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Fishing Guide

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Skill and Lure Costs

NOTE: You must have at least one insect on you to make a lure.

Skill School Degree Level to learn Skill Cost Lure Type Lure Cost Max Casts to Use
Fly Fishing Body First 1 16 Thread, 1 Sharpened Stick
Arthropodology Worship First 2 100 Dirt
Second 5 200 Tadpoles
Third 8 300 Beeswax
Fourth 11 400 Cactus Sap
Fly Tying Worship First 3 100 Thread, 25 Thorns Fresh 1 Insect 2 Thread 1 Thorn 5
Second 6 7 Nippleworm, 7 Pickel Slug, 7 Leafhopper, 7 Fruit Maggot, 7 Woolly Aphid, 7 Slime Moth, 7 Rose Mite Glazed 1 Insect 2 Thread 1 Cactus Sap 1 Thorn
Third 9 14 Footworm, 14 Clay Slug, 14 Snowberry Butterfly, 14 Woodmoth, 14 Red Cricket, 14 Honey Fly, 14 Skinlicker Preserved 1 Insect 2 Thread 5 Beeswax 1 Thorn 2 Thread
Fourth 12 21 Needleworm, 21 White Mealybug, 21 Rose Swallowtail, 21 Ruby Hornborrer, 21 Ash Centipede, 21 Grass Slug, 21 White Sawfly Hardened 1 Insect 2 Thread 7 Saltpeter 1 Thorn 2 Thread 180
Fifth 15 28 Bristleworm, 28 Blister Beetle, 28 Leaf Snapper, 28 Nightwing, 28 Horned Hookworm, 28 Salt Mite, 28 Hairy Slug
Filleting Worship First 3 7 Knife Blade, 7 Phagrus Meat, 20 Common Basil
Second ? 3 Hatchet, 70 Carp Meat, 25 Salt, 77 Glass Jars

Successful Fishing and Failures

Successful fishing can be improved by using better lures, moving locations often, changing lures when deben of fish goes down to 1. Two techniques might be to be stand in one spot and go through your lures or the lures for the particular fish you want or to move often on the same lure.

Failure messages:

  • "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations."
  • "You didn't catch anything. Try different lures and locations."
  • "You almost caught an odd fish, but you were too late recognizing the bite."
  • "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough."
  • "You almost caught a strange fish, but this rod was just too clumbsy"

There is a chance of losing your lure with each failure. See the chart above for lure lasting times.

Getting a failure message isn't indicative of no fish in the area.

Insects

There are rumored to be 49 different species of Insects, split into 7 different classes.

Insect Class Season,Fish Caught, Max Size
Ash Centipede
Blister Beetle
Bloodworm
Bristleworm
Clay Slug
Corkscrew Asp
Desert Millipede
Dew Fly
Feather Midge
Footworm
Fruit Maggot
Glass Worm
Golden Asp
Grass Slug
Hairy Slug
Honey Fly
Horned Hookworm
Leaf Hopper
Mud Asp
Needleworm
Nippleworm
Orchid Hopper
Oyster Mite
Pickel Slug
Queen Maggot
Red Cricket
Ringed Wasp
Rose Mite
Ruby Hornborrer
Salt Mite
Sand Mite
Skinlicker
Slime Moth
Snowberry Butterfly
Spittlebug
Stonefly
White Mealybug
White Sawfly
Woodmoth
Woolly Aphid

With the Arthropodology skill, can find insects while: Water mining, picking papyrus, collecting wood, thorns, slate, mud, dirt, harvesting flax, diving for pearls, carving wood, foraging, slaughtering sheep

Achievements

  • Found all 7 Tree Dwelling insects.--merek
  • Found all 7 Ground Dwelling insects.--meriamon
  • Found all 7 Water Dwelling Insects. -- NecasT
  • Found all 7 Herb Dwelling Insects. -- Nchanter

Notes

Some BETA experiences (from Detour):

I went out fishing with 2 Red cricket (Fresh) lures. Hopped to about 6 different locations and cast about 10 times before losing both lures with no fish caught. I was getting the messages, "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations," or, "No fish bit. You also lost your lure. Try different lures and locations."

