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! Vine !! Starting Grape No. !! Hue | ! Vine !! Starting Grape No. !! Hue | ||
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− | | Tedra's | + | | Tedra's Tannin|| 12 || Red |
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− | This is a very yard sensitive vine. The tends are decent until shimmer shows up. If the yard you put it on has a lot of shimmers, the vine won't reach it's potential. If you're going to use this vine for tannin spirits, I would suggest planting 10 yards and just using the best 5, or experiment a little to find out which of your yards work for the vine. I actually used the suggested tends below for the barreled results on this page. Even with the -12 skin on shimmer, 5 of the 10 yards came out very well. I | + | This is a very yard sensitive vine. The tends are decent until shimmer shows up. If the yard you put it on has a lot of shimmers, the vine won't reach it's potential. If you're going to use this vine for tannin spirits, I would suggest planting 10 yards and just using the best 5, or experiment a little to find out which of your yards work for the vine. I actually used the suggested tends below for the barreled results on this page. Even with the -12 skin on shimmer, 5 of the 10 yards came out very well. I also tested 10 new yards using no more than 2 of those -12 skins per yard, results at the bottom of the page. Results suggest that the original suggested tends still work better. I've merely shown you what's possible here with the right yards. |
== Tannin Testing high skin== | == Tannin Testing high skin== | ||
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| Day3|| || || || || || ||5/17 || 8% || 13.0 || 62.3|| 6.3 ||align="left"| | | Day3|| || || || || || ||5/17 || 8% || 13.0 || 62.3|| 6.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | | Day4|| || || || || || ||5/18 || 10.1% || 11.9|| 79.4|| 6.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | | Day5|| || || || || || ||5/19 || 11.6% || 11.2|| 96.4|| 6.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | | Day6|| || || || || || ||5/20|| 11.7% || 11.1|| 109.2|| 6.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | | 1 week|| || || || || || ||5/21|| 11.9% || 11.0|| 123.6|| 6.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | | 2 weeks|| || || || || || ||5/28|| 12.5% || 10.7|| 191.3|| 6.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | | 3+ weeks|| || || || || || ||6/7|| 13%% || 10.5|| 235.2|| 6.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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|Day3 || || || || || || ||5/17 || 11.1% || 24.7 || 39.9|| 7.3 ||align="left"| | |Day3 || || || || || || ||5/17 || 11.1% || 24.7 || 39.9|| 7.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | |Day4 || || || || || || ||5/18 || 11.3% || 24.6 || 50.8|| 7.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | |Day5 || || || || || || ||5/19 || 11.6% || 24.5 || 61.7|| 7.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | |Day6 || || || || || || ||5/20 || 11.7% || 24.4 || 69.9|| 7.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | |1 week || || || || || || ||5/21 || 11.9% || 24.3 || 79.1|| 7.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | |2 weeks || || || || || || ||5/28 || 12.5% || 24.0 || 122.3|| 7.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | | 3+ weeks|| || || || || || ||6/7|| 13% || 23.8|| 150.5|| 7.3 ||align="left"| | ||
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− | == Suggested Tends for Tedra's | + | == Suggested Tends for Tedra's Tannin == |
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| Shrivel ||Aerate || 0 || -4 || 3 || 1 || 6 || -5 || -2 ||align="left"| | | Shrivel ||Aerate || 0 || -4 || 3 || 1 || 6 || -5 || -2 ||align="left"| | ||
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| Tedra's Tannin||61 || 112 || 88 || 35 || 230 || 32 ||align="left"| | | Tedra's Tannin||61 || 112 || 88 || 35 || 230 || 32 ||align="left"| | ||
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+ | ! Attribute !! Abbreviation !! Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | '''Acid''' ||align="center"| A || Determines how long flavours remain while bottled. Lower acid wines lose their flavour the more they age. The exact formula for determining how long wine will last is unknown. | ||
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+ | | '''Color''' ||align="center"| C || In combination with the vine's genetics (see below), determines the hue of wine made from these grapes (though again, the exact role is not clear). | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | '''Grapes''' ||align="center"| G || Each cutting type will have a set number of starting grapes, each time it is planted. If the grape count ever reaches 0, the vine will die. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | '''Quality''' ||align="center"| Q || Determines the potential quality of wines made from these grapes. Higher quality wines will reveal more flavors and retain these flavors longer. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | '''Skin''' ||align="center"| K || May be involved in the production of Tannin in the barrel (see below). | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | '''Sugar''' ||align="center"| S || Sugar is converted to alcohol in the barrel. | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | '''Vigor''' ||align="center"| V || How much "life" is left in the vine. If Vigor ever reaches 0, the vine will die. | ||
|} | |} |
Latest revision as of 00:18, 28 September 2009
Phenotype (ACCKKKS)
Vine | Starting Grape No. | Hue |
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Tedra's Tannin | 12 | Red |
This is a very yard sensitive vine. The tends are decent until shimmer shows up. If the yard you put it on has a lot of shimmers, the vine won't reach it's potential. If you're going to use this vine for tannin spirits, I would suggest planting 10 yards and just using the best 5, or experiment a little to find out which of your yards work for the vine. I actually used the suggested tends below for the barreled results on this page. Even with the -12 skin on shimmer, 5 of the 10 yards came out very well. I also tested 10 new yards using no more than 2 of those -12 skins per yard, results at the bottom of the page. Results suggest that the original suggested tends still work better. I've merely shown you what's possible here with the right yards.
