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| − | -- I have some earlier chat with YendorHut, MrFubar, and nezbia, but I'm holding off posting it until the others have OK'd the post (it's not that much) --
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| − | Arame: Howdy there, all</br>
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| − | nezbia: Hello Arame!</br>
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| − | Arame: Catching up on some of the chat so far - with everyone's consent, I'll start logging that as well, so we don't lose any to the foul scroll-away.</br>
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| − | Arame: For the record, I've probably got the strongest name recognition, but that doesn't necessarily make me the strongest leader, to MrFubar's comment. Burying my head in spreadsheets for a week or two doesn't necessarily qualify as leadership ;)</br>
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| − | nezbia: Lol... understood :)</br>
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| − | Arame: I also didn't catch who else is in this round - scrolled away from me!</br>
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| − | nezbia: Umm... i know one is nunzia</br>
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| − | Arame: Thank ya - I'm sure the others will pop in later today as well, so we'll find out soon enough.</br>
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| − | nezbia: Most I don't know but have seen around on an occasion</br>
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| − | nezbia: Yes, I feel a little intimidated because I am the newest person here :)</br>
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| − | Arame: I definitely recognize a couple of the names from E! or from around Egypt, yes.</br>
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| − | nezbia: this is my first tale... and the shortest time in egypt compared you ya'll! ;)</br>
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| − | Arame: Eh, don't be too intimidated. Name recognitiion is helpful for the final election, but not necessarily the end-all be-all.</br>
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| − | nezbia: I understand.... I guess I fear that this being a popularity test versus who is best for the position</br>
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| − | Arame: Well, it partly is. There are going to be some people that will vote based on "Hey, I've heard of that guy, and not in a bad way." - but most people (I hope) are going to read the debates and choose the best candidate.</br>
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| − | nezbia: Yes, I think you always have that... I am not in it for popularity... :)</br>
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| − | Arame: All that said, I am running for this seriously (already passed KM).</br>
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| − | nezbia: I could put out a campaign... </br>
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| − | nezbia: but... they are words... I would rather show people how I am</br>
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| − | nezbia: and I hope those that i do come in contact with.. have seen that</br>
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| − | Arame: Yeah, that's always the difficult part, putting the how into words in these debates.</br>
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| − | Arame: FYI - I'm just on lunch - I operate at GMT-4 right now.</br>
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| − | Arame: So, would you like to talk about why we each want to be DP or feel that we'd be good for the role? I have a limited timeframe, but we can start that discussion, if you'd like.</br>
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| − | nezbia: That is fine Arame</br>
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| − | nezbia: I know for me... dp is a title</br>
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| − | nezbia: I lead by example at all times</br>
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| − | nezbia: I am honest, I don't judge and believe I am fair</br>
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| − | Arame: All good qualities for a DP to have.</br>
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| − | nezbia: As to why I want to be dp... I believe that as a leader .. they should be able to follow</br>
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| − | nezbia: be open</br>
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| − | nezbia: and most of all... </br>
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| − | nezbia: have respect for t hemselves first... so they can better respect others</br>
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| − | nezbia: I can say.. I have been in rl leadership roles... </br>
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| − | nezbia: and to vote for me... but I want to gain the trust of the players in the group</br>
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| − | nezbia: Show them.. I am not full of bull and would honestly do the best job possible! :)</br>
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| − | nezbia: I am not well known... however, I am well liked :)</br>
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| − | nezbia: Those who know me... they are the one's who encouraged me to run for dp</br>
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| − | Arame: Great, that's a good sign!</br>
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| − | nezbia: don't get me wrong.. :)</br>
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| − | nezbia: I am the biggest sweetheart around... but i don't tolerate disrespect either</br>
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| − | Arame: I'm always torn as to whether to go after DP myself - it's a lot of responsibility to take on, and part of my approach to Egypt is that it *is* a game.</br>
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| − | nezbia: I have already come across someone in my guild that was kicked out for it...</br>
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| − | nezbia: It is a game! :) and it is a big responsibility</br>
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| − | Arame: But, because we're dealing with other RL people, there's more of a commitment than a "normal"? game.</br>
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| − | nezbia: And yes.. knowing who to vote for... is a problem</br>
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| − | nezbia: Yes I agree.</br>
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| − | nezbia: What I find myself doing is asking those I know about the dp caniddates</br>
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| − | nezbia: what do they know of them... what kind of person are they</br>
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| − | Arame: Good approach to take, yes.</br>
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| − | nezbia: I know anyone can say anything...</br>
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| − | nezbia: but it doesn't always come from there heart</br>
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| − | nezbia: For me.. I speak from the heart.. what you see is what you get :)</br>
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| − | Arame: Right on! I'll admit, I have a cynicism filter on most of my chat - I am naturally cynical, but I keep it in check in chats & such.</br>
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| − | Arame: (and you don't want to drive in a car with me, I'm loud & obnoxious, with the windows up!!)</br>
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| − | nezbia: lol</br>
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| − | Arame: As far as myself and DP is concerned, I see the DP as having a number of potential roles in Egypt - and I say potential, because not every DP will fit every role.</br>
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| − | nezbia: nod</br>
