint genome length) divided by 2 and rounded up to 4.<br />
Pascalito: it could technically exist, in the special instance of an eliminated gene (we do not consider those yet really)<br />
AliceBlue: ok :-)<br />
Ariella: So RO is lined up under the first OO of UROOO<br />
Ariella: and the first splice point (or visually the vertical line you draw) would be right after UR but in front of the R in the short genome RO.<br />
Ariella: So that could make a possibility of UR-RO<br />
Ariella: Basically then number of possible child genomes is the length of the shortest genome parent + 1.<br />
Ariella: Dreasimy does that help?<br />
Ariella: Which is 2+1=3<br />
Dreasimy: I think, so basically in this case the options for child are UROO, URRO and UROO, because you can get your O's in 2 places?<br />
Ariella: URRO<br />
Ariella: UROO <br />
Ariella: UROO<br />
Ariella: yes :)<br />
Dreasimy: I got you homie :D<br />
Ariella: yo, high five!<br />
AliceBlue: but that is length of shortest plus 2?<br />
AliceBlue: oops forget I said that<br />
AliceBlue: confusing amount with length sry<br />
Ariella: No, that's okay. Please everyone talk out loud as you think it out.<br />
Ariella: I think that is all for tonight unless someone has a question? <br />
AliceBlue: I'll think out the word search and chat you if I still can't see it :-)<br />
Dreasimy: I guess my biggest question is visually how can I guess if my color difference from parent to child is just more intense shades or a different color adding to it<br />
Dreasimy: just deductivly looking at the word search possibilities?<br />
Ariella: Yes, anyone is welcome to chat either Pascalito or myself about this stuff.<br />
Ariella: Dreasimy that's a good point about color shades.<br />
Ariella: We routinely plant new baby flowers beside ones of same shades or near same sizes or we can't tell lol<br />
AliceBlue: My flower got hot pink main petals<br />
Ariella: And one reminder, there could also be the possibility of a subtracted gene or added gene in the example above.<br />
Dreasimy: me too Alice way more pink than the hidden in darkness main petals which look kinda red to me<br />
Ariella: So some more possible child flower genomes could be...<br />
Pascalito: I have also started work on a very long term project: making 125 lilies with all possible colors on middle stamen<br />
Ariella: URO<br />
Ariella: UOO<br />
AliceBlue: why did we want our name on it?<br />
Ariella: URRRO<br />
Ariella: Thanks, Alice, meant to say why that is important<br />
Ariella: UROOO<br />
Ariella: Thinking about how important it can be to track genomes and know the possibilities of your child flower genomes...<br />
AliceBlue: the homework is max fun anyway even if the lectures are hard<br />
Ariella: Someone this week (and many other weeks) asked for advice on the next cross after they used a hybrid flower from someone else.<br />
Ariella: If the beautiful hybrid you got from someone else does not have their name on it as a prefix...say Pascarella Pipsqueak....<br />
Ariella: and you forgot who it was from, how would you make an intelligent cross if you did not know which end of the genome the giant set was on? Or the two magenta lower petal sets that made your orchid glow.<br />
Dreasimy: you'd... throw some mutagens on them and cross your fingers for awesomeness? :D<br />
AliceBlue: LOL<br />
Dreasimy: aka you couldnt make an intelligent cross<br />
Ariella: It is not vanity to put your name as a prefix. There are very good reasons. Then you could chat that originator of the flower, ask what the probably genomes is and go 'hot dog! that double giant set is on the left side'.<br />
AliceBlue: right :-)<br />
AliceBlue: mine got giant, did yours too Dreasimy?<br />
Ariella: lol awesomeness could take awhile in that case Dreasimy, and cost alot of mutagens ;)<br />
Dreasimy: ya Alice :D<br />
AliceBlue: ver cool, I called Mine Alice Blue Sunrise<br />
Dreasimy: I tlooks almost exactly like Hidden in the Darkness but more pinky purply on the main petals and lower petals<br />
Dreasimy: Mine is Hidden in Dreasimy rofl<br />
AliceBlue: hahahah<br />
Ariella: Alice, because yours got a giant then you at least know that the splice occurred AFTER the giant gene set.<br />
Pascalito: giant or not in the homework child is a very good start to eliminate a series of possible splices :)<br />
Ariella: lol Dreasimy<br />
AliceBlue: ok :-)<br />
Pascalito: guess what i just did :-P<br />
Dreasimy: discovered the way to crossbreed papyrus?<br />
Ariella: And now just look at the color and size gene sets to try and interpret your child flower and where that splice might be.<br />
Pascalito: FEEEEEEEERT!<br />
AliceBlue: hehe<br />
Dreasimy: <ducks for cover><br />
Ariella: Again...if you're super curious...and it's a very gorgeous flower...split it and put two splits in the greenhouse and hit it with solvents.<br />
AliceBlue: and beautiful purple upper petal, quite amazing<br />
Pascalito: poor fishiess in it...<br />
Dreasimy: my purple upper looks the same as the hidden in darkness parent :D<br />
Dreasimy: so you musta got an extra shade :D<br />
AliceBlue: no think mine is same too, but the front petals went purplish too<br />
Ariella: possible you could have an added gene that made added color too<br />
AliceBlue: made it look more prple :-)<br />
Dreasimy: Ya know GOO likes handing out prizes... so I want to give a gold star out today<br />
Dreasimy: In honor of your focused attention and academic achievements, AliceBlue you win a Huge Quartz (aka gold star) :D<br />
AliceBlue: hehe ty :-)<br />
Pascalito: for builds, we have to do as if doublimg/eliminating genes is not there, but we still have to keep in mind that about 25% of hybrids have an added gene, and 25% of hybrids have an elimitated gene...<br />
AliceBlue: Question about future lessons. Are we going to actually make mutagens?<br />
AliceBlue: and if so, are there public labs?<br />
Ariella: You can, but it's not practical once you realize how to use them.<br />
AliceBlue: ok so thats not a homework assignment<br />
Dreasimy: last tale I threw mutagens randomly at things and it really didnt help so I probably wont do that again until I learn more :D<br />
Ariella: Garden of Eden's main project we work towards is Mutagenics and understanding genetics in general. We are working towards 50 mutagen labs or more and discovering as many mutagens as we can.<br />
AliceBlue: hey two hours flew by.... time to FEEEEEEERT LOL<br />
Dreasimy: Thank you Ariella and Pascalito so much for another amazing session :D Ill get the log up asap :D<br />
AliceBlue: ty too :-)<br />
Ariella: Using mutagens is about the most powerful tool in this game. And the most fun :) Those mutagens produced in the Eden labs will go out to those who learn to 'build' and turn in builds. Which means anyone can play with mutagens.<br />
Ariella: Thanks y'all :) It's fun to share and see others see the potential in this genetic stuff heehee<br />
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Dreasimy: ~~~Welcome to Class Everyone!~~~ <br />
Dreasimy: Ariella, Pascalito, please proceed :D<br />
Ariella: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Flower_Genome_Theories#Sea_Lily_Genome_Theory<br />
Ariella: If everyone would go to that link please and then scroll up to look at the orchid theory page.<br />
Ariella: Let me know when you are looking at that page.<br />
AliceBlue: hi Ariella and Pascalito. yep got that page up<br />
Dreasimy: ditto :D<br />
Ariella: We have gone over gene sets and what they do. Can someone tell me what a gene set does?<br />
AliceBlue: controls colours size and fert amounts<br />
Ariella: That's pretty correct but specific. If you were defining then that would leave out the amount of flax produced or how much maximum color stat in a tend.<br />
Ariella: Gene sets control aspects of plants.<br />
AliceBlue: ah ok was thinking about flowers :-)<br />
Ariella: Someone tell me (by looking at the orchid fact page what the gene set GGG would do on an orchid?<br />
Ariella: Yes Alice :) And I hear that alot. That most players think genetics is only about flowers. It is about flax, wheat, vines, anything cross breedable.<br />
Pascalito: hopefully papy and veggies next tale :)<br />
AliceBlue: papy wow thats revolution, did we rebel? hehe<br />
Ariella: Anyone have an answer for my last question?<br />
