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'''If you would like to join the Heaven's Gate Obelisk Queue, feel free to add your name at the end of the current list and wait until people above you in list has passed
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'''If you would like to join the Heaven's Gate Obelisk Queue, feel free to add your name at the end of the current list and wait until the person above you in list has passed.
  
1-14-09 There's been a queue jumper....Mespho built on Akhet IV-3 size of 25. Which pushes things out for all in the list....Nestarion 1-14
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== Desert Obelisk Build Queue ==
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''Queue history notes moved to the [[Talk:Heaven's Gate Queue|Discussion]] page.''
  
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===Heaven's Gate Test of Obelisk Build Queue===
 
{| border="1"
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
!Cubits
 
!Cubits
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|Y1 Akhet III-23 1:02pm
 
|Y1 Akhet III-23 1:02pm
 
|Y1 Akhet III-30 1:03pm
 
|Y1 Akhet III-30 1:03pm
 +
|-
 +
|24
 +
|Jhnny
 +
| -
 +
| -
 +
|No
 +
| colspan="2" align="center" | Had to be rebuilt at 26 due to jumper at 25
 +
|-
 +
|25
 +
|Mespho
 +
| Jumped Queue
 +
| -
 +
| No
 +
| colspan="2" align="center" | Started but failed
 
|-
 
|-
 
|26
 
|26
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|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
 
|Y1 Akhet IV-4 6:10am Rebuilt
 
|Y1 Akhet IV-4 6:10am Rebuilt
|
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|Y1 Akhet IV-11 6:11am
 +
|-
 +
|27-39
 +
| colspan="6" align="center" | Opportunity lost forever due to jumper at 40
 +
|-
 +
|40
 +
| colspan="6" align="center" | A griefer jumped the overall queue showing complete disrespect for everyone else - <i>Failed</i>
 
|-
 
|-
 +
|41
 +
|Star
 +
| -
 +
| -
 +
| -
 +
|YI Akhet IV-11 10:33am
 +
|failed
 
|-
 
|-
|27
+
|42
 
|BobTryon
 
|BobTryon
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|No
 
|No
|
+
|YI Akhet IV-18 2:01AM
|
+
|failed
 +
|-
 +
|43
 +
|Star
 +
| -
 +
| -
 +
| -
 +
|Sometime after YI Akhet IV-18 2:01AM
 +
|Sometime before YI Akhet IV-23 10:31pm
 +
|-
 +
|44
 +
|BobTryon
 +
|Unknown
 +
|built
 +
|No
 +
|YI Akhet IV-23 10:31pm rebuilt after Star passed
 +
|YI Akhet IV-26 10:31pm
 
|-
 
|-
 
|-
 
|-
|28
+
|out
 
|[[User:Zoser|Zoser]]
 
|[[User:Zoser|Zoser]]
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
|Yes - Stocked in HG
+
|Not Now
 
|No
 
|No
|
+
| colspan="2" align="center" | <- pissed may not continue game
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|-
 
|-
|29
+
|45
 
|[[User:Rigel|Rigel]]
 
|[[User:Rigel|Rigel]]
|Unknown
+
|Built
 +
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|YI Akhet IV-27 9:03pm
|
+
|YI Akhet IV-30
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
|30
+
|46
 
|Amrissy
 
|Amrissy
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|yes
 
|yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Y1 Peret I-1 5.12am
|
+
|Y1 Peret I-4 5.01am
 
|-
 
|-
|31
+
|47
|AbsurdDoctor
 
|Unknown
 
|No
 
|No
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|32
 
 
|Ralomein
 
|Ralomein
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
|No
+
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Y1 Peret I-4 6.22am *see note above
|
+
|Y1 Peret I-7 6.27am
 
|-
 
|-
|33
+
|48
 
|[[User:Samadams|SamAdams]]
 