Next I used a Woodmoth (Fresh) lure. I caught 3 fish before losing it. They were 7, 6, and 6 deben Malapterurus. I was standing at 777, -1428 at around 6:26 AM game time. I lost the lure on the same cast as catching a fish and didn't get a notice about it. It just disappeared from my inventory.
(Tanafri: On a successful fish catch, as I understand it, you will always lose the lure.) (Haraelendil: you don't always loose you lure on a succesfull catch)

Finally, I used a Wooly aphid (Fresh) lure. I got to cast it about 3 times from different locations before I lost it with no fish caught.

Some LIVE experiences (from Detour):

Location: -48, -2148

Time: Afternoon, 12 - 3 PM, roughly.

Lure Casts Fish Size in debens
" Abdju 4
Ringed Wasp (Glazed) 9 Catfish 2
" Abdju 1
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 3 - -
Mud Asp (Glazed) 11 Carp 2
" Perch 2
" Catfish 2
Mud Asp (Fresh) 1 - -
Orchid Hopper (Glazed) 17 Tilapia 3
" Chromis 2
" Abdju 1
" Tilapia 1
Red Cricket (Glazed) 2 Perch 2
Sand Mite (Glazed) 15 Catfish 6
" "Unusual" 4 times
Slime Moth (Glazed) 35 Catfish 2
" Catfish 1
" Catfish 1


+2 Speed test - from Grilled Cabbage

Location: -48, -2148

Time: Afternoon, 4:30 - 6:00 PM, roughly.

Lure Casts Fish Size in debens
Sand Mite (Glazed) 24 Catfish 6
" Abdju 3
" Chromis 1
" Catfish 1
" Abdju 1
" Chromis 1
" Catfish 1
" "Unusual" 1 time
Sand Mite (Glazed) 9 Abdju 1
" "Unusual" 1 time
Sand Mite (Glazed) 44 Catfish 1
" Chromis 1
" Abdju 1
" Catfish 1
" Chromis 1
" "Unusual" 3 times
" "Odd" 1 time
Spittlebug (Glazed) 3 - -
Spittlebug (Glazed) 7 Carp 3
" Ayu 1
" Ayu 1
Spittlebug (Glazed) 9 - -


Kaayru: I was fishing at a small pond in Sterope (1626 -697) at 1:25pm. Got the message "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough." - Is speed a factor?

tehm: there is also a "You almost caught an odd fish, but were too late recognizing the bite" message. I tried Grilled Garlic (+foc)- no observable change. Next tried Grilled Carrots (+per) and was still getting the message. Maybe "recognizing" means "snaring" rather than "identifying" and Dex or Speed is needed to "recognize"?
(Tanafri: it's not the *fish* you're not recognizing, but the bite on the line.)


MynxFellswipe: It seems that fish size (in deben) decreases over time. I initially caught a 27db Ayu at 10pm, then gradually smaller (26, 25, 24...) as the hour passed. I had someone else fish next to me after some time. His fish sizes also started around the 26db mark and decreased steadily.

Saluk: I used Orchid Hopper to catch several 1db river crab in one spot (759 -5608) at around 6pm. Always 1db. Switched to Wooly Aphid and immediately caught a 5db river crab. Caught several more 5db with wooly aphid. The lure type definitely affects the size.

Tanafri: Fish has a bulk of 20, regardless of weight.

