User:Kuupid

THE REASONS AND MANY OF THEM FOR BANNING GEODUDE:

Hamadi: picking up the last of my papy. All done. Fiduciary: I am offering my papy protection serices for only 10 linen per day. Geodude: you fucked that word up kuupid: I don't think so Geodude: its "linten" not linen idiat Fiduciary: What the fuck do you know about it. Geodude: I know more than you, you bean counter! kuupid: please watch your language we have kids that play this game Geodude: Really? Fiduciary: If you don't pay, I can't guarentee your papy will be secure. Infinyti: time for new laws ;) kuupid: no, but you don't know where I grow mine :) Fiduciary: No children will play this fucking game. Geodude: Ok, just wanted to double check the rules - fuck shit piss black Infinyti: true.. so you better should go, it seems Fiduciary: They have call of duty and booty call 7 kuupid: excuse me, I have grand daughters who play this gmae Fiduciary: Are they hot? Bessieloo: I'm not a kid, but I don't like the fowl language myself Fiduciary: are you hot? kuupid: please watch the language Geodude: shit shit shit Geodude: (ball)

L2PBS LOG 2012-02-10 07:36:52 Saledo: He had already started on Apiaries, so are we going to limit that also? You are thinking to narrow to deal with someone who is actively seeking to grief 2012-02-10 07:36:49 Minerva: he's gone, can't we just fugeddaboudit? 2012-02-10 07:36:48 Rabble: The only thing he didn't do was overbuilding the obelisks and immediately tearing his down. Teppy changed obelisks last tale and you can't do that anymore 2012-02-10 07:36:01 Emy: yes, it was all discussed extensively 2012-02-10 07:35:58 Rabble: He did the same things as prior tales, chat bombs, macro handed 1 silt to freeze people (due to the limit on number of windows), threatened people with harrasssment unless they gave him materials, etc 2012-02-10 07:35:34 Dreasimy: <forgets how long logs are available> 2012-02-10 07:35:29 Zaniac: for wood planes was limitiing the amount we could own discussed? 2012-02-10 07:35:24 Dreasimy: glances at the DP ;) 2012-02-10 07:35:23 Dreasimy: just in case we want to document them for future generations 2012-02-10 07:34:57 Dreasimy: if someone doesnt save those logs they will disappear forever in a week or 5 2012-02-10 07:34:35 Khama: giveing 1 sand at a time to people that were busy working glaziers bench, till they became overloaded and kept going so they had too many popup windows to deal with 2012-02-10 07:34:26 Saledo: http://services.atitd.org/log.php 2012-02-10 07:34:25 ellorin: that's enough isn't it? 2012-02-10 07:34:23 Saledo: You can review all the logs for the last 3 weeks to get the real picture 2012-02-10 07:34:10 ellorin: hmm wood planes yea 2012-02-10 07:33:58 ellorin: mostly carb shops everywhere in peoples camps 2012-02-10 07:33:53 Zaniac: i know the wood planes and the art ones what else? 2012-02-10 07:33:50 Dreasimy: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Laws 2012-02-10 07:33:44 Dreasimy: speaking of laws, did you know there is a laws page where you can read laws passed, any laws already slated for the next ballot (whenever that might be), some of the petitions being circulated now, petitions that got voted down? If you are carrying a petiton that isn't already documented on the laws page, consider writing it up on a wiki page and including the tags and on the page for auto inclusion on the laws page! So easy! 2012-02-10 07:33:40 Emy: I've been told (can't remember by who though) back in t3, when i was a dp 2012-02-10 07:33:18 Zaniac: can i ask all the sorts of greifing that he did this tale? 2012-02-10 07:32:56 ellorin: it has been discussed to death seriously 2012-02-10 07:32:40 Tut: Let me reword. :) How do you know that 2 bans = perma ban? 2012-02-10 07:32:38 Bri: Once upon a time teppy would freeze bannees to let DPs catch them too. DOn't assume 2012-02-10 07:32:12 Emy: but to be honest, if you have a problem with it, come up with a better one :) 2012-02-10 07:32:09 Justin: also think Death works differently from Exiled bans 2012-02-10 07:31:39 Emy: i have no idea, not sure how it works. 2012-02-10 07:31:29 ellorin: best thing to do is read the logs 2012-02-10 07:30:46 Tut: Ah, is that a hard-coded fact, Emy? 2012-02-10 07:29:09 ellorin: yup but try doing better without Teppy 2012-02-10 07:29:04 Emy: 2 bans and you are permanently banned :) 2012-02-10 07:29:02 Zaniac: sorry for short delayed responses cooking dinner atm 2012-02-10 07:28:23 Zaniac: isnt when you are banned you can make a new account anyways and transfer your sub to there? 2012-02-10 07:28:02 Emy: ok, but you try coming up with a law that limits buildings etc, without stuffing us over? peope tried, but too many holes. so this became our last resort 2012-02-10 07:27:11 Bastia: Breaking TOS technically SHOULD stop him from creating lots of new alts. But mostly, once he's banned a few times he'll get bored. 2012-02-10 07:26:18 ellorin: make a new law 2012-02-10 07:25:29 ellorin: we are alone in the big wide world spoooooky 2012-02-10 07:25:02 Tut: Ok, but if he has lots of alts... what's stopping him from just creating new ones and continuing to spam wood planes? Are we going to have a multitude of votes coming through to ban each one of his alts? I could see people getting annoyed at that, and he could feel like he wins still by forcing people to vote down each of his alts. Doesn't take much to be able to creat wood planes on a new character. Thank you for the xplanation on the first part. 2012-02-10 07:24:38 Rabble: So the option to refine the legal system is very limited due to Teppy no longer paying much attention to it 2012-02-10 07:24:19 ellorin: Lulu spent hours on this too 2012-02-10 07:24:17 Rabble: Teppy no longer holds many ballots or codes many laws. Some of the laws in T4 -- from the 3 or 4 ballots we had -- were never coded at all 2012-02-10 07:23:46 Emy: like what Zaniac? 2012-02-10 07:23:16 ellorin: so the law became the only option left 2012-02-10 07:23:14 Zaniac: i still think there was other options you could have used him as a positive to refine our laws and fine holes to protect us in the futrure :D 2012-02-10 07:22:40 Zaniac: kk see still catching up 2012-02-10 07:22:26 Emy: so an egypt wide vote to ban him, was the best option at the time 2012-02-10 07:22:26 Zaniac: no i mean so the DP can actually go ban them 2012-02-10 07:22:12 Rabble: That was changed in past tales. GMs can't do that anymore. Geodude was jailed for other reasons 2012-02-10 07:21:45 Emy: nope :( he was jailed, but teppy let him out 2012-02-10 07:21:39 ellorin: they did and teppy let him go 2012-02-10 07:21:13 Zaniac: i thought in that situation a GM was allowed to step in and actually lock them down in jail? 2012-02-10 07:20:45 ellorin: some people sat for considerable amount of time just to load him so he couldn't move to be able to click on him wasn't good enough 2012-02-10 07:20:20 Sabina: and the DP has to actually catch up with him while he is online to be able to ban him, he kept logging as soon as kuupid got anywhere near him 2012-02-10 07:20:18 Zaniac: Then why not look at addressing the issue other ways? Example limiting his sources of griefing.. 2012-02-10 07:20:13 Emy: because tut, a dp actually had to click on him, and geodude was very good at avoiding that 2012-02-10 07:20:10 Saledo: It also would not have addressed the hundreds of wood planes and other structures throughout Egypt 2012-02-10 07:19:56 Chet: THis also gets ridd of the stuff 2012-02-10 07:19:54 Bastia: In Goedude's case specifically, he was avoiding the DP and therefore couldn't be banned. 2012-02-10 07:19:43 Saledo: He was allowed to elude the DP, the DP had to click on him 2012-02-10 07:19:32 Sabina: probably because the DP only has 7 bans available and he could come back in many different forms 2012-02-10 07:18:35 Tut: So I have a question.... if we're so worried about Geodude and his alts, and felt that it was obvious he needed to be exiled from egypt, why wait for the whole process of creating a new petition and law to be able to exile them through voting? Isn't that what DP's have bans for? He's had a history of griefing in past tales, why not ban him outright as soon as we had a DP in place to do it? 2012-02-10 06:55:10 InLight: is this the nighthawk that played the tale with me and soldano? 2012-02-10 06:39:12 Nighthawk: should it read "danger, Will Robinson! if you delete this you will become lost in space!!" 2012-02-10 06:32:28 Disintoxication: Ohhh, true! should be bigger and in RED :) 2012-02-10 06:31:58 Emy: yes there is a confirm button 2012-02-10 06:30:12 Tamutnefret: Same size box, same length of text, same [ Yes ] [ No ] options. 2012-02-10 06:29:29 Tamutnefret: There is one. It just looks almost identical to the "warp to this waypoint" confirmation. 2012-02-10 06:07:22 Disintoxication: I submitted a dev call, hope teppy see it 2012-02-10 06:06:36 Sabina: yes lol, i have deleted so many 2012-02-10 06:05:58 Disintoxication: God. Teppy should add a : Are you sure to delete this waypoint pop-up! 2012-02-10 05:52:24 Cegaiel: only 1k flax each :D 2012-02-10 05:51:37 Cegaiel: I can make good slate shovels 2012-02-10 05:50:12 Zhukuram: Tamu makes good shovels 2012-02-10 05:49:22 oDiS: Tamutnefret is online 2012-02-10 05:49:11 Nchanter: I am not going to call this person out on the public channel, but there is atlesat one person running around egypt who's been a trial account for more than 24 game hours. like a lot more. This is, to remind people, technically theft of service. If you know of anyone like this, please place a devcall reporting it, and the person's name, as I have done. It's not OK for people to get this for free, and even less so for a GM to tell them that they are "looking into the problem" without a fix to this bug months later. 2012-02-10 05:48:26 Zaniac: 9k shovels and hatchets and best resin wedge they can do x a few times 2012-02-10 05:47:59 Minerva: depends on for what 2012-02-10 05:47:49 Zaniac: anyone know of a blacksmith online atm? 2012-02-10 05:46:14 Minerva: just /info desert djins for the coords 2012-02-10 05:45:54 Minerva: so sorry for the scare! 2012-02-10 05:45:40 Kromatus: Thank heavens...I looked at those coords again and was like "Wait...what?" 2012-02-10 05:45:25 Minerva: yes, gotta watch those minus signs 2012-02-10 05:45:12 Minerva: whoops 2012-02-10 05:44:54 Trillian: dos dig is 2720 not -2720 2012-02-10 05:41:23 Aarys: i know that at least 5 labs have gone into OE 2012-02-10 05:38:52 Trillian: bah put in star lab - nowt happened this time, sorry no "Rabbles Sparkly Pink Gypsum Dig Star" ;) 2012-02-10 05:33:33 Minerva: -1037, -2720 (ish) near school of art 2012-02-10 05:33:08 Kromatus: Ahh, all right. Well, I'll get to the cs, then. I'm in 7L atm. 2012-02-10 05:32:50 ellorin: I tend to get things too by giving my time to people and giving what I have. The ones that give get back in kind it seems. 2012-02-10 05:32:41 Kanixihk: well, 4 anyway :) 2012-02-10 05:32:26 Minerva: we have extra iron shovels 2012-02-10 05:32:18 Zhukuram: I used to have 10 broke 3 2012-02-10 05:32:10 Kanixihk: don't bother, we have iron shovels for those who have none 2012-02-10 05:31:57 Zhukuram: 10 slate shovels for about 1 hour 2012-02-10 05:31:41 Fumen: 10ish 2012-02-10 05:31:27 Minerva: a crapload, lol 2012-02-10 05:31:12 Kromatus: Hmm...if I were to bring slate shovels, what would be a good amount? 2012-02-10 05:29:33 Minerva: we have 5 so far 2012-02-10 05:29:25 Zaniac: So Minerva did you get enough ppl to do your dig? 2012-02-10 05:29:17 Tammie: can anyone tell me if the new funerary temple graphic grows when tiles are added? 2012-02-10 05:29:09 Minerva: raeli schmaeli 2012-02-10 05:28:37 ellorin: hmm I do I am making Raeli mats so quite busy ;) 2012-02-10 05:28:34 WilliamRoberts: I try to get by on good looks... not working so well... 2012-02-10 05:26:25 Nchanter: ellorin you know that work is how you get things in this game. 2012-02-10 05:24:04 ellorin: euuuwww that's work Minerva 2012-02-10 05:23:14 Minerva: who's up for a dig in DoS? 2012-02-10 05:14:18 sunandshadow: gypsum dig is done 2012-02-10 05:13:46 Fumen: yes, dpa is 60 2012-02-10 05:13:46 Fumen: it is. you can now salvage old structures 2012-02-10 05:12:43 Minerva: System message says DPA is in full effect 2012-02-10 04:40:40 Ekibe: how many days is DPA 60? 2012-02-10 04:38:11 Horusau: * checks it under the DPA ... :) 2012-02-10 04:37:39 Cegaiel: *tosses out a paper Pepsi cup out the window as he drives by 2012-02-10 04:37:18 Zhukuram: is it workign or just geodude? 2012-02-10 04:34:58 Horusau: Yay for DPA ... my neighbourhood has never looked so clean :) 2012-02-10 04:26:57 Zhukuram: ibis love hehe 2012-02-10 04:26:31 Fumen: lol... sure that isn't "love"? :) 2012-02-10 04:24:26 Zhukuram: looking for ibis in all the wrong places... 2012-02-10 04:07:04 Tallow: If anyone has two crematories built at the same location or a crematory with a button that pushes two columns in the same direction, PM me. 2012-02-10 04:06:02 Anka: Looking for valid pyro stadium locations 2012-02-10 03:58:03 Tallow: Looking for testers for a new crematory macro. PM me. 2012-02-10 03:50:05 singh: there are some brain shrooms near the gazelle 2012-02-10 03:49:07 singh: a pinch of salt, a pinch of singh 2012-02-10 03:47:57 ysabeau: pinches singh 2012-02-10 03:47:29 singh: jingle bells jingle bells... 2012-02-10 03:46:49 StarGazeR: 10 2012-02-10 03:46:39 singh: 20 2012-02-10 03:46:17 Glixis: 40 2012-02-10 03:37:00 Mar: acorns cap 886, -3106 7L 2012-02-10 03:35:50 singh: was anyone going for that gazelle? 2012-02-10 03:19:59 StarGazeR: ok thanks 2012-02-10 03:19:49 Kimber: eldar? 2012-02-10 03:19:49 Biti: Eldar I believe 2012-02-10 03:19:23 StarGazeR: looking to trade with RP Ironworks but I cant find out who to chat... anyone know? 2012-02-10 03:19:23 Kimber: i've got some pot 2012-02-10 03:14:11 Zaniac: any blacksmiths online 2012-02-10 03:11:20 ysabeau: PoT..anywhere? 2012-02-10 03:09:22 Shiranai: LF scorp brood shrooms 2012-02-10 03:06:29 Rabble: Gypsum dig starts in 55 minutes @ the VoK cs. Food provided. Bring your own shovel. If someone brings endurance incense, that's great too. Still out of it 2012-02-10 03:05:24 StarGazeR: Oh yes sorry ... I should have said an hour was the oldest :O) 2012-02-10 03:04:48 Articgrey: Gazelle post is current by-the-by 2012-02-10 03:01:57 Articgrey: Gazelle in SE -22,-4924 nw of the cs at the edge of the desert. Not staying. 2012-02-10 03:01:57 Soylas: Does anyone know of a spot on the nile that has 2 cacti fairly close to it? I need to try and grow papy to satisfy a pigment mortar requirement (near 2 cacti , near papy) 2012-02-10 03:01:53 Saledo: New Pathmaker open at the 7L CS for your puzzle pleasure! Get a head start on your Test of Reason! 2012-02-10 03:01:53 Tallow: I'm looking for volunteers to try out a new VeggieTales crematory macro. PM me. I'm especially looking for those who have more than one crematory or a crematory with a pair that moves in the same direction. 2012-02-10 03:01:46 Shepara-Ka: Sac bonfire for principles in 7L needs 42 Abdju Meat. Does anyone have any for trade? 2012-02-10 03:01:45 Aetherfang: long range ferries can't be disassembled like ordinary ferry boats, right? 2012-02-10 03:01:44 Shepara-Ka: Vigil Principle Sacrificial Bonfire just started calling for 42 Abdju Meat. Can anyone trade us for that? 2012-02-10 03:01:41 sana: to all who knew her the memorial park of Eighteen sit is in hinterlands at -938. -663. 2012-02-10 03:01:40 sunandshadow: does anyone know this month's fish for roe? 2012-02-10 03:01:36 StarGazeR: post are an hour old 2012-02-10 01:32:39 Sobe: 21 Egyptian days = approx. 7 days real time. 2012-02-10 01:30:58 Sobe: 7? 2012-02-10 01:30:00 Dalia: How many RL days does a Cut Stone Obelisk have to be to pass? 2012-02-10 01:28:09 Shepara-Ka: we're just doing principles today 2012-02-10 01:16:00 Kimber: usually the ppls running the vigil will let ppl who just want princiiple sac to claim an easier offering 2012-02-10 01:13:01 Oliver: go to the vigil tomorrow or saturday and make a sac 2012-02-10 01:12:51 Iset: sign up for the test and do 1 sac 2012-02-10 01:03:40 Chronos: what i must do in the vigil principle? 2012-02-10 00:54:14 Shepara-Ka: please chat me if you intend to come 2012-02-10 00:53:55 Shepara-Ka: if anyone needs to pass Vigil Principles, im going to build a sac bonfire near the cs in 7L in about 30 mins 2012-02-10 00:13:00 Aetherfang: ah, okay, thanks 2012-02-10 00:10:04 Khama: A guild member in "The Goods" a trading guild, who has access to the WH's and Chests, and can perform a trade for you. 2012-02-10 00:08:22 Aetherfang: what's a Goods teller? 2012-02-10 00:07:23 StarGazeR: Thanks everyone .. maybe ill get less clueless :O) 2012-02-10 00:04:49 Zaniac: Star only guide i know of for clueless is find someone to come over and teach 2012-02-10 00:04:49 Ouijdani: t3 wiki has some good info on gearboxes 2012-02-10 00:04:49 Aetherfang: anybody got a carrot wave going on? 2012-02-10 00:04:49 Augir: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Ratios 2012-02-10 00:04:49 Augir: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Gearbox_Design_Guide 2012-02-10 00:04:48 Baldur: or if it's a really hard one, post it somewhere for a challenge and I'll bet they'll solve it as fast as possible 2012-02-10 00:04:48 Baldur: best is probably to trade for gearboxes, if you can't get your head around it :) 2012-02-09 23:38:16 StarGazeR: anyone know of a guide for gearboxes for the clueless? 2012-02-09 23:38:16 Aetherfang: is the mod on break? 2012-02-09 23:38:16 Rabble: Gypsum dig in VoK in about 4.5 hours. Cuttables dig in 7L tomorrow. Cement stirs in 7L on Saturday. More details in my info 2012-02-09 23:09:37 RoyCallahan: thanks to everyone did repair it:) 2012-02-09 23:09:37 sunandshadow: awesome! Thanks to all repairers! 2012-02-09 23:09:36 Aarys: woot! thx guys 2012-02-09 23:08:34 Dale: repair completed from VOK to CCR 2012-02-09 23:04:15 Nirivia: i wouldnt know :P 2012-02-09 23:04:14 Dreasimy: you do have to aim your papy planting a bit for those spots 2012-02-09 23:03:17 Dreasimy: everyone knows they have to plant the papy themselves, or they should, thanks aarys :D 2012-02-09 23:02:39 Aarys: i added that papy loc in OE to the guide, but there's not spot to add the note that they may have to plant the papy themself 2012-02-09 23:02:39 Nirivia: i need a uni betwee 500 and 600 feet, im currently next to one and my barometer shows 496,1 feet, is it likely, given the current time, that the spot is above 500? 2012-02-09 23:02:39 Saledo: Ok CR learned on a minime just waiting till you get there and ill pop over 2012-02-09 22:58:56 Bryce: waitin' on the bus. 2012-02-09 22:58:33 Bryce: ok. Dale is on his way, will be there in um...6 minutes and 20 seconds 2012-02-09 22:54:51 Saledo: Bryce let me know when they are there, Ill port a minime up there to repair last one 2012-02-09 22:54:50 Dreasimy: that's ok that's the nature of the papy locations if it is possible to ever have a confluence of planted papy and over 200 feet then it should be documented as a possible location 2012-02-09 22:51:50 Nirivia: the papy is planted papy, so it isnt there all the time 2012-02-09 22:51:50 Bryce: my alt is on his way to repair, so that will leave only 1 2012-02-09 22:48:02 firegolem: Vok to CCR needs only 2 now, thanks who donated 2012-02-09 22:48:02 Dreasimy: if you find a spot that hasnt been documented in any previous telling that will be quite the find please take the time to document it 2012-02-09 22:47:59 Catote: 2 more votes needed between vok and ccr 2012-02-09 22:45:14 Justin: ty, Bryce! was racking my brain, but couldn't think of a spot! 2012-02-09 22:45:13 Nirivia: the papy is at sea lvl but i can stand on a nearby hill 2012-02-09 22:43:35 Dreasimy: there are links to the old wikis on the left side of the page, think there's a 100-200 documented 2012-02-09 22:43:24 Nirivia: i found a spot :D. in oe 2012-02-09 22:43:20 Bryce: try pappy mountain in OE 2012-02-09 22:42:23 silver: you have to at 200ft, the papy doesn't 2012-02-09 22:41:48 silver: no 200 sized hills by the nile? 2012-02-09 22:35:32 Nirivia: :( 2012-02-09 22:35:10 Justin: suspect that's one of the "not possibles" as papy grows along the nile, and the nile is all at sea level. Unless you get lucky with a side-pond! 2012-02-09 22:33:47 Nirivia: does anyone know of a spot 200-300 feet above sea level near a papy plant? 2012-02-09 22:17:17 Saledo: sorry MT 2012-02-09 22:17:04 Saledo: One of the few outlying regions that have people 2012-02-09 22:13:52 Dreasimy: yes it is 2012-02-09 22:13:21 sunandshadow: I wonder if that's the spot I reported 2012-02-09 22:12:24 Dreasimy: im at the last reported spot in MV on shroomdar but dont see any 2012-02-09 22:12:23 Aarys: i had some confusion the other day with a guildmate, apparently there's a herb named golden sun as well 2012-02-09 22:11:41 Aarys: need 4 more goldend sun's myself 2012-02-09 22:10:27 Dreasimy: looking to eat some golden sun if you see any you dont need ;D 2012-02-09 22:05:10 blondie: it would be cool if you could set any kitchen to public use so people could fillet fish at any kitchen 2012-02-09 22:01:48 firegolem: VoK to CCR needs 3 more repairs 2012-02-09 21:10:02 NanuJester: lookin for my last otter 2012-02-09 21:07:31 Zazamoukh: It won't let you build if its not ok 2012-02-09 21:06:28 Catote: I would like to build a Raeli, but also want to ensure its within the rules (50 coords away from other Raelis). Is it my job to scout in all direction and calculate distance. Or will the game help be by telling is a spot is invalid? 2012-02-09 20:53:48 allmighty: any ibis out there yet 2012-02-09 20:49:57 Inchristgirl: I don't get it 2012-02-09 20:47:16 oDiS: Has anyone built a contr site for a pathmaker yet? If so, are the cut gems the same as on the wiki? 2012-02-09 20:38:58 Spooner: cut* 2012-02-09 20:38:43 Spooner: WTB Unity Cur Lapis 2012-02-09 20:26:17 Spooner: any ibis yet? 2012-02-09 20:23:45 Augir: If anybody can help with herbs or End food please chat me 2012-02-09 20:23:45 Fumen: ooo... love them pathmakers :) 2012-02-09 20:22:53 Augir: Are you tired of processing flax on Heckiling Combs? If yes join us this Sunday 9am EST (2pm GMT) - my camp 7L near UBody and help open Flax Automation! We have 80k Flax to process 2012-02-09 20:20:50 eldar: lol, and for updating the wiki :) 2012-02-09 20:19:44 Trillian: oh nice augir :) thanks for announcing it :) 2012-02-09 20:19:24 Trillian: hmm on mushrooms if they are on DN list it wont work, somethings dont work when have begun a venery as it looks for keys, only times i can think of where its played up but perhaps lag issue might affect it? have you checked setting is still on to auto pick 2012-02-09 20:19:08 Augir: Thistle Gardening on timer in Seven Lakes 2012-02-09 20:13:22 StarGazeR: Why is my one click thing not working... I have it set to auto pick up piles of less than 50 but its not working? Anyone have an idea what I may have done wrong? 2012-02-09 19:50:36 Saledo: Its on one of the old wikis, or I have it locally on my computer also, Ill have to dig it up 2012-02-09 19:49:48 Disintoxication: great thanks, where is the macro available? 2012-02-09 19:48:55 Saledo: Ok Ill try and get it worked out today 2012-02-09 19:48:07 Disintoxication: Augir public crematory 2012-02-09 19:47:20 Saledo: Is the one your looking at a public crematory? If so I could modify the one later today probably 2012-02-09 19:46:19 Saledo: They have to modified for each crematory unless your lucky enough to hit one that matches one of the finished ones' 2012-02-09 19:44:07 Disintoxication: Any1 has a crematory macro yet? 2012-02-09 19:40:30 kuupid: VIGIL, FEBRUARY 10TH STARTING AT 8PM EST THROUGH SUNDAY 12PM EST. ALL ARE WELCOME. SO GET YOUR INITATION IN. DONATIONS ARE WELCOME 2012-02-09 19:36:56 Disintoxication: about a month 2012-02-09 19:36:33 Anka: How long ago did mentorship open? 2012-02-09 19:31:20 Spooner: ok ready for ibis now 2012-02-09 19:30:13 Spooner: Oh yes lily champaign for breakfast sounds good 2012-02-09 19:29:52 Spooner: anyone have a Lapis Unity cur i will swap a 7.7k hookah bowl 2012-02-09 19:29:48 Fumen: well, if you mix 'em like i do, and like a little juice with your alcohol, it's more like 48% alohol (cause i use 100 proof vodka) 2012-02-09 19:29:00 Feyth: really and all this time i thought it was 20% oj 2012-02-09 19:28:58 emeraldlily: pours herself one and hands another to spooner 2012-02-09 19:28:56 Fumen: a mimosa is less as it uses champaigne 2012-02-09 19:28:21 Fumen: a "properly" mixed screwdriver is about 12% alcohol 2012-02-09 19:27:53 Spooner: ok Lily I will have a double on cracked ice please 2012-02-09 19:26:53 emeraldlily: hehe...that's a mimosa 2012-02-09 19:26:52 Fumen: that's called "vodka" 2012-02-09 19:26:20 Spooner: how about 12% alcohol orange juice? 