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Revision as of 00:20, 9 September 2009
Funerary Temple
Tiles Used:
2443 Alice Blue 1596 Antique White 1170 Aquamarine 2343 Azure 743 Beige 1544 Bisque 1552 Black 397 Blanched Almond 701 Blue 2235 Blue Violet 2143 Brown 2265 Burly Wood 1 Cadet Blue 686 Carrot 637 Chocolate 688 Coral 2403 Cornflower Blue 741 Crimson 814 Dark Blue 2475 Dark Cyan 856 Dark Golden Rod 1048 Dark Gray 2401 Dark Green 401 Dark Khaki 2443 Dark Magenta 663 Dark Olive Green 2443 Dark Orchid 1734 Dark Red 358 Dark Salmon 1666 Dark Sea Green 2385 Dark Slate Blue 1704 Dark Slate Gray 1065 Dark Turquoise 993 Dark Violet 201 Deep Sky Blue 897 Dim Gray 1453 Dodger Blue 1743 Feldspar 1226 Fire Brick 1114 Floral White 1609 Forest Green 1497 Gainsboro 1381 Ghost White 2443 Golden Rod 2369 Gray 752 Honey Dew 2443 Hot Pink 1924 Indian Red 1482 Indigo 343 Khaki 1941 Lavender 2421 Lavender Blush 1529 Light Blue 528 Light Coral 819 Light Cyan 1491 Light Golden Rod Yellow 1940 Light Green 851 Light Grey 2443 Light Pink 688 Light Salmon 1533 Light Sea Green 2138 Light Sky Blue 2443 Light Slate Blue 2443 Light Slate Gray 877 Light Steel Blue 827 Lime Green 1825 Linen 2401 Maroon 1436 Medium Aqua Marine 1069 Medium Blue 2442 Medium Orchid 1757 Medium Purple 2443 Medium Sea Green 1294 Medium Slate Blue 51 Medium Spring Green 2483 Medium Turquoise 2308 Medium Violet Red 558 Midnight Blue 2488 Mint Cream 1049 Misty Rose 2443 Moccasin 701 Navy 815 Old Lace 1130 Olive 1692 Olive Drab 637 Orange Red 2443 Orchid 359 Pale Golden Rod 2176 Pale Green 1105 Pale Turquoise 946 Pale Violet Red 686 Peach Puff 845 Peru 777 Pink 2418 Plum 1701 Powder Blue 2080 Purple 743 Rosy Brown 2443 Royal Blue 1884 Saddle Brown 840 Salmon 2443 Sea Green 2443 Sea Shell 567 Sienna 2443 Silver 1007 Sky Blue 424 Slate Blue 1725 Snow 2443 Steel Blue 1449 Tan 2484 Teal 1390 Thistle 2443 Tomato 840 Turquoise 1143 Violet Red 1601 Wheat 2443 White 918 White Smoke 968 Yellow Green
Flax Solvent data
Ariella#5 NG/OE 3 0 1 2 1 (Cross #17-20 3 flax genes on left)
- expected length 32-34
- ORGR OYGR RRRG GYRK YGYG RYRR ROYG RRGG RRYO GYOR YOOY YGRR RGRG GYGY RGYG RGGR KORG YRRR YGYO
- genome: KORGRGYGYGY|G|YORYRRRGGROYGRRYOOYGYRK, length 33
Default 5 weeds - 2 weeds(2 OR) and -2 weeds(3 Flax or twice GYGYGY)
Default -1 water +3 water(3 Flax) or possible default 0 + 2GYGYGY
GYGYGYGY = 3 flax
Ariella#8 OE/NG 2 1 1 2 0 (Cross #17-20 rotten genes on right)
- expected length 32-34
- RYYO OYYO RRGY GYOR 2YYRG 2GYGY ORRK RGYO ORYY ORRG RGYG KRYY YOGY 2GRGY OGYG
- genome: KRYYOGYGYO|R|R|GYGYGYGRGYORYYRGROYYORRK, length 34 (R added) (if old theory is correct, this would be 3 flax, so the shortened genome is probably the right one)
- or genome: KRYYOGYGYORR|GYGYGRGYORYYRGROYYORRK, length 32 (gene dropped)
- other combos would be too long or too short (presuming baby is average length with gene added or dropped)
- flax: 2(GYGY)
- rotten flax: 1(RRGY)
- seeds: 1(RO)
- weeds: 5(default) - 3(OR) - 1(2 flax - 1) = 1 BUT WE HAVE 2
