Jay's Thistles

Thistleguide in 10 steps:

• 1. find out the current voids (/info twistedthistle)

• 2. open Talescript, trunk, VT, config_thistle OR open your VT map, config_thistle (is where you have installed VT, in my case it is on the C:/veggietales (I don't use talescript) -so find out where you have installed your copy of VT/talescript)

• 3. set all the voids to 0 (voids that weekly changes)vb; rule_nit-asc = 1 becomes: rule_nit_asc= 0 (standard they all stand at '1')

• 4. under 'desired "label:Mine" ' , I write: desired "label:JaylenaeYbarre" (offcourse, here comes your name)

desired (what my worms need comes here - ex A+N-P~T~ = you find this when clicking on your silkwormfarm) you may delete all others, it is not needed to keep them so you write like this:

desired "label: Jaylenaeybarre"

desired A-F~P+T+ 

if you write it like this:

//desired A-F~P+T+ it won't be searched !!

• 5. save the notepad

• 6. open VT , run Thistle mode (get about 40 steps here for the macro - this list will be saved in 'history' file --> look at where you have installed your copy of VT or talescript --> see point 2)

• 7: Open 'history' in VeggieTales folder,Scroll to the bottom and check percentages. If it is in the 85% range you probably can grow an accurate thistle, below that you may need to experiment. Try the "Best for . . ." recipe first. Copy the recipe, but not the letters saying what it will produce at the top and bottom, just the list of numbers.

• 8. Depending on what you use either: Open VT, luascript, thistle_custom (or thistle_new or thistle_new mix) OR Open talescripts, trunk, VT, luascript, thistle_custom (or thistle_new or thistle_new mix),

and notepad opens (again this is not the actual program, but where you have installed VT/talescript)

OR do the easiest: click on the little 'e' on the left of any of the above mentioned names, on the VT:  

• • a) Change 'local expected_gardens' to = your thistle garden number (amount of gardens you want to run)
  • b) Paste in recipe after: "instructions = {"
  • c) Change 'local last_sun' to = 33 for day with closed canopy, 99 for day with open canopy, 0 for night (canopy does not matter= there is no sun at night :))

• 9. save notepad

• 10. pin your gardens, (can use VT windows arranger or manager), check if you have seeds, waterjugs in inventory, check if the time is correct, start VT and use the thistle_custom lua or thistle_new lua or thistle_new mix lua

!!in inventory: seeds and jugs, careful: all gardens same (unless using new mix lua)

• • • More things to consider

-	Low	≤ 20
~	Average	> 20, < 80
+	High	≥ 80

• It takes 6m 30s (Real Time) to do a run on the garden.

• If you need to reset/change one of your canopies quickly, just Plant a Crop, click Sun button, then Abort

• don't put more then 1000 thistles in the silkworm farm

• How do I get more thistleseeds? : everytime you succeed to grow thistles, you get 5 thistleseeds in your inventory (still have to check this ???)

• DAYTIME= 8.25 am - 15.30 pm (3.50pm)

• NIGHT TIME= 15.50 pm - 8 am

• with open canopy = night recipe usable 6 pm - 6 am (still have to check this ???)

• Best for A-C+N-T~:13/12 (*) : means: recipe with '13' is used for nighttime growing and recipe with '12' is used for daytime growing (so you can choose to grow either at nigttime either at daytime)

• Best for A+C+F-P~: 1000/16 (D): means: that there is no night recipe only a day recipe with 16 actions

• Best for B+C~N-T-: 1000/100 (-): means: this thistle can't be made now, you 'll have to wait till next voids

REMARKS

• using VT THISTLE CUSTOM --> change has to be done on the THISTLE_CUSTOM LUA page
  • REMEMBER: gardenwindows need to be put side by side (grid) - this is the best if you only do a few gardens at once

• using VT THISTLE NEW --> change has to be done on the THISTLE_NEW LUA page
  • REMEMBER: gardenwindows need be cascading (plant a crop always visible)used for lots of gardens - use the windows arranger or manager to do the cascade

• using VT THISTLE NEW MIX --> change has to be done on the THISTLE_NEW_MIX LUA page
  • • REMEMBER: cascade but also used with different gardens up- & not upgraded

• On the following figure (Figure 2) you will find an approximate sketch showing when you can safely use which recipes. ???????

• During dusk and dawn the Sun value is constantly changing, making it insanely difficult to get any working recipes with predictable results.
• On the figure (Figure 2), the growing times for night are provided with the assumption that the canopy is closed. With canopy open, night recipes work from around 6 pm to 6 am. The reason for this large difference is that "night time" requires very low sun values, and they come by much faster when the sun is limited to 1/3.
• Hint: you might want to start your garden an egypt-minute later than the time indicated on the figure, just to be sure.

http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale5/User:Asnath/Thistle_Guide

http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Guilds/Twisted_Thistle/Voidlist

http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Guilds/Twisted_Thistle/Voidfinding