2012-02-09 19:25:30 Spooner: <---puts on his thinking cap and designs a Breakfast wine 2012-02-09 19:22:46 Helena: ibis feather boa, anyone? 2012-02-09 19:22:40 Spooner: @#$%^&*()_ oh ok ty 2012-02-09 19:22:00 Helena: too early, ibis don't come out until 6am 2012-02-09 19:21:59 Emy: bit early spooner lol 2012-02-09 19:21:50 Rabble: whispers "he just wants more feathers don't say anything" 2012-02-09 19:21:24 Spooner: any ibis this morning? 2012-02-09 19:19:03 LuluDivine: Thanks Fumen, I think that's it... 2012-02-09 19:18:44 Fumen: think it was 14 days after last login, lulu, but i'd have to check at a voting booth 2012-02-09 19:18:41 Spooner: nah drink wine make wine glasses cut stones and fish no work for this boy 2012-02-09 19:18:37 kuupid: tar and feather the dp? 2012-02-09 19:18:28 Zhukuram: Drama is The Game :) 2012-02-09 19:17:58 Taemon: I don't know Spooner, play the game? 2012-02-09 19:17:58 LuluDivine: Can someone remind me what the terms of the DPA are for trials? 2012-02-09 19:17:29 Spooner: dfang and i have been boiling tar and collecting ibis featehrs for 3 days, without geodude what am I going to do wioth all this stuff? 2012-02-09 19:17:06 kuupid: he was smart enough not to have some of his alts join team rocket 2012-02-09 19:16:17 kuupid: I believe it is, not all is down 2012-02-09 19:16:14 Zhukuram: LOL 2012-02-09 19:16:13 Taemon: Or should we go back to being our peaceful selves? Nah. 2012-02-09 19:16:11 Zhukuram: can we ban all the junk bonfires next? massive lag at every cs? 2012-02-09 19:15:59 Helena: or we can just wait for dpa to kick in... 2012-02-09 19:15:31 DisShovel: So, after all Geodud's stuff and the Team Rocket stuff is down, is it worthwhile to get a list of what stuff is still standing that needs attention? 2012-02-09 19:15:08 Helena: seriously! 2012-02-09 19:14:57 Rabble: yeah, and they were good dancers too! 2012-02-09 19:14:42 Helena: lung fu hustle... a bunch of sharp-dressed men... with axes. or, i guess, in the case of us egyptians, hatchets 2012-02-09 19:14:29 kuupid: geodude is dead, now we are going after his alts 2012-02-09 19:13:57 Spooner: i got new plan for geodude... just pin him whenever he is carrying 1 db then he cant build anything haha 2012-02-09 19:13:22 Helena: like the axe gang in that one movie... 2012-02-09 19:12:07 Rabble: especially if they are well dressed 2012-02-09 19:11:56 Fumen: lynch mob best mob 2012-02-09 19:09:30 LuluDivine: apparently we have the death penalty - I did forget to ask teppy about that part... 2012-02-09 19:09:15 Disintoxication: ROFL. 2012-02-09 19:08:53 kuupid: if you do a /info on geodude it will show him as dead 2012-02-09 19:07:46 Nicko: is white oniontail new season fish? 2012-02-09 19:06:04 oDiS: I missed that line in the bill o_O 2012-02-09 19:05:01 kuupid: instead of showing him exiled it will then show him as dead 2012-02-09 19:04:04 kuupid: what we can do is put in a petition on Butterfree also and then it can be torn down afterwards, from what I understand 2012-02-09 19:04:00 Bobophet: DPA will take care of it eventually. ;-) 2012-02-09 19:03:28 oDiS: Sorry to hear that bobo :( 2012-02-09 19:03:26 Bobophet: woodplanes 2012-02-09 19:03:05 Bobophet: I have unguilded woodplaned from butterfree that cannot yet be torn down. But they will go away eventually. 2012-02-09 19:03:02 kuupid: and HUGS to all 2012-02-09 19:02:50 kuupid: your very welcome 2012-02-09 19:02:29 Aeguus: Thank you very much! =) 2012-02-09 19:02:01 kuupid: go to utilites join region chat 2012-02-09 19:01:18 Aeguus: Could someone please tell me how to re-join regional chat, mine is gone for some reason 2012-02-09 19:01:17 oDiS: i.e., if Rabble was secretly geodude, and we banned geodude, and ashekeshum both owned by rabble, rabble in efect would be banned for the rest of the tale as well. 2012-02-09 19:00:18 kuupid: ok thanks oDiS 2012-02-09 18:59:23 oDiS: I know it will ban him kuu = I'm asking if two AGA bans will act the same as 2 DP bans does on the same person. Which is, a developer comes into the picture and bans the person him/herself from making any new accounts for the rest of the tale, as well as removing any other current active accoutns of the person that we do, or do not know about. 2012-02-09 18:59:21 kuupid: I will be putting a petition out on fiduciary after Ashkechum is banned 2012-02-09 18:56:33 Rags: dig in 1 hour. /info rags for details 2012-02-09 18:56:19 kuupid: if we get enough sigs it will ban him 2012-02-09 18:55:35 kuupid: it does oDiS 2012-02-09 18:54:44 oDiS: I'll ask the next time I see him on and remember. If this current one bans ashkeshum and I haven't ask tepster by then, I'll just call him. 2012-02-09 18:53:52 kuupid: we still need to do a petition on fiduciary 2012-02-09 18:53:12 LuluDivine: oDiS, don't think anyone has asked that specific question of teppy. 2012-02-09 18:52:48 Andyhotep: *have 2012-02-09 18:52:48 LuluDivine: sorry, not fiduciary, the other one 2012-02-09 18:52:42 LuluDivine: Disintoxication, kuupid banned butterfree and fiduciary in the traditional way - geodude's ban was through the AGA, and did not reduce kuupid's remaining ban power. 2012-02-09 18:52:30 Andyhotep: also the next DP will 7 new bans 2012-02-09 18:52:19 oDiS: Okay, then my NEXT question is will these effectively work the same as DP bans. As in, will two AGA bans on the same person still convert into a developer perma-ban? 2012-02-09 18:52:17 kuupid: I used one on Butterfree and one on Gaben 2012-02-09 18:51:38 kuupid: yes but not on Geodude 2012-02-09 18:51:03 Minerva: nope. the law specifically says that AGA bans don't count toward DP bans 2012-02-09 18:50:57 LuluDivine: No, it did not - I confirmed with teppy that this does not consume a DP's remaining bans 2012-02-09 18:50:56 Disintoxication: You used 2 exiles, one on Butterfree and one of another account 2012-02-09 18:50:52 Taemon: Does that mean Egypt can ban "only" six more people? :-) 2012-02-09 18:50:48 Auset: thats what i thought , the pwople voted to ban him 2012-02-09 18:49:56 kuupid: I didn't ban him Egypt did, so it did not use one of my bans 2012-02-09 18:48:41 kuupid: not it did not 2012-02-09 18:48:40 Taemon: And well spent. 2012-02-09 18:48:08 Disintoxication: Yes it did. 2012-02-09 18:45:55 oDiS: My next question is: Did it consume one of kuupid's bans or not? 2012-02-09 18:45:54 Saledo: I am kind of put off on the way the guild stuff flows down, in this case its a no brainer but if its used in a different context it could get ugly 2012-02-09 18:43:47 Bessieloo: I personally want to thank you all for voting this law, my yard looks pretty again :) 2012-02-09 18:42:11 LuluDivine: Hopefully, we'll never have to use this again, and it won't matter. 2012-02-09 18:41:59 LuluDivine: Also, if this is ever used again, there will be a message in system announcing the ballot, the accused name AND the accusing DP's name. The DP's name will not be on the ballot itself, because that's a pain to do, but it *will* be announced/recorded in system. 2012-02-09 18:41:06 Fumen: my my... what destructive people 2012-02-09 18:40:16 Saledo: For example I had woodplanes from butterfree that werent initially affected by the griefer law but I can now tear them down 2012-02-09 18:40:05 oDiS: Eh, that part doesn't irk me. It's just slate. (this time) 2012-02-09 18:39:35 Saledo: I have torn down the team rocket Guild hall, this should make all their assets throughout Egypt salvagable even if they werent built by Geodude 2012-02-09 18:39:11 LuluDivine: oDiS, the 'no mats back' part 2012-02-09 18:39:06 oDiS: our paid member count didn't jump by roughly 75 members the same week as the release of mentorship for any other reason. :P 2012-02-09 18:37:34 oDiS: Auset: many of them are alts that people were using to pass mentorship that are startign to go unpaid. 2012-02-09 18:36:07 Auset: is it me or does it seem like players are leaving frequently as of late? 2012-02-09 18:36:01 oDiS: which parts were techvetoed? 2012-02-09 18:35:03 LuluDivine: I'm personally grateful Teppy implemented the AGA as quickly as he has. There were bound to be bugs, and there are a few hitches that are techvetoed, but such is life. For the most part, we are on the right track. 2012-02-09 18:31:50 Xaxyx: Zah. 2012-02-09 18:31:32 Rabble: I think it deserves at least half a huzzah. So huz! 2012-02-09 18:30:56 Hekatef: Well, they worked hard to gather all that slate, we might as well get some good use out of it. 2012-02-09 18:30:43 Xaxyx: Well, it would have been nice if the implementation were (1) timely, (2) worked the first time and (3) matched what was specified in the law we passed. But yes, the woodplanes are gone, which is the most important thing. 2012-02-09 18:29:47 Bessieloo: really i don't care to enjoy it, just wanted the woodplanes gone ;) 2012-02-09 18:29:25 Bessieloo: yes 2012-02-09 18:29:04 Bessieloo: tes it is fixed :) 2012-02-09 18:29:03 Xaxyx: You'll get mats back too, even though the law says you shouldn't. So enjoy Geodude's slate. 2012-02-09 18:25:32 Xaxyx: You can now tear down buildings built by an exiled player even if some other player came along and claimed ownership of them. 2012-02-09 18:20:38 Auset: come on cicadas sing to me 2012-02-09 18:20:21 Teti: there are some patches of dirt in RP near the road to uHarmony 2012-02-09 18:19:41 Raki: great, ty blondie :) 2012-02-09 18:19:06 blondie: sure, oe has some dirt mountains 2012-02-09 18:17:56 Raki: does anybody know if dirt between 200 and 300 feet above sea level is feasible? 2012-02-09 18:17:39 Telanoc: Snake fights 2012-02-09 18:16:51 Auset: what are they good for? 2012-02-09 18:15:15 Morrigan: yes 2012-02-09 18:15:02 Auset: dueling serp mushrooms good for anything? 2012-02-09 18:09:23 Dreasimy: yes they are, and im asking if anyoen sees some tonight to please let me know, thanks! 2012-02-09 18:08:55 Auset: i think those are coastal, maybe 2012-02-09 18:06:45 Dreasimy: lookin to eat 2 heaven's torrents off the ground! 2012-02-09 18:06:32 LuluDivine: Bryce - the number of colors on the oven is going ot be somewhat variable - if it's at a hue and saturation the makes it pop quickly between lots of colors as it slides down the lightness scale....voila, loads of colors 2012-02-09 18:05:31 Xaxyx: I would suggest a dev call on both of those points. 2012-02-09 18:05:19 Xaxyx: The law's been implemented wrong. We're supposed to be able to tear down anything that was originally built by Geodude; ownership should be irrelevant. And we shouldn't be able to claim his buildings, only tear them down for no return. 2012-02-09 18:04:44 Auset: k ill keep checkig for them then :) 2012-02-09 18:04:22 blondie: yep yep 2012-02-09 18:04:22 Bryce: just wondered, cause the 2 we have give 15 colors not counting black or white 2012-02-09 18:03:42 Auset: are palm fronds still needed? 2012-02-09 18:02:55 Bessieloo: oh lovely Majami claimed the woodplanes before i could tear them down ...so we are still stuck with this mess! 2012-02-09 18:02:34 LuluDivine: at 100% lightness, they are always white, and at 0% lightness, they are all at black 2012-02-09 18:02:21 LuluDivine: ovens work on the HSL system - hue, saturation, lightness 2012-02-09 18:01:54 LuluDivine: yes, all ovens start at white and end at black 2012-02-09 18:01:50 silver: yes 2012-02-09 18:01:37 Auset: do all ovens give black and white? 2012-02-09 18:01:26 Rabble: I know mine does white. And something else 2012-02-09 18:01:02 Ashtarii: got 16 colors on mine (counting black n white) 2012-02-09 18:00:17 LuluDivine: what changes is how the mapping of hue and saturation across distances/the landscape works 2012-02-09 18:00:16 LuluDivine: the math per oven stays the same, once you know the hue and saturation of the particular oven 2012-02-09 17:59:30 blondie: hm, 13-14 wood be nice 2012-02-09 17:59:29 LuluDivine: average number of colors per oven really shouldn't change tale to tale 2012-02-09 17:58:58 Blessed: 13 or 14 Bryce 2012-02-09 17:58:21 Nirivia: rabble the clay bricks are done 2012-02-09 17:57:43 Bryce: what is the average number of colors (not counting black and white) that ppl are getting from their ovens this tale? 2012-02-09 17:53:18 Rabble: OE is also working on a third raeli type and still needs clay bricks, sheeting and 5 types of resin 2012-02-09 17:52:10 Fumen: correct. 7L is getting close. i'm not sure where everyone else is on it 2012-02-09 17:51:45 kuupid: we still have to open that tech if I'm not mistaken 2012-02-09 17:51:22 Auset: thanks fumen im going to write it down so i dont foregt 2012-02-09 17:50:43 Fumen: we need metal treatment, and then you treat steel in the vats and get stainless out of it 2012-02-09 17:50:22 Bessieloo: just glad to get rid of these darn woodplanes, wouldn't care if i got nothing for them 2012-02-09 17:49:50 Auset: does anyone know about stainless steel, how to created it 2012-02-09 17:49:21 Bessieloo: lol 2012-02-09 17:49:19 Dreasimy: well, it should reflect the law, i think it was written that way to prevent abuse of the law to vulture people's possesions with it 2012-02-09 17:49:01 Rabble: Awww, and I tried to get that dumbass to grief me and he wouldn't. I'm losing out on slate! :) 2012-02-09 17:48:40 Bessieloo: oh I'm not lol 2012-02-09 17:48:40 Fumen: not suposed to according to the law, but if pharoah says that we can salvage for materials, i won't complain 2012-02-09 17:48:26 kuupid: don't complain lol 2012-02-09 17:47:55 Bessieloo: I thought we'd get nothing back on geodudes items I got 3 slate on woodplane? 2012-02-09 17:45:31 Chronos: look for one who can create a good resin wedge pls 2012-02-09 17:41:31 Dalia: TY Raki :) 2012-02-09 17:40:50 Raki: building and/or interface sounds, Dalia 2012-02-09 17:27:09 Rags: Dig in 2 1/2 hours. /info Rags for details 2012-02-09 17:26:58 codex: thanks 2012-02-09 17:26:57 codex: thamks 2012-02-09 17:26:56 Dalia: What audio option/s should be all the way to the right to hear bullfrogs? 2012-02-09 17:14:17 Morrigan: helllo HUGS 2012-02-09 17:00:23 kuupid: Good morning Egypt HUGS 2012-02-09 16:50:27 Olivia: opss my bad, they are, sorry!! 2012-02-09 16:46:59 Olivia: No Lulu, it´s not guilded. 2012-02-09 16:46:03 Nirivia: now 2012-02-09 16:46:02 LuluDivine: I believe you can tear them down now Olivia, unless they are guilded - Teppy's still working on that part I think. 2012-02-09 16:46:01 Fumen: so hopefully by end of day 2012-02-09 16:46:00 Anthaeus: right now, start clearing up :) 2012-02-09 16:45:59 Fumen: teppy said he was fixing it 2012-02-09 16:45:59 Nchanter: You can already do it 2012-02-09 16:44:38 Olivia: Does anyone know when we can start to tear down those woodplanes by Geodude? 2012-02-09 16:44:37 Yerbouti: gm calls washed down with system punch 2012-02-09 16:44:36 LuluDivine: don't eat my dev call Tel!!! It is NOT yummy!! 2012-02-09 16:40:23 Telanoc: But they do when I am really hungry and don't want to walk to the fridge 2012-02-09 16:37:50 Casino: echo echo echo 2012-02-09 16:37:49 LuluDivine: thanks all 2012-02-09 16:32:27 Asheara: correct 2012-02-09 16:32:26 Casino: correct 2012-02-09 16:32:25 Nchanter: correct 2012-02-09 16:27:29 LuluDivine: Dev calls do *not* get eaten when you log out, right? That's only gm calls? 2012-02-09 15:52:46 oDiS: HAH beat teppy to the system punch! 2012-02-09 15:48:14 oDiS: The recent fix did not include the ability to tear down guilded buildings. Teppy is fixing this now. :) 2012-02-09 15:48:12 Aarys: WTS slate... LOL 2012-02-09 15:48:11 Nicko: slate klondike 2012-02-09 15:43:35 Nchanter: and the people rejoyced 2012-02-09 15:42:49 Nirivia: :) 2012-02-09 15:42:27 Aarys: 2 wood planes already down, and 500 to go 2012-02-09 15:42:03 Casino: woohoo! the crap Geodude spread all over Egypt can now be obliterated :) 2012-02-09 15:42:02 Augir: ty Teppy :) 2012-02-09 15:26:04 Feyth: ty question answered 2012-02-09 15:10:38 Feyth: could someone that has set up aquducts chat me im trying to fnd a pump location and i have questions 2012-02-09 14:44:21 Olivia: So is Malbolge 2012-02-09 14:32:20 Anthaeus: yes Nuit 2012-02-09 14:30:54 Nuit: Who is Ashkeshum? Is that an alt of Geodude? 2012-02-09 14:11:42 Jmax: hey chart 2012-02-09 12:17:41 Inchristgirl: anyone spot ibis yet? 2012-02-09 11:36:36 Mar: that oens pretty distinctive I kenw it wasnt, but I would have told you if I were sure 2012-02-09 11:35:31 Poledra: thank goodness it wasn't curly sage, I need that for Tattoo :) 2012-02-09 11:35:03 Moonboots: I knew that I should have scrolled up the log 2012-02-09 11:34:15 Mar: meadowsweet for the win 2012-02-09 11:33:51 Moonboots: similar to harebell ? it must be ilex 2012-02-09 11:32:38 Malarkey: Turn off time of day lighting- that helps 2012-02-09 11:32:37 Mar: im going to skim through the images one more time if I dont see a better match ill try that, ill update you if its correct or not, btw ty all for trying to help I appreciate it 2012-02-09 11:32:05 bcoastaldawn: harebell? 2012-02-09 11:31:54 Mar: hmm thats closest yet 2012-02-09 11:31:06 Poledra: what about meadowsweet? 2012-02-09 11:31:06 Mar: ok the actually shape of the leaves are like harebell BUT they do not go upward like that, they curve downward just like the cranes 2012-02-09 11:28:21 Mar: no to katoako base isnt joined like that its different stemms close but not combined 2012-02-09 11:25:29 Poledra: panoa 2012-02-09 11:25:29 Poledra: katako root? 2012-02-09 11:21:22 Mar: eww sorry for the awful typos 2012-02-09 11:20:52 Myn: another shot... Asane? 2012-02-09 11:20:47 bcoastaldawn: http://rogarian.atitd.org/herbalist2/t6_herbalist/ 2012-02-09 11:20:12 Mar: no to sagr leaves too thick on hat, its about as talk as a stack of straw, the leaves are narrow and long corving downward, they are not solid leaves they ort of branch out a little but not at all wide 2012-02-09 11:18:44 Mar: its really hard to tell color for me with my graphics to me it looks kinda green 2012-02-09 11:18:44 Louise: sagar ghota? 2012-02-09 11:18:13 Poledra: sometimes they don't look quite like the wiki, I have found the colour depends on the time of day 2012-02-09 11:16:45 Mar: no to blue tarrafern and not strychnos...its not a full feather maybe thats not the right word to explain it 2012-02-09 11:15:00 Mar: not blimbi leaves curve downward and are long 2012-02-09 11:14:44 Sheeps-KAF: strychnos? 2012-02-09 11:12:52 Mar: leaves arent quite as feathered or wide as that, ive flipped through the images I just cant seem to spot anything exact 2012-02-09 11:12:46 Anthaeus: how about bilimbi? 2012-02-09 11:11:38 Sheeps-KAF: blue tarrafern? 2012-02-09 11:11:24 Mar: but it sprouts curving downward the same as those, also difference is the base its not combined each stem goes into the ground separately 2012-02-09 11:10:59 Mar: ashoka is similar but the leaves arent right these feather somewhat 2012-02-09 11:10:36 Mar: its def not curly sage 2012-02-09 11:10:18 Myn: both are similar. Ashoka is small, Curly Sage is largish. 2012-02-09 11:09:54 Mar: the leaves feather a little unlike curly sage 2012-02-09 11:09:33 Sheeps-KAF: ashoka? 2012-02-09 11:09:10 Myn: Curly Sage? 2012-02-09 11:07:51 Mar: need some herb help as I cant see colors, looks like a cranesbill the way the leaves sprout and curn downward, but the base is not bunched together like the cranesbill...instead the stems seem to go into the ground individually any ideas? 2012-02-09 10:03:16 sunandshadow: what fish are yielding roe now? 2012-02-09 10:00:55 Mar: good eye :) 2012-02-09 10:00:20 Mar: lol ty 2012-02-09 10:00:12 toldy: ur sekret is safe wit me ;) 2012-02-09 09:59:57 toldy: I gotcha mar hehe 2012-02-09 09:40:58 Mar: im not staying with it just callin it out 2012-02-09 09:40:18 Mar: Gazelle DoS -2959, -172 2012-02-09 09:16:40 silver: I still need to nom 7 HTs 2012-02-09 09:15:20 Dreasimy: pewp! only needed 2 more heaven's torrents and they've moved since 8 hours ago, so if you see any please yell :D 2012-02-09 09:15:19 Imhotep: sorry just found a woodplane army built by team rocket 2012-02-09 09:13:55 Imhotep: ohhhhh thats what he did 2012-02-09 09:12:23 Dreasimy: :) 2012-02-09 09:11:54 Myn: sweet 2012-02-09 09:11:16 toldy: Public Gold Mine: 1652, 5815 DoN :) 2012-02-09 09:09:15 toldy: GOLD THERE BE GOLD HERE! hehe sry excited 2012-02-09 09:07:26 blondie: ooh! i remember that! 2012-02-09 09:01:32 Minerva: nice 2012-02-09 09:00:16 Myn: http://tinypic.com/r/voace9/5 2012-02-09 09:00:15 Myn: Fish bigger than a house: 2012-02-09 08:59:33 Sabina: i have never gotten a fishing point either 2012-02-09 08:58:37 Payna: lol we'll need to get out the rocking chairs if we are going to have this conversation. 2012-02-09 08:58:12 Rabble: Yeah, that feature is gone. :( 2012-02-09 08:57:49 silver: I remember I used to be able to catch fish big enough to live in. 2012-02-09 08:57:34 Sabina: yeah i thought it was only on certain types 2012-02-09 08:56:44 Dreasimy: I thought I heard someone say just on certain types of fish 2012-02-09 08:56:26 Rabble: But not in the way that it used to affect fishes. You'll no longer get giant fishes from high speed 2012-02-09 08:55:42 Sabina: yes 2012-02-09 08:55:10 Zaniac: does speed still affect fishing? 2012-02-09 08:53:01 Sabina: hugs back at ya 2012-02-09 08:52:49 Sabina: take care 2012-02-09 08:52:48 Sabina: nite kuupid 2012-02-09 08:52:35 kuupid: Night Egypt HUGS 2012-02-09 08:52:26 Sabina: ah ok, well I guess I must have missed those 2012-02-09 08:51:58 Rabble: This was before the toon Ash was jailed as well 2012-02-09 08:51:58 Sabina: ok its just that I didnt hear of that name before today, so I just wanted to be sure, I thought it was just him and Butterfree 2012-02-09 08:51:41 Rabble: He admitted it during one of the sessions when he was bragging about how much be griefed other games. He also logged out of Ash (over and over) and logged into Geodude, spammed the PBS mic, then logged right back into Ash 2012-02-09 08:51:01 Minerva: and the name says it all. 2012-02-09 08:51:00 Minerva: he pretty much admitted it 2012-02-09 08:50:58 Sabina: ohhh 100 coconuts lol 2012-02-09 08:50:38 Sabina: how do we know that kuupid, I dont even remember him? 2012-02-09 08:48:15 kuupid: Please vote yes on the petition at hand. This is geodudes alt. 2012-02-09 08:47:30 Sabina: and yes coming home more often is a bit of a nuisance, I have used up a heap of travel time the last couple of days 2012-02-09 08:46:23 Sabina: i found some with 33 resin last night, that was such a buzz 2012-02-09 08:45:37 Rabble: It's nice later on when trees go back to 20+ and some have 100+ resin on them 2012-02-09 08:45:15 ellorin: no thrill anymore just means have to come home more often ;) 2012-02-09 08:43:05 Sabina: but that thrill you get when you find a tree that has 100 coconuts on it, or a tree that has more and 3 resin .....ah its like a drug 2012-02-09 08:38:44 Sabina: *sigh* I am so over collecting coconuts and resin 2012-02-09 08:38:17 Minerva: famous last words 2012-02-09 08:37:25 Sabina: hmm doesnt show in the wiki 2012-02-09 08:37:22 sunandshadow: that will do nicely :) 2012-02-09 08:36:48 Rabble: I think it's DoN->LoR->Sinai->DoN 2012-02-09 08:36:17 sunandshadow: I just didn't want to hike there to find myself stuck 2012-02-09 08:35:44 Bri: Yes. 2012-02-09 08:35:43 Imhotep: Mordor 2012-02-09 08:33:01 sunandshadow: is LOR chariot connected to anything yet? 2012-02-09 08:32:31 Minerva: nighty night 2012-02-09 08:15:56 Khama: Night Egypt 2012-02-09 07:40:54 Minerva: but i totally understand if you need an acro break 2012-02-09 07:40:43 Minerva: right, she hasn't paid you for that yet 2012-02-09 07:40:10 WilliamRoberts: :) oh and a wedge for helena... still on my list... 2012-02-09 07:39:16 Minerva: and i'll spend all the time you need if you bring some sweet, sweet garlic ;P 2012-02-09 07:38:51 Minerva: you know where hiro and i live 2012-02-09 07:38:48 Minerva: well, willy, you can always come over 2012-02-09 07:38:37 WilliamRoberts: ok a lot 2012-02-09 07:38:21 WilliamRoberts: I could use some too... 2012-02-09 07:38:10 Minerva: mules aren't good mules without str and dex 2012-02-09 07:37:54 Minerva: i hope so. helena needs some moves 2012-02-09 07:37:26 Rabble: Not until next weekend. But maybe someone else will hold one this weekend 2012-02-09 07:37:03 Minerva: any plans for an acro line anytime soon? 2012-02-09 07:36:27 Minerva: i think her name is fizzles 2012-02-09 07:35:15 Mortality: ;) 2012-02-09 07:34:39 Rabble: I'm absolutely certain that they is some horrible monster that lives in my camp and uses up all my charcoal when I logout. 