- we might conclude: weeds is not dimished by (# flax -1) but by (# of GYGYGY strings) resulting in 5 - 3 - 0 = 2
- water: -1(default) + 2(flax) - 0(ROGY) = 1 BUT WE HAVE 0
- we might conclude: hard to tell yet, could be add of(# of GYGYGY strings) so that GYGYGY converts a weed to water resulting in -1 + 0 = -1 thus 0; also would explain why high flax producers still can have 0 water like seen in Tale 3; would put the ROGY which was uncertain still in big doubt
Tedra #297 4 3 6 1 0 Flax/Rotten/Seeds/Weed/Water
7GYRR 5YGYY ROGY 5GYGY 6YROK 4OROY RRRG 3YRRG OROR YORR 2GYOR 2ROYR 4RORO 2RGYG 3RRGY YRRR OROO 4YGYR ORRG 2KRRO YGYG 2GYYG 3OORO 3OGYG 2RGYR 2YGYO RROG Need ROO?(probably R) OYR?(probably O or R ?YRO(probably G or O) ?OOR(probably R) YYG?(expecting Y)
- genome: KRROGYGY G|R|Y ... RG|YG|RO YROK
R|Y GYRR G|R O|R|Y GYGYYG YY|YR|YG|YO O|R OROYR OK|RG|RR R|Y GYRRRGY G|R O|R ORORO O|R|Y O|R|Y GYGYORRGY G|R O|R|Y RRGYGY G|R|Y O|R OROO RO O|R|Y O|R OR OORO O|R|Y O|Y|R GYGYRR G|R O|R|Y GYGYGY G|R|Y
RGYG GYGY YGYG KRRO GYGY RROG RGYR YGYR ROGY YRRR GYRR OGYG RRRG YRRG OROO GYGY YGYO RRGY RRGY OORO GYOR YGYY OROR YORR GYYG RORO ORRG OROY RRGY ROYR RGYG or RGYR YROK
- the OK at end indicates there has been a full left part taken once in ascendents, since NE and NG do not have OK at end, unless 2 genes of NG were dropped in history (a conclusion that helps us no further)
- we expect: 4 GYGY, 3 RRGY, 6 RO (4 RO's certain from tests), 4 OR (3 OR's certain from tests) and/or GYGYGY, max 1 GYGYGY (unless ROGY diminishes water)
Tedra #253 5 2 6 0 1 Flax/Rotten/Seeds/Weed/Water
2OROR 2YGYG ORRG RRRR GYOR 4GYGY RRGY 2RORO 2GYYG KRRO ROGY RRRO YGYY
- genome: KRRO... (impossible to make a prediction with these data, probably need longer strings)
OROR YGYG ORRG RRRR GYOR GYGY RRGY RORO GYYG KRRO ROGY RRRO YGYY
- we expect: 5 GYGY, 2 RRGY, 6 RO (4 RO's certain from tests), at least 5 OR (3 OR's certain from tests) and/or GYGYGY, minimum 2 GYGYGY (unless ROGY diminishes water)
Tedra #246 3 3 7 1 0
ORRG 3YORR 2ORRG RGYR RGYG OROY YRRG 4RORO RROG RRGY YGYR KRRO RRRO RROO
- genome: KRRO... (impossible to make a prediction with these data, probably need longer strings)
KRRO RROG
- we expect: 3 GYGY, 3 RRGY, 7 RO (4 RO's certain from tests), 4 OR (3 OR's certain from tests) and/or GYGYGY, max 1 GYGYGY (unless ROGY diminishes water)
Zaniac #390 4 2 5 1 0
2YRGY 3YOGY 5YRRG 5RORO 2GYRG 2YROK 5GYGY 6GYRR 2OGYG 3YGYY RYYO 2ORRG 3RRGY OROY RROR 3OROR YGYG 2RGYR RGYG YGYO YORR ROYR 3YGYR KRYY 2GYOR OYRO YYOG Need GYY?(O expected) ?RRO(O or Y expected)
- genome: KRYYOGYGY ... ROROYROK (impossible to make a prediction with these data, probably need longer strings)
R|Y GYRGY G|R KRYYOGYGY G|O|R|Y R|Y GYRRGY G|R O|R RORO R|Y O|R ROROYROK O|R|Y GYGYY OGYGY G|O|R|Y O|R|Y GYGYORRGY G|R O|Y RRGY G|R GY|YO RRORO R|Y O|R RORORO R|Y O|R|Y GYGYGY G|O|R|Y R|Y RGYR G|R R|Y RGYGY G|O|R|Y O|R|Y GYGYR G|R
KRYY YRGY RROR RORO RYYO RGYR or RGYG OROY YYOG ROYR YOGY OYRO OGYG YROK
- we expect: 4 GYGY, 2 RRGY, 5 RO (3 RO's certain from tests), 4 OR (2 OR's certain from tests) and/or GYGYGY, max 1 GYGYGY (unless ROGY diminishes water)
