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Of note: the need for seeds and blacksmith items is a myth, and it is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.) | Of note: the need for seeds and blacksmith items is a myth, and it is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.) | ||
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Revision as of 19:10, 22 January 2009
This page lists the materials needed to run a vigil, and will show the inventories and targets of the various materials.
For now we are basing the list on T3 vigils; as we do T4 vigils we will record the requirements and update this list accordingly.
Credits
This list is the list prepared by Shivani reflecting T3 vigils, with minor edits. This list proved quite accurate and extremely helpful, and we extend warm thanks to Shivani for the work that went into its preparation (and for the donations to the HHoF Worship guild in T3).
Donations
Always Welcome!!!!!!
The elders of the HHoFW guild do try to gather as many mats as possible, but as a quick scan of the list should make clear, the amount of mats required is prodigious. Our success with vigils in the past, and, undoubtedly, our future success, is dependent on the wonderful folk who keep our chests filled.
Always Needed!!!!
Clearly, a comparison of the "On Hand" column to the "Safe Target" below will show which items we have the most pressing immediate for, but HHoFW plans to run vigils regularly and frequently, so any item in the list you can help with will help a vigil succeed at some point.
Always Appreciated!!!!!
T4 Info
Based on the actual data from a T4 vigil posted by the Temple Guild, I will be posting revised requirements. I'll be adjusting the targets below in light of this soon. (As one observation is far too small for accurate values, I'll kind of average the numbers there and the T3 numbers, scaling up to our vigil size target.) At first glance, there seems to be little change from T3.
Of note: the need for seeds and blacksmith items is a myth, and it is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.)
Revised: On closer review, I'm less sure the Temple data is true actual T4 data; the numbers are much too consistent with Shivani's T3 numbers. Having said that, other than the ore instead of metal change, I have yet to see confirmed, hard data that the mats list for T4 differs from T3. If you can offer that (and it is not simply a recitation of some of the vague "somebody talked about" or "I think, maybe, possibly I might have seen" statements which are being repeated) please do so.
Comments
• The "Avg. Requirement" column is the mean amount required for a 1250 sacrifice vigil (this was the normal number of sacs accomplished in a T3 vigil extending from dinner time Friday until late afternoon Sunday). However, in any given vigil, the actual amount of any given material requested can vary substantially from this mean.
• The "Safe Target" column is the amount which should be on hand to insure, given the variance in amounts requested for a given vigil, that we will not run out of that material. Note that the amount here reflects the ease or difficulty of manufacture or collection of the given item. For example, the "safe" amount for crucibles and nail moulds is not terribly greater that the mean required amount, since we will have Mason's Benches near the vigil site and can easily generate more if demand is high. However, the safe amount for medium stones is well above the mean required amount, to insure there is a supply for crucible and nail mould manufacture, and reflecting the difficulty (you try to organize a dig in the middle of the night!) of gathering more on short notice.
• This is the complete list under T3. Note that, for example, large gems, cactus sap, metal ores, serpent fish, forged items, glass, grilled vegetables, flystones, gravel were never asked for. Whether there will be changes under T4 is unknown. Hopefully any additions will be reasonably common items and some quantity will be available nearby.