Dreasimy: I want to say GGG makes something yellow but that can't be right as Im looking at orchids with GGG in the gene thingy and these flowers dont have yellow, that I can see<br />
blondie: *pictures ooodles of papy*<br />
AliceBlue: maybe GGG would give green lower petals?<br />
Pascalito: it is correct Dreasimy<br />
Pascalito: now what does it make yellow ?<br />
AliceBlue: ah yes G= yellow <br />
Dreasimy: like aliceblue I would have said lower petals<br />
Ariella: a gene set of xxx (three of the color code genes) color the orchid lower petals<br />
Ariella: Notice also that the color key only uses coloring of flowers from the primary colors...which are?<br />
Dreasimy: CMY? Cyan Magenta Yellow?<br />
Ariella: Yes :)<br />
Ariella: And I think there is an oddity with orchids and gene sets<br />
AliceBlue: doesn't seem any fert amount type gene set?<br />
Ariella: As far as I know orchids are the only flowers that can color the same area of the flower (the lower petals) with two different gene sets...which are?<br />
Pascalito: correct Alice<br />
Pascalito: Orchids are blazing fast splitters, all of them<br />
Ariella: Only lilies have a fert amount gene set...the V gene set<br />
Ariella: Does anyone see what two gene sets color orchid lower petals? Please use the variable x when you tell them.<br />
AliceBlue: can't quite see about two sets for lower petals?<br />
Dreasimy: is it xxx and URx?<br />
AliceBlue: ah yes xxx and URx<br />
Dreasimy: sounds dirty<br />
Ariella: See the heading "Color gene sets:" and then look at the end of that group<br />
Ariella: Any of our quiet readers who can answer?<br />
Ariella: yes that is right alice :)<br />
Ariella: Now what gene set colors the upper petal?<br />
AliceBlue: Rx<br />
Ariella: your basic prescriptoin ;)<br />
AliceBlue: lol<br />
Ariella: This gets into something more advanced and fun....besides having x-rated and pharmacy drugs <br />
Ariella: We can overlap gene sets.<br />
Ariella: Let's see if someone can put two and three together. <br />
AliceBlue: Are ther only three positions in the gene set?<br />
Dreasimy: would that mean there isn't a line between where the left split parent ends and the right split parent begins?<br />
Ariella: If you wanted to color both the upper petal and the lower petals but only use 4 genes to build the two overlapped gene sets, could someone tell me what that would be?<br />
Pascalito: The line of the slice is virtual, the hybrid does not *se* that line<br />
AliceBlue: no, lost now<br />
Ariella: yes there are three positions in the lower petal gene set.<br />
Dreasimy: except for the size gene sets?<br />
Pascalito: *see*<br />
Ariella: Dreasimy, I'm not sure what your question above means. Are you talking about the child flower genome?<br />
Pascalito: even then, if RO comes from left and YG from right, you have a giant<br />
Dreasimy: ya but no worries I was just guessing at the question :D<br />
Ariella: At this point we are talking about gene sets in general. So Rx would color the upper petal. xxx or URx would color the lower petals. <br />
AliceBlue: Not quite sure what the U and the R are meaning?<br />
Ariella: You can overlap gene sets. What is that pencil puzzle game that you can find hidden words inside of a block of letters?<br />
Pascalito: just controlling genes, like any letter in a word, and not variable like x (x determines the color)<br />
Ariella: Remember in lilies that Uxxx...the U meant the xxx color would color the inner petals.<br />
AliceBlue: ok<br />
Ariella: If we capitalize a letter gene in a gene set then it is static and has a definite control over an aspect of the plant.<br />
Pascalito: You will notice that the very short gene sets in orchids allow for loads of colors in very few genes:)<br />
Dreasimy: so, Rxxx could color both sets of upper and lower petals? because it contains Rx (upper) and xxx (lower)?<br />
AliceBlue: so you get xxxx for that overlap?<br />
Ariella: Dreasimy that is correct :)<br />
AliceBlue: ok<br />
Ariella: There is also another overlap of only three gene letters...URx.<br />
Pascalito: another small example: what would this sequence of genes cause: YUROO ?<br />
Ariella: URx would color the upper petal and the Rx part would also color the lower petals <br />
Ariella: What is that pencil puzzle called that has hidden words in a block of letters where you circle words that can be found diagonally, vertically or horizontally?<br />
Pascalito: Hint: those 5 genes contain 4 gene sets...<br />
Dreasimy: yellow leaves and cyan main petals? since xU is now Yellow U (leaves) and Rxx is now R cyan cyan (main petals)?<br />
Ariella: yes Dreasimy :)<br />
AliceBlue: In YUROO are you calling variables?<br />
Pascalito: YU is magenta leaves btw<br />
Ariella: Is everyone familiar with that pencil puzzle? That is what looking at a genome is like. <br />
AliceBlue: or is it part of the size?<br />
Dreasimy: oh right oops that Y gets me every time :D<br />
Ariella: xURxx is the format alice<br />
Pascalito: yup, was same for me after lilies<br />
Ariella: So you would find xU and URx and Rx and Rxx gene sets in that sequence<br />
AliceBlue: cyan main petals and magenta leaves<br />
Ariella: Why is this important that gene sets can overlap?<br />
Dreasimy: the pencil puzzle I think is what I'd call a word search but maybe there's another name for it :D<br />
Ariella: I'll answer my question.<br />
Dreasimy: good cuz I have no idea :D<br />
Ariella: Genomes have lengths. So if you know how to overlap gene sets then you cram more 'stuff' happening into that genome.<br />
Ariella: Genomes are not static however, like we saw in the advanced cross breeding where we figured the length of the child flower.<br />
Pascalito: you cannot even avoid some stuff from happening, take ROYG for instance...<br />
AliceBlue: does any of the overlap mean you get a stronger colour?<br />
Pascalito: repetition gives stronger color<br />
Pascalito: overlap makes it often easier to combine things<br />
Ariella: Alice, only if you can cram more gene sets in, then you can get more layering of color on a certain area of the flower.<br />
AliceBlue: ok, yes repetion like on the lillies<br />
Ariella: Does anyone have any questions about the overlapping?<br />
Dreasimy: so basically your individual gene of R or O or whatever can participate in 2 gene sets and getting that right can maximize your output of manageble characteristics?<br />
Pascalito: ROYG (giant gene set) ALWAYS has RO in it of course, RO meansCyan Upper Petal !<br />
Dreasimy: ahh<br />
Ariella: To make sure everyone understands about shades of color and gene sets... yes, Dreasimy, good way to put i.<br />
Pascalito: just like Rxx also has Rx in it, always; no way to color main petals without coloring upper petal :-P<br />
Dreasimy: ahh :)<br />
Ariella: We see that Ux colors the stem. Looking at the color key we see that if we use O for x and have UO in a gene set then the stem is colored what color?<br />
AliceBlue: cyan<br />
Ariella: yes :) So if have Ux and Ux as UO and UG what color would the stem be (hint: think of a secondary color we talked about)?<br />
Ariella: If we have those two gene sets somewhere in the genome, that is<br />
Dreasimy: well cyan and yellow make.....<br />
Dreasimy: green? :D<br />
Ariella: right :) What if UOUG were right next to each other in a genome? What parts of the orchid would be colored and what color would each part be?<br />
AliceBlue: stem green leaves cyan<br />
Dreasimy: I agree on stem but I thought leaves yellow<br />
Ariella: O in the color code is cyan. OU <br />
Dreasimy: I think i messed up<br />
Dreasimy: hehe<br />
AliceBlue: getting the hang of the variables<br />
Dreasimy: good job AliceBlue :D<br />
Ariella: If you do like the word search then you could circle these gene sets...UO, OU and UG. Since UO and UG both color the stem then you have color layering to think about too.<br />
AliceBlue: so the OR in dwarf could be overlap with xR of front petal where x = O<br />
Ariella: One last test on gene set overlapping...YUROOOU<br />
Pascalito: yes, dwarf always does cyan front petal shade<br />
Ariella: yes it would alice :)<br />
Ariella: separate out the gene sets first, then tell the area of the orchid and colors.<br />