2012-02-09 07:34:32 blondie: no, forges, specially for 12 nails and gold wire 2012-02-09 07:34:13 blondie: grinder 2012-02-09 07:33:59 EverSky: lol 2012-02-09 07:33:40 silver: not sure if I hate the forge or the grinder more. I seem to get both a lot. 2012-02-09 07:32:06 Articgrey: do they melt well? I need some wire ..... 2012-02-09 07:31:30 Khama: that was a Joke .... silver is actually gold in desguise ;-) 2012-02-09 07:30:13 Khama: OMG ban silver .... he is Geodude ! :-P~ He said, and I quote "I am geodude, come get me" !!! 2012-02-09 07:29:01 Rabble: If you join the same guild, spam PBS with the same comments, and help grief camps the same way, then probably :) 2012-02-09 07:28:19 ellorin: yup ;) 2012-02-09 07:28:05 silver: so if I say, "I am geodude, come get me" I'll be nuked, too? :) 2012-02-09 07:27:19 Rabble: He is Geodude and has admitted it 2012-02-09 07:26:54 Mortality: Has Asheshum been greifing? 2012-02-09 06:20:38 Helena: 11 yield carrots in DoS 2012-02-09 06:10:28 Rabble: Yes. Last Saturday's gypsum dig and cement stirs were both trashed by the server problems. So these are the make-up ones 2012-02-09 06:08:58 Fumen: that's the one that got bombed from the lag, wasn't it? 2012-02-09 06:03:05 Rabble: Another gypsum dig tomorrow night at 11PM EST (roughly 22 hours from now). This is the last gypsum dig I'll have until March. Chat me if you have questions about it 2012-02-09 05:13:17 Articgrey: If you have a moment please come play my Constellation puzzle in SE close to the cs @ 1067, -5575. Thank you :) 2012-02-09 05:07:03 Larame: is there anyone here that has a strong knowlege of ubuntu and network setups, specifically bridging ethernet and wireless? Please PM me 2012-02-09 05:04:53 sunandshadow: what time of day are cicada points usually done? 2012-02-09 05:00:08 Fumen: yeah, forgot about tuitions :) 2012-02-09 04:59:22 sunandshadow: dalessi is the one all the skills tuitions call for 2012-02-09 04:57:59 Fumen: eyelets and any needed for buildings that need to be rebuilt, any needed for individual tests (like pathmaker) 2012-02-09 04:57:25 Fumen: khelben, i'm far from an expert on it, but nobody else seems to be answering, so i'll do my best 2012-02-09 04:52:23 Fumen: there's a list of what the different cuts are used for, but it's in severe need of updating 2012-02-09 04:51:06 Khelben: Hello people could anyone advice me if theres any kind of common gem cuts that is in demand? 2012-02-09 04:11:23 Vae: kimber - watching the vid now... i recognize a lot more of the faces now :D 2012-02-09 04:10:52 truanna: i went from full to salivating for a bacon sammich in an instant 2012-02-09 04:10:51 Feyth: its not dirty my daughter plays sorry to disapoint 2012-02-09 04:10:23 Feyth: i saw bacon popcorn at the store 2012-02-09 04:09:55 truanna: i just want to see feyth's dirty limmerick of a yard design 2012-02-09 04:09:41 Rabble: Oh no, now we're gonna talk about bacon again. And I'm gonna get hungry! 2012-02-09 04:09:19 Jaxum: send Teppy pigs to let him know we want pigs in game. Do something good with your voice, bring bacon to Egypt 2012-02-09 04:06:35 Fumen: would that be a brain shroom rolling in the dirt? 2012-02-09 04:06:06 Kimber: laughs at Vae 2012-02-09 04:05:58 Vae: Xaxyx - > lol 2012-02-09 04:05:56 Feyth: omg dirty minds i have a yard design im working on! 2012-02-09 04:05:34 Jaxum: if it weren't for the gutter my mind would be homeless 2012-02-09 04:05:34 Kimber: gets out the floaty toys 2012-02-09 04:05:32 Xaxyx: And here I thought Rabble's stone obelisk was uncut. 2012-02-09 04:05:30 Vae: There are people dying... and it's time to lend a hand, to life. The greatest gift of allllllllll 2012-02-09 04:05:29 kuupid: he is in the same griefers guild. 2012-02-09 04:05:25 Vae: ... when we heed a certain call... .When the world ... must come together as one... 2012-02-09 04:04:42 truanna: and thus feyth lands us in the gutter, which is of course our natural and most happy state of being 2012-02-09 04:04:39 Vae: There comes a time... 2012-02-09 04:04:08 Feyth: Rabble you can put your cut stone obelisk in my front yard anytime ;P 2012-02-09 04:04:05 Kimber: complaining takes minimal effort... making the world a better place requires like writing a song about it and such as... 2012-02-09 04:03:15 Jaxum: OMG rBBLE YOU PROMISED YOU WOULDNT TELL 2012-02-09 04:03:14 Gyges: Rabble is Geodude. He's going to grief people with cut stone obelisks =( 2012-02-09 04:02:59 Jaxum: ya know i really wish people would put half as much effort into makeing the world a better place as they did gripping about this game 2012-02-09 04:02:52 Kimber: ....who later got a sex change 2012-02-09 04:02:14 Rabble: I heard Jaxum was Geodude's uncle's cousin's barber's neighbor's college roomate 2012-02-09 04:02:13 Vae: well... at least you weren't diggle 2012-02-09 04:01:52 KiwiBird: Can we prove he is an alt of GeoDude, considering we cant see IP numbers of players. 2012-02-09 04:01:31 Feyth: i was meowth 2012-02-09 04:01:30 Xaxyx: Team Rocket?! Ban her !! 2012-02-09 04:01:02 Vae: jaxum - i hear feyth was team rocket in t5 2012-02-09 04:00:50 Zigzag: lol 2012-02-09 04:00:27 Jaxum: i still dont get why i dont get elected DP, i mean i stand on a platform of I will ban anyone on hear say and speculation alone 2012-02-09 03:59:01 Jaxum: woohoo wave the ban stick 2012-02-09 03:58:25 Kanixihk: http://services.atitd.org/log.php 2012-02-09 03:58:23 Kanixihk: I'm sure this is a lost cause, but this was discussed to death a few hours ago... see 2012-02-09 03:58:22 kuupid: Ashkeshum is geodudes alt, and is a greifer. If we don't ban him he will return and do more of what geodude has done 2012-02-09 03:57:53 Gyges: level 1 peasant, member of his guild, hasn't been online? I'm willing to make a leap of faith on that one. 2012-02-09 03:57:36 Xaxyx: Need you even ask? 2012-02-09 03:57:34 Khama: who is it for? 2012-02-09 03:56:43 Feyth: ok for thenew ballot its sure hes an alt of geodude and what did that one do to people? 2012-02-09 03:56:43 Zhukuram: what new ballot? 2012-02-09 03:55:44 kuupid: don't forget to vote on the new ballot 2012-02-09 03:54:52 Kanixihk: then we are in agreement 2012-02-09 03:51:54 truanna: i think making the vast majority of mines public is a great idea. but people don't have to make them public. so i don't get grouchy if they aren't public 2012-02-09 03:50:50 truanna: the new mining system eliminated the need for people to keep all their mines private and within a mat cost-effective number of breakages. 2012-02-09 03:50:47 Kanixihk: oh, ok, I guess I was missing your point entirely 2012-02-09 03:48:55 truanna: there used to be, in tales past, before teppy changed the mining system. which is sort of my point. 2012-02-09 03:46:49 Kanixihk: wow, are there really places like that here truanna? I guess I don't get out much. 2012-02-09 03:46:07 truanna: i like not having to trip over mines that just keep loading every time i take a step. 2012-02-09 03:45:48 truanna: yes, that and having a line of sixty mines on an ore deposit 2012-02-09 03:45:45 Cegaiel: Could always create a ballot like last tale, to where anyone can click Stop Working. 2012-02-09 03:44:12 Kanixihk: do you mean ppl that don't stop working the mine truanna? yeah, for lag reasons I do appreciate when ppl public their mines, or have the dligence not to leave it in working state 2012-02-09 03:44:12 Cegaiel: Well seriously tho, I have seen early in tales when the big rush for dessication gems (huges) are needed and they always camped. But not really at this point 2012-02-09 03:43:17 truanna: but it doesn't have to make sense. there's nothing that says anyone has to make anything public. but public mines do cut down on the massive amounts of clutter 2012-02-09 03:43:16 Kanixihk: seriously though, there exist egyptians who don't have a problem with sharing, but like not having to wait in line to use something they built. I don't object to them keeping their sandmines private, especially at the outset. 2012-02-09 03:43:15 Imhotep: Well I have a sand mine right next to my mud mine and my straw mine 2012-02-09 03:42:21 truanna: i suppose simply that they don't want to share. they don't have to. does it make sense? not really. 2012-02-09 03:41:52 Cegaiel: Well, sand is hard to come by. Maybe they have a big brick project :) 2012-02-09 03:41:51 Kanixihk: how else will I be able to store all my sand? 2012-02-09 03:41:49 Imhotep: I suppose gems and coal.. but not sure why you'd need that much space.. 2012-02-09 03:41:46 Jaxum: yes, have you sen the cost of mines 2012-02-09 03:40:15 Vae: storage for metals is fine... but can anyone justify non-public sand mines? 2012-02-09 03:39:17 Fez: why would I want to build enough WHs to store it all when a mine is a cheaper unlimited storage? no idea what your argument is against that? 2012-02-09 03:38:52 Zaniac: anyways back soon got to get the kiddies from school 2012-02-09 03:37:59 Zaniac: why go for free when you can get your own? 2012-02-09 03:37:58 Zaniac: and that is further from our guild camp too zhukuram :P 2012-02-09 03:37:54 Zhukuram: build a million go for it 2012-02-09 03:36:57 Fez: I always make sure there are public mines around if I build a private one, if not I build a 2nd for the public, but always have a private one for storage on the 3 basic metals 2012-02-09 03:36:57 Zhukuram: well you still could have had all the copper you wanted for Free a few minutes away from there ROFL 2012-02-09 03:36:24 Aetherfang: ah, k 2012-02-09 03:35:20 Zaniac: if yoru refering to the guild one that we have up there then yes it is private cause fez was teaching me mining and it has a stock of 90k ore we have not moved yet 2012-02-09 03:34:34 Rabble: No, I was told about it during the pheonix race (near the start of the tale) and mentioned it while I was chasing down a statue in DoS 2012-02-09 03:34:24 Zhukuram: you can do what you like with you mines but there's a public one a short run from where he built his in MV CS - he could have had all he wanted for FREE ROFL 2012-02-09 03:33:48 Aetherfang: oh, I thought you had posted from personal knowledge, was wondering why it wasn't up anymore 2012-02-09 03:33:07 Fez: what if people have mine private and also build a public mine right next door, one for storage and one for the public to use, is that not allowed any more Zhukuram? 2012-02-09 03:32:44 Xaxyx: Is the achievement floating around? 2012-02-09 03:32:24 Rabble: I posted that I was told it worked that way. When I tried to narrow down the information, I never got confirmation 2012-02-09 03:32:24 Zaniac: well i guess thats where you are wrong :D cause close to me is mines private and they are new ppl :P 2012-02-09 03:31:55 Jaxum: and peppers 2012-02-09 03:31:55 Aetherfang: rabble, was it you that posted that you got extra seeds once at the height of a carrot wave? 2012-02-09 03:31:47 Zhukuram: only old timers dont make mines public 2012-02-09 03:31:41 Fumen: the only thing avatar specific is garlic 2012-02-09 03:31:04 Zaniac: umm how did i bring it? 2012-02-09 03:31:03 Yerbouti: i love the wave 2012-02-09 03:30:57 Aetherfang: I was just checking to make certain it's not avatar specific, though everything I've read said it wasn't 2012-02-09 03:30:56 Vae: i'd like a carrot wave now :D 2012-02-09 03:30:32 Fumen: we call that "carrot surfing" :) 2012-02-09 03:30:04 Vae: aether - absolutely... and i've found it in one place as it was leaving, and caught it again after nav-ing :d 2012-02-09 03:29:59 Zhukuram: yes - the carrots get up and do THE WAVE! 2012-02-09 03:29:38 Aetherfang: k, thanks 2012-02-09 03:29:37 Jaxum: nope never 2012-02-09 03:29:17 Rabble: yes, multiple times 2012-02-09 03:29:00 Aetherfang: random question related to my studies right now, has anybody heard about a carrot wave from someone else and caught it as well? I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but just want to check 2012-02-09 03:29:00 Fumen: \ 2012-02-09 03:28:07 Zhukuram: thinks Zan is bringing old tale stuff to new tale :) 2012-02-09 03:25:12 ellorin: messing pretty Egypt up 2012-02-09 03:25:12 emeraldlily: my thinking is a new player would care or know to do that...so it's a trial mule to save clay 2012-02-09 03:25:12 Vae: truanna- i've intended on outlawing private /sand/ mines. who stores stuff therE? 2012-02-09 03:25:12 truanna: i wouldn't ignore lines of them.... someone needs a talking to or is, in fact, someone banned by the anti griefer act... ;oP @ vae 2012-02-09 03:24:12 Vae: i think i'll go draft a law that bans anyone for 8 hours for mentioning griefers banned by the anti-griefer act :D 2012-02-09 03:23:45 emeraldlily: i would ignore any signs or bonfires on clay built by an initiate 2012-02-09 03:23:45 truanna: no, there's not much point in keeping a mine private, unless as zaniac said it's to store the ore 2012-02-09 03:23:07 ellorin: thinks of geodude not much different ultimately unless someone intends to remove them 2012-02-09 03:22:45 Vae: the first ones are just litter too 2012-02-09 03:22:39 Zaniac: but they might store 100k ore who knows? 2012-02-09 03:22:23 ellorin: indeed it is just litters the place up 2012-02-09 03:22:01 ellorin: on top of others already put there 2012-02-09 03:21:47 Zhukuram: why? its easy to get? 2012-02-09 03:21:42 Xaxyx: Lol, what do they say? 2012-02-09 03:21:22 ellorin: ok so who is Belinea trial account building signposts all over clay spots now? 2012-02-09 03:21:22 Zaniac: Zhukuram incase ppl are stroing ores? 2012-02-09 03:19:48 truanna: well i hope it's this one, that way i can finally stop worrying about my debt and start worrying about being eaten my creepy dead people 2012-02-09 03:19:17 Zhukuram: q: I thought there wasnt much point in keeping mines private? is that not true? I see new ones make that are private? 2012-02-09 03:19:17 ellorin: might not if we don't win our austrlian one though... 2012-02-09 03:17:57 Vae: truanna - it'll happen in december... just /which/ december is the question 2012-02-09 03:17:24 silver: even if you live in the USA, and your Team doesn't win the Presidential election in November, the world will go on? really? 2012-02-09 03:15:23 truanna: fumen are you telling me that the promised zombie apocalypse will not kick off in december? 2012-02-09 02:51:18 Laf: trade done 2012-02-09 02:47:20 obi: omw 2012-02-09 02:47:04 Rabble: * Cuttables dig starting @ 1380, -1010 (just north of 7L cs) in 15 minutes * 2012-02-09 02:46:29 Fumen: there's going to be a lot of things end this year, but the world won't be one of them 2012-02-09 02:46:29 Khama: heehee, ya caught that did you ;-) 2012-02-09 02:42:30 Helena: lol@ feb 31 2012-02-09 02:42:14 Helena: but the world ends this year! 2012-02-09 02:41:08 Khama: naaaa, with the conversion it works out to be later = February 31st, 2016 ;-) 2012-02-09 02:39:41 silver: let's just say I wouldn't be doing any breath holding. 2012-02-09 02:39:16 LuluDivine: later = never? 2012-02-09 02:38:56 Feyth: dont forget to covert the later to teppy time 2012-02-09 02:36:01 Khama: Thanks for the specifics 2012-02-09 02:36:01 Khama: ahhhh, ..... marks "Later" on his calendar 2012-02-09 02:33:45 Imhotep: later 2012-02-09 02:31:49 Khama: Any idea or clue's as to when the DPA will be out of "testing" ?? 2012-02-09 02:28:33 Trillian: omw to rat 2012-02-09 02:26:32 lilac: rat -2607 -3503 he's moving, so still good 2012-02-09 02:19:32 Jaxum: OE scarab garden is over 2012-02-09 02:14:48 silver: but any amount is welcome, of course :) 2012-02-09 02:14:43 silver: dig lasts an hour. might be more than one stick 2012-02-09 02:14:10 Rabble: btw, I am also out of incense. If anyone coming to the dig has +endurance incense and wants to bring and burn one stick, that would be great :) 2012-02-09 02:13:20 Vae: <3 Tunnen ... or the Shpleeeeen? 2012-02-09 02:13:10 silver: I can't tell if I'm getting more rare(r) ones because I've gotten a lot of commons (like some kind of hidden counter increasing that influences but does not dictate probability), or if it's just confirmation bias. 2012-02-09 02:11:59 Sabina: hmm I havent upgraded mine in a while lol 2012-02-09 02:11:15 Alexi: maybe around the same time i got arthropodology 3? 2012-02-09 02:09:35 Sabina: i am still getting heaps of bugs 2012-02-09 02:09:15 Rabble: I got a bat mite and some clearwings yesterday 2012-02-09 02:09:01 Tunnen: Oh, can I be the Blue Raja then? Or Mr Furious? =P 2012-02-09 02:08:58 Alexi: anyone else not collecting any insects lately? i haven't gotten one in days... 2012-02-09 02:08:13 Ketu: Does that make Rabble the Shovler? 2012-02-09 02:08:07 Vae: or is it RABBLE?! ;) 2012-02-09 02:07:43 Rabble: * Cuttables dig starts at 7L cs in one hour * Food provided * Bring a shovel (I am out of spares atm) * 2012-02-09 02:07:43 Imhotep: :) 2012-02-09 02:07:42 Bri: mafia was the top of the griefer evolutionary chain. 2012-02-09 02:07:42 Helena: needs to create coughing and weezy to get some DR shrooms 2012-02-09 02:07:04 Vae: i thought augir was graveler 2012-02-09 02:06:23 Sobe: Although Geodude can Evolve into Gravler 2012-02-09 02:06:00 Bri: groans. "Bad Imhotep. BAD!" 2012-02-09 02:05:45 oDiS: he did those while the geodude character was jailed 2012-02-09 02:05:45 oDiS: he guild is called Team Rocket. If you want to find the buildings built by ashkeshum, ask kupid 2012-02-09 02:05:20 Imhotep: anyway they can't possibly be the same people. Ash wasn't in team rocket.. everyone knows that. duh! 2012-02-09 02:05:19 Marlie: Mork and Mindy....that was a great tv show! :) 2012-02-09 02:04:41 Helena: or team rocket? 2012-02-09 02:04:21 Sobe: Unless he comes back as Brock or Mindy 2012-02-09 02:04:19 oDiS: well lulu, it may say that, but we'll see if teppy codes that. 2012-02-09 02:04:15 Helena: it doesn't matter who owns the stuff, if geodude built it, it comes down 2012-02-09 02:03:44 oDiS: ashkeshum has been confirmed on multiple occasions to in fact be geodude. Ban him, trial or not, and geodude is gone for the rest of the tale no matter what account. 2012-02-09 02:03:41 Helena: watch him log in at the 11th hour if he's not banned 2012-02-09 02:03:39 LuluDivine: oDiS, the law was written to tear down anything geodude built, regardless of who owns it. 2012-02-09 02:02:38 Helena: and the fact that ash is a trial account? 2012-02-09 02:02:26 Sabina: he hasnt logged in, in 8 days we might be able to DPA instead 2012-02-09 02:02:24 oDiS: Not only that but some of the geodude grief buildings is GUILDED. Ashkeshum is an edler in the guild, so until he is banned or EXPIRED, the stuff cannot be removed. 2012-02-09 02:02:00 Philadelphia: we got a troll, not a witch, Tunnen!!!! :p 2012-02-09 02:01:55 Bri: Please give me a couple locations to check out then. Then I'll definately vote to ban 2012-02-09 02:01:47 oDiS: Bri, he did do ill on ahkeshum 2012-02-09 02:01:44 oDiS: In Egypt if you are banned by a DP you are free to play on any other character. Banned twice by a dp, and it is a perma ban 2012-02-09 02:01:34 Rabble: He griefed people on both avatars, Bri 2012-02-09 02:01:15 Tunnen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g 2012-02-09 02:01:14 Rabble: Aye, that is correct 2012-02-09 02:01:14 Bri: Even if he is the same person, the avatar shouldn't be banned unless it does ill. 2012-02-09 02:01:04 LuluDivine: Ashkeshum I believe admitted he was geodude multiple times 2012-02-09 02:00:57 Sabina: Ashkeshum is a trial account 2012-02-09 02:00:51 Rabble: He stated he was the same person once he was discovered and accussed, Bri 2012-02-09 02:00:50 Fumen: the law reads that "the player that built it" 2012-02-09 02:00:50 LuluDivine: the law was written to snag anything geodude built, regardless of who owns it 2012-02-09 02:00:31 Bri: Wait, we are banning someone else now? I agree with geodude's and butterfree's bans. But what proof do we have of this new dude/ 2012-02-09 02:00:16 diania: i dunno, but usually in most games if you are banned, your alts are also banned. I don't think it is this way in egypt though. 2012-02-09 02:00:02 oDiS: ashkeshum IS geodude, just to clea the air. He griefed on that character as well. Not only that, but some of geodude's stuff is guilded, and won;'t be able to be torn down until ashkeshum is either banned or unpaid. 2012-02-09 01:58:57 StarGazeR: ok so I have a question.. as far as this Law goes IF Ashkeshum is NOT banned from the game this time, can they be put on the ballot again? 2012-02-09 01:58:56 Imhotep: what did they do that was so horribly bad? 2012-02-09 01:57:51 Bri: I want some lawn ornaments... I'm just worried people will grab them 2012-02-09 01:57:30 Rabble: Ashkeshum is Geodude's alt. Like Geodude, he would logout whenever kuupid was online or got close so she wasn't able to ban him via normal DP methods 2012-02-09 01:56:43 Tamutnefret: There's only one person who is able to start such a ballot at the mioment. 2012-02-09 01:56:31 emeraldlily: thank goodness 2012-02-09 01:56:30 Xaxyx: Because he's a friend of Geodude, he acted like a complete ass, and he's the last remaining member of Team Rocket. 2012-02-09 01:56:10 Morrigan: And so we switch from Egyptian politics to lynchings. 2012-02-09 01:56:10 Waerloga: who started that ballot? 2012-02-09 01:55:20 Morrigan: They are lawn ornaments, Bri. 2012-02-09 01:55:20 Philadelphia: well then why is Ashkeshum on the block? 2012-02-09 01:55:20 StarGazeR: I think they are Flamingos also..... LIES LIES LIES they tell us LIES 2012-02-09 01:55:20 Minerva: ah, a ballot for ash 2012-02-09 01:55:19 Vae: it's likely that we'll have more fun from the player who ran geodude, but it's just as likely that someone will unfairly get blaimed for that. 2012-02-09 01:54:34 Xaxyx: I asked kuupid that specifically, and she asserted that Ashkeshum hasn't done so. 2012-02-09 01:54:33 Bri: FLAMINGOS?!? You don't say? 2012-02-09 01:54:02 LuluDivine: Anish, I believe there are a number of griefer buildings built by Ashkeshum - perhaps someone else can definitively verify that. 2012-02-09 01:54:01 Minerva: thought he was banned 2012-02-09 01:54:01 Sabina: well you know what? those arent actually Ibis, they are FLAMINGOS! lol 2012-02-09 01:53:06 Anish: everyone has been mentioning that ashkeshum is geodude, and I heard all about geodude's griefing, but has the avatar Ashkeshum actually been doing any griefing does anyone know? 2012-02-09 01:52:04 Bri: Nope, don't know a thing about ibis sightings. Tell me more. It'll be a better chat. ;) 2012-02-09 01:51:20 allmighty: does anyone know of ibis sighting 2012-02-09 01:51:11 LuluDivine: if someone other than those who timered it had wandered over to the EG uni during that 24 hour period to check it, it would have been known also... 2012-02-09 01:51:10 Zaniac: cries at the 1500 ash gone poof 2012-02-09 01:51:04 silver: if he still cared, this is the kind of chat Teppy would laugh laugh and laugh about. they did hard work, they got rewarded. moving on. 2012-02-09 01:50:58 Rahu: Down with the wiki and up with disorder! 2012-02-09 01:50:52 Kyline: its now known* 2012-02-09 01:50:24 Kyline: So what if its not known? its not known and thats all that counts in the long run. 2012-02-09 01:50:24 Tamutnefret: The population was 769 a couple of days ago. 2012-02-09 01:49:51 Rabble: Aye, but again, so what? The critical diffrence is that it was known long before it went off timer and became available 2012-02-09 01:49:51 Fumen: just be glad you don't have to open the tech in your own region to learn it. otherwise, only people with it would be in 7L and EG right now 2012-02-09 01:49:17 LuluDivine: Rabble, it was known because someone other than the person who timered it wandered over to check the uni. 2012-02-09 01:49:17 silver: down by at least one, Philly. buybye Geodude :) 2012-02-09 01:49:06 Dreasimy: good thing all these people wont be using the publicly accessible ovens :D more tiles for the rest of us 2012-02-09 01:48:54 Daenerys: Right, but why would they feel the need when they were dominating as much as they already are? 2012-02-09 01:48:26 Maata: they said what the point was, they wanted a jump on the resin, there is no rule against that 2012-02-09 01:48:16 Rabble: So what, lulu? It was *known* long before it was unlocked. People were counting down the hours. 