|[[User:Samadams|SamAdams]]
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
|No
+
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Y1 Peret I-8 2:52am
|
+
|Y1 Peret I-11 3:30am
 
|-
 
|-
|34
+
|49
 
|Mystivia
 
|Mystivia
|Unknown
+
|Built
|No
+
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Year 1, Peret I-11, 4:19am
|
+
|Year 1, Peret I-14, 4:19am
 
|-
 
|-
|35
+
|50
 
|Cynic
 
|Cynic
|Unknown
+
|Built
 +
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
| Year 1, Peret I-14, 8:56 am
|
+
| Year 1, Peret I-17, 8:56 am
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
|36
+
|51
|Caractacus
 
|Unknown
 
|No
 
|No
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|37
 
 
|[[User:BlueGrass | BlueGrass]]
 
|[[User:BlueGrass | BlueGrass]]
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Year 1, Peret I-17, 3:25am
|
+
|Year 1, Peret I-24, 3:33pm
 
|-
 
|-
|38
+
|54
 
|[[User:Katezinha | Katezinha]]
 
|[[User:Katezinha | Katezinha]]
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 +
|Yes
 
|No
 
|No
|No
+
|Year 1, Peret II-1, (unsure)
|
+
|Year 1, Peret II-8, 8:57pm
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
|39
+
|55
|[[User:Lokim | Lokim]]
+
|[[User:Lill| Lill]]
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Year 1, Peret II-8, 11:06pm
|
+
|Year 1, Peret II-16, 8:20am
 
|-
 
|-
|40
+
|56
|[[User:Am-Khaibitu | Am-Khaibitu]]
+
|[[User:Amel | Amel]]
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Year 1, Peret II-16, 9:02am
|
+
|Year 1, Peret II-23, 11:03am
 +
|-
 +
|57
 +
|DaSpozz
 +
|Built
 +
|Yes
 +
|Yes
 +
|Year 1, Peret II-26, 5.02am
 +
|passed
 +
|-
 +
|58
 +
|[[User:Mayanah | Mayanah]]
 +
|Built
 +
|Yes
 +
|Yes
 +
|Year 1, Peret III-4, 5:11am
 +
|Passed
 
|-
 
|-
|41
+
|59
|Melissa
+
|[[User:Decozupop | Decouzpop]]
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Year 1, Peret III-11, 2:51pm
|
+
|Passed
 
|-
 
|-
|42
+
|60
|[[User:Aurak | Aurak]]
+
|[[User:Isozupop | Isozupop]]
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 +
|Yes
 
|No
 
|No
|No
+
|Year 1, Peret III-18, 3:03 pm
|
+
|Passed
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
|43
+
|00
|Scofieldtep
+
|Rhosymedre
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
|No
+
|Please Skip me for now, I am not ready.
 
|No
 
|No
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
|44
+
|61
|Aberration
+
|nubiti
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
|No
+
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Year 1, Peret III-26, 9:47PM
|
+
|Passed
 
|-
 
|-
|45
+
|62
|DaSpozz
+
|Carrera
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
|
+
|Year 1, Peret IV-4, 1:47PM
|
+
|Passed
 
