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== T4 Info ==
 
== T4 Info ==
  
Of note: the need for seeds is almost certainly a myth, and it is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.)
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Of note: vegetable seed are apparently requested. It appears to be a rare request; I'll add these to the mat list. It is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.)
  
On closer review, I'm less sure the Temple data (I'm making some minor revisions to the targets based on some posted data in the wiki) is true actual T4 data; the numbers are much too consistent with Shivani's T3 numbers. The Worship World guild wiki lists "blacksmithed tools" as being necessary, suggesting a range of qualities be available. However, it does not specify WHICH tools (shovels? hatchets? wedges? blades? knives?). Having a more definitive statement, preferably based on an actual log of a T4 vigil, would be helpful. (As I read the Worship World wiki page, it does not appear that they have actually run a vigil.) Based on the vagueness, I think we are still looking for a confirmation that blacksmithing is required. If you can offer that (and it is not simply a recitation of some of the vague "somebody talked about" or "I think, maybe, possibly I might have seen" statements which are being repeated) please do so.
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The Worship World guild wiki lists "blacksmithed tools" as being necessary, suggesting a range of qualities be available. However, it does not specify WHICH tools (shovels? hatchets? wedges? blades? knives?). Having a more definitive statement, preferably based on an actual log of a T4 vigil, would be helpful. (As I read the Worship World wiki page, it does not appear that they have actually run a vigil.) Based on the vagueness, I think we are still looking for a confirmation that blacksmithing is required. If you can offer that (and it is not simply a recitation of some of the vague "somebody talked about" or "I think, maybe, possibly I might have seen" statements which are being repeated) please do so.
  
 
Another T4 observation: the amount of fish being asked for, especially the rare fish (oxy, abdju and phagrus) seems MUCH higher than T3. I can't recall a T3 request over 55 for the rare fish; I've seen several much over that already in the course of a few hours of vigil observation. Please get those fishing rods going, folks! (But still no serpent fish or any of the super-rare ones being asked for.)
 
Another T4 observation: the amount of fish being asked for, especially the rare fish (oxy, abdju and phagrus) seems MUCH higher than T3. I can't recall a T3 request over 55 for the rare fish; I've seen several much over that already in the course of a few hours of vigil observation. Please get those fishing rods going, folks! (But still no serpent fish or any of the super-rare ones being asked for.)

Revision as of 21:34, 24 January 2009

This page lists the materials needed to run a vigil, and will show the inventories and targets of the various materials.

For now we are basing the list on T3 vigils; as we do T4 vigils we will record the requirements and update this list accordingly.

Credits

This list is the list prepared by Shivani reflecting T3 vigils, with minor edits. This list proved quite accurate and extremely helpful, and we extend warm thanks to Shivani for the work that went into its preparation (and for the donations to the HHoF Worship guild in T3).

Donations

Always Welcome!!!!!!

The elders of the HHoFW guild do try to gather as many mats as possible, but as a quick scan of the list should make clear, the amount of mats required is prodigious. Our success with vigils in the past, and, undoubtedly, our future success, is dependent on the wonderful folk who keep our chests filled.

Always Needed!!!!

Clearly, a comparison of the "On Hand" column to the "Safe Target" below will show which items we have the most pressing immediate for, but HHoFW plans to run vigils regularly and frequently, so any item in the list you can help with will help a vigil succeed at some point.

Always Appreciated!!!!!

T4 Info

Of note: vegetable seed are apparently requested. It appears to be a rare request; I'll add these to the mat list. It is ore instead of metal now being requested (and in the same numeric quantities -- so this is a much easier item now, except silver). (Elders: please leave whatever metal we have in vigil storage. Given Teppy's acknowledgement that the early tale furnaces are overly ore hungry, and that the blast furnace and others to come change this, the switch to ore might be temporary.)

The Worship World guild wiki lists "blacksmithed tools" as being necessary, suggesting a range of qualities be available. However, it does not specify WHICH tools (shovels? hatchets? wedges? blades? knives?). Having a more definitive statement, preferably based on an actual log of a T4 vigil, would be helpful. (As I read the Worship World wiki page, it does not appear that they have actually run a vigil.) Based on the vagueness, I think we are still looking for a confirmation that blacksmithing is required. If you can offer that (and it is not simply a recitation of some of the vague "somebody talked about" or "I think, maybe, possibly I might have seen" statements which are being repeated) please do so.

