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=== About Us === | === About Us === | ||
− | We're a home guild with a camp on the | + | We're a home guild with a camp on the Mediterranean Sea in Adn, just north of S Thought. We have a mix of English and French speaking members. Our aim is to have fun and support each other in the game and we have a shared guild camp, with some members living in the camp and others in their personal camps nearby. We usually have several [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Guild_Life|GUILD PROJECTS]] in progress for all members to join in with and there are always things you can do to help support the guild. |
− | ==== Our | + | ==== Our Guild Name ==== |
Tariqah is Arabic for the way, path, method. | Tariqah is Arabic for the way, path, method. | ||
Ieb is the Ancient Egyptian word for the heart, the soul. | Ieb is the Ancient Egyptian word for the heart, the soul. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Guild Ranks ==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | We're trying to keep these simple ;) | ||
+ | |||
+ | ** Elder - founder members of the guild | ||
+ | ** Member - everyone else who we have got to know and who join in with guild chat/projects sometimes | ||
+ | ** Initiate - new members of the guild that we're still getting to know | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Guildies|Guildies]] ==== | ||
+ | |||
+ | Please click the link above for pics! | ||
=== Camp Layout === | === Camp Layout === | ||
− | We have separate compounds for each type of building. Each compound | + | We have separate compounds for each type of building. Each compound contains some temporary storage chests for members to use while working in that compound, as well as chests to store shared materials (eg nails for hackling rake replacement, firebricks for kilns, vegetable seeds chest etc). We have a storage compound for members to build chests in for their personal storage. We also have TI projects warehouses around the storage compound. |
− | + | Note: There are also warehouses from other guilds in camp! | |
− | === | + | The compounds, animals and firepits are spaced well apart to try and minimise the effects of pollution, since we do not know how that works yet. |
+ | |||
+ | === [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Guild_Life|How To Help]] === | ||
− | [[ | + | We always have [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Guild_Life|camp chores]] we need members to help with. Please join in with whatever [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Guild_Life|guild projects]] and events you are interested in, we usually have several going on :) Click on the link above for more details of what we're working on. |
− | + | ==== Camp Map ==== | |
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− | <googlemap lat="950" lon="7550" zoom="6" controls="none" type="game" | + | <googlemap lat="950" lon="7550" zoom="6" controls="none" type="game" |
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/Info\ | /Info\ | ||
Guild Hall | Guild Hall | ||
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Flax Compound | Flax Compound | ||
/Contains\ | /Contains\ | ||
− | + | 1 Hackling Rake | |
1 Student Loom | 1 Student Loom | ||
− | + | 26 Small Distaffs | |
− | + | 1 Watermine outside | |
+ | [[Image:Obelisk.png|frameless|right|tex-top|]] | ||
(C)1001,7676 | (C)1001,7676 | ||
/Info\ | /Info\ | ||
Brick Making | Brick Making | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 50 Improved Brick Racks | ||
+ | True Kilns | ||
(D)998,7654 | (D)998,7654 | ||
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Kitchens | Kitchens | ||
/Contains\ | /Contains\ | ||
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+ | Cooking Donations Chests | ||
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Pottery | Pottery | ||
/Contains\ | /Contains\ | ||
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14 True Kilns | 14 True Kilns | ||
+ | 1 Vault Kiln | ||
+ | 1 Pottery Deck | ||
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Carpentry | Carpentry | ||
/Contains\ | /Contains\ | ||
− | 16 Carpentry | + | 16 Carpentry Benches |
+ | 2 Anvils and Boxes with Anvil Tool Sets | ||
+ | (I)1029,7682 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Tubs & Kettles | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 5 Sturdy Tubs | ||
+ | 12 Kettles | ||
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+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Storage | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | Members' personal storage chests | ||
+ | Warehouses for Guild projects right outside | ||
