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**<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR BOTH!!!</u> | **<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR BOTH!!!</u> | ||
**here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square) | **here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square) | ||
− | **start looking for shared ratio's, preferably at the start!!! then possibly with lowest cost, if there is still choice - photo: red square | + | **<u>start looking for shared ratio's, preferably at the start!!!</u> then possibly with lowest cost, if there is still choice - photo: red square |
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*let's make gearbox: B240-280 E175-205 H322-375 | *let's make gearbox: B240-280 E175-205 H322-375 | ||
**check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios | **check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios | ||
− | **<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR | + | **<u>LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR ALL 3 OF THEM!!!</u> |
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**here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square) | **here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square) | ||
**we need the ones that are shared by all 3 and then if there is still choice, the lowest cost possible | **we need the ones that are shared by all 3 and then if there is still choice, the lowest cost possible |
Latest revision as of 07:33, 24 August 2013
I've struggled a lot with the making of gearboxes. I did find a guide from T3 (http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale3/Users/EldradUlthran/Gearbox_Guide) and some explanations here: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Design_Guide and http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox.
Still I kept having problems and mostly tried them on a trial/error basis, which most of the times got me frustated :) so eventually, when I did manage to make them, I tried to write this guide.
Step 1 - What do you need
- Gearbox Assembly Table
- Gearbox design tech
- a stash of Small Gears, Medium Gears, Large Gears
- wikipage for the gear ratio's: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
- patience :)
Step 2 - Different gearpairs
- spacer, used to start a new layer (no cost) - to represent it in the photo's I use: 1 ::[IMG][/IMG]
- one step (photo) 3/3 only allows to move in a +-shape (cost=small gears):: [IMG][/IMG]
- diagonal (photo) 4/4 cheap :: [IMG][/IMG]
- 3/5, 5/3 makes a large change in ratio)(cost= medium gears):: [IMG][/IMG]
- two steps up or sideways 5/6, 6/5, 4/7, 7/4 (makes smaller changes in ratio)(cost when using 7gear: large gears) :: [IMG][/IMG]
- knight's move 6/6, 5/7, 7/5 ::[IMG][/IMG]]
- 4/4 is much cheaper then 6/6 , although with 6/6 you move over large distances
- 3/3, 4/4, 6/6 makes no change in ratio (photo still to come)
- 3/5, 5/6, 4/7 makes the ratio go down :: [IMG][/IMG]
- 5/3, 6/5, 7/4, 7/5 makes the ratio go up :: [IMG][/IMG]
Step 3 - Useful to know
- you always start at 1A, ratio 100ù
- 8 rows, 8 columns
- you always need to end at row 8
- only 30 shafts can be used - = including spacers
- no more then 3 layers/levels are possible
- always put the smallest gear on the bottom, ex: spacer, 3-gear, 5-gear on top of each other, not spacer, 5-gear, 3-gear - it seems it is possible to put a small gear on top of a large gear, but depending on your next move, you can get the message that they are too close to each other: see photo's
[IMG][/IMG]
[IMG][/IMG]
- only 3/3, 4/4, 3/5, 5/3, 5/6, 6/5, 6/6, 4/7, 7/4, 5/7, 7/5 pairs can be used
Step 4 - Example of a 1-output gearbox
- used for cartouche and the 1st box used in Stone Quarry
- let's make gearbox: D160-175
- check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
- here we see the possible ratios: photo below: black square
- we need the one with the lowest cost: photo below:red square
[IMG][/IMG]
- photo's from the board using the cheap 4/4 gears
[IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]
- photo's from the board using the expensive 6/6 gears - but since we need to make: D160-175 we have to put some 4-gears under the 6-gears
[IMG][/IMG]
Step 5 - Example of a 2-output gearbox
- used for Springbox, and the 2nd gearbox in Stone Quarry
- let's make gearbox: B100-125 D320-382
- check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
- LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR BOTH!!!
- here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
- start looking for shared ratio's, preferably at the start!!! then possibly with lowest cost, if there is still choice - photo: red square
[IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]
- photo's from the board; with use of the ratio's - yellow square
[IMG][/IMG]
Step 6 - Example of a 3-output gearbox
- used for Test of Dancing Waters, the dancing waters mechanism
- let's make gearbox: B240-280 E175-205 H322-375
- check the ratiopage: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios or you can use: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Tamutnefret_Gearbox_Ratios
- LOOK FOR RATIO'S THAT ARE USED FOR ALL 3 OF THEM!!!
- here we see the possible ratios: photo (black square)
- we need the ones that are shared by all 3 and then if there is still choice, the lowest cost possible
- [IMG][/IMG]
- [IMG][/IMG]
Step 7 - Final
- you'll get a message if your gearbox is not good
- either your gears don't mesh :: [IMG][/IMG]
- either you don't have an output in row 8 :: [IMG][/IMG]
- either you have used up your 30 shafts
- also on top of your board you'll see if your gearbox has the correct ratio
- when your gearbox is ok, then you'll get a popup window: "do you want to make this gearbox .....?"
I hope this guide makes making gearboxes a bit more easier.