Expectations when elongating OE and shortening NG
- OE elongations (RYYOG YGYOR RYORY OGYOR YRRRG GROYG RRYOO YGYR)
- duplicated genes without effect: all except 6 and 7
- duplicated genes that cause 0 flax: 6, 7
- this is BAD NEWS (would cost a fortune in solvents to study each and every cross result), so might be better to get full genome of a more proficient seed that is pretty long, and have elongations often show in characteristics
- NG shortening (ORGRG YGYGY GRGYO RYYRG ROYYO RR)
- lost genes without effect: 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 23, 24, 27
- lost gene causing FATAL seed loss: 21 and 22
- flax (and probably watering) less: 4,5,6,7,8,9
- extra weed: 1, 2, 15, 16, 25, 26
- rotten flax add: 3
- estimate 1/6 * 13/27 of the non-fatal crosses show a difference that COULD indicate shortening, some changes can indicate lengthening, therefore we'll look at what lengthening could cause:
- add rotten flax (2 chances), flax (and probably watering) less (4 chances); meaning some same type of effects
- estimate of crosses that show a difference (fatal seed loss included): 1/6 (9/27 + 13/27) = 13.6%
- estimate 1/6 * 13/27 of the non-fatal crosses show a difference that COULD indicate shortening, some changes can indicate lengthening, therefore we'll look at what lengthening could cause:
Mutagenics is researchable after Advanced Chemistry, Advanced Glassblowing, Viticulture and Gardening -> Crossbreeding, Herbiculture. (See the Talk:Mutagens page for the full path.)
Missing Mutagen Moss Alerts
A mutagenic moss must have all the positive attributes listed but cannot have any of the three negative attributes listed. Besides must having all of the positive attributes, it can also have any other attributes that are not one of the three negatives.
Example: Positives: Hairy, Mottled, Striped Negatives: Calico, Spongy, Spotted A correct moss could be Dry, Hairy, Mottled, Striped or Hairy, Fuzzy, Mottled, Reticulated, Striped. A wrong moss would be Hairy, Mottled (it is missing Striped) or Hairy, Mottled, Spotted, Striped (it has a negative Spotted in it).
Saqqarah Positives: Crackly, Slimy, Smelly Negatives: Fuzzy, Hairy, Mottled Contact Ariella
Using a Mutagen
- A mutagen is applied to the left and right splint plants in a greenhouse.
- The mutagen will target a gene on the left splint plant and a gene on the right splint plant and switch them.
- Two child plants are produced. The child plant with the lowest number is the modified left splint plant, the child plant with the highest number is the modified right splint plant.
Example: (See Genomes_and_Phenome_Theories_Links for genome info)
- In the greenhouse, put Vampire Sea Lily in left splint, Fracture Sea Lily in right splint.
- Apply imaginary mutagen crackly,spongy that theoretically switches the two genes which are in bolded type.
Left Splint--> IYIYIOIYIOIO (Vampire genome)
Right Splint--> ROYGROYGYORGORGOOO (Fracture genome)
- Two child bulbs result.