+ | (K)1062,7658 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Rock Cutting | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 1 Mason's Bench | ||
+ | 7 Rock Saws | ||
+ | Clinker Vat | ||
+ | (L)1061,7611 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Furnaces and Reactories | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 2 Compression Furnaces | ||
+ | 1 Fleet Furnace | ||
+ | 2 Reactories upgraded to 7x | ||
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+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Forges and Casting Boxes (all fully upgraded) | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 2 Master's Forges | ||
+ | 8 Student's Forges | ||
+ | 2 Master's Casting Box | ||
+ | 3 Student's Casting Boxes | ||
+ | 1 Watermine outside | ||
+ | (N)1053,7582 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Charcoal Hut | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 4 Charcoal Hearths | ||
+ | 3 Charcoal Ovens | ||
− | + | (O)1040,7560 | |
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | The Paper Shop | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 5 Paper Press | ||
+ | 2 Flax Hammock | ||
+ | 20 Linen | ||
+ | |||
+ | (P)1016,7599 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Laboratory | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 1 Barrel Vise | ||
+ | 1 Pigment Laboratory | ||
+ | 1 Barrel Grinder | ||
+ | 1 Chemistry Laboratory | ||
+ | 1 Scent Lab | ||
+ | |||
+ | (fire)988,7567 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Glass | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | 4 Soda Glass Benches | ||
+ | 4 Jewel Glass Benches | ||
+ | 8 Normal Glass Benches | ||
+ | 1 Fleet Furnace | ||
+ | 4 Firepits outside | ||
+ | 1 Glory hole | ||
+ | (Q)953,7390 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Flax Hammocks for drying Papyrus for seeds | ||
− | + | (sheep)988,7535 | |
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | 8 Sheep Pens | ||
+ | We keep the sheep at 3 females and 3 males per pen | ||
+ | 1 Chicken Coop | ||
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+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | 3 Dromedary Pens | ||
+ | 6 Flax Hammocks | ||
+ | 2 Greenhouse | ||
+ | (T)1007,7514 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Pet Shop | ||
+ | /Contains\ | ||
+ | Khefres Lockers | ||
+ | Honey chest for feeding the camels | ||
− | + | (bee)936, 7621 | |
− | + | /Info\ | |
− | + | Apiaries | |
− | + | Harvest no more than once per day if you have 0 speed | |
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− | + | (bee)997, 7478 | |
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Apiaries | ||
+ | Harvest no more than once per day if you have 0 speed | ||
+ | (X)980,7645 | ||
+ | /Info\ | ||
+ | Conflict Shrine | ||
+ | Voting Booth | ||
+ | Essence of Harmony | ||
+ | Welcome Banner | ||
− | ( | + | (Y)1997,7274 |
/Info\ | /Info\ | ||
− | + | Smelting Compound | |
− | + | /Contains\ | |
− | / | + | Charcoal Hearth |
− | + | Charcoal Oven | |
+ | Gyration Cell | ||
+ | Compression Furnace | ||
+ | Blast Furnace | ||
+ | Carpentry Shop | ||
+ | Anvil (with member access tools box) | ||
+ | Mine Repairs Chest | ||
+ | Improved Brick Racks x 4 | ||
+ | Kitchen | ||
+ | Deep well | ||
− | ( | + | (Z)2221,6933 |
/Info\ | /Info\ | ||
− | + | Hades | |
− | + | Warehouse for ore | |
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− | (I) | + | </googlemap> |
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− | + | *(House)'''Guild Hall''' | |
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− | + | *(B)'''Flax Compound''' | |
− | + | **1 Hackling Rake | |
+ | **1 Hand Loom | ||
+ | **1 Upgraded Flax Gin | ||
+ | **25 Small Distaffs | ||
+ | **1 Watermine outside | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(C)'''Brick Making''' | ||
+ | **50 Improved brick racks | ||
+ | **True Kilns | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(D)'''Horhouse BeerHouse''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(E)'''Wine Cellar ''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(F)'''Kitchens ''' | ||
+ | **10 Kitchens | ||
+ | **Cooking Donations Warehouse | ||
+ | **Malting Trays | ||
+ | **Grain Oven | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(G)'''Pottery''' | ||
+ | **24 Pottery Wheels | ||
+ | **14 True Kilns | ||
+ | **1 Vault Kiln | ||
+ | **1 Pottery Deck | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(H)'''Carpentry Benches''' | ||
+ | **16 Carpentry benches | ||
+ | **2 Anvils and boxes with anvil tool sets | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(I)'''Tubs and Kettles''' | ||
+ | **13 upgraded marble tubs | ||
+ | **12 kettles | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(J)'''Storage''' | ||