2012-02-09 01:48:16 silver: they were clearly forward thinking enough to be collecting thousands of all resins long before it was known which were needed for research or oven building. we all should have done that, and bitching because we were too lazy rather than saying "good for you for putting the work in" is just wasteful. 2012-02-09 01:48:15 Philadelphia: our population is down from 795 last week. 2012-02-09 01:48:15 Tamutnefret: There is no slippery slope. If anything, we're "sliding" in the opposite direction. You should have seen T1 and T2. 2012-02-09 01:47:46 Fumen: trillian: the point is that it is all a gift. at least SOIMEONE is willing to work on opening techs in this world so that we can progress 2012-02-09 01:47:46 LuluDivine: No, it was announced quite a few hours after it was put on timer Rabble. The person who timered it did not announce it. 2012-02-09 01:47:45 Daenerys: Maata - that leaves open the question even more, what was the point exactly? As though the fact that they have double or triple the ovens of everyone else as is wasn't enough? 2012-02-09 01:47:17 Bri: Can we be done argueing about this? I'm not going to take sides but folks, remember that Egypt has several ways of expressing your displeasure. If you don't agree with what FoA did, you don't have to interact or trade with them - it is entirely up to you. 2012-02-09 01:47:01 Rabble: Of course it's different. 7L updated the wiki daily. And when it was on timer, it was announced on PBS and other channels. 2012-02-09 01:46:55 Trillian: and your point Fumen Rahu Lulu? they tried to keep it a secret? well thats no better and no reason to do likewise- this is where the slippery slope is to no one helping anyone.... 2012-02-09 01:46:43 Maata: FOA would have a ton of ovens with or without a jump start on one resin because they put the effort in, last tale people were mad also, lets move on 2012-02-09 01:46:42 Philadelphia: census of permanent citizens if anyone cares: 778 2012-02-09 01:46:19 Rahu: But that's different or something Lulu... 2012-02-09 01:46:01 Kyline: yep someone dumped 1k saltpeter in to woodtreament in OE, whoever it was i thank them, it would have held us back another 3-4 days. I did thank them in here at the time. 2012-02-09 01:45:37 LuluDivine: Incidentally, that person did not announce or wiki 7L either... 2012-02-09 01:44:56 Fumen: *person or group 2012-02-09 01:44:56 Fumen: does it matter who did it? no. i like to think of that person as santa claus and we woke up on christmas morning to a present 2012-02-09 01:44:32 Fumen: trillian: someone outside 7L research came and pumped several thousand resin into it to finish it off and put it on a timer 2012-02-09 01:43:50 Kyline: honestly they are just trying to defend themselves, if you just said thanks for the extra resin reali tech then SHUT THE HECK UP it would be over. 2012-02-09 01:43:49 LuluDivine: Waerloga, I think we've been pretty clear on our motives. 2012-02-09 01:43:49 Rahu: Trillian, possibly. Might not be just a guild but an entire region. And advantage is an advantage. 2012-02-09 01:43:20 Trillian: Cause people were told 7L raeli pottery was open - ie it was shared with everyone within a brief period of time 2012-02-09 01:43:19 CHART: we should get a lottery going on how long everyone is going to beat this to death :) 2012-02-09 01:42:45 Leghk: Tortellini: Take two waffles and don't call me in the morning. 2012-02-09 01:42:44 Waerloga: The problem I have is how they try to spin things, they do something for selfish reasons, then try to spin it to make it sound like they do it to give back to the community 2012-02-09 01:42:44 Trillian: Are there other guilds out there, opening raeli pottery in secret to get an advantage though? would anyone else hand on heart - do that? 2012-02-09 01:42:03 Rahu: Why is it shared information? 2012-02-09 01:42:03 Tunnen: Question about ovens and percentages, If you burn an oven with 9 tiles, and you get to keep 10%. Does that mean you end up with 0 tiles? Basically which way does the system round the fraction? In favour of the user, the owner, or just anything above .5 is rounded up? 2012-02-09 01:40:56 Skyfeather: I'm sure we're *far* from the only guild, even large guild, that didn't contribute resins to raeli pottery in 7L 2012-02-09 01:40:55 LuluDivine: Incidentally, I believe *I* passed Funerary Temple last tale without burning a single FoA oven..... 2012-02-09 01:40:54 Tortellini: I demand a cure for pancakes! 2012-02-09 01:40:54 Kyline: Okay everyone that doesn't appareciate the fact FoA unlocked another resin please do not build a spindle reali oven. If you can't appreciate the work they did just don't use it. Frankly I'm happy to have another resin and think your ungratful brats. 2012-02-09 01:40:54 Vae: i think the real problem is that too many people pass the temple :D 2012-02-09 01:40:54 amron: nobody expects The Spanish inquisition 2012-02-09 01:40:53 Skyfeather: Trillian, you may as well make that argument to every other person in Egypt who didn't contribute to 7L research though 2012-02-09 01:40:53 Nchanter: I really don't understand why it would be better if we had kept the ovens private. can someone please send me a PM explaining it to me? (I don't want to fuel this further, but I'm really confused) 2012-02-09 01:40:53 Morrigan: They do not have to read this, they can log. Prisoners of the Inquisition never had that option. 2012-02-09 01:40:52 Tamutnefret: You get a lot more than 200 tiles later in the game. But you don't know that, because (as you said) you left earlier in the tale. 2012-02-09 01:39:18 Feyth: you know id like to point out this very thing reminds me of The Spanish Inquisition, The person in question may not be guilty of the crimes accussed but the torture is so horrible they admit anything to make it stop 2012-02-09 01:39:17 Soylas: I passed last telling without burning a single FoA oven =)... it was amazing! 63k points! 2012-02-09 01:38:46 Morrigan: on 200 tiles at a time, you never pass. 2012-02-09 01:38:45 Trillian: they used shared information - then didn't share it - Rahu how can I be clearer on that? nothign to do with tiles - tax or 20% - couldnt care less - its the lack of cooperation - which we all rely on usually that sucks to be honest 2012-02-09 01:38:45 Imhotep: by that logic, if you don't have a job and arn't buying things you aren't getting taxed in real life... 2012-02-09 01:38:08 Tamutnefret: You can pass. You just won't pass first. 2012-02-09 01:38:06 LuluDivine: Imhotep - if the 80/20 ratio is not to your liking, don't burn them. I don't understand why this is such a weird concept. 2012-02-09 01:37:37 Rahu: They aren't taxing anyone since they aren't forcing anyone to burn the ovens. Or did I miss a law that states that I must spend time using FoA ovens? 2012-02-09 01:37:33 Vae: morrigan - why should it work? is there some expectation that everyone can pass a certain test? 2012-02-09 01:37:31 Tamutnefret: You've been told at least 5 times now Morrigan that you left the game way too early. And you keep claiming it doesn't work for the whole game. 2012-02-09 01:37:06 Philadelphia: true that silver! 2012-02-09 01:36:54 Trillian: if you get a benefit from something , why act against it?? it would be like gaining from social security benefits and then you start working and refuse to pay tax , as a very broad analogy 2012-02-09 01:36:51 Tamutnefret: Sure it works. 2012-02-09 01:36:51 silver: no, we're kvetching because it wouldn't be teppygypt if we didn't complain about something. 2012-02-09 01:36:48 Dreasimy: ironically one of the people put on trial is a wiki admin ;D 2012-02-09 01:36:33 Imhotep: evidently uoi can also vote poeple out of egypt now to. you could always go that route. but if you are taxing someone 80% and wonder why they get mad, something is probably wrong with you. 2012-02-09 01:36:32 Morrigan: yeah, I tried to do a funerary temple on publis ovens, it doesn't work. 2012-02-09 01:35:52 Vae: are we seriously putting someone on trial for not updating the wiki on purpose? 2012-02-09 01:35:49 Fumen: wiking: what Chekov calls nordic raiders ;) 2012-02-09 01:35:32 silver: there's a solution for that, Morrigan: don't go :) 2012-02-09 01:35:18 Trillian: to be clearer, if you hadn't used 7L tech - freely shared - and built hawthorn ovens firstly, then I'd get that you want to unlcok tech for yourselves and not share it with others, but if you use the fact others share information as a benefit - and then don't do the same, it's not good now is it really? 2012-02-09 01:35:17 Morrigan: and because it's publis, there will be few tiles in there, even fewer with this policy. 2012-02-09 01:35:10 Vae: wiking?" 2012-02-09 01:35:01 Skyfeather: Yeah, we aren't saying that was mutually beneficial Trillian. We do think the *research* is mutually benificial, but not the deciding not to wiki it part 2012-02-09 01:34:54 diania: seriously though, to be perfectly honest, FOA worked hard they deserve to reap the rewards of their hard work. 2012-02-09 01:34:47 Morrigan: work = travael to some destination, waiting while it burns... 2012-02-09 01:34:44 Fumen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVvlVHdLCx0 2012-02-09 01:34:20 Nchanter: I disagree with your characterization that anyone in FoA was tryign to spin not-wiking raeli pottery in eastern grounds was beneficial to other people. 2012-02-09 01:34:18 Fumen: you know, all this makes me think of a song by one artist that goes by the name Dr. Steel 2012-02-09 01:34:17 LuluDivine: oh, no, I never meant to suggest it was mutually beneficial to secretly unlock it. 2012-02-09 01:34:17 silver: and the cost is "25cc and no work", Morrigan. just saying :) 2012-02-09 01:33:21 Morrigan: ROFL Fumen 2012-02-09 01:33:21 Trillian: oh burning the oven might be mutually benefcial , that wasn't the spin I meant, keeping secret the unlocking - wasn't mutually beneficial , on the whole I see you trying to argue again that it was beneficial to others to do it that way - it wasn't is my only point 2012-02-09 01:33:14 Rahu: Can you make aquaduct towers private? If so I think FoA should totally do that especially if they get some nice veggie yields. 2012-02-09 01:33:03 Daenerys: straw man! 2012-02-09 01:32:58 Soylas: burn em all white? lol 2012-02-09 01:32:55 silver: they aren't taking clay pits in people's camps 2012-02-09 01:32:54 Imhotep: I honestly wouldn't have gone lower than 50%, but your oven, so what you want. 2012-02-09 01:32:54 Dreasimy: of course you are doing them a favor, that's an oven those people didnt have to donate materials to get access to.... you know, the normal way of getting access to a resource, working for it :D 2012-02-09 01:32:48 Morrigan: if that's a public oven - and used by many - am I gonna get 10 tiles for my CC and work, while you get 40? 2012-02-09 01:32:45 Fumen: you knowwhat you do to really get back? go and burn all the ovens black. that'll teach em to only leave it at 80% 2012-02-09 01:32:43 LuluDivine: Ok, so is the argument that we're bad for just having lots of ovens Imhotep? 2012-02-09 01:32:08 Imhotep: err.... even with aqueduct... I can see why people would be upset if you are taking up a whole lot of clay pits. 20%? really? 2012-02-09 01:32:08 Nchanter: we got *less* than 2 days. 2012-02-09 01:31:47 Waerloga: That's like claiming paying well below average wages to a worker is mutually benificial to both parties, don't pretend you're doing anyone a favor by setting them to 20% 2012-02-09 01:31:32 oDiS: Capitalism at its best. 2012-02-09 01:31:30 Rahu: People talk as if no region/guild has even in the history of the game has never kept something opening on the DL in order to get a headstart. It happens nearly every tale for some tech or the other. 2012-02-09 01:31:30 menoblack: in rl the inventor/researcher of something gets 70 years of profit for it, in game foa got 2 days, what's the fuss about? 2012-02-09 01:31:22 oDiS: That's the way business works Daenerys. Say I need Fire Rock marble. And I have a good feeling there might be Fire Rock in your camp. If I take my time to go up to your hours, prospect out a spot that happens to be in your CP, you're damn straight I'm going to build that quarry. 2012-02-09 01:31:03 LuluDivine: user keeps 20%, guild keeps 80%. At least until Aqueduct needs are completed. 2012-02-09 01:30:46 Vae: me bad math 2012-02-09 01:30:46 Dreasimy: the people who didn't build the oven get to keep 20% 2012-02-09 01:30:45 LuluDivine: Getting a 'head start' doesn't deprive anyone of anything. Everyone was always free to gather resin from any tree in egypt. 2012-02-09 01:30:24 Imhotep: wait... maybe I'm confused. you get to keep 20% of your tiles or 80%? 2012-02-09 01:30:04 silver: meh. for the effort, each Heaven should have counted as +1 to all the 6 types below it or something. and had something special besides. 2012-02-09 01:29:56 Vae: blueshift - that'd be cool 2012-02-09 01:29:55 Daenerys: But you obviously wanted to deprive others of resources so that they could build their own "capital" if you will, when you decided to get a head start. :) 2012-02-09 01:29:48 Soylas: Let's pass a law that says if you don't want to burn an oven, you don't have to... wait a minute... 2012-02-09 01:29:39 Anish: well prettiness counts for alot these days 2012-02-09 01:29:11 Blueshift: It should be something cool that justifies the effort - like reducing the number of peeps it takes to finish a monument 2012-02-09 01:29:01 oDiS: <3 pheely 2012-02-09 01:28:59 Rabble: But it was by far the prettiest pyramid ever. Doesn't that count for something? 2012-02-09 01:28:59 Aarys: yes beer. i have a great keetle spot, and shockingly everyone is too distracted to notice 2012-02-09 01:28:58 silver: that's a lameass reward. 2012-02-09 01:28:58 LuluDivine: Trillian, I don't think we are spinning it. If the deal isn't mutually beneficial - don't burn the ovens. It's really simple. 2012-02-09 01:28:27 Gumby: the reward was you get +1 level for going to visit it 2012-02-09 01:28:21 Trillian: it's not mutually benefical at all 2012-02-09 01:28:19 Blueshift: One instant level! You know, because level 47 is so much better than 46 2012-02-09 01:28:16 Philadelphia: my reward is to spend eternity with oDiS 2012-02-09 01:28:14 Vae: did someone say beer? 2012-02-09 01:28:12 oDiS: So if someone wants to burn them, moe power to them. 2012-02-09 01:28:09 sallah-hazerah: Tithing is not for God it is for the Church 2012-02-09 01:28:02 Trillian: yeah am not buying the back tracking here... you can't attach words like fair and balanced and it will help ...etc , motive was clearly stated previously it makes sense, stop spinning it, I watch parliament tv when I feel the need for 'spin' 2012-02-09 01:27:48 silver: what was the reward for heaven? 2012-02-09 01:27:48 sallah-hazerah: who wants a reward in a place that probably does not exist 2012-02-09 01:27:47 Anish: what is the reward for heaven? 2012-02-09 01:27:45 oDiS: Personally, if I can only walk aay with 20%, I'm not burning the oven unless there is >30,000 tiles in it. My time doesn't come cheap. :P 2012-02-09 01:27:44 Kanixihk: what is it again? 2012-02-09 01:26:59 Blueshift: yeah the reward for heaven is stupid. it's like a slap in the face 2012-02-09 01:26:48 LuluDivine: Daenerys, it's mutually beneficial - how is that exploitative? If you feel 20% tiles isn't enough of a benefit, it's simple: don't burn them. 2012-02-09 01:26:46 Morrigan: So define WHo is explointing WHOM? 2012-02-09 01:26:18 Soylas: Well, it's also a voluntary relationship, but... 2012-02-09 01:26:08 Aarys: i think beer is an excellent subject 2012-02-09 01:26:07 Rahu: Yes, politics is a slightly tamer subject. :) 2012-02-09 01:26:07 Philadelphia: kind of like an oxy-moron, no? but then, there was EVita 2012-02-09 01:26:04 Gumby: Rabble, I did the pyarmid thing a couple tales ago. 2 DO, 5 Renewal, 6 DPs, 7 MW, and 1 Heaven. The reward for heaven was completely stupid so I didn't build anymore. 2012-02-09 01:25:48 Daenerys: It's an exploitive relationship. 2012-02-09 01:25:48 sallah-hazerah: but i like the topic i suppose if i did build bonfires over a clay field someone would cry GREEEEEEFFFFEEEERRRRRR 2012-02-09 01:25:47 silver: you're looking the wrong places, then, Morrigan. you're looking where all the noisy people are chatting. 2012-02-09 01:24:40 Soylas: I was hoping to change the subject to politics... got a few off topic... woo 2012-02-09 01:24:38 Morrigan: sees little benevolence amidst all this blatant greed.. 2012-02-09 01:24:23 Rahu: Egypt is what happens when you let the inmates run the asylum. 2012-02-09 01:24:12 sallah-hazerah: lol i think i will so i can get a oven of my own 2012-02-09 01:24:11 Philadelphia: benevolent dictatorship 2012-02-09 01:24:10 Morrigan: peopled by fascistas? 2012-02-09 01:24:09 sallah-hazerah: then they cant build 2012-02-09 01:23:45 Tamutnefret: Egypt is a dilatory dictatorship. 2012-02-09 01:23:39 LuluDivine: If 20% isn't enough of an incentive to go burn them, then we'll have to burn them ourselves. That's life. An ideal balance is where the person burning them feels like they are benefitting from the tiles, and we feel like we are benefitting from getting them burned. 2012-02-09 01:23:36 sallah-hazerah: or if your really nasty build 1 wood bonfires over a clay patch you want to keep 2012-02-09 01:23:18 Rahu: Of course but it's not like people that don't like them are forced to use them. If they don't like the 20% then wait and see if they adjust the percentage up. 2012-02-09 01:23:04 Skyfeather: We are somewhat shooting ourselves in the foot for tiles for aqueduct, it would go faster if we kept our ovens private. 2012-02-09 01:22:55 Morrigan: ohoh, Egypt is Fascist is it? 2012-02-09 01:22:18 silver: don't be silly, Rahu. if they left all their ovens private, they'd have to go fire them up themselves :) 2012-02-09 01:22:09 Soylas: I, for one, am against socialism in all it's forms, including in digital Egypt =). So, rock on FoA. Maybe Sky should be the FoA PR officer. 2012-02-09 01:21:58 oDiS: Thank you guys for actually making this conversion move somewhere instead of playing ping pong. Very nice to see. :) 2012-02-09 01:21:55 Phoenixwcu: We are retired from research. We just unlocked a few techs that are convient to have in our region 2012-02-09 01:21:51 Rabble: Build 7 pyramids of heaven please :) 2012-02-09 01:21:50 Philadelphia: <---will not be building anything with tiles probably this tale, except for maybe a stray aquetower, just cuz it ain't feasible and ain't fun if it ain't feasible. 2012-02-09 01:21:35 Jama: + 2012-02-09 01:21:34 Skyfeather: We don't want exclusivity for tiles because if we did, people would expect us to trade, and we don't really want to take the time and energy to do raeli tile trades like, say, CotF did last tale 2012-02-09 01:21:29 Gumby: Meh, I don't care about politics or tests. I just like trying to find things to do that haven't been done. 2012-02-09 01:21:13 Tamutnefret: This is one of the few tales where they actually succeeded in gettign it open with nobody bothering to check in the preceding 24 hours. 2012-02-09 01:21:05 Rahu: Yes, 20% may not seem like a lot, but for those people that don't have the resources and/or time to make their own ovens or be in guilds with their own ovens that is potentially a lot of times that only costs some cc and time. 2012-02-09 01:20:55 Skyfeather: Here's the for the community part: We *don't* have an interest in keeping exclusivity on raeli tiles. There is some self interest on making our ovens semi-public, but if that were our only reason, we'd keep all the ovens we plan to use for Aqueduct private until it's up, which we AREN'T doing. 2012-02-09 01:20:44 Daenerys: It's interesting because they announced that they were retired from research, but yet this is manifesting in the same sort of way. They aren't really retired, they are just making sure they "help" the community in a different way. I recall last tale a few instances where some members defended various things as "for research". Now it is "for the community to have 20% of our tiles" - 2012-02-09 01:20:40 Augir: well said Blueshift 2012-02-09 01:19:42 Rahu: Yes, if they wanted to be totally not for the community they would have left all their ovens private. 2012-02-09 01:19:36 Blueshift: It really doesn't matter what FoA does... they really aren't stopping you from doing anything you need to in the game. You can still pass any test or do any activity that is fun for you if you put effort forth 2012-02-09 01:19:29 Nchanter: If you want to hate me/us, really that's fine. that' your perogative. Just please hate me for the things I actually do, not the things that other peopel say I'm doing. That is *all* I ask. 2012-02-09 01:19:26 DisShovel: One think I am pretty sure of: Attitudes about almost anything are not unversal in Egypt 2012-02-09 01:19:22 Tamutnefret: Someone *always* tries to put one on timer without telling anyone. 2012-02-09 01:18:54 Soylas: maybe I was exagerating the "love us"... geez, that's not the point. But I have heard several times in this conversation "for the community" Anyways, my point was also that I appreciate the honesty this time around. Take it or leave it. Closest I'll get to complementing FoA =) 2012-02-09 01:18:44 Tamutnefret: Besides which, not checking all the universities around raeli time is just laziness :-) 2012-02-09 01:17:40 Rahu: Which sucks for them since they catch flak for doing anything that isn't 100% selfless and for the great good. 2012-02-09 01:17:32 Tamutnefret: That is awesome Imhotep :-) 2012-02-09 01:17:23 Minerva: until they run for demipharaoh 2012-02-09 01:17:10 Imhotep: if they were really trying to make you mad, they would charge you bit coins to use the ovens. ;) 2012-02-09 01:17:09 Blueshift: "The Effects of Raeli Research Deception on the Mood of Egypt" 2012-02-09 01:17:02 Pameow: Nobody is in any way obliged to give anything "back to the community", nor should they have to explain their motives. 20% is plenty, for the cost of some time and charcoal. Thanks FoA people. 2012-02-09 01:16:59 Tamutnefret: I don't recall FoA sayign anything this tale about "love us because we're working for the community". 2012-02-09 01:16:53 Rahu: I don't see anyone in FoA saying that we should love them. I think they are just a popular target for people to hate against. 2012-02-09 01:16:50 Shiranai: btw: Rule number 1. Don't sweat the small stuff. Rule 2: it's all small stuff 2012-02-09 01:16:09 Daenerys: I am currently studying social psychology so this is fascinating for me as well ;) perhaps I will write a paper on this. 2012-02-09 01:15:55 Soylas: Waer has it right. I don't care what they did, it was legal, and to be honest, kinda amazing... lol. Brilliant. Good for them. The only thing that bothers me is when FoA does something like this, and then declares that we should love them because they're working for us, the community. But, at least Skyfeather is being open about motives this time around. I respect that. 2012-02-09 01:15:48 Tamutnefret: "Infect the community"? Where have you been for the last decade? It has *always* played like this. 2012-02-09 01:15:38 Minerva: imagines teppy somewhere near pittsburg, getting his rocks off... 2012-02-09 01:15:19 Aarys: does anyone have experience with a 2 yeast brew? 2012-02-09 01:15:00 Trillian: thanks for the honest answer, I would just hope it doesn't infect the community - ie everyone begins playing that way it is a slippery slope- I feel we need to cooperate more not less and this way of playing makes me a little bit sadder not angry it's just a shame you feel the need to play this way in my personal opinion, it certainly doesnt' feel like a way to play as part of the community and I still think their is something in you feel ' you aren't part of the community' in some way 2012-02-09 01:14:52 Zaniac: giggles at L2PBS 2012-02-09 01:14:52 docsaintly: I've got bad news for you guys... FoA doesn't care what we think :) And all of this is exactly what Teppy designed the game for, social conflict. FoA is simply providing a service that teppy couldn't provide himself. 2012-02-09 01:14:51 Rahu: Same reason people in T3 when oby passes worked differently would keep quiet when they opened a oby type so they could get a head start on it. We may be all one happy community but there is still competition. 