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Welcome to the Tale 6 Cooking Research Guild and the new home of The MP Project. If you wish to help me with the Cooking Research data gathering we will need to properly do this tale, please come apply to the Guild Hall right next to the Seven Lakes Chariot.


An Intro to Cooking Research

The key rule of early tale research is a strong stomach, a lot of patience, and a good 'ol stop watch! Now another rule of thumb is once you start testing an item, you finish that item before you abandon it. Beware, this can be anywhere from 6 different cookings, to 10. So be prepared to be tied to that kitchen! Now, in a little more detail, the first step is to plot everything out. And how we do that is by triangulation. We take an item we want to test, and we pair that item up with 3 common items which will be paired with every single other item in existence, or at least until we have a good base of items to plot on a scatter chart.

The 3 Common items we will use to pair everything with this tale are: Onion, Leek, Camel Meat. If one or more of these fail the backups are Cabbage Juice, Oil.

Now, you test each pairing with 6 of one common ingredient, and 1 of the item in question that you are testing. Now since we do not have 7 gastro yet to evaluate it with the click of a button, you have to eat it and sit there with a stop watch timing the duration of the pairing to the exact second. Once done, write that down! Make sense? Awesome! Now, put 13 of the same common ingredient, and 1 of the item in question. Eat, and time to the exact second. Write that down. Go ahead and write down the stats if they look gorgeous as well. Once done, put them on here, in the section below. It doesn't have to look pretty, just keep everything on the same line so I can easily parse it once I fix the spreadsheet.

Tests Done

Green = Added to Spreadsheet
Orange = Times too close or exceed possible parameters. Needs retesting or verification
Red = Model indicates this time is likely incorrect. Please reverify and annotate.
Italics = Hashed. Don't try again.


6 Cabbage 1 Mutton = 467 Seconds | 13 Cabbage 1 Mutton = 461
6 Cabbage + 1 Cabbage Juice = 161 | 13 Cabbage 1 Cabbage Juice = 158
6 Cabbage + 1 Garlic = Hash
6 Cabbage + 1 Oil = Hash
6 Cabbage + 1 Camel Meat = Hash
6 Cabbage 1 Carrot Juice = Hash
6 Cabbage 1 Carrot = Hash
6 Cabbage + 1 Pepper = Hash
6 Cabbage + 1 Coconut Meat = 345 | 13 Cabbage 1 Coconut Meat = 336

6 Mutton 1 Carrot = 413 Seconds | 13 mutton 1 Carrot = 403
6 Mutton 1 Onion = 477 | 13 mutton 1 Onion = 468
6 Mutton 1 Pepper = 375 | 13 mutton 1 Pepper = 366
6 Mutton 1 Cabbage Juice = 374 | 13 Mutton 1 Cabbage Juice = 367
6 Mutton 1 Carrot Juice = Hash
6 Mutton 1 Oil = Hash
6 Mutton 1 Garlic = Hash
6 Mutton 1 Leek = Hash
6 Mutton 1 Coconut Meat = 179 | 13 Mutton 1 Coconut Meat = 174
6 Mutton 1 Grilled Fish = 865 | 13 Mutton 1 Grilled Fish = 857
6 Mutton 1 Carp = 222|13 Mutton 1 Carp = 218
6 Mutton 1 Catfish = Hash
6 Mutton 1 Chromis = 58 | 13 Mutton 1 Chromis = 52
6 Mutton 1 Anansi = 96 |13 Mutton 1 Anansi = 77
6 Mutton 1 Azure Tristeria = 186 | 13 Mutton 1 Azure Tristeria = 159
6 Mutton 1 Banto = 198 | 13 Mutton 1 Banto = 183


6 Onion 1 Carrot = 888 | 13 Onion 1 Carrot = 882
6 Onion 1 Pepper = 719 | 13 Onion 1 Pepper = 710
6 Onion 1 Cabbage Juice = Hash
6 Onion 1 Oil = 478 | 13 Onion 1 Oil = 470
6 Onion 1 Carrot Juice = 536 | 13 Onion 1 Carrot Juice = 528
6 Onion 1 Garlic = Hash
6 Onion 1 Leek = 187 | 13 Onion 1 Leek = 183
6 Onion 1 Anansi = Hash