Akebono: Golden Asp catches big Ayu got 20,19,18,18,17 deben before I lost the lure

Khatz Fishing notes

Which lure for which fish

Lure Type Time of Day Fish Caught Region
Ash Centipede (Fresh&Preserved) 8:40 PM Catfish, Carp,Nile Mackerel
Bat Mite (Fresh) 1:02 PM Octecs Longfin 16db (-1775, 6615) Merope
Bat Mite (Fresh) 8:52 AM Octecs Longfin 28db (1486, 2798) Alycone
Bat Mite (Glazed) 8:30 AM Nile Mackerel
Bat Mite (Glazed) 6:33 AM Bay Lobster 3db, (-1810, 7388) Merope
Bat Mite (Glazed) Octecs Longfin 25db (1486, 2798) Alycone
Blister Beetle (Fresh) unknown Hylian Loach
Blister Beetle (Fresh) 8:45 PM Ayu
Bloodworm (Fresh) unknown River Crab
Bristleworm (Glazed) 9:55 PM Carp 6db (-2425, 6096) Merope
Clay Slug (Fresh) 10:30 PM Catfish, Cromis, Spiny Dogfish, Tilapia
Clay Slug (Fresh) 1:40 PM Tilefish Maia
Clay Slug (Fresh) 7:57 PM Tilefish 41db, (-2, 7692) Merope
Clay Slug (Fresh) 9:12 AM Catfish 4db, Chromis 3db, Tilapia 2db, (1486, 2798) Alcyone
Clay Slug (Glazed) 9:22 AM Catfish 1db (1486, 2798) Alcyone
Clay Slug (Glazed) 6:47 AM Tilapia 2db (-1810, 7388) Merope
Clay Slug (glazed) 11:30 AM Chromis 4db, Tilapia 2db, Catfish 4db (73, 7353) Taygete
Clay Slug (Fresh) 10:40 AM Chromis 3db, Tilapia 2db (75, 7350) Tay
Corkscrew Asp (Fresh) 10:56 PM Chromis 3db, Phagrus 3db, Catfish 8db, Perch 4db, (75, 7350) Tay
Corkscrew Asp (Glazed) 11:09 PM Catfish 2db, Phagrus 1db (12:30 AM), Perch 4db (12:31 AM), Chromis 3db (12:32 AM), Catfish 1db (12:36 AM) (75, 7350) Tay
Footworm (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Footworm (Fresh) 10:54 PM Abdju 3db, Ayu 7db (73, 7350) Taygete
Footworm (Glazed) 9:30 AM Tigerfish
Footworm (Glazed) 8:29 PM, Ayu 5db (-2397, 6900) Merope
Footworm (Glazed) 10:01 PM Ayu 7db, Abdju 2db (-2426, 6096) Merope
Fruit Maggot (Fresh) unknown White Oniontail
Fruit Maggot (Fresh) 8:24 PM Phagrus 4db Sterope
Fruit Maggot (Fresh) 9:24 PM Catfish 4db, Carp 3db, Phagrus 4db, Abdju 2db, Perch 1db Sterope
Fruit Maggot (Fresh) 10:30 AM Catfish (4db), Phagrus (4db), Carp (2db), Perch (1db) Sinai 2389, 5352
Fruit Maggot (Fresh) 7:16 AM Phagrus (4db), Carp (2db), Abdju (2db), Perch (1db), Catfish (1db) (77, 7347) Taygete
Fruit Maggot (Fresh) 3:58 PM Carp 2db (-1776, 6617) Merope
Fruit Maggot (Glazed) 10:14 PM Catfish 1db, Carp 1db, Phagrus 4db, Perch (1db) (-2426, 6096) Merope
Fruit Maggot (Glazed) 11:37 AM Abdju 2db, (73, 7353) Taygete
Fruit Maggot (Glazed) 12:12 AM Phagrus 4db, Catfish 4db (-472, 8014) Merope
Glass Worm (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Glass Worm (Fresh) 3:31 PM Chromis Taygate (758, 5346)
Glass Worm (Fresh) 5:28 AM Pancake Loach, River Crab (1db)
Glass Worm (Fresh) 3:30 PM Phragrus Taygate (758, 5346)
Glass Worm (Fresh) 11:00 PM River Crab
Glass Worm (Fresh) 1:10 PM Tigerfish
Glass Worm (Fresh) 2:26 PM Carp Sinai
Glass Worm (Fresh) 12:26 AM Carp 4db (-473, 8013) Merope
Glass Worm (Fresh) 1:14 PM Phagrus 2db, Carp 4db, Chromis 1db, (-1775, 6616) Merope
Glass Worm (Fresh) 9:28 AM Phagrus 2db, Carp 4db (1486, 2798) Alcyone
Glass Worm (Glazed) 11:09 AM Carp 4db, Phagrus 2db (75, 7539) Tay
Golden Asp (Fresh) 1:55 AM, 2:05 AM Ayu, Phagrus
Grass Slug (Fresh) unknown Hylian Loach
Grass Slug (Fresh) unknown River Crab
Horned Hookworm (Fresh) 9:45 PM Tilapia Celaeno
Horned Hookworm (Fresh) 5:31 AM Perch