2012-02-09 01:14:50 Skyfeather: Daenerys, because even though we don't want EXCLUSIVE access to every color, we still want to have an oven with every color possible 2012-02-09 01:14:49 Tamutnefret: There's a huge gap between "first choice fo build spots" and "monopoly". It's not just 2 possibilities. 2012-02-09 01:14:31 Minerva: until the secret came out 2012-02-09 01:14:17 Minerva: the monopoly on the resin 2012-02-09 01:14:17 Ini-Herit: ty sky for the answer :) 2012-02-09 01:13:53 Daenerys: if you dont care about having a monopoly on tiles, then WHAT do you care about that made you decide to be quiet about it? 2012-02-09 01:13:42 Tamutnefret: Yeah, has to be 98% since about 2% of Egypt is in FoA 2012-02-09 01:13:37 Waerloga: I don't care what you do with your tiles, I want none of them. Just don't pretend to give 20% for the sake of the community 2012-02-09 01:13:26 Skyfeather: Ini, we'll try to be more careful in the future. If there's a hot oven that has a compelling reason t omove, we'll do it when we get someone with salvage 7 2012-02-09 01:13:19 Daenerys: Why do you feel the need to have it open early without telling anyone though? To me that seems a deliberate way to make sure no one can possibly have as many ovens as you, because you have a need to dominate. Usually it was research, now it is ovens. 2012-02-09 01:13:18 truanna: i love you nchanter.... oh, and lulu, i've decided against shots and am going with bailey's on ice ;o) 2012-02-09 01:12:58 LuluDivine: actually you're the 98%... 2012-02-09 01:12:54 Rahu: Then don't burn tiles on their ovens. Not like you are forced to do it. 2012-02-09 01:12:50 Ini-Herit: so wanting to build an aqua line is a reason to monopolize clay patches that are clearly big enough for 2 ovens? i just dont see a reason to plant an oven in the middle of a 80 coord clay patch that can clearly have 2 ovens on it 2012-02-09 01:12:48 oDiS: If I accidentally collect resin from an umbrella one more time thinking that it was a spindle, I'm going to slap blondie so hard she'll turn blue before I raise my hand. 2012-02-09 01:12:45 Skyfeather: So would you rather that we just keep all the tiles to ourselves? 2012-02-09 01:12:43 Imhotep: I am of course kidding. :p 2012-02-09 01:12:28 Imhotep: So.. now you get the monopoly on the aqueduct to?!?!? Nect you'll be taxing us on tadpoles! OCCUPY FoA! We are the 99%! 2012-02-09 01:12:25 Minerva: then please educate us as to you rmotives... 2012-02-09 01:12:25 Skyfeather: Waerloga, Yep, that's definitely one of the reasons we're making them semi-public 2012-02-09 01:10:58 Nchanter: I completely understand people disliking what we've done with timering the tech in EG, and not wiking it, and for thinking we're getting Egypt to burn our ovens for us. That' fine. What I object to is when people give us motives we don't have, and make false, unverifiied claims. 2012-02-09 01:10:57 oDiS: for all you know it could just enter water and run in circles or follow the flow of the water. evil little bastards. 2012-02-09 01:10:48 Waerloga: The point is the 20% share is to get people an incentive to do the work for you, not to "give back to the community" like you claim. If you cared so for the community you wouldn't try to build ovens one every available claypatch. Nor would you keep the opening in EG a secret so you could get a headstart. 2012-02-09 01:09:52 Blueshift: yeah it is frustrating. I'd say 1 out of 3 rats I find .... vanish in the water 2012-02-09 01:09:43 Nchanter: We also want to put up an Aqueduct. That takes tiles. We've publically stated, on the wiki and in here, that those precentages will be re-evaluated after the aqueduct is up. 2012-02-09 01:09:34 oDiS: /me is an expert at performing autopsies on invisible corpses. 2012-02-09 01:09:29 Tamutnefret: Maybe they metamorphose into tilapia? 2012-02-09 01:09:14 Aetherfang: grrr....stupid rat, that was the first tracks I've seen since starting my safari 2012-02-09 01:09:09 Kimber: votes for Rabble's most awesome description award.... "red and stuff" 2012-02-09 01:08:42 Blueshift: We're not entirely certain. You can't catch them once they enter water, but there's no body so we can't be sure it was drowning. 2012-02-09 01:08:30 Rabble: Hey my oven is 100% public. You can burn it and let me know what colors it makes. I've been told red and stuff 2012-02-09 01:08:01 Tamutnefret: Yes, rats do drown. 2012-02-09 01:07:47 Aetherfang: do desert rats actually drown? 2012-02-09 01:07:47 Skyfeather: If you don't want to burn our tiles, you don't have to, Waerloga 2012-02-09 01:07:12 Waerloga: 20% shared between the egyptian population does account for much, it's a small reward for getting people to burn your tiles 2012-02-09 01:07:01 Soylas: Thanks for the honest aswer Sky. 2012-02-09 01:07:00 Ini-Herit: if no monopoly is wanted then why build ovens in the middle of a clay patch big enough for 2 to 3 ovens? 2012-02-09 01:06:47 Skyfeather: We aren't even trying to maximize profit. Because people can get our tiles already, we don't really want to trade, it takes up way too much time 2012-02-09 01:06:46 Minerva: it's all about profit. move on. 2012-02-09 01:06:45 Minerva: with all said ovens taking 80% of what the public does with them 2012-02-09 01:06:06 Tamutnefret: Yeah, a monopoly with all ovens accessible to the public is effective, right. 2012-02-09 01:06:01 Minerva: they were trying to maximize their profit, sure 2012-02-09 01:05:56 Skyfeather: We do *NOT* want a monopoly on raeli tiles, that's why all our ovens are semi-public 2012-02-09 01:05:49 Skyfeather: In the time (2 days) between EG unlocked it, and it was announced on L2PBS, we collected MAYBE one and a half ovens worth of spindle tree resin 2012-02-09 01:05:32 Waerloga: Guess it comes down to wanting to build a monopoly 2012-02-09 01:05:25 Tamutnefret: It has happened before, it will keep happening. It just happened to be FoA who did it, this time. 2012-02-09 01:05:22 Skyfeather: We certainly didn't expect that it would stay secret forever, however, and may have announced it after OE popped theirs in a few days, if it hadn't been discovered. 2012-02-09 01:05:15 Leghk: A "private" resin type to build with means less competition at the trees 2012-02-09 01:05:08 Daenerys: so they can be sure to save the community by getting lots of resins to build their amazing ovens because they're just so good at it and WE need them to do it! 2012-02-09 01:04:55 Skyfeather: Trillian: We didn't tell anyone because we wanted a couple days jump on building ovens (and to a lesser extent getting resin) with a new resin type. We didn't ask for help because that would have obviously lost us the lead time. 2012-02-09 01:04:55 Tamutnefret: Raeli ovens have always been highly tactical. 2012-02-09 01:03:17 Trillian: I suppose that comes down to - why the big secret that a lot of folk seem upset by not in the first place - I don't get it - it isn't ususaly the way tech is researched so why different this time? 2012-02-09 01:02:17 Trillian: ok can I ask a basic question cause - I haven't been around long tonight so missed earlier posts probably - why didn't you (FOA) tell people that EG raeli pottery was open? why didn't you let people know you were trying to open it there maybe we could have helped? - ok that was two questions... 2012-02-09 01:00:34 LuluDivine: *smacks oDiS's hands* 2012-02-09 00:59:58 oDiS: lol no, I am not the current mod. I'm busy collecting spindle resins from all your trees. 2012-02-09 00:59:49 Rabble: Aye, it was confusing due to it happening at the exact same time of the switchover. Sorry about that. 2012-02-09 00:59:29 Rabble: But I repeat, no posts were deleted. Talk all you want. I've said my part and stopped talking about it. 2012-02-09 00:59:19 LuluDivine: I think what Bastia meant is that people assuming you were currently modding, oDiS 2012-02-09 00:59:19 Skyfeather: Danaerys, nobody from FoA has asked anyone to try to tame this discussion, personally I'd like to see it finish up naturally, otherwise people just feel pent up 2012-02-09 00:59:12 axxis: unless one is a yeast infection 2012-02-09 00:58:56 LuluDivine: depends on what you're drinking truanna... 2012-02-09 00:58:54 oDiS: Bastia, I am a mod. :P 2012-02-09 00:58:31 truanna: anyone wanna shot? 2012-02-09 00:58:31 oDiS: And aarys, that is AWESOME 2012-02-09 00:58:31 Bastia: Ahh...I think people took oDiS for a mod during that announcement. 2012-02-09 00:58:29 oDiS: Nowhere on there does it say that I will delete your posts. All I can do, as one of the people that runs this mics, is ask for you to stop. It wasn't a debate. Debates are like a train on tracks that have a destination. This was all a big conversation that just goes in a big circle. 2012-02-09 00:58:09 Aarys: is getting 2 yeasts on your first test EVER a good thing? 2012-02-09 00:57:59 Avanya: Are those brains mushrooms still there, in 7L near the cs? I'd love to come gobble some 2012-02-09 00:57:32 Rabble: (Dang you are typing faster than me!) 2012-02-09 00:57:20 Rabble: And just before the switchover, someone not modding, namely oDis, asked to stop the debate 2012-02-09 00:57:01 Daenerys: oDiS: *** This conversation ends now. Having an argument is all well in good, but when it has no viable solution (good or bad) I need to put an end to it on the microphone. This is just going to be a perpetual spit-swapping stalemate. Take this to your private chats and get back on with your happy egyptian lives. *** 2012-02-09 00:56:17 Rabble: Daenerys, that was simply because of a switch over in mods. The old mod, who did not delete any posts, was leaving. The new mod, who also did not delete any posts, had to head up to OE to get the boards 2012-02-09 00:55:10 Minerva: let's pass the peace hookah, have some beer, and chill the frak out 2012-02-09 00:55:10 Daenerys: but yet I was told to stop talking about it, I did, and then the channel gets flooded with a long explanation from Nchanter. 2012-02-09 00:55:09 Markanthony: What's wrong with that? 2012-02-09 00:54:54 Minerva: thast might be a good solution 2012-02-09 00:54:53 Trillian: if anyone wants the wiki updated they usually ask in here for someone to do it if they can't- it's not part of the discussion really- a sideline completely 2012-02-09 00:54:51 Kyline: I have no interest in updating the wiki... Its enough that i do the research someone else can update it. 2012-02-09 00:54:35 truanna: we've been having this argument for like 4 years. i'd make a drinking game out of it, but if i did i'd be drunk all the time 2012-02-09 00:54:33 Korrin: <--- streaks nekkid through L2PBS asking for your vote on Hegemon. I have census tables in most regions. if not in yours, please chat me and i'll come make one. 2012-02-09 00:54:31 Tortellini: You don't have to ask, you can set it up with those instructions 2012-02-09 00:54:08 Aetherfang: heh, I couldn't even figure out how to login for a while 2012-02-09 00:54:08 Markanthony: kuupid, please give everyone a big hug. 2012-02-09 00:54:07 Minerva: everyone with a paid account has access to the wiki 2012-02-09 00:53:39 Tortellini: Kyline: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/OpenID 2012-02-09 00:53:34 Fumen: now, if editing a wiki was as easy as opening up Word or Excel, etc, sure, the majority of the population should be able to do it 2012-02-09 00:53:16 Fumen: wiki editing isn't the easist thing in the world. it's one thing i don't expect people to go out of their way to learn 2012-02-09 00:52:09 Kyline: hehe I don't even have access to the wiki, so i don't update anything. I've not asked for access. I donate plenty to research and not once have i updated it. 2012-02-09 00:52:03 oDiS: Daen, everyone is allowed to ahve their say, and we won't delete your posts. We're moderators, not iron fist rulers. All WE do is ask that if it is something that has already been argued about numbers times today and all it does is end in a stalemate, talk about it somewhere else. 2012-02-09 00:51:49 Dreasimy: your non response response is noted, Daenerys ;) 2012-02-09 00:51:41 Fumen: Fumen wonders what this straw man is and why peopple like attacking it or saying he's getting attacked 2012-02-09 00:51:39 kuupid: he had multiple trial accounts 2012-02-09 00:50:59 Daenerys: Dreasimy you are attacking a strawman, so I will not bother to given any sort of response to that. 2012-02-09 00:50:58 lilac: people sure get their panties up in a bunch over virtual tiles damn..... 2012-02-09 00:50:56 Skyfeather: The wiki didn't get updated for 6 hours when 7L put raeli on time either 2012-02-09 00:50:52 axxis: how can there be trial absue with jail time? we have players who are still trial after 2 month and they play everyday 2012-02-09 00:50:49 Minerva: they suck, too, then 2012-02-09 00:50:36 kuupid: if we don't vote him out geodude will come in as him and cause more havvic. 2012-02-09 00:50:35 Dreasimy: and if you want to spread the blame about every non updated wiki page and edit that isn't made that would be pretty hard to police 2012-02-09 00:49:42 Dreasimy: the people earlier today who noticed the wiki wasn't updated also did not update the wiki just to be fair 2012-02-09 00:49:27 LuluDivine: Kyline - not surprised - I think some gms interpret it one way, others another, etc. Relying on them to jail Ashkeshum for trial abuse has proved already to be pointless though - both Geodude and ashkeshum WERE in jail, and teppy specifically freed them both. 2012-02-09 00:49:26 Kyline: You guys dont just think its nice, you harrass and bully as if its your right that people share. 2012-02-09 00:48:34 Minerva: we should, dreasimy 2012-02-09 00:48:34 Kyline: of course its nice, and it would be lovely if someon gave me $1000 in RL too but do i EXPECT it? No. 2012-02-09 00:47:46 Dreasimy: so the argument now is that *everyone* else updates the wiki all the time in all cases right? 2012-02-09 00:47:46 Kyline: within 2 hours of logging on the trial 2012-02-09 00:47:45 Minerva: we're all riding on others' work. that's kinda how the game was designed - to be a cooperative thing 2012-02-09 00:47:41 Kyline: Lulu i took a 6 month break from the game came back on a trial and got jailed 2012-02-09 00:47:03 Aarys: Brains mushies 1129, -1109 not too far from 7L cs 2012-02-09 00:47:01 Rabble: No one says we do, Kyline. But it's nice when we do. And lots of us do 2012-02-09 00:46:55 Trillian: not gonna hate no one though, rabble find my herbs! 2012-02-09 00:46:54 Minerva: the only part i don't agree with is updating the wiki. other than that, it's their ovens, they can do what they want with them. 2012-02-09 00:46:31 Kyline: Eh who the heck says we have to share info, everyone seems to expect something for nothing in this game and ride of other peoples work. 2012-02-09 00:46:30 Bastia: Np. Good luck on the run! 2012-02-09 00:46:04 Anish: thanks bastia 2012-02-09 00:45:50 Bastia: VoK, -1578 5980 if you can get here before they despawn. Down by SBody. 2012-02-09 00:45:49 Rabble: Aye, I agree with Trillian. Not updating the wiki was sad and petty. Which makes me a h8r I guess but I'm born to hate! Gonna do the tattoo test now so I can get h8 on my knuckles 2012-02-09 00:45:48 Shiranai: Bastia, yes...where might they be? 2012-02-09 00:45:48 Minerva: looking for new jersey? 2012-02-09 00:45:47 LuluDivine: Kyline - the gms seem to be in disagreement on what constitutes trial abuse - I've heard that having one unpaid trial is ok, though that's not how I've understood trial abuse in the past. 2012-02-09 00:44:49 Trillian: it's good a new tech was opened , it's bad not to share information to all, as everyone else shares it freely I don't see why it was different this time around, it doens't make any difference, it doesn't mitigate it to make the ovens 20% to public - overall I find it strange way to play within a community 2012-02-09 00:44:41 Shiranai: yes 2012-02-09 00:44:41 Shiranai: NJ 2012-02-09 00:44:40 Anish: yeah I am bastia 2012-02-09 00:43:52 Bastia: Anyone looking for NJ for DN? 2012-02-09 00:43:52 Kyline: why the heck do we have to vote on another god damn trial account? if this is an alt of geodude it should be getting jailed due to breaking the trial account rules 2012-02-09 00:43:52 Daenerys: Exactly Trillian - and I'm not even going to bother to explain it further. There is no need. Besides, when I try to talk, oDiS says we can't allow that in here. Nchanter was sure allowed to have her say - 2012-02-09 00:41:20 LuluDivine: Trillian, that was a direct response to accusations that we are 'hostile to the community' - she was just using the same phrasing as people who've complained. 2012-02-09 00:40:18 Feyth: ty 2012-02-09 00:40:18 Aetherfang: oh 2012-02-09 00:40:16 LuluDivine: We all knew the griefing petition was going to hit the pair of them - they are the same person. 2012-02-09 00:39:59 LuluDivine: Geodude's alt. 2012-02-09 00:39:58 Trillian: you say "the comunity' as if you are not part of it - above it even somehow... just a thought 2012-02-09 00:39:54 Dreasimy: It certainly sounds like FoA is more public than any other guild than I know of with the amount of ovens but you wouldn't know it from the way certain people spin it 2012-02-09 00:39:47 kuupid: he is also geodude so you need to vote on him 2012-02-09 00:39:45 Aetherfang: jeez oh petes, there's already another griefing petition? 2012-02-09 00:39:43 Feyth: ok who is this ashkeshum? 2012-02-09 00:39:06 Rabble: kuupid is lining them up and knocking them down like bowling pins! 2012-02-09 00:39:05 Kyline: Yep they do, I've seen it in some of my guilds and it makes me sick. Instead of saying thanks for opening another tech, instead of saying thanks for making 20 ovens accessiable to the public people bitch and moan. 2012-02-09 00:38:39 Aetherfang: can't stop the rainbow parade 2012-02-09 00:37:40 Fumen: thanks for the discourse, N. I think you just have a bunch of haters out there. GL with the search for more color in our world 2012-02-09 00:35:35 Nchanter: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Followers_of_Anubis#Ovens 2012-02-09 00:33:58 Nchanter: Lastly, our ovens are currently accessible to the community at a rate of 20% per oven, with plans to adjust some of them to be *more* accessible after we put up our Aqueduct. If we were being hostile to the community we wouldn't be doing that. 2012-02-09 00:33:49 Nchanter: First, Daenerys said that members of FoA had been stripping spindle trees and ONLY spindle trees of resin in Sinai. Those trees were stripped when that guild member got to them, and it was after people had publicized the Eastern Grounds Raeli Pottery tech being opened. Second, The 20 ovens up on the wiki page are built with hawthorn resin. The spindle tree ovens will go up on the wiki over the next few days. Most of our resin came from preparing before it was unlocked anywhere. Third, Eastern Grounds was opened several days after Seven Lakes, and unlocking that tech does not contradict previous statements that we would not be pushing research this telling; we never said we wouldn't be doing any donations to research this telling. Fourth, someone said I was shilling for Old Egypt's Raeli tech. I was not. I just stated when it was that I would be donating hawthorn to their region. 2012-02-09 00:33:49 Nchanter: I just want to say that I'm perfectly OK with people being upset with what we have done, but I do not like people saying untrue things about me or my guild. A couple of factual corrections I would like to make from things said throughout the day, and then I'll let the whole matter drop. Please feel free to chat me if you have further questions - I promise not to yell ;) 2012-02-09 00:32:38 EverSky: Dead by Disgrace? 2012-02-09 00:32:38 Morrigan: I like the flatness of "dead". 2012-02-09 00:31:26 Trillian: hehe nice Rbble :) 2012-02-09 00:31:25 Aetherfang: or perhaps captured. it was super effective 2012-02-09 00:31:08 Rabble: I wish it had read 'disgraced' as status 2012-02-09 00:31:08 LuluDivine: apparently we have the death penalty. Who knew? 2012-02-09 00:30:42 Fumen: rofl 2012-02-09 00:30:42 Trillian: weird why 'dead', shouldn't it be exiled? 2012-02-09 00:30:34 Rabble: I'll send fizzles to do it! 2012-02-09 00:30:26 Fumen: why don't you try, rabble and let us know ;) 2012-02-09 00:29:56 Fumen: my interpretation is that it's a small bug that needs fixed 2012-02-09 00:29:39 Rabble: I also wonder what will happen is someone takes a SoS overdose now. They will be 'dead' too. Does that mean they'll get stuff insta-salvaged? 2012-02-09 00:29:38 Skyfeather: If he did, it's still bugged Rabble, DPA says that his stuff is protected 2012-02-09 00:28:35 Rabble: As I just arrived after this took place, it looks like Geodude is dead (lol!) but the system message says no salvage yet. I wonder if Teppy piggybacked the salvage onto the DPA law 2012-02-09 00:26:32 Ariella: good deal :) 2012-02-09 00:26:05 Aetherfang: oldest trick in the book 2012-02-09 00:26:04 Minerva: he finished the initation... a bit of chat delay 2012-02-09 00:25:01 Ariella: north of the cs and a little west of UWorship. 2012-02-09 00:24:24 Ariella: I'm a legacy and in 7L. 2012-02-09 00:22:35 Rabble: Yes, I was tricked into the guild. They told me if I applied I'd get a free ice cream every day for life 2012-02-09 00:22:35 Minerva: hell, rabble is the customer service department 2012-02-09 00:22:08 Aetherfang: rabble, you're a mod, too? 2012-02-09 00:21:37 Rabble: *end of old posts * 2012-02-09 00:21:29 Aeguus: I am looking for the Legacy of a Sage, could anyone help? 2012-02-09 00:21:29 Fumen: lol "happy egyptian lives" 2012-02-09 00:21:28 truanna: you suck odis. that was my entertainment for the evening ;oP 2012-02-09 00:21:27 Rabble: Sorry about the delay in posts, folks. We had a mod switchout. Boards are now back online :) 2012-02-09 00:09:39 EverSky: ok, thanks ellorin 2012-02-09 00:09:35 oDiS: *** This conversation ends now. Having an argument is all well in good, but when it has no viable solution (good or bad) I need to put an end to it on the microphone. This is just going to be a perpetual spit-swapping stalemate. Take this to your private chats and get back on with your happy egyptian lives. *** 2012-02-09 00:09:07 ellorin: boards going down until next moderator picks up 2012-02-09 00:06:50 LuluDivine: We also didn't 'include the community' when we donated all the materials...those all came from us. 2012-02-09 00:06:49 Dreasimy: Daenerys how can you possibly know what human let alone what guild they are in who took what from which tree 2012-02-09 00:06:21 Nchanter: points out that our entire list of ovens on the wiki (and some we haven't gotten around to wiking yet) are community accessable 2012-02-09 00:05:12 Zaniac: hmm clearcutting solve problem? 2012-02-09 00:05:10 Daenerys: ellorin - im not saying anyone owns the trees - im calling them out for not including the community, they didnt, thats their choice, and i can point it out. 2012-02-09 00:04:14 LuluDivine: I never said the 3rd person wasn't resinning. 2012-02-09 00:04:03 Feyth: other people are after it too 2012-02-09 00:04:01 Nchanter: I said *I* do, not everyone else. And I'm pretty sure everyone in my guild knows i'd kick their ass if they passed by a hawthorn when out collecting resin. :P 2012-02-09 00:04:00 ellorin: but noone owns any trees Daenrys 2012-02-09 00:03:27 Daenerys: but every single spindle tree was empty 2012-02-09 00:02:29 Daenerys: I call bs on that, because that is EXACTLY why i said in my guild it made zero sense - because i even ran into hawthorn that had 9 on it, and butterleaf was taken but not pratyeka 2012-02-09 00:02:29 Saledo: OMG Nchanter.. you mean you are preparing for more openings in other regions and planning ahead? Good thing we dont have feathers to go with our tar! 2012-02-09 00:02:26 LuluDivine: I'm fairly sure only 3 of us were in sinai, and two of us probably weren't resining at all. 2012-02-09 00:01:47 Phoenixwcu: at least 2 of which are stationary 2012-02-09 00:01:23 LuluDivine: Not sure how you can be 'inundated' with a guild of 15 people... 2012-02-09 00:01:21 Fumen: no, i think i see a light in it's eyes still 2012-02-09 00:00:55 Feyth: the horse is dead stop beatng it 2012-02-09 00:00:55 Nchanter: Also, not that anyone cares, but I'm still resining from the entire list of resins needed to unlock the techs, not just hawthorns and spindles. 