6 Carrot Juice 1 Coconut Meat = Hash
6 Oil 1 Coconut Meat = Hash
6 Garlic 1 Coconut Meat = Hash


6 Carrot 1 Pepper = 940 | 13 Carrot 1 Pepper = 927
6 Carrot 1 Cabbage Juice = Hash
6 Carrot 1 Carrot Juice = 427 | 13 Carrots 1 Carrot Juice = 418
6 Carrot 1 Oil = 595 | 13 Carrots 1 Oil = 587
6 Carrot 1 Garlic = Hash
6 Carrot 1 Leek = 88 | 13 Carrot 1 Leek = 82

6 Pepper 1 Carrot
6 Pepper 1 Cabbage Juice = 26 | 13 Pepper 1 Cabbage Juice = 19
6 Pepper 1 Carrot Juice = 287 | 13 Pepper 1 Carrot Juice = 283
6 Pepper 1 Oil = 581 | 13 Pepper 1 Oil = 576
6 Pepper 1 Garlic = Hash
6 Pepper 1 Leek = Hash
6 Pepper 1 Carp = hash
6 Pepper 1 Catfish = 68 | 13 Pepper 1 Catfish = 65 (+1 Con)
6 Pepper 1 Chromis = 599 | 13 Pepper 1 Chromis = 594

6 Cabbage Juice 1 Carp = hash
6 Cabbage Juice 1 Anansi = 815 | 13 Cabbage Juice 1 Anansi = 791
6 Cabbage Juice 1 Azure Tristeria = 620 |13 Cabbage Juice 1 Azure Tristeria = 598
6 Cabbage Juice 1 Banto = 404 | 13 Cabbage Juice 1 Banto = 393


6 Carrot Juice 1 Yigory = Strange outcome - upon consumption I got message in main saying I ate the food yet got no stats (unlike when a combination 'does nothing for me')

6 Oil 1 Carrot = 604|13 Oil 1 Carrot = 595 (+1 per)
6 Oil 1 Carrot Juice = 522|13 Oil 1 Carrot Juice = 521 (+1per)
6 Oil 1 Cabbage Juice = hash
6 Oil 1 Garlic = hash
6 Oil 1 Leek = 284|13 Oil 1 Leek = 277 (+1str/+1per)
6 Oil 1 Pepper = 581|13 Oil 1 Pepper = 576 (+1con/+1per)
6 Oil 1 Carp = hash
6 Oil 1 Catfish = 162 | 13 Oil 1 Catfish = 160 (+1per)
6 Oil 1 Chromis = 819 |13 Oil 1 Chromis = 814

6 Leek 1 Carrot = 89|13 Leek 1 Carrot = 81 (+1str/end/per)
6 Leek 1 Carrot Juice = 771|13 Leek 1 Carrot Juice = 761 (+1str/end)
6 Leek 1 Cabbage Juice = hash
6 Leek 1 Oil = 279|13 Leek 1 Oil = 271s (+1str/end/per)
6 Leek 1 Garlic = hash
6 Leek 1 Pepper = hash
6 Leek 1 Carp = 65|13 Leeks 1 Carp = 57 (+1str/+1end)
6 Leek 1 Catfish = 636 | 13 Leek 1 Catfish = 623 (+1str/+1end)
6 Leek 1 Chromis = 450 | 13 Leek 1 Chromis = 441
6 Leek 1 Anansi = Hash
6 Leek 1 Azure Tristeria = Hash
6 Leek 1 Yigory = 118 | 13 Leek 1 Yigory = 95


6 Camel Meat 1 Carrot = 514|13 Camel Meat 1 Carrot = 507 (+1dex/+1per)
6 Camel Meat 1 Carrot Juice = 502|13 Camel Meat 1 Carrot Juice = 495 (+1dex/+1per)
6 Camel Meat 1 Cabbage Juice = hash
6 Camel Meat 1 garlic = hash
6 Camel Meat 1 Oil = 184|13 Camel Meat 1 Oil = 179 (+1dex/+1per)
6 Camel Meat 1 Pepper = 357|13 Camel Meat 1 Pepper = 355 (+1dex/+1per)
6 Camel Meat 1 Leek = 226|13 Camel Meat 1 Leek = 220 (+1dex/+1per)
6 Camel Meat 1 Yigory = 682 | 13 Camel Meat 1 Yigory = 657
6 Camel Meat 1 Carp = 725 |13 Camel Meat 1 Carp = 717