|-
 
|-
|46
+
|63
|Joos
+
|Julia
 
|Unknown
 
|Unknown
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Yes
 +
|Year 1, Peret IV-11, 2:53PM
 +
|Passed
 +
|-
 +
|64
 +
|Bisi
 +
|Built
 +
|Yes
 +
|Yes
 +
|Year 1, Peret IV-24, 4:39AM
 +
|Passed
 +
|-
 +
|65
 +
|Marial
 +
|Built
 +
|Yes
 +
|Yes
 +
|Year 1, Shemu II-5, 3:26PM
 +
|Passed
 +
|-
 +
|66
 +
|Hemlok
 +
|3 days
 +
|yes
 +
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
|47
+
|67
|Isirion
+
|???
|Unknown
+
|???
|Yes
+
|
|No
+
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
|48
+
|68
|[[User:Mayanah | Mayanah]]
+
|???
|Unknown
+
|???
|Yes
+
|
|No
+
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
|49
+
|69
|[[User:Decozupop | Decouzpop]]
+
|Neli
|Unknown
+
|Built
 +
|Yes
 +
|Yes
 +
|Year 2, Shemu III-28, 12:15PM
 +
|Passed
 +
|-
 +
|71
 +
|Dianess
 +
|Built
 +
|yes
 +
|yes
 +
|Year 3, Akhet IV-10, 11:19am
 +
|Passed
 +
|-
 +
|72
 +
|Amenuk
 +
|Built
 +
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Year 3, Peret II-9, 7:35pm
|
+
|Year 3, Peret II-16, 7:35pm
|
 
 
|-
 
|-
|50
+
|73
|[[User:Isozupop | Isozupop]]
+
|Ankhotep
|Unknown
+
|Built
 +
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Year 3, Peret II-16, 7:45pm
|
 
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
|51
+
|76
|[[User:Bourbon | Bourbon]]
+
|InambaGuum
|Unknown
+
|Built
 +
|Yes
 
|Yes
 
|Yes
|No
+
|Year 3, Shemu II-30, 8:20am
|
+
|Passed
|
+
|-
|-)
+
|-
 +
|}
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== Metallic Obelisk Build Queue==
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{|  border="3"  cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
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|-
 +
!Cubits !!Name !!Est. Build Time !! Materials Ready? !!Complete? !!Real Build date !!Test Pass date
 +
|-
 +
| 7 || Shebi || Built || Yes || Yes || Y1 Peret II-19 1:37AM || Y1 Peret III-3 1:37AM (Feb 17, 2009)
 +
|-
 +
| 8 || Turkeybone || Mon 2/16 || Yes || Yes|| Y1 Peret III-3 3:45PM (Feb 17, 2009) || Y1 Peret III-17 3:45PM (Feb 22, 2009)
 +
|-
 +
| 9 || Augusta || 2/22 || Yes || Yes || Y1 Peret III-17 4:30PM (Feb 22,2009) || Will gladly help next in line if I can
 +
|-
 +
| 10 || Amisi || 2/28 || Yes || Yes || Y1 Peret IV-2 8:21 AM (Feb 28, 2009) ||  Augusta is a Student of Architecture so I built to keep the line moving.
 +
|-
 +
| 11 || Omari || 3/5 || Yes || Yes || Y1 Peret iv-16 9:20 am (Mar 5, 2009) || Passed (Mar 11, 2009)
 +
|-
 +
| 12 || Kuzgun || 3/11 || Yes || Yes || Y1 Shemu i-3 6:11 am (Mar 12, 2009) || Passed (Mar 17, 2009)
 +
|-
 +
| 13 || Arabu|| 3/18 || Yes|| Yes || Y1 Shemu I-20 5:21 pm (Mar 18, 2009) || Passed (Mar 24, 2009)
 +
|-
 +
|14 || Dionaea ||8/11 || Yes || Yes || Y2 Shemu II-2 1:38AM (Aug 6, 2009) || Passed
 +
|}
 +
 