Dreasimy: Ok so YU URO RO OOO OU = YU Magenta Leaves + OU Cyan Leaves = Blue Leaves? and then URO Cyan lower petals + OOO Cyan lower petals = really cyan lower petals, and RO = Cyan upper petals, and ROO = cyan main petals?<br />
Dreasimy: oops forgot ROO in my gene sets<br />
Pascalito: excellent !!!<br />
Ariella: yes that is correct :)<br />
Ariella: I just wanted everyone to have some examples so that they can go back and look at these as reference.<br />
AliceBlue: will have to sort that out later, got lost on that one<br />
Ariella: Also, now that you see how overlapping works, let's go back to cross breeding a minute.<br />
Dreasimy: doing the word search thing really helped with that example for me<br />
Ariella: good :)<br />
Pascalito: we do that all the time<br />
Ariella: Look at your orchid child flower that was the homework cross.<br />
Pascalito: sometimes other way round when we build gene strings for specific targets<br />
Ariella: Maybe this can help explain why your child flower does not necessarily take colors strictly from the parent flowers.<br />
AliceBlue: I wrote down your answer Dreasimy!<br />
Dreasimy: hehe this will all be on the log too :D<br />
Ariella: Where a splice occurs between the two parent genomes it can put together a gene set(s) that were not originally in either parent.<br />
Pascalito: Just like I remember Rania having a dwarf lily from parents that had no dwarf gene sets at all<br />
Ariella: Btw, in the above example, it would be shade 2 cyan lower petals as Dreasimy put it 'really' cyan lower petals. We abbreviate that as LPcyan2<br />
Dreasimy: okie<br />
Ariella: Lower Petals cyan shade 2<br />
Pascalito: You guys remember the max number of shades possible ?<br />
Ariella: You remember how we centered the shorter genome of the Left Splint and Right Splint parent?<br />
AliceBlue: yes 4 shades<br />
Dreasimy: ya this time I put my parents genomes in a spreadsheet and printed them out the bigger one on top<br />
Ariella: If the child flower length had been a fraction and you rounded up then you would shift the shortest genome by 1 towards the Splint side it was in. If the shortest genome was on the Left Splint you shift it 1 to the Left over the Right Splint genome. If the shortest genome was on the Right Splint then you shift it to the Right under the Left Splint genome. <br />
Ariella: The above is a reminder.<br />
Ariella: I'll point out one more difference about sea lilies and orchid gene sets. <br />
Ariella: With orchids a giant gene set ROYG and a dwarf gene set GYOR in the same genome would cancel each other out equally in an orchid genome.<br />
Ariella: It takes two giant gene sets ROYG+ROYG and only one dwarf gene set GYOR to cancel out and make a normal size flower.<br />
Ariella: One last example on advanced cross breeding as a review.<br />
Ariella: Sorry, on the sentence above I meant a normal size lily.<br />
Ariella: Let's pretend we have two parents with very short genomes. Left Splint UROOO and RO.<br />
Ariella: RO is the Right Splint genome<br />
Ariella: UROOO with RO centered underneath. But you see that RO does not center. You need to shift RO by 1 gene in which direction?<br />
Dreasimy: right, since it was in the right split so it gets moved 1 spot toward the direction it was the split of...<br />
AliceBlue: to right<br />
Dreasimy: we both get a cookie! (I hope)<br />
Ariella: Excellent :)<br />
AliceBlue: hehe<br />
Ariella: So OR lines up under the first OO or UROOO<br />
Ariella: chocolate chip...now I"m hungry<br />
Ariella: And how long would the child flower be?<br />
Dreasimy: 4 genomes?<br />
Ariella: the first OO of UROOO<br />
Dreasimy: you take the average of the 2 parent lengths and round up?<br />
AliceBlue: 4<br />
Ariella: heehee 4 genes, yes<br />
Ariella: And where would the beginning of the child flower genome start with?<br />
AliceBlue: the U of the parent on top<br />
Ariella: and a sentence above should read "So RO lines up under the first OO of UROOO"<br />
Ariella: So list some possible child flower genomes<br />
AliceBlue: does the last O of the parent drop off because it is beyond the last splice point?<br />
Ariella: yes alice<br />
Pascalito: just like the UR of the left is always part of the child<br />
Dreasimy: It seems like it has to be UROO where only the O of the right split is part of the child<br />
Ariella: you always keep the first genes of the longest genome where it has no genes under it from the shorter genome<br />
Ariella: Possible child flower genomes...<br />
Ariella: URRO<br />
AliceBlue: or URR<br />
AliceBlue: from first splice point<br />
Ariella: UROO where Dreasimy said and also that same genome but it is retaining the last two OOs from the Left Splint or longest genome and no genes from the shorter genome parent.<br />
AliceBlue: eeep maybe URR doesn't exist?<br />
Dreasimy: ok my confusion is stemming from there is no UR or URR genome? or so I thought :D<br />
Ariella: Alice, remember that the child flower will be 4 genes long...5 (left splint genome length) + 2 (right splint genome length) divided by 2 and rounded up to 4.<br />
Pascalito: it could technically exist, in the special instance of an eliminated gene (we do not consider those yet really)<br />
AliceBlue: ok :-)<br />
Ariella: So RO is lined up under the first OO of UROOO<br />
Ariella: and the first splice point (or visually the vertical line you draw) would be right after UR but in front of the R in the short genome RO.<br />
Ariella: So that could make a possibility of UR-RO<br />
Ariella: Basically then number of possible child genomes is the length of the shortest genome parent + 1.<br />
Ariella: Dreasimy does that help?<br />
Ariella: Which is 2+1=3<br />
Dreasimy: I think, so basically in this case the options for child are UROO, URRO and UROO, because you can get your O's in 2 places?<br />
Ariella: URRO<br />
Ariella: UROO <br />
Ariella: UROO<br />
Ariella: yes :)<br />
Dreasimy: I got you homie :D<br />
Ariella: yo, high five!<br />
AliceBlue: but that is length of shortest plus 2?<br />
AliceBlue: oops forget I said that<br />
AliceBlue: confusing amount with length sry<br />
Ariella: No, that's okay. Please everyone talk out loud as you think it out.<br />
Ariella: I think that is all for tonight unless someone has a question? <br />
AliceBlue: I'll think out the word search and chat you if I still can't see it :-)<br />
Dreasimy: I guess my biggest question is visually how can I guess if my color difference from parent to child is just more intense shades or a different color adding to it<br />
Dreasimy: just deductivly looking at the word search possibilities?<br />
Ariella: Yes, anyone is welcome to chat either Pascalito or myself about this stuff.<br />
Ariella: Dreasimy that's a good point about color shades.<br />
Ariella: We routinely plant new baby flowers beside ones of same shades or near same sizes or we can't tell lol<br />
AliceBlue: My flower got hot pink main petals<br />
Ariella: And one reminder, there could also be the possibility of a subtracted gene or added gene in the example above.<br />
Dreasimy: me too Alice way more pink than the hidden in darkness main petals which look kinda red to me<br />
Ariella: So some more possible child flower genomes could be...<br />
Pascalito: I have also started work on a very long term project: making 125 lilies with all possible colors on middle stamen<br />
Ariella: URO<br />
Ariella: UOO<br />
AliceBlue: why did we want our name on it?<br />
Ariella: URRRO<br />
Ariella: Thanks, Alice, meant to say why that is important<br />
Ariella: UROOO<br />
Ariella: Thinking about how important it can be to track genomes and know the possibilities of your child flower genomes...<br />
AliceBlue: the homework is max fun anyway even if the lectures are hard<br />
Ariella: Someone this week (and many other weeks) asked for advice on the next cross after they used a hybrid flower from someone else.<br />
Ariella: If the beautiful hybrid you got from someone else does not have their name on it as a prefix...say Pascarella Pipsqueak....<br />
Ariella: and you forgot who it was from, how would you make an intelligent cross if you did not know which end of the genome the giant set was on? Or the two magenta lower petal sets that made your orchid glow.<br />
Dreasimy: you'd... throw some mutagens on them and cross your fingers for awesomeness? :D<br />
AliceBlue: LOL<br />
