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− | = | + | Catlyn had a good point about our strategy of building mini-towers to try and get carrot and onion towers. Her question was, is it worth eating up the capacity of the cistern with the mini-towers. This is a good question, so I did some math to see if this strategy is worth it or not. Below is a graph of our projected water use. This assumes each tower consumes 1440 points of water per day (according to the T2 wiki), and that we will have a 1MIL sized cistern. Current mini-towers = 14. |
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− | | | + | |53 (39 Normal Towers + 14 mini-towers = Current number of towers) |
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+ | |1,000,000/76,320 = 13 days | ||
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+ | |1,000,000/135,360 = 7 days | ||
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− | + | So, in the end, adding another 16 mini-towers on top of our current 14 mini-towers, in an attempt to bring SA a carrot and/or onion bonus tower, will cost the cistern only 1 day of extra drainage once we are finished upgrading our cistern to 1 Million. | |
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+ | = Group B historical discussion = | ||
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+ | == Build Order == | ||
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+ | '''Note: dresdor will most likely build last. Luscado has to contribute still, and will also be fit into the build order. Ping and Aolen are not building due to inactivity. Biker and Sweetnothing have also stopped playing the game.''' | ||
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+ | Group B scores: | ||
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+ | Daniels 56704 | ||
+ | Bourbon 41988 | ||
+ | Arthur 26111.5 | ||
+ | ''Aolen 16618.5'' | ||
+ | ''Ping 15260'' | ||
+ | Dvo 15180 | ||
+ | klax 12100 | ||
+ | {Kalmkitty 11519.5 | ||
+ | {Mespho 11519.5 | ||
+ | Raia 11050 | ||
+ | CelAmun 7290 | ||
+ | {Shemeit 5575 | ||
+ | {Rami 5575 | ||
+ | Halinor 5080 | ||
+ | zisoni 4223 | ||
+ | ladygrim 3630 | ||
+ | {BL 2860.5 | ||
+ | {Augusta 2860.5 | ||
+ | Hanz (SpicyXX) 2440 | ||
+ | Luscado 1750 | ||
+ | Lacy | ||
+ | Bobophet | ||
+ | dresdor | ||
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+ | == What is still needed? == | ||
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+ | This is a summary of what's still needed. The [[Guilds/SA Waterworks/Contributions|Contributions]] page is still the official record, so doublecheck there. | ||
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+ | (Last updated 21 June 1:45AM UTC) | ||
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+ | === Cistern upgrade === | ||
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+ | * 4,095 canvas | ||
==Individual Plans== | ==Individual Plans== | ||
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+ | ===Aolen=== | ||
+ | *I have the 77 remaining copper pipes in the forges right now. They will be stashed as soon as I am finished my other forging. | ||
+ | --[[User:Aolen|Aolen]] 19:32, 5 June 2009 (EST) | ||
===Daniels=== | ===Daniels=== | ||
− | *I am a pipe segment making machine. | + | *I am a pipe segment making machine. |
--[[User:Daniels|Daniels]] 00:00, 4 June 2009 (EST) | --[[User:Daniels|Daniels]] 00:00, 4 June 2009 (EST) | ||
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* Making Canvas and Tiles. I have two ovens which I'm burning on Sunday mornings. Looks like 5500ish tiles a week. 2700ish of the Yellow Green, the other oven is Black/White/Other. | * Making Canvas and Tiles. I have two ovens which I'm burning on Sunday mornings. Looks like 5500ish tiles a week. 2700ish of the Yellow Green, the other oven is Black/White/Other. | ||
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=== Hitch/RosieRazor === | === Hitch/RosieRazor === |
Latest revision as of 23:05, 3 July 2009
Use this page to communicate to the guild what you intend to build. Please understand that this does not mean you can reserve materials, as that would imply that the point system is pointless! In other words, members are not obligated to wait for you to finish collecting your materials, and there will be no consequence for contributing faster than someone else (the Test is based on time, after all). On the other hand, please respect others intentions to build as much as possible. This page is to be used as a courtesy towards each other. Remember, this is a team effort!
Group C and Beyond discussion
Catlyn had a good point about our strategy of building mini-towers to try and get carrot and onion towers. Her question was, is it worth eating up the capacity of the cistern with the mini-towers. This is a good question, so I did some math to see if this strategy is worth it or not. Below is a graph of our projected water use. This assumes each tower consumes 1440 points of water per day (according to the T2 wiki), and that we will have a 1MIL sized cistern. Current mini-towers = 14.
