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This is a very yard sensitive vine.  The tends are decent until shimmer shows up.  If the yard you put it on has a lot of shimmers, the vine won't reach it's potential.  If you're going to use this vine for tannin spirits, I would suggest planting 10 yards and just using the best 5, or experiment a little to find out which of your yards work for the vine.  I actually used the suggested tends below for the barreled results on this page.  Even with the -12 skin on shimmer, 5 of the 10 yards came out very well.  I'm currently testing 10 new yards using no more than 2 of those -12 skins per yards.
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This is a very yard sensitive vine.  The tends are decent until shimmer shows up.  If the yard you put it on has a lot of shimmers, the vine won't reach it's potential.  If you're going to use this vine for tannin spirits, I would suggest planting 10 yards and just using the best 5, or experiment a little to find out which of your yards work for the vine.  I actually used the suggested tends below for the barreled results on this page.  Even with the -12 skin on shimmer, 5 of the 10 yards came out very well.  I also tested 10 new yards using no more than 2 of those -12 skins per yard, results at the bottom of the page.  Results suggest that the original suggested tends still work better.  I've merely shown you what's possible here with the right yards.
  
 
== Tannin Testing high skin==
 
== Tannin Testing high skin==
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== Suggested Tends for Tedra's #429 ==
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== Suggested Tends for Tedra's Tannin ==
 
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Alternatedly use two SV on the first two shimmers to stock up some color, then switch to TV or MG for anymore shimmers, but if you get too many more, you won't reach a decent skin.
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Alternately use two SV on the first two shimmers to stock up some color, then switch to TV or MG for anymore shimmers, but if you get too many more, you won't reach a decent skin.
  
 
== Tedra's Tannin to full harvest ==
 
== Tedra's Tannin to full harvest ==
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! Attribute !! Abbreviation !! Notes
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| '''Acid''' ||align="center"| A || Determines how long flavours remain while bottled. Lower acid wines lose their flavour the more they age.  The exact formula for determining how long wine will last is unknown.
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| '''Color''' ||align="center"| C || In combination with the vine's genetics (see below), determines the hue of wine made from these grapes (though again, the exact role is not clear).
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| '''Grapes''' ||align="center"| G || Each cutting type will have a set number of starting grapes, each time it is planted. If the grape count ever reaches 0, the vine will die.
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| '''Quality''' ||align="center"| Q || Determines the potential quality of wines made from these grapes. Higher quality wines will reveal more flavors and retain these flavors longer.
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| '''Skin''' ||align="center"| K || May be involved in the production of Tannin in the barrel (see below).
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| '''Sugar''' ||align="center"| S || Sugar is converted to alcohol in the barrel.
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| '''Vigor''' ||align="center"| V || How much "life" is left in the vine. If Vigor ever reaches 0, the vine will die.
 
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Latest revision as of 00:18, 28 September 2009

Phenotype (ACCKKKS)

Vine Starting Grape No. Hue
Tedra's Tannin 12 Red

This is a very yard sensitive vine. The tends are decent until shimmer shows up. If the yard you put it on has a lot of shimmers, the vine won't reach it's potential. If you're going to use this vine for tannin spirits, I would suggest planting 10 yards and just using the best 5, or experiment a little to find out which of your yards work for the vine. I actually used the suggested tends below for the barreled results on this page. Even with the -12 skin on shimmer, 5 of the 10 yards came out very well. I also tested 10 new yards using no more than 2 of those -12 skins per yard, results at the bottom of the page. Results suggest that the original suggested tends still work better. I've merely shown you what's possible here with the right yards.

Tannin Testing high skin

Vine Acid Color Grape Qual Skin Sugar Date Alch Sugar Tannin Acid
#429 63 120 94 43 222 34 5/14 17.0 6.3
Day1 5/15 3.2% 15.4 25.0 6.3
Day2 5/16 5.6% 14.2 43.7 6.3
Day3 5/17 8% 13.0 62.3 6.3
Day4 5/18 10.1% 11.9 79.4 6.3
Day5 5/19 11.6% 11.2 96.4 6.3
Day6 5/20 11.7% 11.1 109.2 6.3
1 week 5/21 11.9% 11.0 123.6 6.3
2 weeks 5/28 12.5% 10.7 191.3 6.3
3+ weeks 6/7 13%% 10.5 235.2 6.3

Tannin Testing, best 4 out of 10 yards mixed in 1 barrel

Vine Acid Color Grape Qual Skin Sugar Date Alch Sugar Tannin Acid
#429 76 67 86 5 229 66 5/14 30.3 7.3
#429 71 48 71 14 215 52
#429 87 98 68 16 215 65
#429 64 104 91 35 195 59
Day1 5/15 5.7% 27.4 16.0 7.3
Day2 5/16 9.9% 25.3 27.9 7.3
Day3 5/17 11.1% 24.7 39.9 7.3
Day4 5/18 11.3% 24.6 50.8 7.3
Day5 5/19 11.6% 24.5 61.7 7.3
Day6 5/20 11.7% 24.4 69.9 7.3
1 week 5/21 11.9% 24.3 79.1 7.3
2 weeks 5/28 12.5% 24.0 122.3 7.3
3+ weeks 6/7 13% 23.8 150.5 7.3