Avatar #112 IGIYIOIYIOIO
Avatar #113 ROYGROYGYORYORGOOO
Mutagens
Mutagen Recipes In Progress
Region | # Moss att | Moss Quantity | Positive Moss att | Negative Moss att | # Shroom Types | Recipe Shrooms | Shroom Bulk | Avatar | Lab coords | |
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Meroe | # | # | + | - | ~ | # | x | # | ||
Saqqarah | 3 | Crackly, Slimy, Smelly | Fuzzy, Hairy, Mottled | Ariella |
Mutagens Discovered
Basic Mutagen info
When applying a mutagen to a plant that is not listed in a subsequent table you can calculate the targeted genes with the left and right target min. and max. percentages applied to the genome lengths (K.s not included).
Note: substitute 100% by 99.99% to make formulas in the example below work all the time
Example 1 (adventurous use and target % determination)
- we put a plant with length 30 genome in left splint
- we put a plant with length 20 genome in the right splint
- we apply a mutagen with left percentages 10.02-11.52 and right percentages 53.11-55.30
- targeted gene calculation
- left splint lowest possible impact 10.02 * 30 / 100 + 1 = 4.006, truncated --> 4
- left splint highest possible impact 11.52 * 30 / 100 + 1 = 4.456, truncated --> 4
- right splint lowest possible impact 53.11 * 20 / 100 + 1 = 11.622, truncated --> 11
- right splint highest possible impact 55.30 * 20 / 100 + 1 = 12.060, truncated --> 12
- so the mutagen will target the 4th gene of the left splint plant and the 11th or 12th gene of the right splint plant (looking at the numbers shows a higher probability to hit the 11th)
- we proceed with the experiment and hope to hit the 11th
- we are lucky and hit the 11th !!!
- this means we can narrow down the right target zone max. % as follows: 11 * 100 / 20 = 55.00 (round down for min. %, round up for max. %)
Example 2 (planning for a correct hit)
- we want to hit (= replace) the 7th gene of a length 27 genome
- target min. % = (7-1) * 100 / 27 = 22.222
- target max. % = 7 * 100 / 27 = 25.926
- we look at the mutagen table and sort the table on Left target min. %
- mutagens with Left min. % >= 22.23 and Left max. % <= 25.92 are candidates to be goodies
- for each goodie, look at the possibilities of with the Right target values, you will likely find a plant with the genome you want in the perfect spot, especially when using short genomes
- if no goodies found yet (or if you are brave enough to look for other solutions) look at the mutagen table and sort the table on Right target min. %
- mutagens with Right min. % >= 22.23 and Right max. % <= 25.92 are candidates to be goodies
- for each goodie, look at the possibilities of with the Left target values, you will likely find a plant with the genome you want in the perfect spot, especially when using short genomes
Feel free to contact Ariella or Pascalito with questions and with data updates you don't dare to apply or hesitate about -- accurate data is of EXTREME importance
Known Recipes
Mutagen Name | Recipe | Negative Moss att | Avatar | Region | Left splint target zone min. % | Left splint target zone max. % | Right splint target zone min. % | Right splint target zone max. % |
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Mottled, Phosphorescent and Reticulated | 5 Mottled, Phosphorescent, Reticulated; 6 Acorn's Cap, 7 Dueling Serpents, 1 Dung Rot, 5 Eye of Osiris, 1 Hairy Tooth, 1 Heaven's Torrent | Prickly, Slimy, Spotted | Ariella | Saqqarah 1 | 0% | 33.34% | 33.33% | 66.67% |
Calico, Reticulated and Spotted | 5 Calico, Reticulated, Spotted; 6 Bleeding Hand | Crackly, Mottled, Phosphorescent | Ariella | Saqqarah 2 | 0.00% | 33.34% | 91.66% | 99.99% |
Hairy, Mottled and Striped | 6 Hairy, Mottled, Striped; 4 Brain, 1 Cobra Hood, 7 Earth Light, 4 Fish Hook, 5 Iron Knot, 1 Toad Skin | Calico, Spongy, Spotted | Eldrad/Ariella | Saqqarah 3 | L-% | L+% | R-% | R+% |
Mottled, Smelly and Spotted | 3 Mottled, Smelly, Spotted; 3 Spiderlings | Dry, Phosphorescent, Spongy | Ariella | Saqqarah 4 | L-% | L+% | R-% | R+% |
Practical Tables
The following tables show which gene is hit by a mutagen on each splint side. Gene colors indicated with a CAPITAL character have been actually seen, those in lowercase have just been calculated based on the hit zone percentages.