Dreasimy: aka you couldnt make an intelligent cross<br />
Ariella: It is not vanity to put your name as a prefix. There are very good reasons. Then you could chat that originator of the flower, ask what the probably genomes is and go 'hot dog! that double giant set is on the left side'.<br />
AliceBlue: right :-)<br />
AliceBlue: mine got giant, did yours too Dreasimy?<br />
Ariella: lol awesomeness could take awhile in that case Dreasimy, and cost alot of mutagens ;)<br />
Dreasimy: ya Alice :D<br />
AliceBlue: ver cool, I called Mine Alice Blue Sunrise<br />
Dreasimy: I tlooks almost exactly like Hidden in the Darkness but more pinky purply on the main petals and lower petals<br />
Dreasimy: Mine is Hidden in Dreasimy rofl<br />
AliceBlue: hahahah<br />
Ariella: Alice, because yours got a giant then you at least know that the splice occurred AFTER the giant gene set.<br />
Pascalito: giant or not in the homework child is a very good start to eliminate a series of possible splices :)<br />
Ariella: lol Dreasimy<br />
AliceBlue: ok :-)<br />
Pascalito: guess what i just did :-P<br />
Dreasimy: discovered the way to crossbreed papyrus?<br />
Ariella: And now just look at the color and size gene sets to try and interpret your child flower and where that splice might be.<br />
Pascalito: FEEEEEEEERT!<br />
AliceBlue: hehe<br />
Dreasimy: <ducks for cover><br />
Ariella: Again...if you're super curious...and it's a very gorgeous flower...split it and put two splits in the greenhouse and hit it with solvents.<br />
AliceBlue: and beautiful purple upper petal, quite amazing<br />
Pascalito: poor fishiess in it...<br />
Dreasimy: my purple upper looks the same as the hidden in darkness parent :D<br />
Dreasimy: so you musta got an extra shade :D<br />
AliceBlue: no think mine is same too, but the front petals went purplish too<br />
Ariella: possible you could have an added gene that made added color too<br />
AliceBlue: made it look more prple :-)<br />
Dreasimy: Ya know GOO likes handing out prizes... so I want to give a gold star out today<br />
Dreasimy: In honor of your focused attention and academic achievements, AliceBlue you win a Huge Quartz (aka gold star) :D<br />
AliceBlue: hehe ty :-)<br />
Pascalito: for builds, we have to do as if doublimg/eliminating genes is not there, but we still have to keep in mind that about 25% of hybrids have an added gene, and 25% of hybrids have an elimitated gene...<br />
AliceBlue: Question about future lessons. Are we going to actually make mutagens?<br />
AliceBlue: and if so, are there public labs?<br />
Ariella: You can, but it's not practical once you realize how to use them.<br />
AliceBlue: ok so thats not a homework assignment<br />
Dreasimy: last tale I threw mutagens randomly at things and it really didnt help so I probably wont do that again until I learn more :D<br />
Ariella: Garden of Eden's main project we work towards is Mutagenics and understanding genetics in general. We are working towards 50 mutagen labs or more and discovering as many mutagens as we can.<br />
AliceBlue: hey two hours flew by.... time to FEEEEEEERT LOL<br />
Dreasimy: Thank you Ariella and Pascalito so much for another amazing session :D Ill get the log up asap :D<br />
AliceBlue: ty too :-)<br />
Ariella: Using mutagens is about the most powerful tool in this game. And the most fun :) Those mutagens produced in the Eden labs will go out to those who learn to 'build' and turn in builds. Which means anyone can play with mutagens.<br />
Ariella: Thanks y'all :) It's fun to share and see others see the potential in this genetic stuff heehee<br />
<br />
</pre><br />
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|}</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Trading&diff=100527Trading2009-05-24T13:18:58Z<p>MidnightBlue: /* Users trade pages */</p>
<hr />
<div>== microphone ==<br />
For a microphone dedicated to trade type /join bazaar<br />
<br />
Sometimes trades get listed on E! and on P! as well.<br />
<br />
== Trading Guilds ==<br />
[[Guilds/rtrade | rtrade]] A trade only guild chat. Everyone is welcome.<br />
<br />
[[Guilds/SA_Ironworks | SA Ironworks]] We trade metals and related products for almost anything you may have on hand.<br />
<br />
[http://www.landoflyrics.com/thegoods/manifesto.php The Goods] - A non-profit trading organization to facilitate the exchange of all commodity resources.<br />
<br />
== Users trade pages ==<br />
[[User:McArine | Glass trading]], all kinds of glass made on the glaziers bench, thermometers and 7,5k distillation coils.<br />
<br />
[[User:Tumaini | Trading glass]] - glass items made on glazier's bench and thermometers.<br />
<br />
[[User:MidnightBlue|MidnightBlue's alloys]] of all types.<br />
<br />
{{Languages}}</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=User:MidnightBlue&diff=99628User:MidnightBlue2009-05-22T07:35:29Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Alloys ==<br />
I sell alloys. My prices are generally close to base ingredients + 50%. I will always accept trades for materials in the following table:<br />
<br />
=== Standard Pricing ===<br />
{| border=1 cellpadding=5<br />
! Alloy<br />
! Standard Price<br />
|-<br />
| 10 brass<br />
| 13 copper, 2 tin, 10 charcoal<br />
|-<br />
| 10 bronze<br />
| 13 copper, 2 zinc, 10 charcoal<br />
|-<br />
| 10 steel<br />
| 13 iron, 2 tin, 10 charcoal<br />
|-<br />
| 10 pewter<br />
| 9 iron, 5 antimony, 1 brass, 7 charcoal, 2 Royal Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 moon steel<br />
| 8 steel, 4 pewter, 4 brass, 6 charcoal, 2 Hawthorn resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 sun steel<br />
| 8 steel, 4 brass, 4 bronze, 6 charcoal, 2 Umbrella Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 thoth's metal<br />
| 7 steel, 4 moon steel, 4 sun steel, 5 charcoal, 2 Folded Birch resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 water metal<br />
| 8 steel, 4 moon steel, 4 silver, 5 charcoal, 2 Pratyeka Tree resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 metal blue<br />
| 5 steel, 4 thoth's metal, 4 water metal, 3 tungsten, 4 charcoal, 2 Cerulean Blue resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 Octec's alloy<br />
| 10 steel, 8 thoth's metal, 8 water metal, 6 tungsten, 8 charcoal, 4 Oil Palm resin<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Simplified Pricing ===<br />
Where I have enough raw materials, I will also sell alloys in simplified pricing, where the alloys and materials are given a single-number value. These prices ''will'' change over time and depend upon my having reasonable amounts of each raw material.<br />
<br />
{| style="background-color:#efdfbd;" width=100%<br />
|- valign=top<br />
|<br />
{| cellpadding=5 border=1<br />
! Alloy !! Price<br />
|-<br />
| brass || 12<br />
|-<br />
| bronze || 12<br />
|-<br />
| steel || 12<br />
|-<br />
| pewter || 45<br />
|-<br />
| moon steel || 35<br />
|-<br />
| sun steel || 30<br />
|-<br />
| thoth's metal || 35<br />
|-<br />
| water metal || 30<br />
|-<br />
| metal blue || 40<br />
|-<br />
| Octec's alloy || 75<br />
|}<br />
|<br />
{| cellpadding=5 border=1<br />
! Material !! Value<br />
|-<br />
| iron || 5<br />
|-<br />
| copper || 5<br />
|-<br />
| tin || 10<br />
|-<br />
| zinc || 10<br />
|-<br />
| antimony || 50<br />
|-<br />
| tungsten || 20<br />
|-<br />
| charcoal || 2<br />
|}<br />
|}</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=User:MidnightBlue&diff=99627User:MidnightBlue2009-05-22T07:27:53Z<p>MidnightBlue: Simplified pricing</p>
<hr />
<div>== Alloys ==<br />
I sell alloys. My prices are generally close to base ingredients + 50%. I will always accept trades for materials in the following table:<br />
<br />
=== Standard Pricing ===<br />
{| border=1 cellpadding=5<br />
! Alloy<br />
! Standard Price<br />
|-<br />
| 10 brass<br />
| 13 copper, 2 tin, 10 charcoal<br />
|-<br />
| 10 bronze<br />
| 13 copper, 2 zinc, 10 charcoal<br />
|-<br />
| 10 steel<br />
| 13 iron, 2 tin, 10 charcoal<br />
|-<br />
| 10 pewter<br />
| 9 iron, 5 antimony, 1 brass, 7 charcoal, 2 Royal Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 moon steel<br />
| 8 steel, 4 pewter, 4 brass, 6 charcoal, 2 Hawthorn resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 sun steel<br />
| 8 steel, 4 brass, 4 bronze, 6 charcoal, 2 Umbrella Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 thoth's metal<br />