6 Dates 1 Banto = 221 | 13 Dates 1 Banto = 206
6 Acorns Cap 1 Azure Tristeria = 842 | 13 Acorns Cap 1 Azure Tristeria = 815
6 Acorns Cap 1 Banto = 917 | 13 Acorns Cap 1 Banto = 910
6 Acorns Cap 1 Anansi = 476 | 13 acorn caps 1 Anansi = 455

6 Coconut Meat 1 Mutton = 172 | 13 Coconut Meat 1 Mutton = 169
6 Coconut Meat 1 Oil = Hash
6 Coconut Meat 1 Leek = Hash
6 Coconut Meat 1 Date = Hash
6 Coconut Meat 1 Cabbage Juice = NO stats - unable to time


Bleeding Hand:
6 Leeks 1 Bleeding Hand = Hash
6 Mutton 1 Bleeding Hand = 191 | 13 Mutton 1 Bleeding Hand = 185
6 Oil 1 Bleeding Hand = Hash
6 Acorn's 1 Bleeding Hand = Hash
6 Cabbage Juice 1 Bleeding Hand = 405 | 13 Cabbage Juice 1 Bleeding Hand= 399
6 Dates 1 Bleeding Hand =Hash
6 Grilled Cabbage 1 Bleeding Hand = ___ | 13 Grilled Cabbage 1 Bleeding Hand = ___
6 Fish Oil 1 Bleeding Hand = ___ | 13 Fish Oil 1 Bleeding Hand = ___

Abdju Meat:
6 Cabbage Juice 1 Abdju = hash
6 Leek 1 Abdju = 596 | 13 leeks 1 abdju = 590 (+1 str, +1 end)
6 Carrot Juice, 1 Abdju = 772 | 13 carrot juice, 1 abdju = 767 (+1 speed)
6 Onion, 1 Abdju = 550 | 13 onions 1 abdju = 541 (+1 spd)
6 Mutton, 1 Abdju = 43 seconds | 13 mutton, 1 abdju = 35 seconds (+1 end, +1 con)

Fish Oil:
6 Cabbage Juice 1 Fish Oil 442 | 13 cabbage juice, 1 fish oil 439 (+1 dex, +1 end, +1 con)
6 Mutton 1 Fish Oil = hashed
6 Pepper 1 Fish Oil = hashed
6 Acorns Cap 1 Fish Oil = 472 | 13 Acorns Cap 1 Fish oil = 464 (Tested the 6:1 twice due to discrepency - Tammie)
6 Dates 1 Fish Oil = Hash
6 Fish Oil 1 Anansi = 714 | 13 Fish Oil 1 Anansi = 691

Grilled Fish:
6 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Fish = 457 | 13 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Fish = 454
6 Onion, 1 Grilled Fish = 383 | 13 Onion, 1 Grilled Fish = 375

Grilled Cabbage:
6 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Cabbage = hashed
6 Leek, 1 Grilled Cabbage = hashed
6 Oil, 1 Grilled Cabbage = hashed
6 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Cabbage = 447| 13 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Cabbage = 438 (+1 dex, 1 end, +1 foc)
6 date, 1 Grilled Cabbage = hashed
6 onion, 1 Grilled Cabbage = hashed
6 mutton, 1 grilled cabbage = worked, no state change, so can't measure time
6 carrot, 1 grilled cabbage = worked, no state change, so can't measure time
6 pepper, 1 grilled cabbage = 154 | 13 pepper, 1 grilled cabbage = 151 (+1 str, +1 con, +1 foc)
6 fish oil, 1 grilled cabbage = 861 | 13 fish oil, 1 grilled cabbage = 847 (+1 con, +1 spd)

Grilled Onion:
6 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Onion = ___ | 13 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Onion = ___
6 Leek, 1 Grilled Onion = ___ | 13 Leek, 1 Grilled Onion = ___
6 Oil, 1 Grilled Onion = ___ | 13 Oil, 1 Grilled Onion = ___
6 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Onion = ___ | 13 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Onion = ___

Grilled Carrots:
6 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Carrots = ___ | 13 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Carrots = ___
6 Leek, 1 Grilled Carrots = ___ | 13 Leek, 1 Grilled Carrots = ___
6 Oil, 1 Grilled Carrots = ___ | 13 Oil, 1 Grilled Carrots = ___
6 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Carrots = ___ | 13 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Carrots = ___