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== Cut Stone Obelisk Build Queue==
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{|  border="3"  cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
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|-
 +
!Cubits !!Name !!Est. Build Time !! Materials Ready? !!Complete? !!Real Build date !!Test Pass date
 +
|-
 +
| 7 || Taffer || Built || yes || was jumped by BL|| Year1, peret III-18 2:28am (feb 23rd 00:01am EST) || approx 7 1/2 real life days?
 +
|-
 +
|9 || Hilly  || March 18/09|| yes || yes || Year 1, Shemu I-18, 9:27AM,  (March 18/09) || Passed March 25/09
 +
|-
 +
|10 || Nighthawk || now || yes || yes || Year 1, Shemu II-24, 4:58PM,  (March 31st, 6:19PM +8 GMT) || year 1, Shemu III-15, 4:58pm  (April 8th, 2009 1900PST
 +
|-
 +
|11 || Hill || April 6/09 || yes || yes || Year 1,Shemu III-17,8pm (April 09/09 || yes April 17/09
 +
|-
 +
|12 || Mandisa || May 7/09 || yes || yes || Year 2,Akhet II-2,11am (May 7/09) || Passed!  (Do you really care when?)
 +
|-
 +
|13 || Antigona || June 11/09 || yes || yes ||  Year 2, Peret I-5, 3:18am (June 11/09) || passed :-)
 +
|-
 +
|15 || RaasAlHayya || September 13/09 || yes || yes ||  Year 3, Akhet I-14, 11:17 pm (September 13/09) || Passed! September 21/09
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
== Hardwood Obelisk Build Queue==
 +
{|  border="3"  cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
 +
|-
 +
!Cubits !!Name !!Est. Build Time !! Materials Ready? !!Complete? !!Real Build date !!Test Pass date
 +
|-
 +
| 7 || Tula || Built || yes || passed|| Year1, peret III-21 12:05am (feb 24th 03:01am EST) || passed
 +
|-
 +
| 10 || PiersaCallahan || Built || yes  || yes || Year1, Shemu II-27, 1:30am (April 02 th 1:00 am) || Shemu III-25(April 12)
 +
|-
 +
| 11 || Vilja || Built || yes  || passed|| Year1, Shemu III-26, 9:29pm (April 13th 10:40 am CET)  || passed
 +
|-
 +
| 12 || Zotep || April 26/09 || Yes || Yes || Year 2, Akhet I-2, 2:17PM (April 26 13:40 PDT)  ||  Akhet II-1 (May 7)
 +
|-
 +
| 13 || TreekaSu  || May 7/09 || Yes  || Yes || Year 2, Akhet II-1, 12:27PM (May 7 11:40 CDT)  || Akhet II-30 (May 18)
 +
|-
 +
|}
 +
 
 +
== Crystal Obelisk Queue ==
 +
{| border="3" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"
 +
|-
 +
!Cubits !!Name !!Est Build Time !!Materials Ready? !!Completed? !!Real Build Date !!Test Pass Date
 +
|-
 +
| 9 || Rhiannae || Built || Yes || Passed || Year 3 Peret II-16 (11-9-09) || Year 3 Peret III-28(11-24-09)
 +
|-
 +
| 10 || Odysseus || Year 3 Peret III-28(11-24-09) || Yes || Yes || Peret IV-4(11-25-09) || Shemu V-16(12-10-09)
 +
|-
 +
| 11 || Alibabba || When Odysseus passes || Yes || No || ? || ?
 +
|-
 +
| 12 || Pascalita || When Alibabba passes || Yes || No || ? || ?
 +
|-
 +
|}

Latest revision as of 15:42, 1 January 2010

If you would like to join the Heaven's Gate Obelisk Queue, feel free to add your name at the end of the current list and wait until the person above you in list has passed.

Desert Obelisk Build Queue

Queue history notes moved to the Discussion page.