2012-02-09 00:00:47 Saledo: I bet they nicked them with higher wedges that are usually used! 2012-02-09 00:00:25 Daenerys: yah, but obviously kept it quiet for a reason, not very neighborly 2012-02-09 00:00:24 Nchanter: And we use some pretty good wedges ;) 2012-02-08 23:59:59 ellorin: hmm well they have same right to take resin as anyone else ;) 2012-02-08 23:59:23 Daenerys: i know this is late - but gee, i was wondering why Sinai was inundated with FoAers this morning and when i went on my daily resin run all the spindle trees were empty, now i know! Thanks guys. You're swell. 2012-02-08 23:58:48 ellorin: there used to be one 2012-02-08 23:58:48 Bri: DP is like your local elections... typically you expect thigns to keep plugging along.... 2012-02-08 23:58:32 Swum: On another note, I wish there was an old man avatar. A wizened little guy, but within him would be the wisdom of several tales. 2012-02-08 23:58:17 ellorin: yes quite so that is a little sad 2012-02-08 23:58:13 Nchanter: 394 people voted in the last DP election. 2012-02-08 23:58:12 Bastia: People were RILED about him. It's hard to get people riled about DP. 2012-02-08 23:57:16 Nchanter: The funny thing is that is almost twice the number of people who voted in the DP election 2012-02-08 23:56:50 Fumen: *are you 2012-02-08 23:56:49 LuluDivine: ah well, sure; I'm willing to believe some proportion of egypt hasn't logged in for a few weeks, and are therefore effectually 'not here' though :) 2012-02-08 23:56:48 Fumen: so you're completely against political campaigning to get certain peole elected to office? 2012-02-08 23:56:45 Swum: Humans are different. It would be ignorant to believe that everyone would unanimously vote him dead. 2012-02-08 23:56:30 Bastia: I see your argument, Bri, but I disagee with it. It's all good. =) 2012-02-08 23:55:44 Fumen: 687/780 is more like 85%, but whatever ;) 2012-02-08 23:55:44 Nchanter: no, that' 95% of the VOTERS, not of Egypt Lulu :P 2012-02-08 23:55:31 Bastia: I admit, I considered either abstaining or voting no simply because I objected to being told HOW I should vote. "Make sure you vote" is fine. "Make sure you vote [this way]" bothers me. 2012-02-08 23:55:10 LuluDivine: 95% Fumen :p 2012-02-08 23:54:53 Bastia: Yes, h likely did. 2012-02-08 23:54:52 Bri: Flawed logic. "I'm never going to suport a good use of a bad law." Yeah, it was mroe than enough. Just surprised. Also had a decent voter turnout which I like 2012-02-08 23:54:19 Fumen: well, he obviously ticked enough people off to get 80% of egypt to vote him out 2012-02-08 23:53:54 Bastia: Yes, but you could argue that voting him out if you didn't agree with the law itself would be hypocritical. 2012-02-08 23:53:27 Bri: This case was fairly cut and dry, even if you didn't agree with the law in total, it would help in this case. 2012-02-08 23:53:24 Emy: oh well he's dead now, and we'll soon be able to tear the stuff down and get back to normal, yay! 2012-02-08 23:52:17 Bastia: Not everyone voted for the law itself, either. It makes a certain amount of sense to not vote him out if you didn't think the law should have passed to begin with. 2012-02-08 23:50:59 Aetherfang: I abstained. never heard any actual reasons as to why he was a griefer 2012-02-08 23:45:48 Xaxyx: Oh, I'm suer there are plenty of folks -- foreign language speakers, very casual players, brand new players -- who don't know enough about the Geodude situation to understand why the ban was prudent. 2012-02-08 23:44:45 Bri: 34 actually voted against. That's silly 2012-02-08 23:28:32 Nchanter: if you trade for an un-owned beetle it will just become 100% yours. 2012-02-08 23:28:08 Aeguus: If anyone is in the River Plains doing the species identification... if they can make it to 1586,2052 it seems like it is a 1 stop shop 2012-02-08 23:27:59 Fumen: isn't that like potatoe-potato? 2012-02-08 23:25:52 Nchanter: you need to breed with a beetle that belongs to someone else 2012-02-08 23:24:05 Feyth: has anyone found out if greyish still fits grayish? 2012-02-08 23:20:01 Zarrehp: boring.... thx :) 2012-02-08 23:19:09 Fumen: you need to trade for a beetle or have someone give you one 2012-02-08 23:19:09 Minerva: if you come by DoS CS, I can log him on 2012-02-08 23:19:08 Bri: I'd guess some of us are. :) <---is beyond a grandlegacy but still counts 2012-02-08 23:19:05 Minerva: my spouse is 2012-02-08 23:18:18 Aeguus: Are any of you a Grandlegacy, Legacy of a Sage, or Grandson of an Oracle? 2012-02-08 23:18:16 Zarrehp: hi all. how do I breed a beetle to 0% 50%? all my beetles are 100% mine.... 2012-02-08 23:17:03 Skyfeather: good luck :) 2012-02-08 23:16:25 Bobophet: Thank you, Skyfeather! 2012-02-08 23:14:44 Dreasimy: maybe I was there at the wrong time f day... 2012-02-08 23:14:35 Skyfeather: both I think 2012-02-08 23:14:11 Dreasimy: I thought u worshipo was 4-500 2012-02-08 23:13:53 Phoenixwcu: Do the EG universities fill that requirement? 2012-02-08 23:13:47 Skyfeather: The UWorship in EG is 5-600, just be sure to put your mortar down as far east as you can 2012-02-08 23:12:55 Minerva: i think that one is impossible this take 2012-02-08 23:12:45 Minerva: no, that's not high enough 2012-02-08 23:12:22 Bobophet: Does anyone know of a Uni near a spot between 500-600 feet elevation? Since we're on the subject? Like...the Uni near Papy Mountain in RP? 2012-02-08 23:11:18 Fumen: yeah, with 13 U's available, you'll be hard pressed not to find a good list unless you're needing 7 mortars 2012-02-08 23:10:17 Dreasimy: whatever it is, it's too long to wait I just go run to a bunch of U's til I find a good list 2012-02-08 23:09:59 Phoenixwcu: That linked color map just indicates what we found at those locations. Dropping a nearby oven may or may not give similar colors 2012-02-08 23:09:50 Dreasimy: I couldnt remember how long it was hence the (I think) :D 2012-02-08 23:09:50 Bastia: Adjustd for Teppy time. 2012-02-08 23:09:44 Fumen: +the 10% for teppy time 2012-02-08 23:09:32 Minerva: jinx! 2012-02-08 23:09:32 Fumen: 30x8 or 240 hrs 2012-02-08 23:09:21 Minerva: something like that 2012-02-08 23:09:15 Fumen: something like that 2012-02-08 23:08:51 Bastia: Which is, what, a week and a half real time? 2012-02-08 23:08:14 Minerva: an EGYPTIAN month 2012-02-08 23:08:13 Raki: but you can go to another uni 2012-02-08 23:07:49 Kimber: i thought you had to wait a month for the same uni 2012-02-08 23:07:20 Raki: I know 2012-02-08 23:07:09 Minerva: plus, you only need 4 out of 7 2012-02-08 23:07:06 Raki: I know, I collected lists from almost every uni in Egypt before finding one that looked feasible 2012-02-08 23:07:06 LuluDivine: only 24 hours Dreasimy? I thought it was longer 2012-02-08 23:06:24 Raki: okies, will have to find another herb *sigh* 2012-02-08 23:06:24 Dreasimy: you can go to another university of body and get another list immediately or get another list from the same U after 24 hours (I think) 2012-02-08 23:05:38 Dreasimy: part of the test is identifying the hard or impossible requirements and avoiding them :) 2012-02-08 23:05:37 Feyth: like a school at over 600 feet 2012-02-08 23:05:11 Emy: that requirement is impossible this tale 2012-02-08 23:04:57 Minerva: remember, some of the tattoo requirements are unrealistic 2012-02-08 23:04:35 Raki: ty Feyth, that's too low, my requirement is "At least 600 feet above sea level, On Clay" :( 2012-02-08 23:04:14 Kyline: i checked a few possiblities for clay at 600 feet and gave up 2012-02-08 23:03:18 Feyth: raki the spot in ccr tops out at 573 2012-02-08 23:03:18 LuluDivine: unless* 2012-02-08 23:03:17 Minerva: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Followers_of_Anubis#Ovens 2012-02-08 23:02:25 LuluDivine: Still not sure what Pheros is referring to - FoA's wiki pages do nothing more than report our findings on our ovens at those coordinates. And until we typoed something, they should be accurate. 2012-02-08 23:00:47 Minerva: this one? http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Followers_of_Anubis/Oven_List 2012-02-08 23:00:47 Nirivia: id like that one as well 2012-02-08 23:00:25 Raki: does anybody know if there's a clay patch anywhere in Egypt that's more than 600 feet above sea level? (and no, it's not for a raeli ^:^) 2012-02-08 22:59:53 LuluDivine: if you are referring to the map we have of our own ovens, and you placed an oven in the vicinity of one of our blue ovens, and got green, that's not our fault. Hues are changing drastically over relatively short distances this tale, as compared to last tale. 2012-02-08 22:58:55 LuluDivine: what 'color map' are you talking about Pheros? 2012-02-08 22:58:55 Minerva: it's really the map[ to their5 vast network of gold mines! 2012-02-08 22:58:55 Phoenixwcu: what color map? 2012-02-08 22:58:00 Minerva: maybe foa has a secret code? 2012-02-08 22:57:46 farmer: lol 2012-02-08 22:57:43 LuluDivine: we have a color map? 2012-02-08 22:57:22 EverSky: lol 'dead' haha 2012-02-08 22:57:12 Fumen: he's dead, jim! 2012-02-08 22:57:12 Pheros: i think the FoA raeli color map is a fool, i got a green raeli where it supposed to be all blue 2012-02-08 22:56:50 necos: info geodude 2012-02-08 22:56:49 ysabeau: lol that is sweet 2012-02-08 22:56:49 Articgrey: lmao ok that is hillarious 2012-02-08 22:56:48 Minerva: hi5, lulu! 2012-02-08 22:56:48 Minerva: woot! 2012-02-08 22:55:35 LuluDivine: apparently we killed him 2012-02-08 22:55:35 LuluDivine: hahahah, info Geodude 2012-02-08 22:55:34 Bobophet: 50 2012-02-08 22:55:33 EverSky: lol 2012-02-08 22:50:02 Minerva: kinda hard, since he didn't give our toons that part of the body... 2012-02-08 22:49:05 Fumen: never trust the man!! he'll screw ya up the rear every chance he gets!!! 2012-02-08 22:48:31 AbesGhost: haha a game where the players don't trust the developer and proprietor! 2012-02-08 22:48:17 Minerva: then who? 2012-02-08 22:47:40 Phoenixwcu: I am not 100% sure I want teppy on the job testing code that allows for the tearing down of random stuff 2012-02-08 22:45:39 Minerva: i'm sure now that teppy's back in town, it won't take too long 2012-02-08 22:39:28 Kimber: "once they implement that part" will be interesting to see how long that takes..... 2012-02-08 22:39:13 Minerva: "if he build it, it will fall..." i think we just need to hold our hors... camels for a couple hours. 2012-02-08 22:39:11 Fumen: teh DPA isn't fully active, either, so give it a hair bit more time 2012-02-08 22:39:07 Tiglath-Pileser: not yet, it seems. 2012-02-08 22:38:25 Fumen: yep, that's the way i read it 2012-02-08 22:38:06 EverSky: doesn't matter who he gave it to or guild, if he built it, it will be deleted, yeah once they implement that part 2012-02-08 22:37:42 Minerva: i think teppy just didn't program that in yet, or there's some delay 2012-02-08 22:37:15 EverSky: thats what I read in the terms of the law/vote system for exile of griefers 2012-02-08 22:37:14 EverSky: any item built by geodude will be removed after voted to be exiled 2012-02-08 22:37:14 Minerva: and the exile, lol 2012-02-08 22:36:33 Kimber: i thought the tearing down was the whole point of that law 2012-02-08 22:36:31 Bessieloo: he guilded alot of the woodplanes 2012-02-08 22:36:10 Minerva: it prolly didn't get fully implemented yet 2012-02-08 22:36:00 Phoenixwcu: Not surpised that part of the law isn't working yet 2012-02-08 22:35:59 Sabina: me too 2012-02-08 22:35:59 Fumen: eh. does it really matter? 2012-02-08 22:35:16 blondie: well, i tried to tear down a woodplane of geo's, it's protected 2012-02-08 22:34:52 Spooner: too bad we dont get slate back' 2012-02-08 22:34:32 Bobophet: It would be nice to know where the population stands right now. 2012-02-08 22:34:00 Sabina: so when can we start tearing the woodplanes down? 2012-02-08 22:33:21 Fumen: 780 last night when i looked at the census 2012-02-08 22:33:16 Bastia: Full population was nearly 800 when I looked two nights ago. 2012-02-08 22:33:08 Bobophet: 687 is almost everyone. 2012-02-08 22:32:24 Morrigan: 34 nays I think? 2012-02-08 22:32:16 Phoenixwcu: that looks like the full pop of egypt, so not voting might be a no 2012-02-08 22:32:08 Minerva: trial accounts can't vote 2012-02-08 22:31:50 Minerva: 34 abstenstions? 2012-02-08 22:31:49 Daniels: bye bye Geodude 2012-02-08 22:31:48 Phoenixwcu: so him and his 34 trial accounts 2012-02-08 22:31:47 Spooner: i bet 83% 2012-02-08 22:31:46 Bobophet: 95.28% passage for the Geodude vote. 2012-02-08 22:31:44 ellorin: yay lets build woodplanes on the 34 no's 2012-02-08 22:31:25 Vivix: 34??? 2012-02-08 22:31:24 blondie: he dead. 2012-02-08 22:31:23 Articgrey: someone actually voted no ...... --_-- 2012-02-08 22:31:17 Phoenixwcu: Lol bigger margin 2012-02-08 22:31:14 Minerva: i wish we could havwe predicted it for freeman 2012-02-08 22:28:22 Fumen: i really should set up some software to run a gambling pool. i'm thinking it's going to be about the same margin as the AGA law passed 2012-02-08 22:26:35 Minerva: ooh, 4 more minutes for the geodude ballot... i wonder what the result will be, lol! 2012-02-08 22:25:58 Minerva: drat, Helena should have waited for the bribe! 2012-02-08 22:24:14 Fumen: i hear that if you bribe people, they'll come do chariot repairs really fast 2012-02-08 22:21:19 Helena: 3 more needed for Vok --> CCR 2012-02-08 21:57:54 RoyCallahan: Just 4 more repairs left to open Vok > CCR Route! 2012-02-08 21:23:20 necos: ok cool ty il let u no if i dont find one by then :) 2012-02-08 21:22:20 EverSky: hey necos I won't be able to get one to you till later tonight, so if you don't find a female beetle by then let me know (talking like 10 hrs from now) 2012-02-08 21:20:49 Yerbouti: i went and listened to it old chubby checker sounds very country in this day 2012-02-08 21:20:39 necos: hi any one got a female beetle they would trade for male ? 2012-02-08 21:16:34 Markanthony: Hookah-Tookah my soda cracker,...does your momma chaw tabacca...if your momma chaws tobacca say, hookah-tookah my SO OH OH DA cracker 2012-02-08 21:16:10 Sharae: ~you can leave your hat on, baby~ 2012-02-08 21:15:49 Rabble: ~why don't we do it in the road~ 2012-02-08 21:15:31 Yerbouti: One day that rooster came into our yard, and caught them chickens right offa their guard ... 2012-02-08 21:15:28 Sharae: There ain't no flys on US, there ain't no flies on US, there might be flies on YOU guys!, but, there ain't no flies on US 2012-02-08 21:14:37 TreekaSu: If you're happy and you know it clap your hands 2012-02-08 21:14:12 Sharae: <~~ looks up for her grinding to enjoy the sunset .. very purty 2012-02-08 21:13:44 Bryce: 99 bottles of beer on the wall, 99 bottles of beer, if one of those bottles should happen to fall, 98 bottles of beer on the wall.... 2012-02-08 21:13:43 farmer: lol 2012-02-08 21:12:00 TreekaSu: There was a farmer had a dog, and Bingo was his name O, BINGO BINGO BINGO and Bingo was his name O 2012-02-08 21:09:10 TreekaSu: and not all of VoK is green, part is Grayish 2012-02-08 21:07:18 LuluDivine: well, at least pinks are a whole lot more common this tale - that will make aqueduct projects go a little faster than they did last tale 2012-02-08 21:06:02 Spooner: some nice new gem cuts 2012-02-08 21:05:58 Auset: does anyone know the scoop on stainless steel pots 2012-02-08 21:05:57 Ashtarii: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/User:Ashtarii 2012-02-08 21:05:55 Ashtarii: grrrr 2012-02-08 21:05:37 Ashtarii: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/User:Ashtarii 2012-02-08 21:03:31 Bessieloo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?=endscreen&v=Y7dGdrP3pms&NR=1 2012-02-08 21:03:20 Skyfeather: Hue shifts drastically, for instance, yellow to hot pink is around old egypt, so it isn't as useful to say what colors are specific to which regions 2012-02-08 21:01:30 Catote: Raeli colors: RP is blue. VoK is green. 7L is red (?). What else do we know? 2012-02-08 20:54:27 Fumen: well they're less annoying to me 2012-02-08 20:52:17 Taemon: That that is even worse doesn't make earworms any less annoying. 2012-02-08 20:51:23 Fumen: you have a problem when you can actually hear the song playing as if the radio is on 2012-02-08 20:51:01 Fumen: pfft... earworms. childs play 2012-02-08 20:49:09 Anthaeus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYvuIsspW24 2012-02-08 20:49:06 Anthaeus: i prefer 2012-02-08 20:49:05 Taemon: Dis, that doesn't actually tell us how to kill an earworm. I usually put another song in my head to fight it. 2012-02-08 20:47:25 TreekaSu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s1z61vtmo0 2012-02-08 20:47:25 TreekaSu: Ok...the very best commercial in the world...if you love cows :) 2012-02-08 20:46:39 Fumen: oh god no, not the gummi bear song >:( 2012-02-08 20:46:27 Yerbouti: always get the rooster song stuck in my head 2012-02-08 20:46:17 DisShovel: http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/05/how-to-kill-an-earworm.php 2012-02-08 20:45:14 TreekaSu: Nuki Nuki Gummi bear song :) 2012-02-08 20:44:53 Poledra: OMG Rick Ghastley :) 2012-02-08 20:44:53 Nirivia: :) 2012-02-08 20:44:53 Bobophet: Never gonna run around and desert you 2012-02-08 20:44:43 Nirivia: yay 2012-02-08 20:44:32 Bobophet: Never gonna let you down 2012-02-08 20:44:28 Bobophet: Never gonna give you up 2012-02-08 20:44:01 Nabirye: the ducks 2012-02-08 20:43:43 Anthaeus: the badger song? 2012-02-08 20:43:38 TreekaSu: they all come back Nirivia :) 2012-02-08 20:43:14 Nirivia: duck killer! 2012-02-08 20:43:13 Nabirye: lol i cant remember ever hearing that before and somehow its still familiar :) 2012-02-08 20:43:13 TreekaSu: my parrot sings 3 little ducks though...instead of 5 2012-02-08 20:42:09 TreekaSu: Five little ducks :) 2012-02-08 20:41:54 Taemon: Badger badger badger mushroom 2012-02-08 20:41:53 Nirivia: thats horrible 2012-02-08 20:41:45 Markanthony: That doesn't add up :) 2012-02-08 20:41:37 Nirivia: cries 2012-02-08 20:40:36 TreekaSu: Three little ducks went out to play, over the hill and far away, Mother Duck said QUACK QUACK QUACK QUACK and only 4 little ducks came back 2012-02-08 20:38:30 Dreasimy: kept singing in my head ' last friday night, blah blah blah too many shots, danced on table tops' now that I've shared that with all of you maybe it won't haunt me anymore, like The Ring, but different 2012-02-08 20:38:04 Markanthony: I'm warning you, it's catchy. :) 2012-02-08 20:37:56 DisShovel: someone older then me... I didn't think that was possible 2012-02-08 20:37:53 Dreasimy: I woke up with a Katie Perry song in my head today and it made me mad, they played it at the bowling alley last night :( 2012-02-08 20:36:52 Yerbouti: my goodness i need to look that one up 2012-02-08 20:35:57 Markanthony: Geez, you know how you get a song stuck in your head sometimes? Of all songs...and I'm gonna show my age here..."Hookah-Tookah My Soda-Cracker" 2012-02-08 20:23:01 Tiglath-Pileser: I thought it was used for something else. 2012-02-08 20:22:23 blondie: well, marble tubs not good enough for ya ? ;p 2012-02-08 20:21:30 Articgrey: New Night Sky Table at 1067, -5575 near SE cs please stop by and give it a go :) 2012-02-08 20:21:24 Tiglath-Pileser: what are the uses of tangerine marble? I can only find the marble tubs on wiki? 2012-02-08 20:09:26 Sheeps-KAF: total number, it's cumulative 2012-02-08 20:08:49 Catote: ah nice. Number of tiles I burn, or number of times I burn tiles, or both? 2012-02-08 20:07:39 Phoenixwcu: It determiens how fast you dredge up tiles 2012-02-08 20:07:21 Sheeps-KAF: How quickly the dredging goes, gets better as you burn tiles 2012-02-08 20:06:38 Catote: What's raeli skills all about? 2012-02-08 19:43:07 blondie: level 21 is pretty high, from what i remember, so that should be good for dredging a nice amount of tiles, even with higher levels being possible 2012-02-08 19:41:10 Skyfeather: Don't think raeli operation has a hard cap. If it does, it may be above what's physically possible 2012-02-08 19:41:00 emeraldlily: there's really no max that i know of...kind of like speed...just gets harder to level 2012-02-08 19:36:00 blondie: i did, i mean ;p 2012-02-08 19:35:25 blondie: got to 21 last telling 2012-02-08 19:34:50 Pheros: anyone knows max skill in raeli operation? 2012-02-08 19:28:45 Ashtarii: thankies much 2012-02-08 19:26:59 Zazamoukh: Violet Red #D02090 Feldspar #D19275 Carrot #E07020 2012-02-08 19:26:53 Zazamoukh: Violet 2012-02-08 19:23:24 Skyfeather: There's a couple that are missing, namely Carrot, Violet Red, and Feldspar 2012-02-08 19:23:24 Skyfeather: http://www.mcfedries.com/books/cightml/x11color.htm 2012-02-08 19:13:26 Ashtarii: is there a listiing/color chart of the hex codes for the tile colors ? 2012-02-08 19:13:25 Fumen: new month on the wiki for fishing data posted 2012-02-08 19:07:06 Taemon: Aight! I'm off the hook. 2012-02-08 19:07:06 Anthaeus: yup, he scared Rabble into anouncing digs on bazaar 2012-02-08 19:06:22 Justin: it's SPOONER's Fault! 2012-02-08 19:00:51 Spooner: dng i broke pbs 2012-02-08 18:45:10 Spooner: lots good herbs in EG 2012-02-08 18:44:40 Taemon: <-- drinks both beer and wine although not at the same time and none right now, more's the pity. 2012-02-08 18:44:07 Spooner: it is all toasted bean soup to me drink wine 2012-02-08 18:43:42 DisShovel: gives Spooner a gold star 2012-02-08 18:43:42 Yerbouti: coffee and tea will keep ya peein too 2012-02-08 18:43:28 Bessieloo: cappachino is better than expresso :) 2012-02-08 18:43:10 Taemon: I drink tea, yes. I was trying to sound more European. 2012-02-08 18:42:47 Spooner: motly drink beer is why they called urpeeons 2012-02-08 18:42:18 Phoenixwcu: They drink something they call coffee though most americans would call it expresso 2012-02-08 18:41:48 Cyndi: coffee? i thought europeans drank tea 2012-02-08 18:40:42 Freyja: sounds like southern europe 2012-02-08 18:40:41 Taemon: You forgot the coffee break. 2012-02-08 18:40:34 Asheara: o wait, that's my schedule 2012-02-08 18:40:13 Asheara: o sorry tae, arrive at 11, go to lunch at 11:30, come back from lunch at 1:30, take a siesta at 2, come back at 4 and go home at 5? 2012-02-08 18:38:33 Taemon: Shame on you, Asheara! I never work mornings. 2012-02-08 18:38:28 Poledra: Apparently here in britain we don't work at all and have really bad teeth 2012-02-08 18:38:24 Jaylenaeybarre: yeah right, if it wasn't for us europeans there wouldn't be a us 2012-02-08 18:38:06 Asheara: dont they work mornings, take a 2 hour lunch then a nap in the afternoons? 2012-02-08 18:37:33 Rabble: Pfft! I thought you all only worked 3 hours a week and retired at age 12. At least that's what I heard on TV 2012-02-08 18:37:32 Asheara: what is work? 2012-02-08 18:37:32 Jaylenaeybarre: see how fast that went lol 2012-02-08 18:36:59 Baldur: That's a lot more euro friendly rabble :) as 3pm gmt is still normal work hours for most 2012-02-08 18:36:09 Rabble: Just moved friday's dig 3 hours later :) 2012-02-08 18:35:58 Jaylenaeybarre: I wonder if I could talk rabble into calling my boss to tell I have to dig in egypt lol 2012-02-08 18:35:11 Jaylenaeybarre: lol you call that eurofriendly :) am still at work then 2012-02-08 18:34:43 Ashtarii: *doesn't want to run* 2012-02-08 18:34:20 Rabble: Ah, that's what you meant earlier? Yes, today's dig is for west-coast people. But Friday's dig is a very Euro friendly time 2012-02-08 18:33:47 blondie: *takes a plane to PA to stalk Rabble for having digs in the middle of the nite* 2012-02-08 18:32:15 Rabble: Grew up in Chester. Live in Havertown now 2012-02-08 18:31:59 Markanthony: I grew up in Philly Rabble. Whereabouts are you? 2012-02-08 18:31:27 Rabble: Still clear here (outside Philly) 2012-02-08 18:31:24 Markanthony: The good side :) 2012-02-08 18:31:23 Pheros: he its 2012, after the worst desaster year 2011, dont expect it gets better 2012-02-08 18:31:22 Fumen: you guys getting the screwy spring-winter thing, too? 2012-02-08 18:31:05 Markanthony: I'm on the other side of the state :) 2012-02-08 18:30:21 Asheara: snow flurries? we have an inch or so in pittsburgh 2012-02-08 18:30:07 kuupid: it's still the middle of winter lol 2012-02-08 18:29:37 kuupid: looks like we are ready to run for tomorrow Ash 2012-02-08 18:29:27 Markanthony: Yikes, snow flurries starting here in PA. What the hell is winter doing, showing up in the middle of springtime? 