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| − | Arame: DP as leader - someone who organizes events and activities (Rabble is the best example of this in Egypt, I think).</br>
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| − | Arame: DP as mediator - someone who helps to resolve conflicts. This usually tends to be more low-key.</br>
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| − | nezbia: nod</br>
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| − | Arame: DP as a figurehead - the title itself suggests a certain level of confidence Egypt-wide in the person, so their word might count for more in a discussion.</br>
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| − | Arame: And DP as mentor - someone who really helps out new people, or helps people achieve goals that they might be struggling with.</br>
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| − | Arame: I'm leaving out DP as disciplinarian - I don't think it's a very valid role for the DP, even though the ban is what many focus on.</br>
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| − | nezbia: It is... </br>
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| − | nezbia: I believe it does go deeper than that .. you are an expample of a true citizen</br>
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| − | Arame: As far as my suitability - I'm a decent leader, although I keep it fairly localized. I organized a pilgrimage (with friends and with strangers-now-friends). I've organized a pyramid-build, but with a small group of people.</br>
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| − | Arame: With mentor, I'm probably better at helping established people than mentoring new people - I've helped a lot of people with resin for ovens, and I helped some of the early silk-farmers with mats for more farms (figuring the more the better). I give assistance to new people in regional when they ask, but I don't really go out of my way to chase mentoring opportunities.</br>
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| − | nezbia: I do not have the background most of you all do, however, with me being new to the game.. it gives egypt a freshe pair of eyes! :)</br>
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| − | Arame: Very true - and I only played a bit of T3, so I'm not *that* experienced with the game. I rely on my guildmates, frequently, to answer questions - especially about advanced techs.</br>
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| − | nezbia: Part of being a leader is admitting you don't know all</br>
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| − | nezbia: I will be the first person to ask for help or if I don't know to let someone know I don't know but i will get the answer for them</br>
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| − | Arame: From a figurehead perspective, I think I've already got a certain "status" (probably not the right word I'm looking for), so that aspect wouldn't change much, I'd think.</br>
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| − | nezbia: the only status i have here .. is i am the only person who met players before becoming one! :)</br>
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| − | Arame: LOL</br>
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| − | nezbia: I was at the meet in pgh... so I met a lot of them... :)</br>
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| − | nezbia: that was how I ended up here </br>
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| − | Arame: I saw that you were in the player meet guild! That's an advantage in and of itself :)</br>
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| − | nezbia: Lol... they were just happy i didn't kick them out!! lol</br>
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| − | nezbia: j/k</br>
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| − | Arame: lol</br>
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| − | nezbia: Naw.. they were a good bunch of people... </br>
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| − | nezbia: I loved talking with them..</br>
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| − | Arame: How did you happen to go to the Meet?</br>
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| − | nezbia: It was at the hotel I work at..</br>
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| − | nezbia: I met a few who showed up before the meet started...</br>
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| − | Arame: Ah, cool - that explains the "kick them out"! I'm slow today!</br>
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| − | nezbia: then... ended up meeting them all! :)</br>
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| − | nezbia: Yes.. I am security there! :)</br>
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| − | Arame: Excellent. I used to do some bouncing on the weekends, but not sure that's even in the same ballpark.</br>
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| − | nezbia: In a way... our job is to keep order.. :)</br>
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| − | Arame: Yepper - stop problems before they start!</br>
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| − | nezbia: Exactly! :)</br>
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| − | Arame: The mediator role, though, to touch on that, is the toughest to prove out in-game. I imagine you do deal with that quite a bit through your job, though.</br>
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| − | Arame: I'm a software engineer, so it's not actively a big part of my everyday life.</br>
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| − | Arame: I can only say that I'm good at balancing both sides and understanding different perspectives, especially in things like the obelisk queue.</br>
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| − | Arame: Sometimes you have to agree to disagree, but convincing others of that is where the real challenge comes into play.</br>
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| − | Arame: (and if I had an easy answer for that one, I'd have used it already!!)</br>
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| − | nezbia: Yes.. to find a reasonable solution is not always easy</br>
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| − | nezbia: conflict resolution is not for everyone</br>
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| − | nezbia: I happen to be good at ... that is why i do what i do</br>
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| − | Arame: Very nice</br>
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| − | nezbia: I can diffuse almost any situation...</br>
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| − | nezbia: and come to a resolution</br>
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| − | nezbia: to where everyone is appeased</br>
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| − | nezbia: but don't have a problme asking people to leave either! :)</br>
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| − | Arame: LOL</br>
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| − | Arame: I do want to hear a little more about the in-guild problem you mentioned earlier, and how you handled that situation. . . but, I need to get back to RL here.</br>
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| − | nezbia: no problem.. I am sure I will catch you at some point of the next couple of days</br>
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| − | Arame: Before I run off - do you mind if I log this chat where everyone else can get to it? Makes it a bit easier to communicate with everyone on different timezones, etc.</br>
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| − | nezbia: That is fine... :) It has been a pleasure! :)</br>
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| − | Arame: Pleasure's mine :)</br>
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| − | Arame: I'll drop that @ User:Arame/TempChat (unless someone has a better spot for it). Feel free to /copy from here and add to it (please) when I'm not about.</br>
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