Cubits Name Est. Build Time Materials Ready? Complete? Real Build date Test Pass date
10 RoyCallahan Built Yes Yes Y1 Akhet I-20 Y1 Akhet I-27
17 Kalar Built Yes No Y1 Akhet II-5 Y1 Akhet II-12
18 Duncan Built Yes Yes Y1 Akhet II-12 11:41pm Y1 Akhet II-19 11:41pm
19 Delamore Built Yes Yes Y1 Akhet II-22 9:20AM Y1 Akhet II-29 9:20AM
20 Sinesh Built Yes Yes Y1 Akhet II-30 4:22PM Y1 Akhet III-7 4:22PM
21 Rand Built Yes Yes Y1 Akhet III-7 6:14PM Y1 Akhet III-14 6:14PM
22 Nestarion Unknown Yes Yes Akhet III-16 11:07AM Akhet III-23 11:07AM
23 Sebine Built Yes Yes Y1 Akhet III-23 1:02pm Y1 Akhet III-30 1:03pm
24 Jhnny - - No Had to be rebuilt at 26 due to jumper at 25
25 Mespho Jumped Queue - No Started but failed
26 Jhnny Unknown Yes Yes Y1 Akhet IV-4 6:10am Rebuilt Y1 Akhet IV-11 6:11am
27-39 Opportunity lost forever due to jumper at 40
40 A griefer jumped the overall queue showing complete disrespect for everyone else - Failed
41 Star - - - YI Akhet IV-11 10:33am failed
42 BobTryon Unknown Yes No YI Akhet IV-18 2:01AM failed
43 Star - - - Sometime after YI Akhet IV-18 2:01AM Sometime before YI Akhet IV-23 10:31pm
44 BobTryon Unknown built No YI Akhet IV-23 10:31pm rebuilt after Star passed YI Akhet IV-26 10:31pm
out Zoser Unknown Not Now No <- pissed may not continue game
45 Rigel Built Yes Yes YI Akhet IV-27 9:03pm YI Akhet IV-30
46 Amrissy Unknown yes Yes Y1 Peret I-1 5.12am Y1 Peret I-4 5.01am
47 Ralomein Unknown Yes Yes Y1 Peret I-4 6.22am *see note above Y1 Peret I-7 6.27am
48 SamAdams Unknown Yes Yes Y1 Peret I-8 2:52am Y1 Peret I-11 3:30am
49 Mystivia Built Yes Yes Year 1, Peret I-11, 4:19am Year 1, Peret I-14, 4:19am
50 Cynic Built Yes Yes Year 1, Peret I-14, 8:56 am Year 1, Peret I-17, 8:56 am
51 BlueGrass Unknown Yes Yes Year 1, Peret I-17, 3:25am Year 1, Peret I-24, 3:33pm
54 Katezinha Unknown Yes No Year 1, Peret II-1, (unsure) Year 1, Peret II-8, 8:57pm
55 Lill Unknown Yes Yes Year 1, Peret II-8, 11:06pm Year 1, Peret II-16, 8:20am
56 Amel Unknown Yes Yes Year 1, Peret II-16, 9:02am Year 1, Peret II-23, 11:03am
57 DaSpozz Built Yes Yes Year 1, Peret II-26, 5.02am passed
58 Mayanah Built Yes Yes Year 1, Peret III-4, 5:11am Passed
59 Decouzpop Unknown Yes Yes Year 1, Peret III-11, 2:51pm Passed
60 Isozupop Unknown Yes No Year 1, Peret III-18, 3:03 pm Passed
00 Rhosymedre Unknown Please Skip me for now, I am not ready. No
61 nubiti Unknown Yes Yes Year 1, Peret III-26, 9:47PM Passed
62 Carrera Unknown Yes Yes Year 1, Peret IV-4, 1:47PM Passed
63 Julia Unknown Yes Yes Year 1, Peret IV-11, 2:53PM Passed
64 Bisi Built Yes Yes Year 1, Peret IV-24, 4:39AM Passed
65 Marial Built Yes Yes Year 1, Shemu II-5, 3:26PM Passed
66 Hemlok 3 days yes
67 ??? ???
68 ??? ???
69 Neli Built Yes Yes Year 2, Shemu III-28, 12:15PM Passed
71 Dianess Built yes yes Year 3, Akhet IV-10, 11:19am Passed
72 Amenuk Built Yes Yes Year 3, Peret II-9, 7:35pm Year 3, Peret II-16, 7:35pm
73 Ankhotep Built Yes Yes Year 3, Peret II-16, 7:45pm
76 InambaGuum Built Yes Yes Year 3, Shemu II-30, 8:20am Passed