Suggested Tends for Tedra's Tannin

Condition Tend A C G Q K S V Notes
Sagging Mist -2 2 4 1 5 -4 -1
Wilting Trim 3 -6 -1 -3 11 6 -1
Musty Spread 8 8 4 2 15 3 -11
Fat Aerate 6 5 4 -1 13 6 -6
Rustle Pinch 5 12 4 3 13 2 -3
Shrivel Aerate 0 -4 3 1 6 -5 -2
Shimmer Spread -1 8 2 4 -12 5 -3
Totals - 19 25 20 x 51 13 27

Sagging

Tend A C G Q K S V Notes
AS 8 10 0 4 -5 0 -10
MG -2 2 4 1 5 -4 -1
PO 0 -1 2 -3 9 0 -14
SL 0 7 -2 -3 0 -4 -3
SV -4 4 -3 4 3 8 -8
TV -3 0 1 4 -8 6 -5
TL -1 -7 1 3 -3 5 -12

Wilting

Tend A C G Q K S V Notes
AS 4 1 3 0 -3 -5 -12
MG 3 -3 -1 2 2 7 -4
PO -3 10 4 -3 -6 1 -9
SL -5 -6 0 2 10 -2 -14
SV 0 10 -2 4 13 5 -11
TV 4 0 1 -1 -9 7 -5
TL 3 -6 -1 -3 11 6 -1

Musty

Tend A C G Q K S V Notes
AS 3 10 2 -1 -9 7 -11
MG -3 12 -1 -1 -8 4 -3
PO 3 -1 -1 2 -11 4 -14
SL 1 -9 2 -1 15 2 -12
SV 8 8 4 2 15 3 -11
TV 0 3 -1 0 3 1 -13
TL 7 -7 -2 -1 15 -1 -9

Fat

Tend A C G Q K S V Notes
AS 6 5 4 -1 13 6 -6
MG -2 -1 0 3 10 8 -4
PO 6 12 0 1 10 -4 -6
SL -4 8 -2 -1 -12 0 -14
SV 6 11 3 0 -9 8 -9
TV -3 12 3 -1 0 0 -10
TL 8 -6 -2 0 0 7 -12

Rustle

Tend A C G Q K S V Notes
AS -4 -1 2 -2 2 3 9
MG 1 4 -3 -3 3 -1 -3
PO 5 12 4 3 13 2 -3
SL 4 -5 3 4 1 0 -2
SV 7 -3 -2 4 -9 -2 -7
TV 2 -9 -1 1 -3 5 -6
TL -2 -4 1 -1 0 0 -7

Shrivel

Tend A C G Q K S V Notes
AS 0 -4 3 1 6 -5 -2
MG 4 10 -2 2 -11 -6 -12
PO 4 -3 4 1 5 8 -12
SL 4 3 1 0 -10 4 -10
SV 7 11 -3 -1 -1 7 -12
TV 4 -5 4 1 1 1 -9
TL 1 6 3 1 -8 4 -12

Wicked Shimmer

Tend A C G Q K S V Notes
AS 3 -6 2 4 9 5 -8
MG 3 1 3 0 15 4 -14
PO 3 -4 3 2 2 0 -11
SL 0 -5 -1 -2 3 8 -14
SV -1 8 2 4 -12 5 -3
TV 8 0 -3 1 16 2 -11
TL 8 9 -1 1 -4 3 -13

Alternately use two SV on the first two shimmers to stock up some color, then switch to TV or MG for anymore shimmers, but if you get too many more, you won't reach a decent skin.

Tedra's Tannin to full harvest

Vine Acid Color Grape Quality Skin Sugar Notes
Tedra's Tannin 71 74 74 12 219 51
Tedra's Tannin 75 69 80 14 234 48
Tedra's Tannin 80 47 51 3 200 86 not enough color
Tedra's Tannin 71 40 63 6 232 60 not enough color
Tedra's Tannin 63 61 82 6 190 52
Tedra's Tannin 65 65 66 3 194 73
Tedra's Tannin 61 112 88 35 230 32
Attribute Abbreviation Notes
Acid A Determines how long flavours remain while bottled. Lower acid wines lose their flavour the more they age. The exact formula for determining how long wine will last is unknown.
Color C In combination with the vine's genetics (see below), determines the hue of wine made from these grapes (though again, the exact role is not clear).
Grapes G Each cutting type will have a set number of starting grapes, each time it is planted. If the grape count ever reaches 0, the vine will die.
Quality Q Determines the potential quality of wines made from these grapes. Higher quality wines will reveal more flavors and retain these flavors longer.
Skin K May be involved in the production of Tannin in the barrel (see below).
Sugar S Sugar is converted to alcohol in the barrel.
Vigor V How much "life" is left in the vine. If Vigor ever reaches 0, the vine will die.
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