Practical Sea Lily table
These tables show which gene is substituted, along with gene number (if available) counting genes from left to right starting at 1 just after the K.
L = left, R = right, numbers designate the targeted gene.
Genome lengths: Bl 26, Cl 36, Cr 29, De 16, Du 73, En 42, Fr 18, Mo 44, Si 18, Va 12
Mutagen Name | Bl L | Cl L | Cr L | De L | Du L | En L | Fr L | Mo L | Si L | Va L | Bl R | Cl R | Cr R | De R | Du R | En R | Fr R | Mo R | Si R | Va R |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
template row | Bl | Cl | Cr | De | Du | En | Fr | Mo | Si | Va | Bl | Cl | Cr | De | Du | En | Fr | Mo | Si | Va |
Practical Orchid table
L = left, R = right, numbers designate the targeted gene.
Genome lengths: AN 30, Sa 28, SL 31, HD 34
Mutagen Name | AN L | Sa L | SL L | HD L | AN R | Sa R | SL R | HD R |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
template row | AN | Sa | SL | HD | AN | Sa | SL | HD |
Practical Rose of Ra table
L = left, R = right, numbers designate the targeted gene.
Genome lengths: Bl 8, Go 12 HB 24, HoD ?, NB 45, OS 25, Pa 16, PG, 17, RD ?, WG 12
Mutagen Name | Bl L | Go L | HB L | HoD L | NB L | OS L | Pa L | PG L | RD L | WG L | Bl R | Go R | HB R | HoD R | NB R | OS R | Pa R | PG R | RD R | WG R |
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template row | Bl | Go | HB | HoD | NB | OS | Pa | PG | RD | WG | Bl | Go | HB | HoD | NB | OS | Pa | PG | RD | WG |
Practical Sand Bloom table
L = left, R = right, numbers designate the targeted gene.
Genome lengths: Ca 34, Co 26, LD 18, LT 19, PM 29, Pr 23, Sa 24, Su 13
Mutagen Name | Ca L | Co L | LD L | LT L | PM L | Pr L | Sa L | Su L | Ca R | Co R | LD R | LT R | PM R | Pr R | Sa R | Su R |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
template row | Ca | Co | LD | LT | PM | Pr | Sa | Su | Ca | Co | LD | LT | PM | Pr | Sa | Su |
Practical Flax table
L = left, R = right, numbers designate the targeted gene.
Genome lengths: NG 27, OE 39
Mutagen Name | MG L | OE L | MG R | OE R |
---|---|---|---|---|
template row | NG | OE | NG | OE |
Practical Wheat table
L = left, R = right, numbers designate the targeted gene.
Genome lengths: Ab 19, Dr 14, Ma ?, Sa 22, Wi 19
Mutagen Name | Ab L | Dr L | Ma L | Sa L | Wi L | Ab R | Dr R | Ma R | Sa R | Wi R |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
template row | Ab | Dr | Ma | Sa | Wi | Ab | Dr | Ma | Sa | Wi |
Practical Grape Vine table
L = left, R = right, numbers designate the targeted gene.
Genome lengths: Am 31, Ap 12, Ba 31, Co 18, Di ?, Fr 27?, Wi 25?
Mutagen Name | Am L | Ap L | Ba L | Co L | Di L | Fr L | Wi L | Am R | Ap R | Ba R | Co R | Di R | Fr R | Wi R |
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Mottled, Phosphorescent and Reticulated | R | Y | G | Y | G | O | O | G | Y | Y | Y | G | G | O |
template row | Am | Ap | Ba | Co | Di | Fr | Wi | Am | Ap | Ba | Co | Di | Fr | Wi |