+ | **Members' personal storage chests | ||
+ | **Warehouses for Guild projects right outside | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(K)'''Rock Cutting ''' | ||
+ | **5 Mason's Bench | ||
+ | **10 Rock Saws | ||
+ | **Clinker Vat Charcoal | ||
+ | **Clinker Vat Petroleum | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(L)'''Furnaces and Reactories''' | ||
+ | **1 Gyration Cell | ||
+ | **2 Reactories | ||
+ | **2 Gearbox Assembly Tables | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(M)'''Forges and Casting Boxes''' | ||
+ | **2 Master's Forges | ||
+ | **18 Student's Forges | ||
+ | **2 Master's Casting Boxes | ||
+ | **3 Student's Casting Boxes | ||
+ | **1 Watermine outside | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(N)'''Charcoal Hut''' | ||
+ | **4 Charcoal Hearths | ||
+ | **3 Charcoal Ovens | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(O)'''The Paper Shop''' | ||
+ | **5 Paper Press | ||
+ | **2 Flax Hammock | ||
+ | **20 Linen | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(P)'''Laboratory''' | ||
+ | **2 Barrel Vise | ||
+ | **1 Pigment Laboratory | ||
+ | **1 Barrel Grinder | ||
+ | **1 Chemistry Lab | ||
+ | **1 Scent Lab | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(Fire)'''Glass''' | ||
+ | **4 Soda Glass Benches | ||
+ | **4 Jewel Glass Benches | ||
+ | **8 Normal Glass Benches | ||
+ | **1 Fleet Furnace | ||
+ | **4 Firepits outside | ||
+ | **1 Glory Hole | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(Q)'''Papyrus Drying''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(R)'''8 Sheep Pens''' | ||
+ | **We keep each pen at 3 females and 3 males | ||
+ | **1 Chicken Coop | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(S)'''3 Dromedary Pens''' | ||
+ | **4 Greenhouses | ||
+ | **6 Flax Hammocks | ||
+ | **We keep the camels at 1 male to 4 females per pen, and 1500 straw. Camels need feeding with honey too. | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(T)'''Pet Shop''' | ||
+ | **Khefres Lockers | ||
+ | **Chest of honey for feeding the camels | ||
+ | |||
+ | *(Bee)'''Apiaries''' | ||
+ | **harvest no more than once per day if you have 0 speed | ||
− | ( | + | *(X)'''Conflict Shrine''', '''Voting Booth''', '''Welcome Banner''' and '''Essence of Harmony''' |
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− | ( | + | *(Y)'''Smelting Compound''' |
− | + | **Charcoal Hearth | |
− | + | **Charcoal Oven | |
− | + | **Gyration Cell | |
− | + | **Compression Furnace | |
− | + | **Blast Furnace | |
+ | **Carpentry Shop | ||
+ | **Anvil (with member access tools box) | ||
+ | **Mine Repairs Chest | ||
+ | **Improved Brick Racks x 4 | ||
+ | **Kitchen | ||
+ | **Deep well | ||
− | ( | + | *(Z)'''Hades''' |
− | + | **Warehouse for ore | |
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− | + | === [[Guild/Tariqah Ieb/Cornerstones|Cornerstones]] === | |
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− | ( | + | List of cornerstone donated by guild members (in case of absence). |
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− | + | === [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Mines|Mines]] === | |
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− | + | Our mines info is now on a [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Mines|separate page]]. | |
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− | + | === [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Beers|Beers]] === | |
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+ | Recipe page for [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Beers|beers]] since you can never have too much beer. | ||
− | + | === [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/tiles|Raeli Oven]]=== | |
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− | + | === [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Crematory|Crematory]] === | |
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− | + | Here is the diagram for quick reference. If you would like a more detailed guide please [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Crematory|Click Here]] | |
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− | + | [[Image:CremStart.png]] | |
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− | + | ===[[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Orchard|The Orchard]]=== | |
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+ | === [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Wood_Treatment|Wood Treatment]] === | ||
− | + | Recipe page for [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Wood_Treatment|Wood Treatment]]. | |