Grilled Garlic:
6 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Garlic = ___ | 13 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Garlic = ___
6 Leek, 1 Grilled Garlic = ___ | 13 Leek, 1 Grilled Garlic = ___
6 Oil, 1 Grilled Garlic = ___ | 13 Oil, 1 Grilled Garlic = ___
6 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Garlic = ___ | 13 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Garlic = ___

Grilled Peppers:
6 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Peppers = ___ | 13 Camel Meat, 1 Grilled Peppers = ___
6 Leek, 1 Grilled Peppers = ___ | 13 Leek, 1 Grilled Peppers = ___
6 Oil, 1 Grilled Peppers = ___ | 13 Oil, 1 Grilled Peppers = ___
6 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Peppers = ___ | 13 Cabbage Juice, 1 Grilled Peppers = ___

Camel's Mane
6 Camels Meat, 1 Camel's Mane = 499 | 13 Camel Meat, 1 Camel's Mane= 487
6 Leek, 1 Camel's Mane = Hash
6 Oil, 1 Camel's Mane = Hash
6 Cabbage Juice, 1 Camel's Mane = 20 | 13 Cabbage Juice, 1 Camel's Mane= 12
6 Onion, 1 Camel's Mane = 337 | 13 Onion, 1 Camel's Mane= 328

Carrion
6 Camel's Meat, 1 Carrion = 494 | 13 Camel Meat, 1 Carrion= 493
6 Leeks, 1 Carrion = 797 | 13 Leeks, 1 Carrion= 788
6 Oil, 1 Carrion = 218 | 13 Oil, 1 Carrion= 204
6 Cabbage Juice, 1 Carrion = Hash

Orange Spongefish Meat
6 Camel Meat 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = Hash
6 Leeks 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = Hash
6 Coconut Meat 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = Hash
6 Cabbage 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = Hash
6 Onions 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = 306 |13 Onions 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = 298
6 Acorns Cap 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = 958 | 13 Acorns Cap 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = 958
6 Pepper 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = ___ | 13 Pepper 1 Orange Spongefish Meat = ___

Phagrus Meat
6 Camel Meat 1 Phagrus Meat = 30 | 13 Camel Meat 1 Phagrus Meat = 25
6 Onions 1 Phagrus Meat = 28 | 13 Onions 1 Phagrus Meat = 23
6 Acorns Cap 1 Phagrus Meat = 173 | 13 Acorns Cap 1 Phagrus Meat = 168

Queen Lionfish Meat
6 Camel Meat 1 Queen Lionfish Meat = Hash
6 Leek 1 Queen Lionfish Meat = Hash
6 Onion 1 Queen Lionfish Meat = Hash
6 Cabbage Juice 1 Queen Lionfish Meat = 678 | 13 Cabbage Juice 1 Queen Lionfish Meat = 664
6 Queen Lionfish Meat 1 Coconut Meat = 594 | 13 Queen Lionfish Meat 1 Coconut Meat = 582
6 Fish Oil 1 Queen Lionfish Meat = 455 | 13 Fish Oil 1 Queen Lionfish Meat = 441

Cat Nip
6 Camel Meat, 1 Cat Nip = 639 | 13 Camel Meat, 1 Cat Nip= 634
6 Leek, 1 Cat Nip = Hash
6 Oil, 1 Cat Nip = Hash

Useful Recipes Found

6 Carrot, 6 Mutton, 1 Grilled Fish, 1 Pepper = 1end, -1spd, 1con, 1per. 29mins40s


Additional Info from Arame's Page

For testing, we then plug the data into a spreadsheet with the following formulas: CookingValues.JPG

The columns are:

  • Base : pretty explanatory, the base you're using in your 6:1 or 13:1 relationship.
  • Additive : the ingredient we're testing.
  • 7Dur : the duration of the 6:1 test. When you enter this, enter min*60 + sec, so that it's extremely easy to check.
  • 14Dur : the duration of the 13:1 test. Same format as 7Dur.
  • Potency = Dur Difference *14 : =(7Dur-14Dur)*14 [on my spreadsheet : (C2-D2)*14 ]
  • Bulk = Duration7 - 1/7(Potency) : =7Dur - (Potency/7) [ C2 - (E2/7) ]
  • Distance = 1000 - Bulk: =1000-Bulk [1000 - F2]