Horned Hookworm (Fresh) 10:25 PM Tilapia 3db (-2426, 6096) Merope
Horned Hookworm (Fresh) 12:35 AM Tilapia 3db (-473, 8013) Merope
Horned Hookworm (Fresh) 11:21 PM Tilapia 3db (11:21PM-12:40 AM), Abdju 1db, Perch 1db (75, 7348) Tay
Honey Fly (Fresh) unknown Ayu
Mud Asp (Fresh) 6:20 AM Moonfish
Mud Asp (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Mud Asp (Fresh) 1:40 AM Carp, Perch, Chromis
Mud Asp (Fresh) 11:45 AM Catfish 2db, Carp 3 db, Perch 2db, (72, 7353) Taygete
Mud Asp (Fresh) 8:18 PM Tilefish 4db, Catfish 7db, (-3, 7706) Meorpe
Mud Asp (Glazed) 4:15 AM Carp, Perch, Chromis
Mud Asp (Glazed) 6:08 AM Catfish 7db, Carp 3db, Chromis 1db, Perch 1db (-1815, 7159) Merope
Mud Asp (Glazed) 10:30 PM Catfish 3db, Carp 1db (-2426, 6096) Merope
Mud Asp (Fresh) 11:22 AM Perch 1db, Catfish 7db, Chromis 1db, (75, 7348) Tay
Mud Asp (Glazed) 8:33 PM Tilefish 1db, Catfish 3db, Carp 4db, Perch 1db, Chromis 1db, (-3, 7722) Merope
Needleworm(Fresh) 2:14 PM Abdju Sinai
Needleworm(Fresh) 4:15-25 AM Octecs Longfin 8db, 7db, 7db, 6db, 5db, 6db, 5db, 4db, 4db Merope
Nippleworm (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Nippleworm (Fresh) 6:47 PM Nile Mackerel
Nippleworm (Fresh) 8:48 PM Abdju 6 db, (-3, 7726) Merope
Nippleworm (Fresh) 11:00 AM Nile Mackerel 15db (1487, 2767) Alcyone
Nippleworm (Fresh) 11:36 PM Abdju 2db (73, 7348) Tay
Nippleworm (Glazed) 3:08 PM Nile Mackerel 4db, Shelomits Puffer 3db, Abdju 6db, (-1779, 6616) Merope
Nippleworm (Glazed) 8:59 PM Abdju 1db (-1, 7737) Merope
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 6:30 AM Bay Lobster
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 5:30 PM River Crab
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 4:50 PM Chromis
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 10:11 PM River Crab (33 db)
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 4:46 PM Tilapia, Abjdu
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 7:41 PM Tilapia 3db, River Crab 2db Sterope
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 6:00 PM River Crab 5db
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 10:00 PM River Crab 22db
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 10:30 AM Tilapia (3db), Chromis (2db), Abdju (6db) Sinai 2389, 5352
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 8:43 PM Tilapia 3db, Abdju 5db, Chromis 2db, Catfish 1db, Rivercrab 1db, (-2397, 6099) Merope
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 1:30PM Abdju 6db, Tilapia 3db, Chromis 1db, Abdju 5db (4:00 PM), Tilapia 3db (4:02 PM), Chromis 2db (4:20 PM) (-1775, 6616) Merope
Orchid Hopper (Fresh) 11:55 AM Tilapia 3db, Abdju 6db, Chromis 2db, (1486, 2790) Alcyone
Orchid Hopper (Glazed) 5:30 AM Tilapia
Orchid Hopper (Glazed) 11:44 PM Tilapia 2db, Chromis 2db (75, 7348) Tay
Oyster Mite (Fresh) unknown Hylian Loach
Oyster Mite (Fresh) unknown Malapterurus
Oyster Mite (glazed) 5:40 AM Octecs Longfin 7db, Abjdu 4 db (-1815, 7159) Merope
Pickel Slug(Fresh) unknown Catfish, Phagrus, Carp
Pickel Slug(Fresh) 11:00 AM Catfish
Pickel Slug(Fresh) 7:30 PM Abdju Sinai
Pickel Slug(Fresh) 10:15 PM Catfish 2db
Pickel Slug(Fresh) 12:30 AM Phagrus Celaeno
Pickel Slug (Fresh) 8:59 PM Carp 5db, Phagrus 4db, (-2397, 6099) Merope
Pickel Slug (Fresh) 10:37 PM Phagrus 4db, Abdju 3db, (-2426, 6096) Merope