Number of towers | Water Use Per Day | How long the cistern will sustain water |
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53 (39 Normal Towers + 14 mini-towers = Current number of towers) | 76,320 | 1,000,000/76,320 = 13 days |
94 (80 Normal Towers, plus currently 14 mini-towers) | 135,360 | 1,000,000/135,360 = 7 days |
110 (80 Normal Towers, plus 30 total mini-towers) | 158,400 | 1,000,000/158,400 = 6 days |
So, in the end, adding another 16 mini-towers on top of our current 14 mini-towers, in an attempt to bring SA a carrot and/or onion bonus tower, will cost the cistern only 1 day of extra drainage once we are finished upgrading our cistern to 1 Million.
Group B historical discussion
Build Order
Note: dresdor will most likely build last. Luscado has to contribute still, and will also be fit into the build order. Ping and Aolen are not building due to inactivity. Biker and Sweetnothing have also stopped playing the game.
Group B scores:
Daniels 56704 Bourbon 41988 Arthur 26111.5 Aolen 16618.5 Ping 15260 Dvo 15180 klax 12100 {Kalmkitty 11519.5 {Mespho 11519.5 Raia 11050 CelAmun 7290 {Shemeit 5575 {Rami 5575 Halinor 5080 zisoni 4223 ladygrim 3630 {BL 2860.5 {Augusta 2860.5 Hanz (SpicyXX) 2440 Luscado 1750 Lacy Bobophet dresdor
What is still needed?
This is a summary of what's still needed. The Contributions page is still the official record, so doublecheck there.
(Last updated 21 June 1:45AM UTC)
Cistern upgrade
- 4,095 canvas
Individual Plans
Aolen
- I have the 77 remaining copper pipes in the forges right now. They will be stashed as soon as I am finished my other forging.
--Aolen 19:32, 5 June 2009 (EST)
Daniels
- I am a pipe segment making machine.
--Daniels 00:00, 4 June 2009 (EST)
Dvo
- All color tiles as I burn them for temple
- bricks
- canvas
- leather
- tar
- med/small gears
talk to Aplus for more info
Group A historical discussion
GEARBOXES
1: Numaris : 1 Gearbox B30-B35 F248-F293 5 med 10 small - done 2: Numaris: 1 Gearbox A357-A439 G88-G103 4 med 12 small - done 3: McArine: 1 Gearbox A418-A518 G67-G81 6 med 13 small - done 4: McArnine: 1 Gearbox A16-A20 F417-F492 7 med 12 small - done 5: Numaris: 1 Gearbox C282-C333 H406-H483 7 med 11 small - done 6: Numaris: 1 Gearbox A83-A101 F128-F148 3 med 11 small - done 7: Numaris: 1 Gearbox A421-A488 G311-G389 5 med 12 small - done 8: Numaris: 1 Gearbox A413-A479 G427-G495 3 med 11 small - done 9: McArine: 1 Gearbox A51-A59 H25-H29 7 med 14 small - done 10: Aplus : 1 Gearbox C206-C247 G440-G541 7 med 12 small - done 11: Aplus: 1 Gearbox C179-C208 G74-G88 5 med 10 small - done 12: Inkoaten: 1 Gearbox C290-C354 H407-H497 - done Shafts: 12 Gears: 23 (12 small, 5 medium, 0 large) Box: C333 H463: 1A:1,3; 2A:1,3; 3A:1,3; 4A:1,3,5; 5B:5,1,3; 6C:3,6; 6D:3; 6E:3; 6F:3,5; 7G:4,3; 8C:1,5; 8H:4; 13: Inkoaten: 1 Gearbox A271-A320 G48-G56 - done Shafts: 11 Gears: 21 (11 small, 4 medium, 0 large) Box: A278 G50: 1A:1,4; 2B:1,4; 3C:3,4; 4C:3; 5C:3; 6C:3,5; 7B:1,3,5; 7D:5; 7F:6,4; 8A:1,1,3; 8G:1,4; 14: McArine: 1 Gearbox B312-B378 H290-H336 3 med 12 small - done 15: McArine: 1 Gearbox A103-A128 F138-F163 5 med 10 small - done 16: McArine: 1 Gearbox A402-A490 H18-H21 3 