Tannin Testing high skin
Vine | Acid | Color | Grape | Qual | Skin | Sugar | Date | Alch | Sugar | Tannin | Acid | |
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#429 | 63 | 120 | 94 | 43 | 222 | 34 | 5/14 | 17.0 | 6.3 | |||
Day1 | 5/15 | 3.2% | 15.4 | 25.0 | 6.3 | |||||||
Day2 | 5/16 | 5.6% | 14.2 | 43.7 | 6.3 | |||||||
Day3 | 5/17 | 8% | 13.0 | 62.3 | 6.3 | |||||||
Day4 | 5/18 | 10.1% | 11.9 | 79.4 | 6.3 | |||||||
Day5 | 5/19 | 11.6% | 11.2 | 96.4 | 6.3 | |||||||
Day6 | 5/20 | 11.7% | 11.1 | 109.2 | 6.3 | |||||||
1 week | 5/21 | 11.9% | 11.0 | 123.6 | 6.3 | |||||||
2 weeks | 5/28 | 12.5% | 10.7 | 191.3 | 6.3 | |||||||
3+ weeks | 6/7 | 13%% | 10.5 | 235.2 | 6.3 | |||||||
Tannin Testing, best 4 out of 10 yards mixed in 1 barrel
Vine | Acid | Color | Grape | Qual | Skin | Sugar | Date | Alch | Sugar | Tannin | Acid | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
#429 | 76 | 67 | 86 | 5 | 229 | 66 | 5/14 | 30.3 | 7.3 | |||
#429 | 71 | 48 | 71 | 14 | 215 | 52 | ||||||
#429 | 87 | 98 | 68 | 16 | 215 | 65 | ||||||
#429 | 64 | 104 | 91 | 35 | 195 | 59 | ||||||
Day1 | 5/15 | 5.7% | 27.4 | 16.0 | 7.3 | |||||||
Day2 | 5/16 | 9.9% | 25.3 | 27.9 | 7.3 | |||||||
Day3 | 5/17 | 11.1% | 24.7 | 39.9 | 7.3 | |||||||
Day4 | 5/18 | 11.3% | 24.6 | 50.8 | 7.3 | |||||||
Day5 | 5/19 | 11.6% | 24.5 | 61.7 | 7.3 | |||||||
Day6 | 5/20 | 11.7% | 24.4 | 69.9 | 7.3 | |||||||
1 week | 5/21 | 11.9% | 24.3 | 79.1 | 7.3 | |||||||
2 weeks | 5/28 | 12.5% | 24.0 | 122.3 | 7.3 | |||||||
3+ weeks | 6/7 | 13% | 23.8 | 150.5 | 7.3 |
Suggested Tends for Tedra's Tannin
Condition | Tend | A | C | G | Q | K | S | V | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Sagging | Mist | -2 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 5 | -4 | -1 | |
Wilting | Trim | 3 | -6 | -1 | -3 | 11 | 6 | -1 | |
Musty | Spread | 8 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 15 | 3 | -11 | |
Fat | Aerate | 6 | 5 | 4 | -1 | 13 | 6 | -6 | |
Rustle | Pinch | 5 | 12 | 4 | 3 | 13 | 2 | -3 | |
Shrivel | Aerate | 0 | -4 | 3 | 1 | 6 | -5 | -2 | |
Shimmer | Spread | -1 | 8 | 2 | 4 | -12 | 5 | -3 | |
Totals | - | 19 | 25 | 20 | x | 51 | 13 | 27 |
Sagging
Tend | A | C | G | Q | K | S | V | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
AS | 8 | 10 | 0 | 4 | -5 | 0 | -10 | |
MG | -2 | 2 | 4 | 1 | 5 | -4 | -1 | |
PO | 0 | -1 | 2 | -3 | 9 | 0 | -14 | |
SL | 0 | 7 | -2 | -3 | 0 | -4 | -3 | |
SV | -4 | 4 | -3 | 4 | 3 | 8 | -8 | |
TV | -3 | 0 | 1 | 4 | -8 | 6 | -5 | |
TL | -1 | -7 | 1 | 3 | -3 | 5 | -12 |
Wilting
Tend | A | C | G | Q | K | S | V | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
AS | 4 | 1 | 3 | 0 | -3 | -5 | -12 | |
MG | 3 | -3 | -1 | 2 | 2 | 7 | -4 | |
PO | -3 | 10 | 4 | -3 | -6 | 1 | -9 | |
SL | -5 | -6 | 0 | 2 | 10 | -2 | -14 | |
SV | 0 | 10 | -2 | 4 | 13 | 5 | -11 | |
TV | 4 | 0 | 1 | -1 | -9 | 7 | -5 | |
TL | 3 | -6 | -1 | -3 | 11 | 6 | -1 |
Musty
Tend | A | C | G | Q | K | S | V | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
AS | 3 | 10 | 2 | -1 | -9 | 7 | -11 | |
MG | -3 | 12 | -1 | -1 | -8 | 4 | -3 | |
PO | 3 | -1 | -1 | 2 | -11 | 4 | -14 | |
SL | 1 | -9 | 2 | -1 | 15 | 2 | -12 | |
SV | 8 | 8 | 4 | 2 | 15 | 3 | -11 | |
TV | 0 | 3 | -1 | 0 | 3 | 1 | -13 | |
TL | 7 | -7 | -2 | -1 | 15 | -1 | -9 |
Fat
Tend | A | C | G | Q | K | S | V | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