Metallic Obelisk Build Queue

Cubits Name Est. Build Time Materials Ready? Complete? Real Build date Test Pass date
7 Shebi Built Yes Yes Y1 Peret II-19 1:37AM Y1 Peret III-3 1:37AM (Feb 17, 2009)
8 Turkeybone Mon 2/16 Yes Yes Y1 Peret III-3 3:45PM (Feb 17, 2009) Y1 Peret III-17 3:45PM (Feb 22, 2009)
9 Augusta 2/22 Yes Yes Y1 Peret III-17 4:30PM (Feb 22,2009) Will gladly help next in line if I can
10 Amisi 2/28 Yes Yes Y1 Peret IV-2 8:21 AM (Feb 28, 2009) Augusta is a Student of Architecture so I built to keep the line moving.
11 Omari 3/5 Yes Yes Y1 Peret iv-16 9:20 am (Mar 5, 2009) Passed (Mar 11, 2009)
12 Kuzgun 3/11 Yes Yes Y1 Shemu i-3 6:11 am (Mar 12, 2009) Passed (Mar 17, 2009)
13 Arabu 3/18 Yes Yes Y1 Shemu I-20 5:21 pm (Mar 18, 2009) Passed (Mar 24, 2009)
14 Dionaea 8/11 Yes Yes Y2 Shemu II-2 1:38AM (Aug 6, 2009) Passed

Cut Stone Obelisk Build Queue

Cubits Name Est. Build Time Materials Ready? Complete? Real Build date Test Pass date
7 Taffer Built yes was jumped by BL Year1, peret III-18 2:28am (feb 23rd 00:01am EST) approx 7 1/2 real life days?
9 Hilly March 18/09 yes yes Year 1, Shemu I-18, 9:27AM, (March 18/09) Passed March 25/09
10 Nighthawk now yes yes Year 1, Shemu II-24, 4:58PM, (March 31st, 6:19PM +8 GMT) year 1, Shemu III-15, 4:58pm (April 8th, 2009 1900PST
11 Hill April 6/09 yes yes Year 1,Shemu III-17,8pm (April 09/09 yes April 17/09
12 Mandisa May 7/09 yes yes Year 2,Akhet II-2,11am (May 7/09) Passed! (Do you really care when?)
13 Antigona June 11/09 yes yes Year 2, Peret I-5, 3:18am (June 11/09) passed :-)
15 RaasAlHayya September 13/09 yes yes Year 3, Akhet I-14, 11:17 pm (September 13/09) Passed! September 21/09

Hardwood Obelisk Build Queue

Cubits Name Est. Build Time Materials Ready? Complete? Real Build date Test Pass date
7 Tula Built yes passed Year1, peret III-21 12:05am (feb 24th 03:01am EST) passed
10 PiersaCallahan Built yes yes Year1, Shemu II-27, 1:30am (April 02 th 1:00 am) Shemu III-25(April 12)
11 Vilja Built yes passed Year1, Shemu III-26, 9:29pm (April 13th 10:40 am CET) passed
12 Zotep April 26/09 Yes Yes Year 2, Akhet I-2, 2:17PM (April 26 13:40 PDT) Akhet II-1 (May 7)
13 TreekaSu May 7/09 Yes Yes Year 2, Akhet II-1, 12:27PM (May 7 11:40 CDT) Akhet II-30 (May 18)

Crystal Obelisk Queue

Cubits Name Est Build Time Materials Ready? Completed? Real Build Date Test Pass Date
9 Rhiannae Built Yes Passed Year 3 Peret II-16 (11-9-09) Year 3 Peret III-28(11-24-09)
10 Odysseus Year 3 Peret III-28(11-24-09) Yes Yes Peret IV-4(11-25-09) Shemu V-16(12-10-09)
11 Alibabba When Odysseus passes Yes No ? ?
12 Pascalita When Alibabba passes Yes No ? ?