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Kingmaker Rank 2 11/30/2009 In Progress

Kingmaker Rank 2 11/30/2009 Log 1

Demi-Pharaoh Rank 2. Welcome Dreasimy, ShuoftheFieryHeat, Orrin, Keko. In the next 3 days you must nominate one to be Demi-Pharaoh. More information can be found at voting booths. Keko: hi all Orrin: Heya :) Orrin: Hmmm.... so they put you through Dreasimy ;) Orrin: It'll be a 2 person runoff this time then 2 days 23 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. 2 days 22 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. 2 days 21 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. 2 days 20 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. 2 days 19 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. 2 days 18 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. 2 days 17 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. ShuoftheFieryHeat: hi all Orrin: Heyas Shu :) ShuoftheFieryHeat: so is this the final round? or is there another after this? Orrin: nah Orrin: 4 people in the round Orrin: I should be very surprised if there's more then 2 people in the final election Orrin: I can't think that there'd be more than 8 penultimate groups ShuoftheFieryHeat: last election there were 5 people in the final Orrin: yeh, 10 groups ShuoftheFieryHeat: k Orrin: Nchanter explained it yesterday Orrin: >7 people through, there's a runoff ShuoftheFieryHeat: well for the record - I would like to be considered as the one to go forward Orrin: so in this case, it seems like 8 people got through Orrin: You and everyone else here both I think :) ShuoftheFieryHeat: just throwing my hat in ring <G> Orrin: hmph... throwing hats is a waste of hats ;) Orrin: I'll add some explosives instead... useless things Orrin: Anyway, to lay my credidentials on the table: GMT English speaking, bits of spanish, good chunk of french (Enough to point them to Ephemere anyway!) ShuoftheFieryHeat: Greenich Mean Time English? <didnt know they had a special version there> <g> Orrin: Get on well with existing DPs, very active player, talk to a lot of people, mod of Funtasy, Founder of PRET, 1/2 of lead research donator in Meroe, held talks on cooking and thistles, written a very nearly complete listing of all food stats Orrin: yeh, GMT english is refined, none of that american drivel :P Orrin: *scuse the short teabreak* Orrin: Good sense of humour, very up to date on the whisperings going on, also have the support of elders in both meroe's main guilds Orrin: Mediation-wise I'm mature enough not to get drawn in, and I'm very much a 'play by the rules' person. If someone shares a cicada cage location, that is playing by the rules and not a matter for a DP to start shaking a banstick. Orrin: If a player wishes to dispute an action of mine with the DPs, then will gladly allow the other DPs to judge it, as it would not be fair for myself to particiapte in a DP role Orrin: that's enough Wall of Text for now, feel free to make it scroll Orrin: If you have questions and I'm not on, drop me a chat and I'll answer when I can 2 days 16 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. 2 days 15 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round. Orrin: He's a question for you all. Someone comes to you saying Person X has argued with Person Y, and intends to attack them with explosives. To back up their claim, they submit a screenshot of the conversation, with both of them in the picture. What would you do? ShuoftheFieryHeat: for various scenarios check this page: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Demi-Pharaoh#DP_Ban_Topics_to_Consider Orrin: ... Orrin: link on a seperate line for it to work btw ;) ShuoftheFieryHeat: it has loads of areas to consider -> retaliation topic ShuoftheFieryHeat: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Demi-Pharaoh#DP_Ban_Topics_to_Consider Orrin: pft ShuoftheFieryHeat: also I will try to capture the chat logs and post them on this page ShuoftheFieryHeat: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/User:Shuofthefieryheat/MyPassagesPage/Kingmaker_Details/DP_Chat_Logs#Kingmaker_Rank_2_11.2F30.2F2009_In_Progress Orrin: quick scan, looks like junk to me I'm afraid... ShuoftheFieryHeat: what do you mean junk? Orrin: way too alternatively in depth/shallow ShuoftheFieryHeat: they are topics <G> not answers Orrin: take for example 'does gaming exist'? Orrin: That's not a question anyone running seriously for DP is going to ask Orrin: Gaming *does* exist, there's no doubt about it at all! ShuoftheFieryHeat: ok I will ask it - DOES game Exist? DO you DO it? (and yes Ive been asked) Orrin: but Gaming is within the limits of the game that Teppy set out. Make no mistake, it's designed to allow it Orrin: I dont mean like that Shu, if a serious DP candidate had to *think* whether 'gaming' exists, they really shouldnt be running for DP Orrin: The game itself rewards both honesty and dishonesty. The trick with dishonesty is not to get caught at it. ShuoftheFieryHeat: well some folks do not think gaming exists - all avatars are created equal - if you have 100 mule account each is as good as any other - so playing 100 mules is aok Orrin: ^^ Orrin: I'm pretty sure those people are aware they're gaming Orrin: they just dont care that they are Orrin: very large difference Orrin: Similar to macros Orrin: That's really quite a silly question, it is common, publically stated knowledge that macros are not cheating ShuoftheFieryHeat: YOU may think its silly but others do not :)) if you dont have the macro or ability to run one you get a different view Orrin: I know all about that Orrin: I run OSX, so I never had a decent mining macro when I needed one. Orrin: Did I whine? No. I learnt to make alloys and traded for all the metal I ever needed. Orrin: You cannot drag down the majority for the sake of the minority ShuoftheFieryHeat: check the last items in the list then :) Orrin: To simply say 'macros are cheating cos I can't use one' is the old fable of the dog in the manger. 'If I can't use it, no-one else can'. ShuoftheFieryHeat: ** I can tell this is gonna be a great great round! ** Orrin: :D Orrin: I'm very vocal, as I'm sure you're aware Orrin: and I have a good sense of ethics Orrin: I can see *why* people might consider it cheating... but that's really just envy in this case

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