AS | 6 | 5 | 4 | -1 | 13 | 6 | -6 | |
MG | -2 | -1 | 0 | 3 | 10 | 8 | -4 | |
PO | 6 | 12 | 0 | 1 | 10 | -4 | -6 | |
SL | -4 | 8 | -2 | -1 | -12 | 0 | -14 | |
SV | 6 | 11 | 3 | 0 | -9 | 8 | -9 | |
TV | -3 | 12 | 3 | -1 | 0 | 0 | -10 | |
TL | 8 | -6 | -2 | 0 | 0 | 7 | -12 |
Rustle
Tend | A | C | G | Q | K | S | V | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
AS | -4 | -1 | 2 | -2 | 2 | 3 | 9 | |
MG | 1 | 4 | -3 | -3 | 3 | -1 | -3 | |
PO | 5 | 12 | 4 | 3 | 13 | 2 | -3 | |
SL | 4 | -5 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 0 | -2 | |
SV | 7 | -3 | -2 | 4 | -9 | -2 | -7 | |
TV | 2 | -9 | -1 | 1 | -3 | 5 | -6 | |
TL | -2 | -4 | 1 | -1 | 0 | 0 | -7 |
Shrivel
Tend | A | C | G | Q | K | S | V | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
AS | 0 | -4 | 3 | 1 | 6 | -5 | -2 | |
MG | 4 | 10 | -2 | 2 | -11 | -6 | -12 | |
PO | 4 | -3 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 8 | -12 | |
SL | 4 | 3 | 1 | 0 | -10 | 4 | -10 | |
SV | 7 | 11 | -3 | -1 | -1 | 7 | -12 | |
TV | 4 | -5 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 | -9 | |
TL | 1 | 6 | 3 | 1 | -8 | 4 | -12 |
Wicked Shimmer
Tend | A | C | G | Q | K | S | V | Notes |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
AS | 3 | -6 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 5 | -8 | |
MG | 3 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 15 | 4 | -14 | |
PO | 3 | -4 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 0 | -11 | |
SL | 0 | -5 | -1 | -2 | 3 | 8 | -14 | |
SV | -1 | 8 | 2 | 4 | -12 | 5 | -3 | |
TV | 8 | 0 | -3 | 1 | 16 | 2 | -11 | |
TL | 8 | 9 | -1 | 1 | -4 | 3 | -13 |
Alternately use two SV on the first two shimmers to stock up some color, then switch to TV or MG for anymore shimmers, but if you get too many more, you won't reach a decent skin.
Tedra's Tannin to full harvest
Vine | Acid | Color | Grape | Quality | Skin | Sugar | Notes | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Tedra's Tannin | 71 | 74 | 74 | 12 | 219 | 51 | ||
Tedra's Tannin | 75 | 69 | 80 | 14 | 234 | 48 | ||
Tedra's Tannin | 80 | 47 | 51 | 3 | 200 | 86 | not enough color | |
Tedra's Tannin | 71 | 40 | 63 | 6 | 232 | 60 | not enough color | |
Tedra's Tannin | 63 | 61 | 82 | 6 | 190 | 52 | ||
Tedra's Tannin | 65 | 65 | 66 | 3 | 194 | 73 | ||
Tedra's Tannin | 61 | 112 | 88 | 35 | 230 | 32 |
Attribute | Abbreviation | Notes |
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Acid | A | Determines how long flavours remain while bottled. Lower acid wines lose their flavour the more they age. The exact formula for determining how long wine will last is unknown. |
Color | C | In combination with the vine's genetics (see below), determines the hue of wine made from these grapes (though again, the exact role is not clear). |
Grapes | G | Each cutting type will have a set number of starting grapes, each time it is planted. If the grape count ever reaches 0, the vine will die. |
Quality | Q | Determines the potential quality of wines made from these grapes. Higher quality wines will reveal more flavors and retain these flavors longer. |
Skin | K | May be involved in the production of Tannin in the barrel (see below). |
Sugar | S | Sugar is converted to alcohol in the barrel. |
Vigor | V | How much "life" is left in the vine. If Vigor ever reaches 0, the vine will die. |