Pickel Slug(Preserved) 3:45 AM Bay Lobster
Pickel Slug (Glazed) 9:10 PM Phagrus 4db (-1, 7758) Merope
Pickel Slug (Glazed) 11:56 PM Phagrus 4db (73, 7348) Tay
Queen Maggot (Fresh) 1:40 AM Spiky Dogfish
Queen Maggot (Fresh) 11:30 AM Abdju 6db, Carp 5db, Perch 1db (76, 7349) Tay
Queen Maggot (glazed) 12:15 PM Carp 3db, Perch 4db, Abdju 6db (-1597, 7587) Merope
Queen Maggot (Glazed) 12:12 PM Octecs Longfin 15db (1486, 2790) Alcyone
Red Cricket(Fresh) 1:25 PM Tilapia Sinai
Red Cricket(Fresh) 8:28 PM Perch 2db Sterope
Red Cricket (Fresh) 1:43 PM, 6:41 PM Tilapia 1db, Perch 2db, (-1775, 6616) Merope
Red Cricket (Glazed) 4:31 PM, 6:41 PM Perch 2db, Tilapia 1 db, (-1775, 6616) Merope
Red Cricket(Preserved) 5:30 AM Malapterurus (4689,-1482) Sterope
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 11:13 PM River Crab, Catfish, Nile Mackerel
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 4:30 PM Abdju, Catfish
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 7:35 PM Catfish 2db Sterope
Ringed Wasp (Fresh) 12:03 AM Catfish 2db (73, 7348) Tay
Ruby Hornborrer (Fresh) 7:50 PM Carp 6db Sterope
Salt Mite (Fresh) 12:08 PM Phagrus 4db, Tilapia 4db (73, 7353) Taygete
Salt Mite (Glazed) 9:18 PM River Crab 2db, Tilapia 3db, Phagrus 2db (-2097, 6099) Merope
Salt Mite (Glazed) Carp 7db, Abdju 5db, Phagrus 4db, Chromis 3db, Tilapia 1db (-1775, 6619) Merope
Salt Mite (Glazed) 12:13 PM Abdju 4 db, (73, 7353) Taygete
Salt Mite (Glazed) 9:21 PM Carp 7db, Tilapia 5db, Chromis 3db, Phagrus 2db, (-1, 7774) Merope
Sand Mite (Fresh) 12:30PM, 12:43PM Tigerfish, White Oniontail
Sand Mite (Fresh) 12:08 PM Catfish 4db (75,7349) Tay
Sand Mite (Fresh) 9:20 PM Catfish 6db, Abdju 2db, (-2097, 6099) Merope
Sand Mite (Fresh) 2:03 PM Catfish 6db (-1775, 6616) Merope
Sand Mite (Fresh) 9:54 PM Catfish 6db, (-1, 7773) Merope
Sand Mite (Glazed) 9:30 PM Chromis 1db (-2097, 6099) Merope
Sand Mite (Glazed) 12:18 AM Catfish 1db (73, 7348) Tay
Slime Moth (Fresh) unknown Bay Lobster
Slime Moth (Fresh) 8:33-8:45 PM Ayu 18db, River Crab 4db Sterope
Slime Moth (Glazed) 12:30 PM Catfish 8db, Nile Mackerel 14db, (-1597, 7587) Merope
Slime Moth (Glazed) 5:17 PM Tilefish 20 db (-1776, 6617) Merope
Spittle Bug (Fresh) 4:10PM, 7:30 PM, 11:50 PM Ayu
Spittle Bug (Fresh) unknown Catfish
Spittle Bug (Fresh) 6:30 AM, 4:20PM Carp, Chromis unknown, Sinai
Spittle Bug (Glazed) 3:30 AM Carp
Spittle Bug (glazed) 12:30 PM Chromis 1db (-1597, 7587) Merope
White Mealybug (Fresh) 6:30 AM Carp Sinai
White Mealybug (Fresh) 2:50 PM 2 x Carp (2db, 7db), 2 x Abdju (1db, 7db) Sinai 2402, 5350
White Mealybug(Fresh) 7:54 PM Abdju 5db, Carp 2db Sterope
White Mealybug(Fresh) 7:20 AM Octecs Longfin 14db Sinai 2620, 5417
Woodmoth(Glazed) 12:30 AM Tilefish 2db Sinai 4352, 6626
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 6:00 PM, 10:00 PM River Crab
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 6:30 AM Pancake Loach (Fresh)
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 8:04 PM Tilapia 4db, River Crab 8db Sterope
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 10:30 PM Horned Pigfish Sterope(8Spe3Dex)
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 12:48 PM Tilapia 4db, Catfish 6db, Abdju 3db (-1597, 7587) Merope
Wooly Aphid (Fresh) 9:40 PM River Crab 5db (-2097, 6099) Merope