The List
Item | On Hand | Avg. Requirement | Safe Target | Comments |
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Abdju Fish | 26 | 1000 | 1500 | |
Aluminum | 50 | 50 | ||
Aluminum Ore | ?? | 1000 | ||
Ash | 300 | 300 | 450 | no potash, ONLY ash. |
Baskets | 35 | 35 | baskets are 200 dried papy EACH | |
Beeswax | 100 | 1800 | 2000 | |
Boards | 94 | 4500 | 6500 | |
Bricks | 57 | 3000 | 4000 | |
cabbage | 1100 | 1500 | ||
camel meat | 2955 | 3600 | 5000 | |
canvas | 250 | 300 | ||
carp | 14 | 1500 | 2000 | |
carrots | 25 | 1200 | 1700 | |
catfish | 16 | 1200 | 1700 | |
Charcoal | 110 | 1800 | 3000 | |
chromis | 13 | 1100 | 1700 | |
clay | 314 | 1000 | 4000 | |
clay mortars | 36 | 450 | 450 | not wet, just fired |
copper | 103 | 200 | 150 | |
copper ore | ?? | 1500 | ||
crucible | 100 | 125 | ||
cut stone | 10 | 900 | 900 | |
cutable stone | 10 | 500 | 1500 | |
Dirt | 1200 | 1400 | ||
Dried Flax | 1839 | 2500 | 2500 | |
Dried Pappy | 40 | 1200 | 1500 | |
Dung | 2229 | 1600 | 2000 | |
Firebricks | 744 | 10000 | 12000 | not wet, just fired |
Flimsy Brick Racks | 1500 | 0 | ||
Flax | 196 | 5000 | 12000 | |
Flint | 76 | 125 | 200 | |
garlic | 20 | 1000 | 1500 | |
Gold | 50 | 50 | ||
Gold Ore | ?? | 1000 | ||
Grilled Fish | 658 | 3200 | 5000 | Note that you do not need grilled veggies. Only fish. |
Honey | 220 | 700 | 900 | |
Iron | 99 | 225 | 350 | |
Iron Ore | ?? | 2000 | ||
Jugs | 488 | 3000 | 4000 | not wet, just fired |
Lead | 5 | 50 | 100 | |
Lead Ore | ?? | 1000 | ||
Leather | 84 | 1800 | 2600 | |
Leeks | 1000 | 1500 | ||
Lime | 88 | 200 | 400 | |
Limestone | 139 | 1300 | 2000 | |
Linen | 350 | 400 | ||
Lint | 540 | 1250 | 1250 | |
Med Diamond | 70 | 125 | ||
Med Emerald | 70 | 125 | ||
Med Quartz | 109 | 70 | 125 | |
Med Ruby | 106 | 70 | 125 | |
Med sapphire | 2 | 70 | 125 | |
Med Stone | 4 | 80 | 250 | |
Med Topaz | 70 | 125 | ||
Mutton | 1315 | 1000 | 1200 | |
Nail Mold | 100 | 125 | ||
Oil | 1643 | 1250 | 1600 | |
Onions | 2000 | 2750 | ||
Oxy Fish | 21 | 600 | 1200 | |
Pappy | 308 | 1600 | 4000 | |
Perch | 67 | 1200 | 1700 | |
Phagrus | 5 | 500 | 900 | |
Pulley | 250 | 250 | ||
Rope | 18 | 1000 | 1200 | |
Rotten Flax | 213 | 3000 | 6500 | |
Saltpeter | 95 | 200 | 350 | |
Silt | 290 | 5000 | 8000 | |
Silver | 100 | 50 | 75 | |
Slate | 268 | 500 | 2500 | between slate, stone blades and slate shovels (2 slate ea) you will need LOTS of slate |
Slate Shovel | 258 | 350 | 350 | |
Sm Diamond | 149 | 250 | 500 | |
Sm Emerald | 250 | 500 | ||
Sm Quartz | 578 | 250 | 500 | |
Sm Ruby | 491 | 250 | 500 | |
Sm Sapphire | 8 | 250 | 500 | |
Sm topaz | 250 | 500 | ||
Stone Blade | 30 | 800 | 800 | |
Straw | 37 | 3000 | 6000 | grass is not called for, only straw |
Sulfur | 200 | 350 | sulfurous water is not called for, only sulphur | |
Thorns | 618 | 5000 | 7000 | |
Thread | 5000 | 6000 | ||
Tilapia | 10 | 600 | 1200 | |
Tin | 60 | 100 | ||
Tin Ore | ?? | 1000 | ||
Tow | 1500 | 2000 | ||
Tungsten | 60 | 100 | ||
Tungsten Ore | ?? | 1000 | ||
Twine | 1000 | 1500 | ||
Wood | 1859 | 5000 | 15000 |