med 13 small - done 17: Inkoaten: 1 Gearbox A31-A38 F499-F584 - done Shafts: 13 Gears: 23 (11 small, 7 medium, 0 large) Box: A36 F556: 1A:3,5; 2A:3; 3A:3; 4A:3,5; 5A:3; 5B:1,3,6; 5D:1,1,5; 6A:3; 6E:5,1,3; 7B:5,3; 7F:3; 8A:1,5; 8F:3; 18: Inkoaten: 1 Gearbox B69-B79 H226-H267 - done Gears: 20 (11 small, 5 medium, 0 large) Box: B72 H240: 1A:1,6; 3A:3,5,6; 3C:1,1,5; 4A:3; 4D:4,1,3; 5A:3; 5E:4; 6A:3; 6F:4; 7A:3; 7G:4; 8B:5; 8H:4; 19: Inkoaten: 1 Gearbox B84-B100 G264-G325 - done Gears: 18 (11 small, 2 medium, 0 large) Box: B100 G278: 1A:4; 2B:4; 3C:4; 4D:4; 5E:4,5; 6D:4; 6F:1,3,5; 7C:4; 7G:1,1,3; 8B:4; 8G:1,1,3; 20: Numaris : 1 Gearbox C353-C406 H26-H30 7 med 11 small - done
GEARBOXES ROUND 2
1: Numaris:1 Gearbox B309-B355 G411-G477 5 med 11 small - done 2: Numaris:1 Gearbox C355-C415 H259-H321 5 med 11 small - done 3: Aplus:1 Gearbox B484-B571 G466-G555 2 med 13 small 1 large - done 4: Numaris:1 Gearbox C19-C23 G78-G93 5 med 12 small - done 5: Numaris:1 Gearbox C72-C86 G369-G432 6 med 10 small - done 6: Aplus:1 Gearbox C51-C64 F360-F450 6 med 16 small - done 7: Aplus:1 Gearbox C406-C503 F428-F501 3 med 11 small - done 8: Aplus:1 Gearbox C29-C35 G429-G511 6 med 14 small - done 9: Aplus:1 Gearbox C401-C501 H329-H411 5 med 11 small - done 10: Inkoaten:1 Gearbox C385-C462 F37-F45 - built Shafts: 11 Gears: 26 (12 small, 6 medium, 0 large) Box: C400 F43: 1A:1,3; 1B:4,3; 2C:4,1,6; 4C:3,1,5; 5B:1,6,3; 5D:5,3; 6E:1,5,4; 7B:1,5; 7F:3,1,4; 8C:1,3; 8F:3; 11: Inkoaten:1 Gearbox B19-B23 G139-G167 - built Shafts: 11 Gears: 22 (11 small, 4 medium, 0 large) Box: B22 G167: 1A:4; 2B:4; 3C:4; 4D:4; 5E:4,3; 6D:1,5,3; 6F:4,1,5; 7C:3,1,5; 7G:1,1,3; 8B:5; 8G:1,1,3; 12: Inkoaten:1 Gearbox C126-C158 G135-G157 - built Shafts: 10 Gears: 17 (10 small, 4 medium, 0 large) Box: C144 G144: 1A:1,3; 2A:4,3; 3B:4; 4C:4,1,6; 4E:1,6,5; 6E:4,5; 7D:4; 7F:4; 8C:4; 8G:4; 13: Inkoaten:1 Gearbox C489-C587 F144-F171 - built Shafts: 12 Gears: 21 (12 small, 4 medium, 0 large) Box: C556 F167: 1A:4; 2B:4; 3C:4; 4D:4,5; 5C:1,1,5; 5E:1,3,6; 6B:5,1,3; 6E:1,3; 7C:3; 7E:4,3; 8C:3; 8F:4; 14: Inkoaten:1 Gearbox C142-C163 F244-F285 Shafts: 11 Gears: 21 (10 small, 6 medium, 0 large) Box: C144 F278: 1A:4; 2B:4; 3C:4,3; 4C:1,3,6; 4D:4; 5E:4; 6C:6,1,5; 6F:4,5; 7G:1,3,5; 8C:5; 8F:1,1,3; 15: Numaris:1 Gearbox B179-B220 G110-G129 2 med 13 small - done 16: Daniels:1 Gearbox A480-A600 F442-F517 5 med 13 smalls - done 17: Daniels:1 Gearbox B67-B78 F386-F448 11 med 6 small - done 18: Aplus:1 Gearbox C432-C501 F254-F295 3 med 14 small - done 19: Numaris:1 Gearbox B227-B261 F467-F579 20: Aplus:1 Gearbox B120-B148 G205-G244 4 med 11 small - done
GEARBOXES ROUND 3
1:Numaris:1 Gearbox A414-A484 F67-F82 6 med 10 small - done 2:Numaris:1 Gearbox C363-C443 H251-H299 5 med 11 small - done 3:Numaris:1 Gearbox A27-A33 H359-H427 7 med 9 small 4:Numaris:1 Gearbox A311-A386 F293-F366 - done 5:Inkoaten:1 Gearbox A262-A301 G391-G457 - done Shafts: 12 Gears: 27 (11 small, 6 medium, 0 large) Box: A278 G400: 1A:1,3; 2A:4,3; 3B:4; 4C:4,5,6; 4E:1,1,5; 5B:1,3; 5F:6,1,3; 6B:1,3,5; 7A:1,1,3; 7F:5; 8A:1,1,3; 8G:3; 6:Inkoaten:1 Gearbox C399-C471 G134-G168 - done Shafts: 10 Gears: 18 (10 small, 3 medium, 0 large) Box: C463 G167: 1A:1,5; 2B:1,3; 3B:4,3; 4C:4; 5D:4; 6E:4,5; 7D:1,3,5; 7F:4; 8C:1,1,3; 8G:4; 7:Numaris:1 Gearbox C290-C360 H413-H508 8:Aplus:1 Gearbox A49-A60 H389-H451 Shafts: 14 Gears: 23 (14 small, 5 medium, 0 large) Box: A60 H400: 1A:4; 2B:4,3,6; 2D:1,1,5; 3A:3,5; 3E:1,6,3; 4A:3; 5A:3; 5E:1,5; 6A:3; 6F:4,3; 7A:3; 7G:4; 8A:3; 8H:4; 9:Aplus:1 Gearbox B90-B105 F25-F30 - done 10:Aplus:1 Gearbox C75-C88 G467-G584 - done