| 7 steel, 4 moon steel, 4 sun steel, 5 charcoal, 2 Folded Birch resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 water metal<br />
| 8 steel, 4 moon steel, 4 silver, 5 charcoal, 2 Pratyeka Tree resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 metal blue<br />
| 5 steel, 4 thoth's metal, 4 water metal, 3 tungsten, 4 charcoal, 2 Cerulean Blue resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 Octec's alloy<br />
| 10 steel, 8 thoth's metal, 8 water metal, 6 tungsten, 8 charcoal, 4 Oil Palm resin<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Simplified Pricing ===<br />
Where I have enough raw materials, I will also sell alloys in simplified pricing, where the alloys and materials are given a single-number value. These prices ''will'' change over time and depend upon my having reasonable amounts of each raw material.<br />
<br />
{| style="background-color:#efdfbd;" width=100%<br />
|- valign=top<br />
|<br />
{| cellpadding=5 border=1<br />
! Alloy !! Price<br />
|-<br />
| brass || 12<br />
|-<br />
| bronze || 12<br />
|-<br />
| steel || 12<br />
|-<br />
| pewter || 45<br />
|-<br />
| moon steel || 35<br />
|-<br />
| sun steel || 30<br />
|-<br />
| thoth's metal || 35<br />
|-<br />
| water metal || 30<br />
|-<br />
| metal blue || 40<br />
|-<br />
| Octec's alloy || 75<br />
|}<br />
|<br />
{| cellpadding=5 border=1<br />
! Material !! Value<br />
|-<br />
| iron || 5<br />
|-<br />
| copper || 5<br />
|-<br />
| tin || 10<br />
|-<br />
| zinc || 10<br />
|-<br />
| antimony || 50<br />
|-<br />
| tungsten || 20<br />
|-<br />
| charcoal || 2<br />
|-<br />
| raeli resins || 30<br />
|}<br />
|}</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=User:MidnightBlue&diff=99616User:MidnightBlue2009-05-22T06:14:35Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Alloys ==<br />
I sell alloys. My prices are generally close to ingredients + 50%, except Octec's Alloy.<br />
<br />
{| border=1 cellpadding=5<br />
! Alloy<br />
! Basic Price<br />
|-<br />
| 10 brass<br />
| 13 copper, 2 tin, 10 charcoal, 2 Stout Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 bronze<br />
| 13 copper, 2 zinc, 10 charcoal, 2 Fern Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 steel<br />
| 13 iron, 2 tin, 10 charcoal, 2 Towering Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 pewter<br />
| 9 iron, 5 antimony, 1 brass, 7 charcoal, 2 Royal Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 moon steel<br />
| 8 steel, 4 pewter, 4 brass, 6 charcoal, 2 Hawthorn resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 sun steel<br />
| 8 steel, 4 brass, 4 bronze, 6 charcoal, 2 Umbrella Palm resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 thoth's metal<br />
| 7 steel, 4 moon steel, 4 sun steel, 5 charcoal, 2 Folded Birch resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 water metal<br />
| 8 steel, 4 moon steel, 4 silver, 5 charcoal, 2 Pratyeka Tree resin<br />
|-<br />
| 10 metal blue<br />
| 5 steel, 4 thoth's metal, 4 water metal, 3 tungsten, 4 charcoal, 2 Cerulean Blue resin<br />
|}</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Google_Maps&diff=96561Google Maps2009-05-13T06:20:04Z<p>MidnightBlue: Undo revision 96559 by MidnightBlue (Talk)</p>
<hr />
<div><googlemap lat="0" lon="0" zoom="2" controls="medium" type="game" scrollwheel="zoom" icon="http://labs.google.com/ridefinder/images/mm_20_red.png"><br />
<br />
(T) 1000, 1000, Test marker at 1000 1000<br />
(H) 4361, -668, Home<br />
Here is [[User:Hatnofret | Hatnofret's Place]]<br />
0, 0<br />
/Info\<br />
The famous center point of the map. Look up the location and find the marker.<br />
/Usage\<br />
The place where we used to find Falcons for the Test of the Safari.<br />
6#FF770077 (#BB668800)<br />
-1000, 1000<br />
-1000, -1000<br />
1000, -1000<br />
1000, 1000<br />
6#FF007777 (#BB668800)<br />
1500, 1000<br />
1000, 1500<br />
1500, 2000<br />
2000, 1500<br />
</googlemap><br />
<br />
== Tag Attributes ==<br />
<br />
This extension defines a <nowiki><googlemap></nowiki> tag. Legal attributes are:<br />
<br />
* <code>width</code> of the map (in pixels; defaults to 450)<br />
* <code>height</code> of the map (in pixels; defaults to 300)<br />
* <code>lat</code> (the center latitude on the map, defaults to my old dorm room :-)<br />
* <code>lon</code> (the center longitude on the map)<br />
* <code>zoom</code> (the zoom level; 0 is the furthest away, 17 is the closest in, maximum for game maps is 6)<br />
* <code>type</code> (legal values are ''game'' (for atitd maps), ''normal'' (or, equivalently, ''map''), ''terrain'' ('''new in 0.9.0'''), ''hybrid'', and ''satellite''; defaults to ''game'')<br />
* <code>controls</code> (''small'' creates +/- zoom buttons, ''medium'' has zoom buttons and pan buttons, ''large'' has pan buttons with a sliding scale for zoom, and ''none'' has no buttons)<br />
* <code>selector</code> (show the map/hybrid/satellite selector? Legal values are ''yes'' and ''no'' (default).)<br />
* <code>scale</code> (show the distance scale? Legal values are ''yes'' and ''no'' (default).)<br />
* <code>overview</code> (show the inset navigation map? Legal values are ''yes'' and ''no'' (default).)<br />
* <code>icons</code> (URL template for custom markers, with "{label}" where the name of the icon will be inserted; defaults to "<nowiki>http://maps.google.com/mapfiles/marker{label}.png</nowiki>")<br />
* <code>icon</code> (URL for markers without an icon specified; defaults to http://maps.google.com/mapfiles/marker.png)<br />
* <code>doubleclick</code> (what to do when the user double-clicks? legal values are ''recenter'' (default) and ''zoom'')<br />
* <code>zoomstyle</code> (legal values are ''fast'' and ''smooth'' (default), also known as continuous zooming; only works in some browsers)<br />
* <code>stroke</code> (width of paths, in pixels)<br />
* <code>scrollwheel</code> (define scroll wheel behavior; ''nothing'' or ''zoom'' (default))<br />
<br />
All attributes are optional.<br />
<br />
== A note about icons ==<br />
<br />
You can host your own collection of icons on your server, but note that they'll have the same anchor points as Google's default icon. Check out [http://mapki.com/wiki/Icon_Image_Sets Mapki's collection of icon images] for a bunch of icons you can use. To use your icons, add an icon attribute to your googlemap-tags like this<br />
<br />
<nowiki><googlemap lat="42.711618" lon="-73.205112" zoom="2" controls="small" <br />
icon="http://myserver.com/standardmarker.png" <br />
icons="http://myserver.com/markers/marker{label}.png"></nowiki><br />
<br />
[[User:Mayanah|Mayanah]] has some instructions for using an alternate set of icons [[User:Mayanah/map|here]] and a set of [[User:Mayanah/map#Mine_Specific|Mine Specific]] icons on the same page.<br />
<br />
The [[Dowsing Map]] page has a set of icons for labeling metal veins.<br />
<br />
== Markers ==<br />
<br />
In the content of the tag, you can define one marker per line. Each line may or may not start with an icon name in parentheses; unless you set the "icons" attribute, legal icon names are the upper-case letters of the alphabet. The line should then have the latitude, then a comma, optionally a space, then the longitude, then a comma, then a label for the point. The label can include wiki mark-up (and commas). These are all legal:<br />
<br />
<nowiki><googlemap lat="42.711618" lon="-73.205112" zoom="2" controls="small"><br />
42.711618,-73.205112,here goes the title<br />
42.711618, -73.205112, here goes the title, it can contains commas too but not wiki markup<br />
(S) 42.711618, -73.205112, here goes the title<br />
first line of the caption<br />
Second line of the caption, not that the caption can contain wiki markup like [[Resources]]<br />
</googlemap></nowiki><br />
<br />
== Paths ==<br />
<br />
To connect multiple points with a colored path, prefix them with a line that begins with the color in RGB hex format., e.g.<br />
<br />
<nowiki><br />
6#FF330000<br />
42.711618,-73.205112<br />
42.714779,-73.204544<br />
</nowiki><br />
<br />
That will connect the two points with a colored line. Any points not on a line should appear before all points on lines. For example:<br />
<br />
42.711618, -73.25112, this point is not on a line<br />
43.224024, -70.28301, neither is this one<br />