2012-02-08 18:28:54 Asheara: not true dis, i keep him up-to-date with the goings on here 2012-02-08 18:28:34 Bobophet: That's absolutely true. Anyone can call for an acro line at any time. It's best to give people time to show up, though...at least an hour of advance notice. Even better is to schedule it. 2012-02-08 18:27:37 DisShovel: doubts Teppy is aware of the game beyond the fact that it runs on the same server as the other one 2012-02-08 18:27:36 Disintoxication: Swimming will be unlocked with the seventh body test: Test of Isis Flight. 2012-02-08 18:26:45 Bobophet: Maybe he's hoping more people will pass Cicadas before bringing back swimming. ;-) 2012-02-08 18:26:32 Rabble: Huh? 2012-02-08 18:26:00 blondie: dang it, Rabble! 3am? 4am ? 2012-02-08 18:25:37 Rabble: In the meantime, you (or anyone else) can do an acro line! The field is there every moment of every day :) 2012-02-08 18:25:37 Tiglath-Pileser: great, rabble, thank you! 2012-02-08 18:25:13 Rabble: Yes, I'll still do them weekly but this last weekend and upcoming weekend have been hectic for me. But I'll do them again the following week 2012-02-08 18:24:29 Tiglath-Pileser: Is anyone planning any acro events at all now? 2012-02-08 18:24:06 blondie: well, the catch is, he's waiting on giving us swimming when he gets the new test, tricky tricky 2012-02-08 18:23:39 blondie: Darn, Nepomuk! now i wish i had grayish tiles ;p 2012-02-08 18:23:37 Tiglath-Pileser: one lot odf acro is plenty. Even the Principle would be nice. 2012-02-08 18:23:01 Fumen: thought is all about designing puzzles for your fellow egyptians to solve. oyster wouldn't work there 2012-02-08 18:23:00 blondie: yea, people said oyster was a though-ish test anyway 2012-02-08 18:22:59 Bobophet: Oysters are more of a thought test...true. 2012-02-08 18:22:59 Taemon: He said he'd keep swimming but of course, it was very naive of me to think he actually would do that. 2012-02-08 18:22:34 blondie: the more you teach on acro the more dex ? or the more animals you help catch? get more st? yea, more points for carry would be good 2012-02-08 18:22:32 Zhukuram: there could be another tier of achievement - instead of 7 per discipline then 21 (?) in any group 2012-02-08 18:22:21 DisShovel: he could have move Oyster to thought 2012-02-08 18:22:09 Bobophet: Maybe he'll bring swimming and pearls back as a side quest...make pearl dust required for something or other. 2012-02-08 18:21:59 Rabble: But thought tests need rewards too. Not many do that discipline 2012-02-08 18:21:59 blondie: he coulda put banquet in another discipline 2012-02-08 18:21:40 Rabble: Oh I'd love that! 2012-02-08 18:21:40 blondie: i like tattoo 2012-02-08 18:21:29 Fumen: all body tests should allow for an eventual 28 points. get rid of the ones that don't ;) 2012-02-08 18:21:10 Zhukuram: yeah give multiple choice much better than a fixed list 2012-02-08 18:21:10 Spooner: where is my camel racing i have petitions since t3 2012-02-08 18:20:44 Taemon: We tried Banquet, too. I think Teppy eventually made the choice on his own. 2012-02-08 18:20:34 Fumen: darkest night. love tattoo 2012-02-08 18:20:24 Yerbouti: i like the perty pearls 2012-02-08 18:20:24 Rabble: Teppy did seem open to allowing 8+ tests per discipline in future tales -- and thus bringing back some favorites 2012-02-08 18:19:57 Tiglath-Pileser: would rather lose tattoo than Oyster :( 2012-02-08 18:19:39 Tiglath-Pileser: mmm gets the sand out of all your nooks and crannies. 2012-02-08 18:19:32 Taemon: Teppy wanted to ditch tattoo initially. We stopped him from doing that, at least ;-) 2012-02-08 18:18:51 Spooner: nothing like a cool beer bath and a glass of wine to relax with after a day running desert 2012-02-08 18:18:39 Taemon: Oh, right, you and I were chatting. Sorry. NONE OF THIS IS BLONDIE'S FAULT! 2012-02-08 18:18:38 Rabble: Teppy broke logging of the events mic right before he did amnesty. However, Guum and some others posted parts of the conversation on the wiki 2012-02-08 18:18:36 Tiglath-Pileser: They say baked beans are good for the skin... 2012-02-08 18:18:36 Tiglath-Pileser: is Morrigan in disguise) 2012-02-08 18:18:08 blondie: i wasn't there, T-man 2012-02-08 18:18:04 Spooner: yes twice a day if i can 2012-02-08 18:18:03 Tiglath-Pileser: ahh 2012-02-08 18:17:45 Taemon: No Tiglath, it wasn't in IRC, just ingame. At the foot of that ridiculous monument. Haha! Foot. 2012-02-08 18:17:44 Tiglath-Pileser: You bathe in beer, Spooner? 2012-02-08 18:17:43 DisShovel: To be fair, many of us pushed to dump Acro.. I am pretty sure we would have been lynched 2012-02-08 18:17:13 Taemon: And blondie was there too :-) 2012-02-08 18:17:03 Taemon: I rather liked oyster. 2012-02-08 18:17:02 Spooner: yes beer makes my manly chest hair so soft and fluffy 2012-02-08 18:17:02 Taemon: It's partly my fault, yes. I remember being surprised how quickly Teppy took that decision. But if it had truly been up to me, it would have been acro. 2012-02-08 18:17:00 Fumen: what was that chat log someone posted up on the wiki... amnest? 2012-02-08 18:16:44 blondie: i'm liking this idea of blaming Tae for stuffs 2012-02-08 18:16:42 Tiglath-Pileser: mmm so make me some beer! 2012-02-08 18:16:19 DisShovel: so yeah, its is mostly Tae's fault, like many things 2012-02-08 18:16:18 Yerbouti: what you wanna drink water for there's beer for that 2012-02-08 18:16:12 Tiglath-Pileser: was this in the extra secret Star Chamber (aka IRC)? 2012-02-08 18:16:09 Taemon: He said we would keep swimming anyway. 2012-02-08 18:15:43 Taemon: There were a few of us around when Teppy came to decide which body test should go. 2012-02-08 18:15:36 Tiglath-Pileser: Yerbouti, we have to DRINK that water... 2012-02-08 18:15:33 Spooner: any ibis yet? 2012-02-08 18:15:24 Zhukuram: well we need to extend the number of tests past 7 per area - maybe best of 7 or best of 15 per area - new titles too 2012-02-08 18:15:22 Fumen: cause i remember reading it, along with the fact that 28 (21?) fly fishing points are supposed to be handed out each week 2012-02-08 18:14:58 Tiglath-Pileser: Zatarg told me in T4 they were working on that. 2012-02-08 18:14:38 Fumen: it's recorded in a chat log somewhere 2012-02-08 18:14:38 Tiglath-Pileser: That's like the "probably" will make fonts on chest larger for visually disabled players that hasn't been implemented for 6 tales now. 2012-02-08 18:14:35 Yerbouti: i hope so, i'll get crusty britches without bathing' 2012-02-08 18:14:23 DisShovel: Guum is on break. I think he dislikes the early portions of the telling.. I am sure he will return 2012-02-08 18:14:13 Rabble: (or at least Teppy said we'd get it back in an offhand remark that he probably doesn't recall making) 2012-02-08 18:14:13 Spooner: if no swimming then jump in the river and drownd 2012-02-08 18:14:12 Fumen: seems that teppy promised swimming would be back, but just wasn't sure how 2012-02-08 18:14:11 Tiglath-Pileser: doesn't like Teppy's "probably"s 2012-02-08 18:13:42 Rabble: Oysters is gone. The new body test does seem nice. And we will probably get swimming back at some point 2012-02-08 18:13:41 blondie: well, inam actually really dislikes acro.... 2012-02-08 18:13:39 Tiglath-Pileser: but Guum isnt here this tale 2012-02-08 18:13:31 Spooner: hiya bouti 2012-02-08 18:13:08 Tiglath-Pileser: yeah Yerbouti :( 2012-02-08 18:13:07 Yerbouti: no more swimmin? 2012-02-08 18:13:07 Zhukuram: yeah but at least you can hear them SQUEEEEL 2012-02-08 18:13:05 DisShovel: getting rid of Oyster was largely Guum's doing. with the influence of some others. some body test had to go according to the rules.. the Oracle who built the monument got his say 2012-02-08 18:12:54 Sheeps-KAF: or beans 2012-02-08 18:12:53 Yerbouti: oh no they killed oysters? 2012-02-08 18:12:34 Spooner: cicadas is bugs too 2012-02-08 18:12:03 Zhukuram: I betcha its bugged and we all dont know it ROFL 2012-02-08 18:12:02 Tiglath-Pileser: carries a banner saying "WE WANT OYSTER CATCHER BACK" 2012-02-08 18:12:01 Spooner: i miss oysters and swimming 2012-02-08 18:11:22 Emy: a bit like getting rid of oyster 2012-02-08 18:11:18 Zhukuram: ah well THAT explains it - A Teppy Deal ohhh yummy 2012-02-08 18:11:15 Spooner: how many siggys to get on ballot? 2012-02-08 18:10:50 Emy: it was a teppy concoction 2012-02-08 18:09:28 blondie: i don't remember chains being a legacy test, getting too old maybe, but i thought that was a teppy concoction 2012-02-08 18:08:19 Spooner: use of chains requires concenting adults lol 2012-02-08 18:08:09 Zhukuram: and just think some Monument was made and dedicated to Chains - what a waste but ... 2012-02-08 18:07:25 Tiglath-Pileser: Does anyone understand Chains? 2012-02-08 18:07:00 Catote: Chains was just an example, since it was claimed it's all on the wiki. Clearly its NOT. And even then. Vets know, chains (and other things) are mysterious and use a good overall strategy. New playres could instead spend 2 hours reading wiki for no avail ... Or take the standard gather mats in 1 hour,*We* have a basic understanding on diminissing returns, but its NOT documented anywhere. New players will just make another compeition and loose GRAND. 2012-02-08 18:06:45 Tiglath-Pileser: very true, Spooner 2012-02-08 18:06:44 Zhukuram: and Chains I dont understand it - I did try to put something on the wiki but there's a paucity of information about it 2012-02-08 18:06:25 Justin: i LIKE figuring things out for myself, and also helping explain them to others - new and experienced players alike. I'm also not afraid to ask someone if there's something i don't understand, or can't seem to do right (like paint! never been able to do paint right in 5 tales!) 2012-02-08 18:06:24 Spooner: information is perishable if you hoard it, it rots 2012-02-08 18:05:07 Zhukuram: I want ANY noob to stay - It doesnt take much to explain things - but there are those that do hoard information but thats them 2012-02-08 18:04:59 Rabble: Oddly enough, most people were friendly. Only a few folks called me an idiot and told me to go away 2012-02-08 18:04:27 Bessieloo: sometimes don't you wish you had ran on Rabble and not stoppe? 2012-02-08 18:04:03 Saledo: If newbies are leaving over chains this game isnt for them, it takes quite a bit to figure out things even if they are on the wiki, I would rathe have the newbie who wanted to invest in the time to figure out how the scores worked then got mad that someone didnt write it up for them 2012-02-08 18:03:47 Fumen: and so it began in the legacy of The Rabble... 2012-02-08 18:03:29 Emy: not in my camp, sorry spooner :( 2012-02-08 18:03:19 Spooner: lol rabble 2012-02-08 18:03:15 Fumen: lol rabble 2012-02-08 18:03:03 Rabble: Ah, I still remember seeing my first acro line and running up to each pair and saying "hey guys what's up?". 2012-02-08 18:03:01 Spooner: any ibis today? 2012-02-08 18:02:27 blondie: *remembers how chains was bugged last telling, for weeks and weeks* 2012-02-08 18:02:14 Spooner: it took me an hour to find my first slate i am dumb as a rock 2012-02-08 18:02:12 Justin: the test is caught in a loop - passes that get held over affect the scores that should be providing more passes for the test.... 2012-02-08 18:01:45 Spooner: yes but some rules change and that is fun also 2012-02-08 18:01:03 Fumen: how you mean, justin? 2012-02-08 18:01:03 Catote: Spooner, true. For tale 1. Now half the populatoin KNOW the rules, and newbies dont. Newbies loose competition, get fustrated, leave ... 2012-02-08 18:00:35 Justin: no-one knows how chains works - maybe how it's supposed to, but not how it does. Not even Teppy, he's investigating it at the moment. 2012-02-08 18:00:31 Fumen: the rules are one thing. the strategies of passing quickly are another 2012-02-08 17:59:48 Spooner: part of the game is discovering the rules 2012-02-08 17:58:40 Catote: Emy, just an example. How does Test of Chains works exactly. Not the overall idea, that's clear. But how do you make points exactly (both tests / both principles / both levels / mixing things / max caps). It's NOT explained on wiki, and everytime we discuss it here, there are new explanations. How fun is a competition, where you dont know the rules. 2012-02-08 17:58:40 Fumen: i say if i'm not a part of the conspiracy, i'm going to blab and blab and blab until someone shoots me 2012-02-08 17:58:40 Spooner: lack of knowledge is good reason to make friends and learn something 2012-02-08 17:58:12 Fumen: dreasimy: i haven't made a route yet. when i do, i'll update it all ;) 2012-02-08 17:57:44 Rabble: If you are a part time player or new player who doesn't know how to do things more effieciently, it's very easy to bite off more than you can chew and burn yourself out 2012-02-08 17:57:34 Spooner: pigs and kangaroos 2012-02-08 17:56:46 Emy: to everyone complaining about legacy/veterans of the game. The wiki is there for a reason, and you can actually check back over old wikis! lol 2012-02-08 17:56:38 Rabble: I think a lot of new players also get burnt out on maintenance chores. As an example, they want leather and get camels/sheeps but feeding them becomes a daily grind 2012-02-08 17:56:37 Asheara: i want pigs dangit 2012-02-08 17:55:06 Spooner: \snooze you lose didnt you get the memo dreasimy? 2012-02-08 17:55:05 DisShovel: This is a right-to-slave game Ash, you can't go on strike 2012-02-08 17:54:49 Catote: I worry about the knowledge/competitive part. When I was new I resented it, because it so clearly favored vets (too much old info was required). Now I can live with it, and even manage some of it. BUT I still think it's major barrier for new players, and that hurt us all. 2012-02-08 17:54:47 Chay: seriously where are our sacrificial cows? 2012-02-08 17:54:21 Dreasimy: ooo did I miss drama about how no one updated the wiki with the new resin? in the ensuing drama did any of the people upset actually update the wiki? :D 2012-02-08 17:54:20 Spooner: yay for bacon i just finished BLT 2012-02-08 17:54:20 Jaxum: everything is better with bacon 2012-02-08 17:54:19 Avanya: hehe replace "dowsing" with "flowers" and I agree, Spooner ! 2012-02-08 17:53:53 Asheara: i resent that there's no bacon in the game... *goes on a hunger strike until we get pigs!! 2012-02-08 17:53:37 Spooner: after wine and glass blowing and dowsing the rest of the game is just work to me 2012-02-08 17:52:39 DisShovel: I don't know that I even resent it anymore. Maybe I did many tales ago. Now, I just avoid the competitive tests and do the things I like. Makes the game smaller for me but.. I find enough to keep me for a time. 2012-02-08 17:50:59 Avanya: I agree that there are some game aspects that do favor veterans, and I resent that too, DisShovel. I applaud those that work to make things more friendly to new players, and truely mentor them. And I wish things were mixed up more to eliminate those advantages (i.e., I really liked the plaster and wool additions to building). 2012-02-08 17:50:46 Sheeps-KAF: Actually that's a good point, we have a page for fennec traps, why not cages? 2012-02-08 17:50:35 Fumen: you're welcome peabody. we're here to entertain you ;) 2012-02-08 17:50:16 Asheara: i agree spoonie, i think all flavors should be available within 50 coords of your house 2012-02-08 17:50:05 Peabody: ROFL you guys are so entertaining. My time making iron pots just flew by. 2012-02-08 17:50:01 Rabble: Since I don't pay for the accounts of those 20%, I don't reall care much what they do. But I'm really happy the other 80% exist. It's why I keep coming back to ATiTD 2012-02-08 17:49:54 Fumen: it's not fair that i have to trounce through the desert to find cicada cages. i demand that they all be built in front of my cp 2012-02-08 17:49:52 Rabble: Most of us in ATiTD cooperate with each other. It's why I like this game so much compared to others. And about 20% (or maybe less) just do things for themselves 2012-02-08 17:49:48 Spooner: ty thats what i thought 2012-02-08 17:49:26 Spooner: No spooner it is not fair 2012-02-08 17:48:49 Spooner: is it fair that some wine flavors are only in odd locations far from spooners home? I ask you is that Fair? 2012-02-08 17:48:34 DisShovel: oh its not fair Avanya. It seems intentionally designed to favor prior knowedge, planning, and group coordination. It has also been a big reason why so many players have left or won't join the competitive portions of the game. 2012-02-08 17:48:30 Asheara: food for thought.... is boston cream pie a pie or a cake? ... talk amongst yourselves 2012-02-08 17:48:13 Saledo: Geodude was infringing on how others play by blocking camps and such with no recourse, everyone in egypt could have saved up resin and dropped ovens, its not like for the last month people havent been predicting oven wars and didnt know what was coming 2012-02-08 17:47:28 Fumen: feels fair to me. (just an FYI, <semi-professional card gamer) 2012-02-08 17:47:23 Fairy: can i just say, it's a game get over it 2012-02-08 17:46:33 Avanya: ahh ok. Just trying to be clear. I think this is just an interesting case of social dynamics at play. In group is made at outgroup. its emotial. its real. and it never feels fair to anyone. 2012-02-08 17:46:09 Sheeps-KAF: Geodude played by the rules which is why it took the players to ban him, didn't get much praise for it 2012-02-08 17:45:59 Spooner: i want to rapell down cliffs with rope 2012-02-08 17:45:31 Spooner: ty for hard work and all your worker bees 2012-02-08 17:45:02 DisShovel: yep, deceit and misdirection are certainly legal play 2012-02-08 17:44:58 Fumen: i know you're not crying foul, avanya, some people here are thinking it, though 2012-02-08 17:44:58 Saledo: And the fact is there are plenty of players that have no interest in dealing with ovens, and having a trading partner that has all the tiles make it very convenient to get what you need in one trade session instead of searching all over egypt for someone who has the colors you need 2012-02-08 17:44:45 Gumby: hey spooner :) 2012-02-08 17:44:39 Gumby: Intentional deceit from what? Opening a few techs vs. pushing research are two different things. 2012-02-08 17:44:39 Disintoxication: Is a crematory macro out yet :)? 2012-02-08 17:44:21 Avanya: I'm not crying foul. I know they played by the rules of this game. but its a game about community as well as competition. There is a balance that is up to every player to decide on. 2012-02-08 17:43:54 Spooner: hiya gumby 2012-02-08 17:43:25 Fumen: not really. it's a game. people are going to play to get ahead. when you play in a competitive game, it's stupid to cry foul when someone is plying by the rules 2012-02-08 17:43:11 DisShovel: that does implied that is was completely planned Gumby. So intentional deceit? 2012-02-08 17:42:28 Avanya: Logically, yes they played by the rules. Do I have to like it? nope. The outrage from the secracy is jsut as valid as their playstyle 2012-02-08 17:42:06 Gumby: Others benefited from FoA opening techs for the first 5 tales, seemed rather boring to do the same thing a 6th time. It takes 3 rounds of tech timers for raeli to be open so the entire process took 72 hours. 2012-02-08 17:41:52 fizzles: We can usually tell when a tech opened by checking the wiki logs :) 2012-02-08 17:41:52 Asheara: cake is pretty good too 2012-02-08 17:41:51 Saledo: Fizzles that is because most of us dont have the time nor inclination to do the research solo, so we help ourselves by updating the wiki 2012-02-08 17:41:20 Avanya: I am not playing to watchdog how others play. However, I'm entitled to also judge other's by their actions. And, I'm also entitled to not associate or even express dislike with how others play. welcome to a society. People are accountable for how they act. 2012-02-08 17:41:19 DisShovel: btw, this would hardly be the first instance to someone springing open a tech in one shot for their own advantage 2012-02-08 17:41:19 Zazamoukh: to see* 2012-02-08 17:40:41 Zazamoukh: Is there a way to when a tech was opened ? 2012-02-08 17:39:46 fizzles: I don't want to have to check everything in the game myself. I'm lazy :) 2012-02-08 17:39:36 DisShovel: well I would suggest there was minor deceit involved. They said they were not researching and it takes several techs to get to raeli.. so it woud be interesting to see when the prereqs were opened 2012-02-08 17:39:09 fizzles: I strongly disagree with that statement, TreekaSu. Most of us update the wiki to cooperate with each other. And everyone who plays the game uses the wiki at some point. 2012-02-08 17:38:40 Spooner: yay for pie 2012-02-08 17:38:12 Asheara: i like pie! 2012-02-08 17:38:12 TreekaSu: and that it puts it right back on us where it belongs 2012-02-08 17:37:54 Fumen: because the rest of us weren't bothered to check for whatever reason 2012-02-08 17:37:51 TreekaSu: because no one bothered to look 2012-02-08 17:37:49 Spooner: BLT sammiches are good 2012-02-08 17:37:27 Fumen: and why weren't they caught sooner? 2012-02-08 17:36:58 Sheeps-KAF: only cos they werec aught 2012-02-08 17:36:58 Spooner: ty Ashe i never thought of that 2012-02-08 17:36:39 Fumen: and now we all get to benefit from their research. 2012-02-08 17:35:46 Sheeps-KAF: That may be, but I think it's a fair bet they have benefited from others research this tale 2012-02-08 17:35:46 Fumen: you forgot d) weasel your way in and learn, later revolting and divulging all the secrets to the rest of the world 2012-02-08 17:35:44 Asheara: they catch fish... 2012-02-08 17:35:14 TreekaSu: fishing and insect gathering is so painful 2012-02-08 17:34:57 Spooner: any word on what event poles do? 2012-02-08 17:34:54 DisShovel: Many of the competitive portions of this game are badly tilted in favor of legacy players or well coordinated groups. This is apparently by design. You can a) accept this b) not play those portions of the game c) not play at all. 2012-02-08 17:34:38 Asheara: what good would that do if he isn't at home, but in the office instead? 2012-02-08 17:33:36 Fumen: yes, i say we go to teppy's house and slap him with rotten carp until he makes fly fishing skill points reasonable 2012-02-08 17:33:25 Spooner: share wine with spoon ha dowsed the public gold mine 2012-02-08 17:32:59 Arahgon: oe raeli research updated 2012-02-08 17:32:56 TreekaSu: now if you all really want something to cry about...let's talk about FISHING 2012-02-08 17:32:43 blondie: ugh beer 2012-02-08 17:32:42 Poledra: I will be ticked off when in however many weeks it will be we get the constatnt pass funerary temples with a guaranteed raeli kit from FoA 2012-02-08 17:32:16 Emy: i for one am grateful to them for another resin type 2012-02-08 17:31:39 Avanya: If you're ticked, don't trade with them, don't share your wine with them. If you're not, enjoy their company. 