Build Order w/ Final Points
Fractions were thrown out for those that split a pool of points. I assume those that split points can decide amongst themselves what they want the actual build order to be.
1) Diania 168,688 2) Catlyn 155,984 3) Aplus 99,155 4) Cali 99,155 5) Sefet 73,414 6) Inkoaten 69,782 7) Numaris 51,467 8) Kartal 43,860 9) Robare 36,360 10) Trillian 22,598 11) Asnath 21,646 12) Kastou 21,646 13) Darwishi 15,953 14) Nourbese 15,953 15) McArine 15,953 16) Ping 13,320 17) RosieRazor 12,712 18) Hitch 12,712 19) Tricross 12,415 20) JulianJaynes 7,103
What do we still need?
The contributions page is still the official place to look, but this might be easier to read..
(last updated May 30, 12:20 UTC)
Tiles
- 2.1k Black
- 18k any color
Individual plans
Use this page to communicate to the guild what you intend to build. Please understand that this does not mean you can reserve materials, as that would imply that the point system is pointless! In other words, members are not obligated to wait for you to finish collecting your materials, and there will be no consequence for contributing faster than someone else (the Test is based on time, after all). On the other hand, please respect others intentions to build as much as possible. This page is to be used as a courtesy towards each other. Remember, this is a team effort!
Please add a date to your entry.
Aplus/Cali
- tiles (not specifying a number but will have some for each category and will donate as burned) (05/11/09)
- have 3 OSM, 3 Night Granite and 2 Grey Star quarries up, just need a bit of gearbox work and a lot of quarrying.
--Cali 14:52, 11 May 2009 (EST)
Inkoaten
- 2500-3000/week of each of pinkish, greenish, yellowish tiles (7500-9000/week total)
- I am working some OSM and Night Granite quarries jointly with Numaris, for personal use. If I end up with extra and we still need marble, I can contribute that.
- Some route surveying data is here: User:Inkoaten/Survey
Working on another 25k bricks (which I'll put in another new warehouse by the pump location)About 10k bricks in a WH by the pump just in case, but we're OK for bricks now without them.Concrete with Numaris
--Inkoaten 09:46, 15 May 2009 (EST)
Catlyn
- Making Canvas and Tiles. I have two ovens which I'm burning on Sunday mornings. Looks like 5500ish tiles a week. 2700ish of the Yellow Green, the other oven is Black/White/Other.
Hitch/RosieRazor
- Working on concrete. Also burning tiles but only black/white/other. Also starting to play with gearboxes
--Hitch 21:02, 11 May 2009 (EST)
Sefet
- Growin' veggies off and on.
--Sefet 17:02, 4 June 2009 (EDT)
JulianJaynes
- working on 7k bricks, some pipe segments and maybe more gears if I can get the mats. JulianJaynes 19:48, 17 May 2009 (EST)