6#FF770077<br />
42.202452, -72.83101, this is on a line of color #77077<br />
45.214425, -72.48114, so is this<br />
6#FF668800<br />
42.201324, -70.95811, this starts a second line<br />
43.404142, -73.44514, this is also on the second line<br />
<br />
Any text on the same line as, but appearing after, the color specification will be ignored.<br />
<br />
== Areas ==<br />
<br />
Areas are enclosed paths with a colored filling. The syntax is just like a path, except that the interior color should be specified in parentheses after the path color, like this:<br />
<br />
6#770077 (#BB668800)<br />
<br />
== Color Specification ==<br />
<br />
The color specification includes '''opacity''' and '''stroke''' information, e.g.<br />
<br />
<nowiki>6#FF330000</nowiki><br />
<br />
The ''6'' means that the path will be 6 pixels wide. The first two hex digits specify the opacity from #00 (transparent) to #FF (opaque). The final 6 hex digits are a "web color", i.e. #RRGGBB. In the example above the opacity is #FF and the color is #330000.<br />
<br />
Similarly for areas, the interior color should be 8 digits instead of 6; the first two digits define the opacity, e.g.<br />
<br />
6#770077 (#BB668800)<br />
<br />
== Tabbed Info Balloons ==<br />
<br />
Each tab should have a plain-text title surrounded by inward-leaning slashes (like /this\) followed by a caption that can include wiki mark-up. Tabs will be attached to the previous marker. Example:<br />
<br />
<nowiki><br />
45.214425, -72.48114<br />
/Info\<br />
This is where Ulysses Grant is buried<br />
/Directions\<br />
[http://maps.google.com Click here] to get driving directions<br />
Or just drive in a random direction<br />
</nowiki><br />
<br />
That will create a point whose info balloon has two tabs. Note that you can put as much or as little space as you'd like between the title and the caption to make the syntax more readable.<br />
<br />
If a point has a regular caption ''and'' tabbed captions, clicking the point will only show the tabbed captions.<br />
<br />
==Good Default Settings==<br />
===All of Egypt, No Borders===<br />
<googlemap lat=1010 lon=0 zoom=1 width=256 height=512><br />
</googlemap><br />
===All of Egypt, Square===<br />
<googlemap lat=1010 lon=0 zoom=1 width=512 height=512><br />
</googlemap><br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
And a real map of egypt:<br />
<googlemap lat="29.980624" lon="31.134653" zoom="14" controls="medium" type="hybrid" selector="yes"><br />
29.980624, 31.134653, PYRAMIDS<br />
</googlemap></div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Google_Maps&diff=96559Google Maps2009-05-13T06:19:05Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
<hr />
<div><googlemap lat="0" lon="0" zoom="2" controls="medium" type="game" scrollwheel="zoom" icon="http://labs.google.com/ridefinder/images/mm_20_red.png"><br />
<br />
(T) 1000, 1000, Test marker at 1000 1000<br />
(H) 4361, -668, Home<br />
Here is [[User:Hatnofret | Hatnofret's Place]]<br />
0, 0<br />
/Info\<br />
The famous center point of the map. Look up the location and find the marker.<br />
/Usage\<br />
The place where we used to find Falcons for the Test of the Safari.<br />
6#FF770077 (#BB668800)<br />
-1000, 1000<br />
-1000, -1000<br />
1000, -1000<br />
1000, 1000<br />
6#FF007777 (#BB668800)<br />
1500, 1000<br />
1000, 1500<br />
1500, 2000<br />
2000, 1500<br />
</googlemap><br />
<br />
== Tag Attributes ==<br />
<br />
This extension defines a <nowiki><googlemap></nowiki> tag. Legal attributes are:<br />
<br />
* <code>width</code> of the map (in pixels; defaults to 450)<br />
* <code>height</code> of the map (in pixels; defaults to 300)<br />
* <code>lat</code> (the center latitude on the map, defaults to my old dorm room :-)<br />
* <code>lon</code> (the center longitude on the map)<br />
* <code>zoom</code> (the zoom level; 0 is the furthest away, 17 is the closest in, maximum for game maps is 6)<br />
* <code>type</code> (legal values are ''game'' (for atitd maps), ''normal'' (or, equivalently, ''map''), ''terrain'' ('''new in 0.9.0'''), ''hybrid'', and ''satellite''; defaults to ''game'')<br />
* <code>controls</code> (''small'' creates +/- zoom buttons, ''medium'' has zoom buttons and pan buttons, ''large'' has pan buttons with a sliding scale for zoom, and ''none'' has no buttons)<br />
* <code>selector</code> (show the map/hybrid/satellite selector? Legal values are ''yes'' and ''no'' (default).)<br />
* <code>scale</code> (show the distance scale? Legal values are ''yes'' and ''no'' (default).)<br />
* <code>overview</code> (show the inset navigation map? Legal values are ''yes'' and ''no'' (default).)<br />
* <code>icons</code> (URL template for custom markers, with "{label}" where the name of the icon will be inserted; defaults to "<nowiki>http://maps.google.com/mapfiles/marker{label}.png</nowiki>")<br />
* <code>icon</code> (URL for markers without an icon specified; defaults to http://maps.google.com/mapfiles/marker.png)<br />
* <code>doubleclick</code> (what to do when the user double-clicks? legal values are ''recenter'' (default) and ''zoom'')<br />
* <code>zoomstyle</code> (legal values are ''fast'' and ''smooth'' (default), also known as continuous zooming; only works in some browsers)<br />
* <code>stroke</code> (width of paths, in pixels)<br />
* <code>scrollwheel</code> (define scroll wheel behavior; ''nothing'' or ''zoom'' (default))<br />
<br />
All attributes are optional.<br />
<br />
== A note about icons ==<br />
<br />
You can host your own collection of icons on your server, but note that they'll have the same anchor points as Google's default icon. Check out [http://mapki.com/wiki/Icon_Image_Sets Mapki's collection of icon images] for a bunch of icons you can use. To use your icons, add an icon attribute to your googlemap-tags like this<br />
<br />
<nowiki><googlemap lat="42.711618" lon="-73.205112" zoom="2" controls="small" <br />
icon="http://myserver.com/standardmarker.png" <br />
icons="http://myserver.com/markers/marker{label}.png"></nowiki><br />
<br />
[[User:Mayanah|Mayanah]] has some instructions for using an alternate set of icons [[User:Mayanah/map|here]] and a set of [[User:Mayanah/map#Mine_Specific|Mine Specific]] icons on the same page.<br />
<br />
The [[Dowsing Map]] page has a set of icons for labeling metal veins.<br />
<br />
== Markers ==<br />
<br />
In the content of the tag, you can define one marker per line. Each line may or may not start with an icon name in parentheses; unless you set the "icons" attribute, legal icon names are the upper-case letters of the alphabet. The line should then have the latitude, then a comma, optionally a space, then the longitude, then a comma, then a label for the point. The label can include wiki mark-up (and commas). These are all legal:<br />
<br />
<nowiki><googlemap lat="42.711618" lon="-73.205112" zoom="2" controls="small"><br />
42.711618,-73.205112,here goes the title<br />
42.711618, -73.205112, here goes the title, it can contains commas too but not wiki markup<br />
(S) 42.711618, -73.205112, here goes the title<br />
first line of the caption<br />
Second line of the caption, not that the caption can contain wiki markup like [[Resources]]<br />
</googlemap></nowiki><br />
<br />
== Paths ==<br />
<br />
To connect multiple points with a colored path, prefix them with a line that begins with the color in RGB hex format., e.g.<br />
<br />
<nowiki><br />
6#FF330000<br />
42.711618,-73.205112<br />
42.714779,-73.204544<br />
</nowiki><br />
<br />
That will connect the two points with a colored line. Any points not on a line should appear before all points on lines. For example:<br />
<br />
42.711618, -73.25112, this point is not on a line<br />
43.224024, -70.28301, neither is this one<br />
6#FF770077<br />
42.202452, -72.83101, this is on a line of color #77077<br />
45.214425, -72.48114, so is this<br />
6#FF668800<br />
42.201324, -70.95811, this starts a second line<br />
43.404142, -73.44514, this is also on the second line<br />
<br />
Any text on the same line as, but appearing after, the color specification will be ignored.<br />
<br />
== Areas ==<br />
<br />
Areas are enclosed paths with a colored filling. The syntax is just like a path, except that the interior color should be specified in parentheses after the path color, like this:<br />