Fish Scales

Scale Color Fish Type Time until Fillet (real time)
Black Ayu, Carp, Catfish, Chromis, Perch, River Crab, Spiny Dogfish, White Oniontail ?
Brown Catfish ?
Cadet Blue Phagrus ?
Crimson Catfish ?
Dark Gray Ayu, Abdju, Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Turquoise Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Green Bay Lobster, Tigerfish < 5mins
Dark Khaki White Oniontail ?
Dark Olive Green Carp, White Oniontail ?
Deep Sky Blue Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Slate Blue Tilefish ?
Dark Slate Gray Abdju, Catfish, White Oniontail, Ayu, Spiny Dogfish, Carp ?
Dim Gray Ayu, Catfish, Spiny Dogfish ?
Gainsboro Perch ?
Golden Rod Carp ?
Gray Abdju, Ayu, Catfish, Perch ?
Indian Red Abdju. River Crab ?
Indigo Pancake Loach ?
Light Blue Phagrus ?
Lime Green Bay Lobster <10m
Light Sea Green Phagrus, Spiny Dogfish ?
Light Slate Blue Tilapia ?
Light Slate Gray Ayu ?
Maroon Chromis, Perch ?
Medium Orchid Ayu ?
Misty Rose Catfish ?
Olive Drab Carp ?
Peru White Oniontail, Chromis ?
Pink Catfish ?
Plum Ayu ?
Rosy Brown Catfish ?
Saddle Brown River Crab, Chromis ?
Salmon Ayu ?
Sandy Brown White Oniontail, Chromis, Carp ?
Sienna Chromis, River Crab, White Oniontail ?
Silver Ayu ?
Slate Blue Tilapia ?
Teal Spiny Dogfish ?
Thistle Ayu ?
Violet Red Catfish ?

Ayu fish seem to tend to yield scales in the purplish range. -- Hekatef