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+ | === [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Metal_Treatment|Metal Treatment]] === | ||
− | </ | + | <B>IMPORTANT!!</B> Please make sure you have [[Tongs]] on you so the [[Acid]] will not be lost when you finish treating the metal. This is almost certainly how we lost our first batch of acid. |
− | + | Recipe page for [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Metal_Treatment|Metal Treatment]]. | |
− | + | === Growing Papyrus === | |
Grow the papy along the purple line, I suggest 1 HF every 5 Cords for no more then 150cords. Then 10 minutes after planting the papywill appear 150 cords north | Grow the papy along the purple line, I suggest 1 HF every 5 Cords for no more then 150cords. Then 10 minutes after planting the papywill appear 150 cords north | ||
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[[Image:Papy_map1.jpg]] | [[Image:Papy_map1.jpg]] | ||
+ | == Guild Events == | ||
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+ | ===TI Weekly Events=== | ||
+ | |||
+ | Lucasdo and Spicy are thinking of running a weekly TI event dependent on the number of people interested. Currently we are planning to have the event each '''Sunday evening (Euro time)'''. If this time does not suit you and you are interested in joining the events please chat either Lucasdo or Spicy in game with the preferred time. Obviously we will try to accommodate as many people as possible and we would also like to keep it around the same time each week so that people will know when the events will be run. Below are just some of the ideas for events: | ||
+ | *Beer/Wine Tasting | ||
+ | *Digging | ||
+ | *Competition with Prizes | ||
+ | *Events to help fellow guild members progress through tests, (Veneries is one example) | ||
+ | *And lots more... | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''Please visit the [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Events|Events]] page if you are interested so we can get an idea on numbers, you wont need to commit to every week and we will have a sign up for each event so you can pick and choose which events you're interested in.''' | ||
+ | |||
+ | ''For more information on up and coming events please [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Events|Click Here]]'' | ||
+ | |||
+ | === Guild Event Pics === | ||
+ | |||
+ | Please link to pages of weddings etc here | ||
+ | * [[Photos|Sirian and Noreferti's events]] | ||
+ | * [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Duke_Nukem|Duke Nukem Forever Event]] | ||
+ | * [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Party|Kaa's birthday party]] | ||
+ | * [[Guilds/Tariqah_Ieb/Brussels|TI at the Brussels Meet]] | ||
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+ | {{languages}} | ||
[[Category:Guilds]]{{DEFAULTSORT:Tariqah Ieb}} | [[Category:Guilds]]{{DEFAULTSORT:Tariqah Ieb}} |
Latest revision as of 00:19, 14 February 2012
About Us
We're a home guild with a camp on the Mediterranean Sea in Adn, just north of S Thought. We have a mix of English and French speaking members. Our aim is to have fun and support each other in the game and we have a shared guild camp, with some members living in the camp and others in their personal camps nearby. We usually have several GUILD PROJECTS in progress for all members to join in with and there are always things you can do to help support the guild.
Our Guild Name
Tariqah is Arabic for the way, path, method.
Ieb is the Ancient Egyptian word for the heart, the soul.
Guild Ranks
We're trying to keep these simple ;)
- Elder - founder members of the guild
- Member - everyone else who we have got to know and who join in with guild chat/projects sometimes
- Initiate - new members of the guild that we're still getting to know
Guildies
Please click the link above for pics!
Camp Layout
We have separate compounds for each type of building. Each compound contains some temporary storage chests for members to use while working in that compound, as well as chests to store shared materials (eg nails for hackling rake replacement, firebricks for kilns, vegetable seeds chest etc). We have a storage compound for members to build chests in for their personal storage. We also have TI projects warehouses around the storage compound.
Note: There are also warehouses from other guilds in camp!
The compounds, animals and firepits are spaced well apart to try and minimise the effects of pollution, since we do not know how that works yet.
How To Help
We always have camp chores we need members to help with. Please join in with whatever guild projects and events you are interested in, we usually have several going on :) Click on the link above for more details of what we're working on.