<br />
6#770077 (#BB668800)<br />
<br />
== Color Specification ==<br />
<br />
The color specification includes '''opacity''' and '''stroke''' information, e.g.<br />
<br />
<nowiki>6#FF330000</nowiki><br />
<br />
The ''6'' means that the path will be 6 pixels wide. The first two hex digits specify the opacity from #00 (transparent) to #FF (opaque). The final 6 hex digits are a "web color", i.e. #RRGGBB. In the example above the opacity is #FF and the color is #330000.<br />
<br />
Similarly for areas, the interior color should be 8 digits instead of 6; the first two digits define the opacity, e.g.<br />
<br />
6#770077 (#BB668800)<br />
<br />
== Tabbed Info Balloons ==<br />
<br />
Each tab should have a plain-text title surrounded by inward-leaning slashes (like /this\) followed by a caption that can include wiki mark-up. Tabs will be attached to the previous marker. Example:<br />
<br />
<nowiki><br />
45.214425, -72.48114<br />
/Info\<br />
This is where Ulysses Grant is buried<br />
/Directions\<br />
[http://maps.google.com Click here] to get driving directions<br />
Or just drive in a random direction<br />
</nowiki><br />
<br />
That will create a point whose info balloon has two tabs. Note that you can put as much or as little space as you'd like between the title and the caption to make the syntax more readable.<br />
<br />
If a point has a regular caption ''and'' tabbed captions, clicking the point will only show the tabbed captions.<br />
<br />
==Good Default Settings==<br />
<googlemap lat=0 lon=0 zoom=1 width=256 height=512><br />
</googlemap><br />
<br />
===All of Egypt, Square===<br />
<googlemap lat=1010 lon=0 zoom=1 width=512 height=512><br />
</googlemap><br />
<br />
----<br />
<br />
And a real map of egypt:<br />
<googlemap lat="29.980624" lon="31.134653" zoom="14" controls="medium" type="hybrid" selector="yes"><br />
29.980624, 31.134653, PYRAMIDS<br />
</googlemap></div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=User:MidnightBlue&diff=96558User:MidnightBlue2009-05-13T06:07:27Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
<hr />
<div>===All of Egypt, No Borders===<br />
<googlemap lat=1024 lon=0 zoom=2 width=512 height=1024><br />
</googlemap></div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=User:MidnightBlue&diff=96557User:MidnightBlue2009-05-13T06:07:13Z<p>MidnightBlue: New page: ===All of Egypt, No Borders=== <googlemap lat=1024 lon=0 zoom=1 width=512 height=1024> </googlemap></p>
<hr />
<div>===All of Egypt, No Borders===<br />
<googlemap lat=1024 lon=0 zoom=1 width=512 height=1024><br />
</googlemap></div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Dowsing_Guide&diff=43535Dowsing Guide2009-02-02T07:29:23Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Overview ==<br />
To dowse, you '''must''' know the [[Dowsing]] tech and have a [[Dowsing Rod]] in your inventory. This gives you a new action icon in upper portion of the screen.<br />
<br />
Dowsing results are reported in your main chat if you have the "Utility -> Interface -> Use console..." option checked. If you have your chats minimized the result will not be posted in the main chat.<br />
<br />
== Stat Timers ==<br />
<br />
Using the dowsing skill sets off the FOCUS timer.<br />
<br />
== Perception Table ==<br />
The following table indicates which ore are recognizable at what perception level. Remember that you can spot some ore but not recognize it, in which case it will be the ore with the immediately higher perception level required. The highest perception required to dowse any metal is 28. ( See [[Talk:Dowsing Guide|Dowsing Discussion Page]]. )<br />
<br />
{| border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"<br />
!Perception<br />
!Ore<br />
!Perception<br />
!Ore<br />
|-<br />
|0<br />
|Copper<br />
|15<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|1<br />
|Iron<br />
|16<br />
|Magnesium<br />
|-<br />
|2<br />
|<br />
|17<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|3<br />
|Tin<br />
|18<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|4<br />
|<br />
|19<br />
|Silver<br />
|-<br />
|5<br />
|Aluminum<br />
|20<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|6<br />
|Zinc<br />
|21<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|7<br />
|Lead<br />
|22<br />
|Tungsten?<br />
|-<br />
|8<br />
|<br />
|23<br />
|Strontium?<br />
|-<br />
|9<br />
|Titanium?<br />
|24<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|10<br />
|<br />
|25<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|11<br />
|<br />
|26<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|12<br />
|<br />
|27<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|13<br />
|<br />
|28<br />
|Platinum?<br />
|-<br />
|14<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Notes ===<br />
* Copper ore identifies as such even with a Perception of 0.<br />
* Iron ore identifies as such with a perception of 1, unrecognizable at 0.<br />
* Tin Ore identifies as Unrecognized with perception of 2.<br />
* Zinc Ore identifies as such with a perception of 6.<br />
* Lead ore identifies as such with a perception of 7, unrecognizable at 6.<br />
* Titanium is unrecognizable at 8.<br />
* Aluminum ore identifies as such with a perception of 4<br />
* Magnesium ore identifies as such with a perception of 16, unrecognizable at 15.<br />
* Silver identifies as unrecognizable with a perception of 18.<br />
* With a perception of at least 22 (may be less) when near a vein of Tungsten or Magnesium it will state you detect a vein of Magensium Ore nearby (or tungsten).<br />
* Strontium ore identifies as such with a perception of 23. Identify as Sand at 15.<br />
* Platinum ore identifies as such with a perception of 32 (Sand at 22).<br />
<br />
== Dowsing Maps ==<br />
* [[User:fadenra|fadenra]]'s Map<br />
* [http://sokar.cwru.edu/atitd/mining.php Dachannien's Mining Map]<br />
* [[Shabbat Ab Dowsing Party]]<br />
* [[Dowsing Map]] moved from [[Atlas]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Guides]]</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Dowsing_Guide&diff=43498Dowsing Guide2009-02-02T05:13:26Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
<hr />
<div>== Overview ==<br />
To dowse, you '''must''' know the [[Dowsing]] tech and have a [[Dowsing Rod]] in your inventory. This gives you a new action icon in upper portion of the screen.<br />
<br />
Dowsing results are reported in your main chat if you have the "Utility -> Interface -> Use console..." option checked. If you have your chats minimized the result will not be posted in the main chat.<br />
<br />
== Stat Timers ==<br />
<br />
Using the dowsing skill sets off the FOCUS timer.<br />
<br />
== Perception Table ==<br />
The following table indicates which ore are recognizable at what perception level. Remember that you can spot some ore but not recognize it, in which case it will be the ore with the immediately higher perception level required. The highest perception required to dowse any metal is 28. ( See [[Talk:Dowsing Guide|Dowsing Discussion Page]]. )<br />
<br />
{| border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"<br />
!Perception<br />
!Ore<br />
!Perception<br />
!Ore<br />
|-<br />
|0<br />
|Copper<br />
|15<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|1<br />
|Iron<br />
|16<br />
|Magnesium<br />
|-<br />
|2<br />
|<br />
|17<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|3<br />
|Tin<br />
|18<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|4<br />
|Aluminum<br />
|19<br />
|Silver<br />
|-<br />
|5<br />
|<br />
|20<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|6<br />
|Zinc<br />
|21<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|7<br />
|Lead<br />
|22<br />
|Tungsten?<br />
|-<br />
|8<br />
|<br />
|23<br />
|Strontium?<br />
|-<br />
|9<br />
|Titanium?<br />
|24<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|10<br />
|<br />
|25<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|11<br />
|<br />
|26<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|12<br />
|<br />
|27<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|13<br />
|<br />
|28<br />
|Platinum?<br />
|-<br />
|14<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Notes ===<br />
* Copper ore identifies as such even with a Perception of 0.<br />
