User talk:Noreferti

Hi, I see you have been translating some pages to French. From what I understand, the 'right' way to do this in Mediawiki is to create subpages of the main English page, for example create 'Rabbits/Fr' instead of 'Lapin'; then put a Languages template on the main page listing the available languages. This is so the original page and the translated version are kept together, and so the Languages template works correctly. --Inkoaten 10:33, 17 March 2009 (EST)

I have understood that but sometimes I make a mistake because doing many things at the same time.

At the beginning, by pure chance, I had to translate two pages which have the same name in french and in english : guide and container. So I was a bit confused about the links.

Now, I take care to use the <namepage>/fr then to move the created page to the french word.

Except for pages with no corresponding english pages, it should be ok now. Lapin was just a mistake. Sorry for that

-- Noreferti 11:03, 17 March 2009 (EST)

Ok, I think I see the problem with Lapin, it is using Rabbit not Rabbits as the base page (Rabbit is a redirect to Rabbits). The other pages seem to work better. I just worry a bit about translations getting out of date, or information being added only to a translated page and not the base page, because the pages have different names (French vs English, rather than only using a single base name + language suffix).

What do you think about not creating the pages named using French words (e.g. Lapin) and keeping the page as Rabbits/fr? Or perhaps you could create Lapin as a redirect to Rabbits/fr, rather than the other way around? That would keep the related pages together better.

--Inkoaten 17:01, 17 March 2009 (EST)

You deleted Tent. I'm assuming that was accidental and I've reverted the delete. --Inkoaten 05:35, 27 March 2009 (EST)

It's not tent but tentE with an E wich need to be deleted. Then I'll be able to redirect tent/fr to tente. I'm sorry to give you some trouble but we are now 2 or 3 translators working on the french version. I try to explain to the others how to process but they surely will make some mistakes so some pages to delete. Kaayru made some changes in game as well (about box and chest) and I had to modify the pages about them -- Noreferti 08:46, 27 March 2009 (EST)

I saw that you deleted Tente with an E. But you also deleted the English version Tent! That is what I fixed.

And can I ask you again to consider using subpages of the English pages as the 'official' location of the page, and adding redirects for the French terms to that official page if necessary? It is a much cleaner approach - for example, the Index will actually be useful, and all the pages on a single topic are kept together. So you would create Tent/fr with French content, and create Tente that had only a redirect to Tent/fr.

Finally, I don't understand why you need Tente to be deleted before you add new content there. Why don't you just edit the existing page right now? --Inkoaten 09:03, 27 March 2009 (EST)

Apparently, there is something I don't understand. I have understood that I must create the french page first as name/fr and translate it. eg : rabbit to rabbit/fr but obviously french people won't use rabbit/fr but lapin. That is why when the translation is done with rabbit/fr, I move the page (redirect) to the french name : lapin. If by mistake, the page lapin has already been created, I can't redirect the /fr page to the french page. I just receive a message as the french page already exists. That is why I erase all in this page and write : to be deleted.

Do you mean I should work the contrary : create the french page (lapin) and redirect it to rabbit/fr ?? What text will I get then ? As I know a redirected page just contains the message has it has been moved but not the french text.

I already created the index pages and the category pages : that works correctly even it's quite empty for the moment. Thank you for all your advices and the time you spend because of me. I'm not a programmer neither a specialist in computers, just a translator and I try to do by best.