Camp Map
- (House)Guild Hall
- (B)Flax Compound
- 1 Hackling Rake
- 1 Hand Loom
- 1 Upgraded Flax Gin
- 25 Small Distaffs
- 1 Watermine outside
- (C)Brick Making
- 50 Improved brick racks
- True Kilns
- (D)Horhouse BeerHouse
- (E)Wine Cellar
- (F)Kitchens
- 10 Kitchens
- Cooking Donations Warehouse
- Malting Trays
- Grain Oven
- (G)Pottery
- 24 Pottery Wheels
- 14 True Kilns
- 1 Vault Kiln
- 1 Pottery Deck
- (H)Carpentry Benches
- 16 Carpentry benches
- 2 Anvils and boxes with anvil tool sets
- (I)Tubs and Kettles
- 13 upgraded marble tubs
- 12 kettles
- (J)Storage
- Members' personal storage chests
- Warehouses for Guild projects right outside
- (K)Rock Cutting
- 5 Mason's Bench
- 10 Rock Saws
- Clinker Vat Charcoal
- Clinker Vat Petroleum
- (L)Furnaces and Reactories
- 1 Gyration Cell
- 2 Reactories
- 2 Gearbox Assembly Tables
- (M)Forges and Casting Boxes
- 2 Master's Forges
- 18 Student's Forges
- 2 Master's Casting Boxes
- 3 Student's Casting Boxes
- 1 Watermine outside
- (N)Charcoal Hut
- 4 Charcoal Hearths
- 3 Charcoal Ovens
- (O)The Paper Shop
- 5 Paper Press
- 2 Flax Hammock
- 20 Linen
- (P)Laboratory
- 2 Barrel Vise
- 1 Pigment Laboratory
- 1 Barrel Grinder
- 1 Chemistry Lab
- 1 Scent Lab
- (Fire)Glass
- 4 Soda Glass Benches
- 4 Jewel Glass Benches
- 8 Normal Glass Benches
- 1 Fleet Furnace
- 4 Firepits outside
- 1 Glory Hole
- (Q)Papyrus Drying
- (R)8 Sheep Pens
- We keep each pen at 3 females and 3 males
- 1 Chicken Coop
- (S)3 Dromedary Pens
- 4 Greenhouses
- 6 Flax Hammocks
- We keep the camels at 1 male to 4 females per pen, and 1500 straw. Camels need feeding with honey too.
- (T)Pet Shop
- Khefres Lockers
- Chest of honey for feeding the camels
- (Bee)Apiaries
- harvest no more than once per day if you have 0 speed
- (X)Conflict Shrine, Voting Booth, Welcome Banner and Essence of Harmony
- (Y)Smelting Compound
- Charcoal Hearth
- Charcoal Oven
- Gyration Cell
- Compression Furnace
- Blast Furnace
- Carpentry Shop
- Anvil (with member access tools box)
- Mine Repairs Chest
- Improved Brick Racks x 4
- Kitchen
- Deep well
- (Z)Hades
- Warehouse for ore
Cornerstones
List of cornerstone donated by guild members (in case of absence).
Mines
Our mines info is now on a separate page.
Beers
Recipe page for beers since you can never have too much beer.
Raeli Oven
Crematory
Here is the diagram for quick reference. If you would like a more detailed guide please Click Here
The Orchard
Wood Treatment
Recipe page for Wood Treatment.
Metal Treatment
IMPORTANT!! Please make sure you have Tongs on you so the Acid will not be lost when you finish treating the metal. This is almost certainly how we lost our first batch of acid.
Recipe page for Metal Treatment.
Growing Papyrus
Grow the papy along the purple line, I suggest 1 HF every 5 Cords for no more then 150cords. Then 10 minutes after planting the papywill appear 150 cords north of where you started. Generally the papy will grow along the red line. Check both sides of the nile, so should see yeild of around 5-6.
Guild Events
TI Weekly Events
Lucasdo and Spicy are thinking of running a weekly TI event dependent on the number of people interested. Currently we are planning to have the event each Sunday evening (Euro time). If this time does not suit you and you are interested in joining the events please chat either Lucasdo or Spicy in game with the preferred time. Obviously we will try to accommodate as many people as possible and we would also like to keep it around the same time each week so that people will know when the events will be run. Below are just some of the ideas for events:
- Beer/Wine Tasting
- Digging
- Competition with Prizes
- Events to help fellow guild members progress through tests, (Veneries is one example)
- And lots more...
Please visit the Events page if you are interested so we can get an idea on numbers, you wont need to commit to every week and we will have a sign up for each event so you can pick and choose which events you're interested in.
For more information on up and coming events please Click Here
Guild Event Pics
Please link to pages of weddings etc here