* Iron ore identifies as such with a perception of 1, unrecognizable at 0.<br />
* Tin Ore identifies as Unrecognized with perception of 2.<br />
* Zinc Ore identifies as such with a perception of 6.<br />
* Lead ore identifies as such with a perception of 7, unrecognizable at 6.<br />
* Titanium is unrecognizable at 8.<br />
* Aluminum ore identifies as such with a perception of 4<br />
* Magnesium ore identifies as such with a perception of 16, unrecognizable at 15.<br />
* Silver identifies as unrecognizable with a perception of 18.<br />
* With a perception of at least 22 (may be less) when near a vein of Tungsten or Magnesium it will state you detect a vein of Magensium Ore nearby (or tungsten).<br />
* Strontium ore identifies as such with a perception of 23. Identify as Sand at 15.<br />
* Platinum ore identifies as such with a perception of 32 (Sand at 22).<br />
<br />
== Dowsing Maps ==<br />
* [[User:fadenra|fadenra]]'s Map<br />
* [http://sokar.cwru.edu/atitd/mining.php Dachannien's Mining Map]<br />
* [[Shabbat Ab Dowsing Party]]<br />
* [[Dowsing Map]] moved from [[Atlas]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Guides]]</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Small_Barrel&diff=41847Small Barrel2009-01-31T04:23:26Z<p>MidnightBlue: </p>
<hr />
<div>To make a Small Barrel:<br />
<br />
* [[Cooperage]] skill<br />
* 100 [[Boards]]<br />
* 2 [[Copper Strap | Copper Straps]]<br />
* Wood to run the [[Barrel Vice]]. (The amount is variable, but 75 to 100 wood per barrel is a good rule of thumb.)</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Dowsing_Guide&diff=39373Dowsing Guide2009-01-27T12:53:59Z<p>MidnightBlue: Aluminum</p>
<hr />
<div>== Overview ==<br />
To dowse, you '''must''' know the [[Dowsing]] tech and have a [[Dowsing Rod]] in your inventory. This gives you a new action icon in upper portion of the screen.<br />
<br />
Dowsing results are reported in your main chat if you have the "Utility -> Interface -> Use console..." option checked. If you have your chats minimized the result will not be posted in the main chat.<br />
<br />
== Stat Timers ==<br />
<br />
Using the dowsing skill sets off the FOCUS timer.<br />
<br />
== Perception Table ==<br />
The following table indicates which ore are recognizable at what perception level. Remember that you can spot some ore but not recognize it, in which case it will be the ore with the immediately higher perception level required. The highest perception required to dowse any metal is 28. ( See [[Talk:Dowsing Guide|Dowsing Discussion Page]]. )<br />
<br />
{| border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"<br />
!Perception<br />
!Ore<br />
!Perception<br />
!Ore<br />
|-<br />
|0<br />
|Copper<br />
|15<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|1<br />
|Iron<br />
|16<br />
|Magnesium<br />
|-<br />
|2<br />
|<br />
|17<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|3<br />
|Tin<br />
|18<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|4<br />
|Aluminum<br />
|19<br />
|Silver<br />
|-<br />
|5<br />
|<br />
|20<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|6<br />
|Zinc<br />
|21<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|7<br />
|Lead<br />
|22<br />
|Tungsten?<br />
|-<br />
|8<br />
|<br />
|23<br />
|Strontium?<br />
|-<br />
|9<br />
|<br />
|24<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|10<br />
|<br />
|25<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|11<br />
|<br />
|26<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|12<br />
|<br />
|27<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|13<br />
|<br />
|28<br />
|Platinum?<br />
|-<br />
|14<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Notes ===<br />
* Copper ore identifies as such even with a Perception of 0.<br />
* Iron ore identifies as such with a perception of 1, unrecognizable at 0.<br />
* Tin Ore identifies as Unrecognized with perception of 2.<br />
* Zinc Ore identifies as such with a perception of 6.<br />
* Lead ore identifies as such with a perception of 7, unrecognizable at 6.<br />
* Titanium is unrecognizable at 8.<br />
* Aluminum ore identifies as such with a perception of 12<br />
* Magnesium ore identifies as such with a perception of 16, unrecognizable at 15.<br />
* Silver identifies as unrecognizable with a perception of 18.<br />
* With a perception of at least 22 (may be less) when near a vein of Tungsten or Magnesium it will state you detect a vein of Magensium Ore nearby (or tungsten).<br />
* Strontium ore identifies as such with a perception of 23. Identify as Sand at 15.<br />
* Platinum ore identifies as such with a perception of 32 (Sand at 22).<br />
<br />
== Dowsing Maps ==<br />
* [[User:fadenra|fadenra]]'s Map<br />
* [http://sokar.cwru.edu/atitd/mining.php Dachannien's Mining Map]<br />
* [[Shabbat Ab Dowsing Party]]<br />
* [[Dowsing Map]] moved from [[Atlas]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Guides]]</div>MidnightBluehttp://www.atitd.org/wiki/t4w/index.php?title=Dowsing_Guide&diff=39372Dowsing Guide2009-01-27T12:52:48Z<p>MidnightBlue: Aluminum</p>
<hr />
<div>== Overview ==<br />
To dowse, you '''must''' know the [[Dowsing]] tech and have a [[Dowsing Rod]] in your inventory. This gives you a new action icon in upper portion of the screen.<br />
<br />
Dowsing results are reported in your main chat if you have the "Utility -> Interface -> Use console..." option checked. If you have your chats minimized the result will not be posted in the main chat.<br />
<br />
== Stat Timers ==<br />
<br />
Using the dowsing skill sets off the FOCUS timer.<br />
<br />
== Perception Table ==<br />
The following table indicates which ore are recognizable at what perception level. Remember that you can spot some ore but not recognize it, in which case it will be the ore with the immediately higher perception level required. The highest perception required to dowse any metal is 28. ( See [[Talk:Dowsing Guide|Dowsing Discussion Page]]. )<br />
<br />
{| border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"<br />
!Perception<br />
!Ore<br />
!Perception<br />
!Ore<br />
|-<br />
|0<br />
|Copper<br />
|15<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|1<br />
|Iron<br />
|16<br />
|Magnesium<br />
|-<br />
|2<br />
|<br />
|17<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|3<br />
|Tin<br />
|18<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|4<br />
|Aluminum<br />
|19<br />
|Silver<br />
|-<br />
|5<br />
|<br />
|20<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|6<br />
|Zinc<br />
|21<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|7<br />
|Lead<br />
|22<br />
|Tungsten?<br />
|-<br />
|8<br />
|<br />
|23<br />
|Strontium?<br />
|-<br />
|9<br />
|<br />
|24<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|10<br />
|<br />
|25<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|11<br />
|<br />
|26<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|27<br />
|<br />
|-<br />
|13<br />
|<br />
|28<br />
|Platinum?<br />
|-<br />
|14<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|<br />
|}<br />
<br />
=== Notes ===<br />
* Copper ore identifies as such even with a Perception of 0.<br />
* Iron ore identifies as such with a perception of 1, unrecognizable at 0.<br />
* Tin Ore identifies as Unrecognized with perception of 2.<br />
* Zinc Ore identifies as such with a perception of 6.<br />
* Lead ore identifies as such with a perception of 7, unrecognizable at 6.<br />
* Titanium is unrecognizable at 8.<br />
* Aluminum ore identifies as such with a perception of 12<br />
* Magnesium ore identifies as such with a perception of 16, unrecognizable at 15.<br />
* Silver identifies as unrecognizable with a perception of 18.<br />
* With a perception of at least 22 (may be less) when near a vein of Tungsten or Magnesium it will state you detect a vein of Magensium Ore nearby (or tungsten).<br />
* Strontium ore identifies as such with a perception of 23. Identify as Sand at 15.<br />
* Platinum ore identifies as such with a perception of 32 (Sand at 22).<br />
<br />
== Dowsing Maps ==<br />
* [[User:fadenra|fadenra]]'s Map<br />
* [http://sokar.cwru.edu/atitd/mining.php Dachannien's Mining Map]<br />
* [[Shabbat Ab Dowsing Party]]<br />
* [[Dowsing Map]] moved from [[Atlas]]<br />
<br />
[[Category:Guides]]</div>MidnightBlue