2012-02-08 17:31:08 Spooner: ty ashe 2012-02-08 17:31:03 DisShovel: may have to set up a drunk hut near Ash's tables 2012-02-08 17:30:58 TreekaSu: I'm just happy we don't fall down when we drink beer, unlike the stupid wine :( 2012-02-08 17:30:58 Avanya: they don't have to. But then, not everyone is treated the same way either. Treat them based on how you judge their actions 2012-02-08 17:30:50 Fumen: i'm just starting to figure wine out.... don't even want to think of beer 2012-02-08 17:30:14 Asheara: i can't brew fast enough to keep the drunks around here happy... *goes off to brew more beers 2012-02-08 17:30:00 Fumen: FoA is a good group of gamers. They play the game differently than everyone else, but where is it written that everyone has to play the same way? 2012-02-08 17:29:08 Ashtarii: i've not attempted beer yet.. beyond doing some yeast hunting 2012-02-08 17:28:57 Fumen: ie nobody would be sharing techs ;) 2012-02-08 17:28:06 Fumen: honestly, be glad it's not my game. it'd play more like civilization and guilds would have to open up their own schools and universities 2012-02-08 17:28:05 TreekaSu: I made beer for the first time in 5 tales..and that is what makes me happy :) 2012-02-08 17:27:54 Spooner: i dont need them but i enjoy a glass of wine with themon ocassion 2012-02-08 17:27:54 blondie: *will be part of the rest of egypt that doesn't need two-faced people* 2012-02-08 17:27:54 Avanya: One of the things I've heard over and over, is its the community here that makes this game special. If everyone played secretely and competitive, this would be a very different game. I am just glad there are not more people that act thus. 2012-02-08 17:27:54 blondie: the power of holding knowledge back....just long enough, yea, cool 2012-02-08 17:27:48 Anthaeus: 40 gottles? how many did you drink? :) 2012-02-08 17:27:45 Fumen: sounds like you've already been dipping into them, spooner 2012-02-08 17:27:39 fizzles: I have no need of FoA. I'll trade with them if their prices are good. But if they vanished tomorrow, I wouldn't notice 2012-02-08 17:27:08 Nepomuk: the point is, they dont need the rest of Egypt, while Egypt will need them, thats make you angry;) 2012-02-08 17:26:48 Spooner: i have 40 gottles of wine fermenting and amhappy with that also 2012-02-08 17:26:36 TreekaSu: and they have said they will open those ovens 2012-02-08 17:26:22 DisShovel: they are a no appologies power guild. These use the power of their experiance and numbers. deal with it. 2012-02-08 17:26:21 blondie: i understand it's harder to trade when you don't say nice things about people, cool, cool 2012-02-08 17:26:03 Ashtarii: I has 1 oven, and am happy with that much, personally :P 2012-02-08 17:26:02 TreekaSu: no one forces you to trade for anything 2012-02-08 17:25:26 Sheeps-KAF: You mean cornered the market so we have to trade with them 2012-02-08 17:25:08 TreekaSu: just think of all the materials you all saved by not having to donate to it, mats you can use to open those oh so cherished ovens 2012-02-08 17:25:07 blondie: how else would it be kept secret ? mmm 2012-02-08 17:24:51 DisShovel: it matter little anyways. except for a few other power games, FOA is likely to have fielded more ovens as a group then anyone else, and will likely continue to do so until they feel they have all thier needs covered 2012-02-08 17:24:06 Saledo: Yes and the rest of egypt asks for donations at large to open it, I didnt see them soliciting resin in PBS or regionals 2012-02-08 17:23:52 Feyth: Crimson windleaf , anyone need for tattoo 2012-02-08 17:22:59 Arahgon: btw oe raeli research is really close to open just some moonsettel sheets and some resin left to open it 2012-02-08 17:22:58 Poledra: the rest of Egypt choses to announce its techs for everyone to share except for EG, seems really selfish really 2012-02-08 17:22:56 Emy: fair play to them, if none of us thought to look there. oh well :D 2012-02-08 17:22:01 blondie: uh huh, that's all there is to it 2012-02-08 17:21:30 Feyth: no im not missing the point, they opened it them selves and waited for someone to bother to look at their uni's 2012-02-08 17:21:13 Fumen: personally, anyone that believes what another group says in a competitive game environment is being foolish 2012-02-08 17:20:28 Fumen: well, all the FoA people have publicly said they're staying out of the research business. 2012-02-08 17:20:27 blondie: you're missing the point, but whatever 2012-02-08 17:20:26 Bryce: good thing we don't have army's or nuclear warheads...... :D 2012-02-08 17:20:14 blondie: not mad that they opened it themselves... 2012-02-08 17:19:49 Fumen: just be glad this isn't more like civilization and each "faction" has to research tech all by themselves 2012-02-08 17:19:30 Feyth: if we paid more attention to EG probably alot sooner, i mean come on people are mad they opened this themselves and didnt say oh hey i know yall dont help us with research or anything but we opened raeli here 2012-02-08 17:18:50 Fumen: blondie: say "thank you" and then go "haha!! you suck at secrets!" 2012-02-08 17:17:42 TreekaSu: They are different Chelsis 2012-02-08 17:17:41 Fumen: they do move, but if you can build more ovens than others and faster, you get to find the rare colors first 2012-02-08 17:17:27 blondie: Asheara, that's not the point, the point is, when we would have known another resin was available? 2012-02-08 17:17:05 Chelsis: Are color locations the same then this tale? I thought like metal veins they were supposed to move and change? 2012-02-08 17:16:15 Fumen: ie: pick over what you think are going to be the best locations for colors first 2012-02-08 17:16:14 Feyth: i know poor spindles got that shaft now they are loved again 2012-02-08 17:15:50 Fumen: so you can get a monopoly on raeli tiles? 2012-02-08 17:15:41 TreekaSu: just think of the poor lilttle spindle trees..bracing themselves for an onslaught of nickers 2012-02-08 17:15:40 Feyth: well i didnt prepare for that resion so im gonna complain is the way of it :P 2012-02-08 17:15:30 Emy: yay! maybe now i can gather enough hawthorn to do moonsteel again :D 2012-02-08 17:15:07 Poledra: we are happy, but why keep it a secret? 2012-02-08 17:14:44 Asheara: *sets the drama meter to extremely high...ya'll should be happy there's another choice of resin to build from... 2012-02-08 17:14:43 Poledra: it is spindle tree picked it up myself 2012-02-08 17:14:26 blondie: *pokes Zazamoukh* 2012-02-08 17:14:17 Feyth: blondie said it was spindle tree 2012-02-08 17:14:10 Fumen: spindle tree 2012-02-08 17:14:09 Nepomuk: hmmm....everyone coplaining about their behavior...but everyone is running to get the benefit.....THATS social, offcourse 2012-02-08 17:13:57 Zazamoukh: what resin is it ? 2012-02-08 17:13:56 Feyth: does anyone know if grey tiles still work for greyish and grayish? 2012-02-08 17:13:09 Fumen: EG 2012-02-08 17:13:08 Avanya: Break social normals, and the group will dislike you. 2012-02-08 17:12:57 Feyth: Last call Fire Allspice, if i dont get a tattoo request im harvesting 2012-02-08 17:12:57 Avanya: yes, everyone can check. But it is customary for wiki's to be updated, and announcements to be made. As a sense of curtosy to the community. Others do. Its not REQUIRED. But, socially expected. 2012-02-08 17:12:51 Zazamoukh: where ? 2012-02-08 17:12:50 TreekaSu: you are so right Fumen, I put a trial down there just to check on things, fully expecting that would happen 2012-02-08 17:12:23 blondie: raeli pottery 2012-02-08 17:12:11 Zazamoukh: What tech ? 2012-02-08 17:11:36 blondie: yes, it's been confirmed, i picked up the tech, that's why i announced it 2012-02-08 17:11:15 blondie: it's fine if you're going to solo stuff but this is a little different than just soloing stuff. You want people's cooperation for certain things, then you keep certain info to yourself that will definitely benefit you 2012-02-08 17:11:06 Fumen: thing is, the tech is open for all. nothing has been or ever will stop anyone from running out there and seeing what others are up to. 2012-02-08 17:10:53 Feyth: so has it actually been verified or is this rumor? 2012-02-08 17:10:24 Avanya: (blah, sorry for grammar mess up there) 2012-02-08 17:09:44 Avanya: those who play sololy for themselves should, and are so prepared, should (and I hope are) expecting the backlash of negative opinion about their actions. 2012-02-08 17:08:17 Avanya: Hoever, at some point, when a sense of community and shaing is completely left off the table, don't get mad if that community at large resents it. 2012-02-08 17:07:56 blondie: that's really reasonable, yea, keeping info to yourself while others give it freely, sure. 2012-02-08 17:07:56 Feyth: fire allspice for tattoo anyone? 2012-02-08 17:07:05 Avanya: And certainly, being prepared is to be applauded! 2012-02-08 17:07:04 blondie: it is in everyone's interest but it's rather convenient to open a tech for the resin and be the first to know so they can target another resin 2012-02-08 17:07:01 Avanya: Because Egypt, while competitive, is also about working together as a community. Most folks will not harbor resentment about reasonable competition. 2012-02-08 17:06:59 Poledra: How about the fact that nobody has mentioned it and nobody has updated the wiki, its sly 2012-02-08 17:05:09 TreekaSu: we all knew it was coming, and we all could have been gathering resin since the wedges were out 2012-02-08 17:04:22 TreekaSu: everyone had as much chance to be gathering resin all along, why do we always bash those who prepare for things 2012-02-08 17:04:04 Feyth: its in everyones interest to get another resin type oven open 2012-02-08 17:03:05 Fumen: and that's ok! 2012-02-08 17:02:53 Fumen: of course they're not going to mention it. There's only a dozen or so people living out there, all of whom are power gamers 2012-02-08 16:59:39 blondie: no, it makes it really interesting that someone from EG was saying yesterday that they'd help with hawthorn resin for oe and no mention they were near or had opened the tech 2012-02-08 16:59:27 Poledra: would explain the 20+ ovens people have already when the rest of us are struggling with there first or second 2012-02-08 16:59:05 Fumen: someone might want to poke their uWorship, too 2012-02-08 16:58:20 Fumen: and does that really surprise you? 2012-02-08 16:57:51 Bastia: "Interestings" is one word for it. 2012-02-08 16:57:50 Anthaeus: not us for a change, we are c,lose tho 2012-02-08 16:57:21 Fumen: it would be OE if any 2012-02-08 16:57:18 blondie: yea, raeli pottery is also open in EG, with spindle tree, no updates on research page....interesting 2012-02-08 16:57:17 Bastia: Ah. 2012-02-08 16:56:42 blondie: seems a region may have opened raeli pottery, but no wiki update 2012-02-08 16:55:18 Bastia: If what's true? 2012-02-08 16:54:38 blondie: hm, wonders if it's true about the spindle resin.... 2012-02-08 16:30:27 Asheara: The point has one as well in river plains, in fact most of our tools are public 2012-02-08 16:17:13 Nicko: ok, tnx 2012-02-08 16:16:29 Rabble: Amigos in 7L has 2 public chem labs 2012-02-08 16:05:46 Nicko: where i can find public chem lab? 2012-02-08 15:59:37 Token: lol, I would have to agree 2012-02-08 15:59:14 BusDriverBen: yeah, but 0/1000 is horrible! 2012-02-08 15:58:28 Token: collecting clay is not very effective according to the wiki 2012-02-08 15:57:39 BusDriverBen: so, I just collected 1k clay, and got zero bugs... anybody know if time of day, or pollution plays a role in that? 2012-02-08 15:41:49 Poledra: thank you 2012-02-08 15:41:15 Fumen: hmm...is it starting to cap off a bit? 2012-02-08 15:40:47 Moonboots: 34910 yesterday 2012-02-08 15:39:44 Poledra: Anybody know the cost of a speed point ? 2012-02-08 15:28:58 Ruby: large spawn of NJ in 7L 1928, -1329, close to Uthought 2012-02-08 15:28:57 oDiS: bouti, if you still need a grandson, I'll be a the 7L cs in about half an hour 2012-02-08 15:27:03 Yerbouti: old home week all these olde Egyptians from way back when 2012-02-08 15:26:06 Phoenixwcu: Bouti!!!!! welcome back 2012-02-08 15:26:05 Puffs: ty ty Melissa Ann... 7 lb 15 ounces (3.6 kilograms) born the 6th 21 inches long and pretty as her grandma :) 2012-02-08 15:26:04 Bryce: awesome, grats, Puffs!!!!!!! 2012-02-08 15:26:03 Emy: omw for catnip 2012-02-08 15:24:39 Yerbouti: congratters! 2012-02-08 15:24:39 Puffs: so posts are gonna be delayed a hair occassionally :) 2012-02-08 15:24:14 Puffs: sorry all this mod is distracted today... new grandbaby comming home tonight :) 2012-02-08 15:23:12 Yerbouti: BTW I still need a grandson of oracle and a legacy of sage if anyone wants a visit 2012-02-08 15:23:12 Yerbouti: yipes 2012-02-08 15:23:09 Bryce: welcome back, Yerbouti! 2012-02-08 15:23:09 Kimber: Large catnip spawn field Cots SW of cs 3635 -1211 2012-02-08 15:12:05 Kimber: wow, Sallah and Yerbouti /me faints 2012-02-08 15:11:29 Puffs: Bouti.... I think they know your back now :) 2012-02-08 15:10:57 Kimber: O M G Yerbouti 2012-02-08 15:10:50 oDiS: BOUTI BOUTI BOUTI BOUTI ROCKIN EVERYWHERE! :D 2012-02-08 15:10:49 Sheeps-KAF: Bah, I thought that would be the last place you would look 2012-02-08 15:10:39 Yerbouti: in fact I'm writing a book about cicada cage placement if anyone wants to send me coords for good examples 2012-02-08 15:10:28 Puffs: hum was that my cage ? lol 2012-02-08 15:10:13 Nchanter: Bouti!!!!!!!! 2012-02-08 15:10:02 Yerbouti: so where is that exackly? I'd like to leave them a note 2012-02-08 15:09:11 Nchanter: (but please feel free to continue to do so) 2012-02-08 15:08:44 Nchanter: dear people of egypt: it is not very smart to location a cicada cage on a straigt line between an active guild and their expo site. just saying. 2012-02-08 14:11:28 Vae: yes, probably ! thanks 2012-02-08 14:09:57 Kimber: cinnhamon? 2012-02-08 14:09:06 Vae: lithrum base with gokhru leaves 2012-02-08 14:09:05 Vae: what herb has a brambly base and striped leaves? looks like verdant squill a bit with cloverlike leaves? 2012-02-08 14:03:11 Hemporis: otter at -996 5411 2012-02-08 13:33:29 Auset: pepper yeild 16 watering 2 jugs each time 2012-02-08 13:26:48 Fuzz: I know at least one deaf person who uses visual aids to hunt cicadas and other things 2012-02-08 13:26:48 Fuzz: Audacity is one - some people use that for hunting frogs 2012-02-08 13:26:47 Fuzz: There are many programs that display visually the sounds that come out of your speakers 2012-02-08 13:23:16 Poledra: it is possible to see them in the tray rather than hear them especially if you are doing things facing the same orientation as your mines 2012-02-08 13:23:16 Solaris: ah yes, a flyaway msg would be nice :) 2012-02-08 13:20:15 Chet: my sound is a bit unreliable so its hard to keep 'listening' for gems. And I wonder how people who are deaf manage 2012-02-08 13:20:14 emeraldlily: i think he want's a flyaway msg instead of just depending on the gurgle 2012-02-08 13:16:01 Solaris: not sure what you mean Chet?? 2012-02-08 13:16:01 Solaris: hello kuupid :) 2012-02-08 13:10:52 kuupid: Good morning Egypt HUGS 2012-02-08 13:01:36 Poledra: Yep Solaris, been running our 2 for the last 5 weeks :) 2012-02-08 13:01:22 Chet: << wants an option to know there is agem that is not sound dependent 2012-02-08 12:59:25 Solaris: can I give you people a piece of advice without anyone getting offended? Cuttable gems is not something that can be forced by intensive game activity. They take the time they take, and once you really need them it is to late to start collecting. So collecting regularly is a really good idea :) 2012-02-08 12:54:05 Jaylenaeybarre: ah ok, it is only running for about 10 min now :) 2012-02-08 12:54:04 Solaris: paint spreadsheet: Go to tab 'PracticalPaint Export' and copy-paste that to the text file of practical paint 2012-02-08 12:53:28 Poledra: trial and error, I wouldnt change it any less than 30 mins when you first start it 2012-02-08 12:50:57 Jaylenaeybarre: well that's my problem, how long do I wait until i should change the pitch angle 2012-02-08 12:49:45 Sheeps-KAF: Our watermine sits for ages then throws a load out, depends if you have the right pitch and just on the mine i tink 2012-02-08 12:47:33 Waerloga: any instructions on how to use that spreadsheet? 2012-02-08 12:47:30 Joey: ty 2012-02-08 12:47:29 Jaylenaeybarre: how long should one wait before getting gems of the watermine? 2012-02-08 12:45:01 Solaris: I would really like if it was easier to upload a file without zipping it 2012-02-08 12:44:08 Solaris: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/File:Paint$T3_paint_reaction_values.zip 2012-02-08 12:33:10 Joey: anyoe knows where to find the paint reaction spreadsheet from previous tales? 2012-02-08 12:15:14 Jaylenaeybarre: you probably need metal treatment but isn't researched atm 2012-02-08 12:14:27 Joey: if anyone needs spiderling mushrooms the mountains around 1189, -4489 (SE) seem to be crawling with them 2012-02-08 12:13:33 Joey: what we need to amke a stainless steel pot? 2012-02-08 12:12:26 Bri: Quite a bit. :) Not the *most* infamous, but a pain in the tush 2012-02-08 12:11:58 Nethkharia: I just wanted to know what he'd done before I voted, I thought it might be a good idea to know what he's done :) 2012-02-08 12:11:57 Bri: I missed that one 2012-02-08 12:10:22 Poledra: not to forget stealing cuttable stones 2012-02-08 12:10:17 Bri: If you can tell me what I'm supposed to do with my compound now, I'll revoke my 'ban' vote 2012-02-08 12:10:17 blondie: put the link by itself, makes it able to just click on the link for others 2012-02-08 12:09:27 Bri: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/User:Kuupid for kuupid's version 2012-02-08 12:09:27 Duncan: and MV 2012-02-08 12:09:27 Bri: In addition to what you will see - which he did elsewhere - he and his buddies lagged areas with ubndreds of sand droped, handed points hundreds of silt one by one, causing a ton of popups... even extorted 100 linen out of a couple RP residents. 2012-02-08 12:07:52 Bri: Yup 2012-02-08 12:07:38 Bri: 1517 2218 2012-02-08 12:07:38 blondie: OE and 7lks too, right? 2012-02-08 12:06:51 Nethkharia: where in RP are you? 2012-02-08 12:06:15 Bri: You can check out my camp and see part of it. :) 2012-02-08 12:06:11 Bri: You in RP? 2012-02-08 12:06:11 bcoastaldawn: see kuupid's info i think she has the explanation on that or her user page 2012-02-08 12:04:34 Nethkharia: Can someone tell me what geodude has done? I've never met the man so i have no clue 2012-02-08 12:02:27 Bri: I do miss conflict.... 2012-02-08 12:02:27 Bri: I actually don't mind body and sometimes worship. :P 2012-02-08 12:01:55 kanara: looking for worship initiation partner please chat me if you are too :) 2012-02-08 12:01:55 blondie: i guess i'd have to disagree. Why would the other inits be less important? Because you don't like those disciplines? ;p 2012-02-08 12:00:01 Bri: I'd argue of our inits... leadership and architecture are the only two really important ones 2012-02-08 12:00:01 Bri: That one is super simple and actually has a point, unlike worship or body's 2012-02-08 11:58:32 blondie: inits can be a pain, i just don't see why they should be made tougher 2012-02-08 11:57:27 Bri: It was a long time ago. :) But it was still not a bad idea. 2012-02-08 11:56:17 Bri: Picking up 10000 clay for SLURP? :P 2012-02-08 11:55:32 blondie: and look where that got you? ;p 2012-02-08 11:55:31 bcoastaldawn: lol, but that is many tales ago ;-) 2012-02-08 11:55:17 blondie: i think i had Kir and Rhydereh ask me about being a leader. That was really annoying 2012-02-08 11:54:58 Bri: Shush blondie. :P 2012-02-08 11:54:58 Bri: Oh, I mean the initiation dawn. I remember in T1, I got GRILLED over what a good leader was before half the people signed it. 2012-02-08 11:54:34 blondie: leadership inits? hm, you're definitely from t1, bri ;p 2012-02-08 11:54:10 bcoastaldawn: DP is another story 2012-02-08 11:54:08 bcoastaldawn: For the initial level, yes it is regularly just signed 2012-02-08 11:53:17 Bri: Apparently I missed the memo when leadership petitions are supposed to be signed without question and/or the only qualification for being a good leader is 'I'm pretty'> 2012-02-08 11:51:55 Bri: The next generation of Egypt's leaders worry me.... 2012-02-08 11:17:45 Sabina: I am not absolutely sure, but he did mention something about from 7am Sunday 2012-02-08 11:15:54 Bri: Always 2012-02-08 11:15:18 Casino: what time is that Sabina? 2012-02-08 11:14:32 Sabina: we might make it a smoke out too, if anyone still needs points 2012-02-08 11:05:56 Bri: Cool 2012-02-08 11:04:40 Poledra: Augir is arranging a flax party I believe for the 81k flax needed 2012-02-08 11:02:36 Bri: Any news on flax automation? 2012-02-08 10:51:29 Minerva: i need to find 2 more cicadas to get another cage 2012-02-08 10:50:53 Dedalus: imust hide my 2nd cage to get more points 2012-02-08 10:49:21 Minerva: but then again, so many people found mine :( 2012-02-08 10:49:09 Bri: I needa get ferry tech. 2012-02-08 10:48:55 Minerva: DN and cicadas go hand-in-hand... i found so many cicadas while hunting for shrooms 2012-02-08 10:48:41 Bri: Well, yeah. You know what I meant thoguh 2012-02-08 10:48:19 Joey: not the highest.. the 21st highest 2012-02-08 10:48:19 Bri: Once I deal with SLURP stuff, I'm going out into the wilds to deal with DN, safari, and cicadas. 2012-02-08 10:48:19 Dedalus: but if people still gain points once pass could still increase 2012-02-08 10:47:31 Bri: It depends upon what the highest number of poitns a player has. If the highest is 20k, it's 20k 2012-02-08 10:47:31 Minerva: i do hope it peaks soon 2012-02-08 10:47:03 Bri: Not always. 2012-02-08 10:46:31 Dedalus: does it always increase 2012-02-08 10:45:46 Bri: Damn... THe over 7ers needa give it a rest. 2012-02-08 10:44:07 Dedalus: thanks 2012-02-08 10:43:50 Mortality: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Who_Got_Speed 2012-02-08 10:43:24 kastou: something like 35k (was 31.6k 4 day's ago) 2012-02-08 10:42:43 Dedalus: to get one speed point 2012-02-08 10:42:05 Dedalus: How many points in cicada test atm 2012-02-08 10:33:42 Minerva: that's a lot of charcoal... 2012-02-08 10:33:21 Mortality: ouch.. 2012-02-08 10:03:36 Bessieloo: 2 full benches and you'll get the skill maxed 2012-02-08 10:03:36 Chronos: hmm i am at 60 broken glass atm and have 4/7 2012-02-08 10:02:43 Fuzz: you wil probably lose about 20-30 sheet glass before you reach skill 7 - then you will never lose another 2012-02-08 10:02:43 Bessieloo: it's not hard, you'll break between 40-50 before skill is 7/7 2012-02-08 10:01:00 Chronos: hmm how rare is to get skillgain in glass sheet making? 2012-02-08 09:24:21 Redshift: No, and they are insanely expensive to build and offer only marginal improvement 2012-02-08 09:24:21 BusDriverBen: lol, kinda sorry I went looking now that I see all those mats! 2012-02-08 09:23:23 Minerva: are they easier to deal with than the ovens? 2012-02-08 09:23:23 Redshift: We cannot make them yet. And if we could... you wouldn't want to make one :) 2012-02-08 09:22:47 BusDriverBen: nvm, think I found it... :( 2012-02-08 09:20:43 BusDriverBen: are we able to make cc braziers at all? or is the tech not even available? I can't seem to find it on wiki 2012-02-08 08:50:17 Lotus: gives you some fresh herbs as garnish 2012-02-08 08:49:44 Spooner: ;) 2012-02-08 08:48:34 Lotus: seasoned with salt and pepper? 2012-02-08 08:47:33 Spooner: i just eat the legs lol 2012-02-08 08:47:07 Zaniac: nah otters aint a myth had one 50 coords from camp on first day so told fez to get it 2012-02-08 08:46:48 Lotus: omg....frog experts or what?? : )) 2012-02-08 08:45:51 Lotus: that has thrown me a few times. thinking the pond was in one area, only to be in another area 2012-02-08 08:45:50 Spooner: always jump couple times sometimes can get 2 or 3 same spot 2012-02-08 08:44:51 sunandshadow: yes, also choose a place where there is a smooth single shoreline, not a lot of ponds 2012-02-08 08:44:34 Lotus: lol, seems like you've mastered it :) 2012-02-08 08:43:51 Spooner: it is easiest with headphones orient NS and find center then EW find center and jump 2012-02-08 08:40:36 Lotus: I have almost given up on the frogs. 2012-02-08 08:39:39 BusDriverBen: otters are a myth 2012-02-08 08:39:25 sunandshadow: I caught one frog - it's definitely a slow annoying process though 2012-02-08 08:39:25 BusDriverBen: frogs just take alot of time, and patiance... 2012-02-08 08:38:37 Lotus: Ive come across a few, but never been able to catch them...nor those croaky frogs :( 2012-02-08 08:37:05 Spooner: but they can occur in grass also 2012-02-08 08:36:44 Spooner: i bagged 3 otters in various deserts you will find them 2012-02-08 08:36:44 nourbese: they can appear anywhere 2012-02-08 08:35:58 sunandshadow: where do otters usually occur? I've stumbled across several desert rat tracks but not one otter 2012-02-08 08:31:51 Spooner: any ibis sightings? 2012-02-08 08:29:00 Chronos: hello all =) 2012-02-08 08:25:47 Khama: Night Egypt 2012-02-08 08:24:21 kastou: *** board is back *** 2012-02-08 08:01:13 fizzles: Boards are down until another mod comes along 2012-02-08 07:45:08 ellorin: morning Kuupid :) 2012-02-08 07:39:37 kuupid: Good night Egypt HUGS

Geodude: Any more things you want us to not fucking do? Fiduciary: why do mines look like piles of poop? Geodude: pebbly poops kuupid: we would all like it if you would quit building stuff around camps that don't belong toyou Fiduciary: no Geodude: ^ Fiduciary: wait.. will you give me sheeps? Bessieloo: would really like if you left the game Fiduciary: No Geodude: Yeah, I agree, get out fiduciary kuupid: and geodude would be nice if you left also :) Fiduciary: Your wish is my fecals Geodude Geodude doesn't understand what /me means and then farted Fiduciary Fiduciary Geodude uses harden Fiduciary uses trustworthy Fiduciary: Where is your camp kuupid? Fiduciary uses trustworthy Fiduciary: You can trust me. Geodude: Give me 100 linen and I'll leave this region for the rest of the tale (barring going throug the CS of course) Geodude: Otherwise I'm going to be here all day plopping down wood planes around people's compounds and in any pretty location Fiduciary: That is a fine wood plane Geodude. Fiduciary: And also that one. Fiduciary: And the other one. Fiduciary: That one also is quite nice. Geodude: We're just hit

He hit Saledo's place in 7L and built over 210 wood planes where they couldn't expand. He also hit Pascalito's place with wood planes