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Of note: the need for seeds and blacksmith items is a myth, and it is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.)
 
Of note: the need for seeds and blacksmith items is a myth, and it is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.)
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Revised: On closer review, I'm less sure the Temple data is true actual T4 data; the numbers are much too consistent with Shivani's T3 numbers. Having said that, other than the ore instead of metal change, I have yet to see confirmed, hard data that the mats list for T4 differs from T3. If you can offer that (and it is not simply a recitation of some of the vague "somebody talked about" or "I think, maybe, possibly I might have seen" statements which are being repeated) please do so.
  
 
== Comments ==
 
== Comments ==

Revision as of 19:10, 22 January 2009

This page lists the materials needed to run a vigil, and will show the inventories and targets of the various materials.

For now we are basing the list on T3 vigils; as we do T4 vigils we will record the requirements and update this list accordingly.

Credits

This list is the list prepared by Shivani reflecting T3 vigils, with minor edits. This list proved quite accurate and extremely helpful, and we extend warm thanks to Shivani for the work that went into its preparation (and for the donations to the HHoF Worship guild in T3).

Donations

Always Welcome!!!!!!

The elders of the HHoFW guild do try to gather as many mats as possible, but as a quick scan of the list should make clear, the amount of mats required is prodigious. Our success with vigils in the past, and, undoubtedly, our future success, is dependent on the wonderful folk who keep our chests filled.

Always Needed!!!!

Clearly, a comparison of the "On Hand" column to the "Safe Target" below will show which items we have the most pressing immediate for, but HHoFW plans to run vigils regularly and frequently, so any item in the list you can help with will help a vigil succeed at some point.

Always Appreciated!!!!!

T4 Info

Based on the actual data from a T4 vigil posted by the Temple Guild, I will be posting revised requirements. I'll be adjusting the targets below in light of this soon. (As one observation is far too small for accurate values, I'll kind of average the numbers there and the T3 numbers, scaling up to our vigil size target.) At first glance, there seems to be little change from T3.

Of note: the need for seeds and blacksmith items is a myth, and it is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.)

Revised: On closer review, I'm less sure the Temple data is true actual T4 data; the numbers are much too consistent with Shivani's T3 numbers. Having said that, other than the ore instead of metal change, I have yet to see confirmed, hard data that the mats list for T4 differs from T3. If you can offer that (and it is not simply a recitation of some of the vague "somebody talked about" or "I think, maybe, possibly I might have seen" statements which are being repeated) please do so.

Comments

• The "Avg. Requirement" column is the mean amount required for a 1250 sacrifice vigil (this was the normal number of sacs accomplished in a T3 vigil extending from dinner time Friday until late afternoon Sunday). However, in any given vigil, the actual amount of any given material requested can vary substantially from this mean.

• The "Safe Target" column is the amount which should be on hand to insure, given the variance in amounts requested for a given vigil, that we will not run out of that material. Note that the amount here reflects the ease or difficulty of manufacture or collection of the given item. For example, the "safe" amount for crucibles and nail moulds is not terribly greater that the mean required amount, since we will have Mason's Benches near the vigil site and can easily generate more if demand is high. However, the safe amount for medium stones is well above the mean required amount, to insure there is a supply for crucible and nail mould manufacture, and reflecting the difficulty (you try to organize a dig in the middle of the night!) of gathering more on short notice.

• This is the complete list under T3. Note that, for example, large gems, cactus sap, metal ores, serpent fish, forged items, glass, grilled vegetables, flystones, gravel were never asked for. Whether there will be changes under T4 is unknown. Hopefully any additions will be reasonably common items and some quantity will be available nearby.

The List

Item On Hand Avg. Requirement Safe Target Comments
Abdju Fish 26 1000 1500
Aluminum 50 50
Aluminum Ore ?? 1000
Ash 300 300 450 no potash, ONLY ash.
Baskets 35 35 baskets are 200 dried papy EACH
Beeswax 100 1800 2000
Boards 94 4500 6500
Bricks 57 3000 4000
cabbage 1100 1500
camel meat 2955 3600 5000
canvas 250 300
carp 14 1500 2000
carrots 25 1200 1700
catfish 16 1200 1700
Charcoal 110 1800 3000
chromis 13 1100 1700
clay 314 1000 4000
clay mortars 36 450 450 not wet, just fired
copper 103 200 150
copper ore ?? 1500
crucible 100 125
cut stone 10 900 900
cutable stone 10 500 1500
Dirt 1200 1400
Dried Flax 1839 2500 2500
Dried Pappy 40 1200 1500
Dung 2229 1600 2000
Firebricks 744 10000 12000 not wet, just fired
Flimsy Brick Racks 1500 0
Flax 196 5000 12000
Flint 76 125 200
garlic 20 1000 1500
Gold 50 50
Gold Ore ?? 1000
Grilled Fish 658 3200 5000 Note that you do not need grilled veggies. Only fish.
Honey 220 700 900
Iron 99 225 350
Iron Ore ?? 2000
Jugs 488 3000 4000 not wet, just fired
Lead 5 50 100
Lead Ore ?? 1000
Leather 84 1800 2600
Leeks 1000 1500
Lime 88 200 400
Limestone 139 1300 2000
Linen 350 400
Lint 540 1250 1250
Med Diamond 70 125
Med Emerald 70 125
Med Quartz 109 70 125
Med Ruby 106 70 125
Med sapphire 2 70 125
Med Stone 4 80 250
Med Topaz 70 125
Mutton 1315 1000 1200
Nail Mold 100 125
Oil 1643 1250 1600
Onions 2000 2750
Oxy Fish 21 600 1200
Pappy 308 1600 4000
Perch 67 1200 1700
Phagrus 5 500 900
Pulley 250 250
Rope 18 1000 1200
Rotten Flax 213 3000 6500
Saltpeter 95 200 350
Silt 290 5000 8000
Silver 100 50 75
Slate 268 500 2500 between slate, stone blades and slate shovels (2 slate ea) you will need LOTS of slate
Slate Shovel 258 350 350
Sm Diamond 149 250 500
Sm Emerald 250 500
Sm Quartz 578 250 500
Sm Ruby 491 250 500
Sm Sapphire 8 250 500
Sm topaz 250 500
Stone Blade 30 800 800
Straw 37 3000 6000 grass is not called for, only straw
Sulfur 200 350 sulfurous water is not called for, only sulphur
Thorns 618 5000 7000
Thread 5000 6000
Tilapia 10 600 1200
Tin 60 100
Tin Ore ?? 1000
Tow 1500 2000
Tungsten 60 100
Tungsten Ore ?? 1000
Twine 1000 1500
Wood 1859 5000 15000