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Right now, the skills pages are mostly at the root level ("Pottery"). However, there are also some that were created as subpages under Skills ("Skills/Pottery"). We should settle on one method and make sure everything is consistent. I think keeping it flat would be best, in line with the other large topics (techs, resources, buildings, etc.) That may mean coming up with a standard for guide pages that want to use the same name, however. In other words, if "Fishing" is the skill page, we need to decide how to name the "fishing guide" page, should one be developed again. -- [[User:Shebi|Shebi]] 14:38, 17 December 2008 (EST) | Right now, the skills pages are mostly at the root level ("Pottery"). However, there are also some that were created as subpages under Skills ("Skills/Pottery"). We should settle on one method and make sure everything is consistent. I think keeping it flat would be best, in line with the other large topics (techs, resources, buildings, etc.) That may mean coming up with a standard for guide pages that want to use the same name, however. In other words, if "Fishing" is the skill page, we need to decide how to name the "fishing guide" page, should one be developed again. -- [[User:Shebi|Shebi]] 14:38, 17 December 2008 (EST) | ||
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| + | IMO, it should be properly treed - Skills/Pottery for Pottery, Techs/Beekeeping for Beekeeping, Stats/Strength for Strength, and so on. --[[User:Nekojin|Nekojin]] 15:08, 17 December 2008 (EST) | ||
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| + | Doesn't mean I necessarily agree, but it does simplify a lot of things (like Category links not needed a default sort or piped link name) to keep it flat. -- [[User:Shebi|Shebi]] 15:39, 17 December 2008 (EST) | ||
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| + | Good point. There shouldn't be much in the way of conflicting namespaced pages for such a narrowly-focused Wiki. --[[User:Nekojin|Nekojin]] 17:48, 17 December 2008 (EST) | ||
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| + | == Skills table == | ||
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| + | Can anyone easily understand the Skills Table? Or is it just me? perhaps something like this...? | ||
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| + | Actually that table is such a mess I wont give an example, but would ask a border to be used if and where possible. YIKES! ~[[Users:Seba|Seba]] | ||
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| + | I'll try fixing it [[User:Minos|Minos]] 01:34, 24 December 2008 (EST) | ||
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| + | Ok I mostly fixed it. Added borders and removed useless cells, the table is skinned with the class mw_metadata. ( It's in the page's css ) I also moved the keys from the table to the bottom of it. That was making a lot of information unreadable, plus the legend/keys is always at the bottom of a graph or table. | ||
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| + | You'll notice I added some <!--l--> & <!--req--> comments in all empty cells. That was an attempt to make editing easier. It should have been <!--0--> for level 0, <!--2--> for level 2, etc... That would have taken a lot time. Well feel free to modify that, as long as its html comments no one will see them on the page. [[User:Minos|Minos]] 02:07, 24 December 2008 (EST) | ||
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| + | You may also want to take a look at the [[Levels]] page. Just please don't put any tables on there. -- [[User:Shebi|Shebi]] 03:29, 24 December 2008 (EST) | ||
Latest revision as of 08:29, 24 December 2008
Right now, the skills pages are mostly at the root level ("Pottery"). However, there are also some that were created as subpages under Skills ("Skills/Pottery"). We should settle on one method and make sure everything is consistent. I think keeping it flat would be best, in line with the other large topics (techs, resources, buildings, etc.) That may mean coming up with a standard for guide pages that want to use the same name, however. In other words, if "Fishing" is the skill page, we need to decide how to name the "fishing guide" page, should one be developed again. -- Shebi 14:38, 17 December 2008 (EST)
IMO, it should be properly treed - Skills/Pottery for Pottery, Techs/Beekeeping for Beekeeping, Stats/Strength for Strength, and so on. --Nekojin 15:08, 17 December 2008 (EST)
From the MediaWiki help pages:
People instinctively think hierarchically when trying to organise information, so it may be tempting to use subpages all the time. However, subpages can be over-used. Remember that having a page name with a slash will generally make the name longer, harder to remember, and thus more difficult to link to. Some people find it more elegant to keep page naming simple. By sticking to a flat naming structure, with a manually maintained web of wiki links, a structure will emerge organically (and this can include a pseudo-hierarchy).
Doesn't mean I necessarily agree, but it does simplify a lot of things (like Category links not needed a default sort or piped link name) to keep it flat. -- Shebi 15:39, 17 December 2008 (EST)
Good point. There shouldn't be much in the way of conflicting namespaced pages for such a narrowly-focused Wiki. --Nekojin 17:48, 17 December 2008 (EST)
Skills table
Can anyone easily understand the Skills Table? Or is it just me? perhaps something like this...?
Actually that table is such a mess I wont give an example, but would ask a border to be used if and where possible. YIKES! ~Seba
I'll try fixing it Minos 01:34, 24 December 2008 (EST)
Ok I mostly fixed it. Added borders and removed useless cells, the table is skinned with the class mw_metadata. ( It's in the page's css ) I also moved the keys from the table to the bottom of it. That was making a lot of information unreadable, plus the legend/keys is always at the bottom of a graph or table.
You'll notice I added some & comments in all empty cells. That was an attempt to make editing easier. It should have been for level 0, for level 2, etc... That would have taken a lot time. Well feel free to modify that, as long as its html comments no one will see them on the page. Minos 02:07, 24 December 2008 (EST)
You may also want to take a look at the Levels page. Just please don't put any tables on there. -- Shebi 03:29, 24 December 2008 (EST)
