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<span style="color: Red"> I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Design_Guide and http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox.
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I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Design_Guide and http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox.
  
 
Still I kept having problems and mostly tried them on a trial/error basis, which most of the times got me frustated :) so eventually, when I did manage to make them, I tried to write this guide.
 
Still I kept having problems and mostly tried them on a trial/error basis, which most of the times got me frustated :) so eventually, when I did manage to make them, I tried to write this guide.
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*let's make gearbox: B100-125  D320-382
 
*let's make gearbox: B100-125  D320-382
 
**check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
 
**check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
**look for ratio's that are used for both
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**<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR BOTH!!!</u>
 
**here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
 
**here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
**start looking for shared ratio's, preferably at the start!!! then possibly with lowest cost, if there is still choice - photo: red square
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**<u>start looking for shared ratio's, preferably at the start!!!</u> then possibly with lowest cost, if there is still choice - photo: red square
  
 
[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/25q9cgh.jpg[/IMG]
 
[IMG]http://i42.tinypic.com/25q9cgh.jpg[/IMG]
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** photo's from the board
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** photo's from the board; with use of the ratio's - yellow square
  
  
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*let's make gearbox: B240-280  E175-205  H322-375
 
*let's make gearbox: B240-280  E175-205  H322-375
 
**check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
 
**check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
**look for ratio's that are used for all 3 of them
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**<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR ALL 3 OF THEM!!!</u>
 
**here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
 
**here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
 
**we need the ones that are shared by all 3 and then if there is still choice, the lowest cost possible
 
**we need the ones that are shared by all 3 and then if there is still choice, the lowest cost possible
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I hope this guide makes making gearboxes a bit more easier.
 
I hope this guide makes making gearboxes a bit more easier.
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Latest revision as of 07:33, 24 August 2013

I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Design_Guide and http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox.

Still I kept having problems and mostly tried them on a trial/error basis, which most of the times got me frustated :) so eventually, when I did manage to make them, I tried to write this guide.

Step 1 - What do you need


Step 2 - Different gearpairs

  • spacer, used to start a new layer (no cost) - to represent it in the photo's I use: 1 ::[IMG]91mpu0.jpg[/IMG]
  • one step (photo) 3/3 only allows to move in a +-shape (cost=small gears):: [IMG]2u6jmhk.jpg[/IMG]
  • diagonal (photo) 4/4 cheap :: [IMG]jqqbkg.jpg[/IMG]
  • 3/5, 5/3 makes a large change in ratio)(cost= medium gears):: [IMG]2lc9tz6.jpg[/IMG]
  • two steps up or sideways 5/6, 6/5, 4/7, 7/4 (makes smaller changes in ratio)(cost when using 7gear: large gears) :: [IMG]90btw2.jpg[/IMG]
  • knight's move 6/6, 5/7, 7/5 ::[IMG]a4ape.jpg[/IMG]]
    • 4/4 is much cheaper then 6/6 , although with 6/6 you move over large distances
    • 3/3, 4/4, 6/6 makes no change in ratio (photo still to come)
    • 3/5, 5/6, 4/7 makes the ratio go down :: [IMG]35bcl7l.jpg[/IMG]
    • 5/3, 6/5, 7/4, 7/5 makes the ratio go up :: [IMG]2r545tw.jpg[/IMG]

Step 3 - Useful to know

  • you always start at 1A, ratio 100ù
  • 8 rows, 8 columns
  • you always need to end at row 8
  • only 30 shafts can be used - = including spacers
  • no more then 3 layers/levels are possible
  • always put the smallest gear on the bottom, ex: spacer, 3-gear, 5-gear on top of each other, not spacer, 5-gear, 3-gear - it seems it is possible to put a small gear on top of a large gear, but depending on your next move, you can get the message that they are too close to each other: see photo's

[IMG]2mwxlwy.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]2z87w9y.jpg[/IMG]

  • only 3/3, 4/4, 3/5, 5/3, 5/6, 6/5, 6/6, 4/7, 7/4, 5/7, 7/5 pairs can be used

Step 4 - Example of a 1-output gearbox

[IMG]nv3w9w.jpg[/IMG]

    • photo's from the board using the cheap 4/4 gears

[IMG]2m3ic8o.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]a2671j.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]2wbydmt.jpg[/IMG]

    • photo's from the board using the expensive 6/6 gears - but since we need to make: D160-175 we have to put some 4-gears under the 6-gears

[IMG]4v5x89.jpg[/IMG]

Step 5 - Example of a 2-output gearbox

[IMG]25q9cgh.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]qxui5l.jpg[/IMG]


    • photo's from the board; with use of the ratio's - yellow square


[IMG]2md52td.jpg[/IMG]

Step 6 - Example of a 3-output gearbox

    • [IMG]rwup7b.jpg[/IMG]


    • [IMG]nz10kx.jpg[/IMG]

Step 7 - Final

  • you'll get a message if your gearbox is not good
    • either your gears don't mesh :: [IMG]ehkj1u.jpg[/IMG]
    • either you don't have an output in row 8 :: [IMG]14txqf.jpg[/IMG]
    • either you have used up your 30 shafts
  • also on top of your board you'll see if your gearbox has the correct ratio
  • when your gearbox is ok, then you'll get a popup window: "do you want to make this gearbox .....?"



I hope this guide makes making gearboxes a bit more easier.