Another T4 observation: the amount of fish being asked for, especially the rare fish (oxy, abdju and phagrus) seems MUCH higher than T3. I can't recall a T3 request over 55 for the rare fish; I've seen several much over that already in the course of a few hours of vigil observation. Please get those fishing rods going, folks! (But still no serpent fish or any of the super-rare ones being asked for.)

Comments

• The "Avg. Requirement" column is the mean amount required for a 1250 sacrifice vigil (this was the normal number of sacs accomplished in a T3 vigil extending from dinner time Friday until late afternoon Sunday). However, in any given vigil, the actual amount of any given material requested can vary substantially from this mean.

• The "Safe Target" column is the amount which should be on hand to insure, given the variance in amounts requested for a given vigil, that we will not run out of that material. Note that the amount here reflects the ease or difficulty of manufacture or collection of the given item. For example, the "safe" amount for crucibles and nail moulds is not terribly greater that the mean required amount, since we will have Mason's Benches near the vigil site and can easily generate more if demand is high. However, the safe amount for medium stones is well above the mean required amount, to insure there is a supply for crucible and nail mould manufacture, and reflecting the difficulty (you try to organize a dig in the middle of the night!) of gathering more on short notice.

• This is the complete list under T3. Note that, for example, large gems, cactus sap, metal ores, serpent fish, forged items, glass, grilled vegetables, flystones, gravel were never asked for. Whether there will be changes under T4 is unknown. Hopefully any additions will be reasonably common items and some quantity will be available nearby.

The List

Item On Hand Avg. Requirement Safe Target Comments
Abdju Fish 26 967 1500
Aluminum 0 0
Aluminum Ore 40 100
Ash 320 275 420 no potash, ONLY ash.
Baskets 31 31 baskets are 200 dried papy EACH
Beeswax 300 1680 1950
Boards 94 4100 6200
Bricks 57 2725 3000
cabbage 1065 1500
camel meat 2955 3300 4000
canvas 225 260
carp 14 1360 1900
carrots 25 1065 1500
catfish 16 1070 1650
Charcoal 110 1635 2750
chromis 13 1070 1650
clay 508 915 3800
clay mortars 36 385 425 not wet, just fired
copper 103 0 0
copper ore 175 250
crucible 90 125
cut stone 10 800 800
cutable stone 10 458 1450
Dirt 1110 1350
Dried Flax 1669 2270 2300
Dried Pappy 40 1085 1450
Dung 2229 1275 1500
Firebricks 744 9000 11200 not wet, just fired
Flimsy Brick Racks 1325 500
Flax 42 4300 11500
Flint 129 115 200
garlic 20 900 1420
Gold 0 0
Gold Ore 50 100
Grilled Fish 918 2942 4500 Note that you do not need grilled veggies. Only fish.
Honey 220 633 850
Iron 99 0 0
Iron Ore 200 320
Jugs 918 2550 4000 not wet, just fired
Lead 5 0 0
Lead Ore 50 100
Leather 88 1633 2400
Leeks 880 1380
Lime 88 165 300
Limestone 149 1200 1900
Linen 3 315 360
Lint 540 1125 1125
Med Diamond 62 120
Med Emerald 62 120
Med Quartz 109 62 120
Med Ruby 106 62 120
Med sapphire 2 62 120
Med Stone 4 68 230
Med Topaz 62 120
Mutton 1315 900 1000
Nail Mold 92 110
Oil 1643 1150 1200
Onions 15 1700 2650
Oxy Fish 21 525 1050
Pappy 336 1375 3750
Perch 67 1110 1650
Phagrus 5 460 825
Pulley 225 225
Rope 18 900 1100
Rotten Flax 213 2750 6200
Saltpeter 95 180 320
Silt 300 4580 7500
Silver 100 48 75
Slate 268 460 2100 between slate, stone blades and slate shovels (2 slate ea) you will need LOTS of slate
Slate Shovel 258 325 325
Sm Diamond 149 233 480
Sm Emerald 233 480
Sm Quartz 578 233 480
Sm Ruby 491 233 480
Sm Sapphire 8 233 480
Sm topaz 233 480
Stone Blade 30 700 500
Straw 37 2700 5500 grass is not called for, only straw
Strontium Ore 55 110 ???
Sulfur 180 185 310 sulfurous water is not called for, only sulphur
Thorns 618 4400 6500
Thread 4500 5000
Tilapia 10 620 1250
Tin 0 0
Tin Ore 55 110
Tow 1350 1800
Tungsten 0 0
Tungsten Ore 55 110
Twine 780 1300
Wood 1859 4500 14000