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|| [1246, 3407] || ClaySlug || 89 || 1 || 18 || 8 || 0 || 124 || 0 || 240
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|| [1246, 3406] || ClaySlug || 147 || 1 || 46 || 8 || 8 || 225 || 0 || 49 || 0 || 182 || 0 || 435 || 435
 
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|| [1246, 3407] || Footworm || 0 || 0 || 0 || 80 || 138 || 0 || 136 || 354
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|| [1246, 3406] || Footworm || 0 || 0 || 0 || 129 || 203 || 0 || 221 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 509 || 332 || 553
 
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|| [1246, 3407] || Glassworm || 177 || 215 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 109 || 54 || 555
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|| [1246, 3406] || Glassworm || 248 || 366 || 0 || 16 || 0 || 217 || 133 || 43 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 847 || 980
 
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|| [1246, 3407] || GoldenAsp || 11 || 48 || 0 || 126 || 144 || 8 || 0 || 337
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|| [1246, 3406] || GoldenAsp || 11 || 68 || 0 || 232 || 278 || 8 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 597 || 597
 
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|| [1246, 3407] || GrassSlug || 94 || 8 || 0 || 9 || 12 || 81 || 1 || 205
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|| [1246, 3407] || OysterMite || 95 || 0 || 160 || 112 || 0 || 0 || 49 || 416
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|| [1246, 3406] || OysterMite || 191 || 0 || 274 || 139 || 0 || 0 || 91 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 604 || 695
 
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|| [1246, 3407] || RoseSwallowTail || 0 || 117 || 0 || 0 || 143 || 44 || 231 || 535
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|| [1246, 3406] || RoseSwallowTail || 0 || 143 || 0 || 0 || 241 || 52 || 356 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 436 || 792
 
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|| [1246, 3407] || SaltMite || 0 || 8 || 152 || 106 || 0 || 68 || 0 || 334
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PLEASE NOTE: In the Akhet IV season you can also catch Queen Lionfish, but not with these lures. If you like, you can add Fruit Maggot lure between 10PM-2AM, which is Queen Lionfish fishing time to get it (also to improve debenage).
  
  

Revision as of 12:09, 23 July 2016

Hanjo's Fishing Diary

UPDATES (Thursday, July 21st - Skinlicker is not working at all on my Location 1 or Location 2)

UPDATE - to avoid confusion, most time values here are GAME time, and expressed in GAME hours (around 20 real minutes). The only exception is rotting that takes around 2 real hours.


QuickStart information (for Green Valley Falls guild)

1) Learn Fly Fishing skill (ask me for mats if you don't have them)

2) Get a "Common Fishing Lure set" from the lures chest (Clay Slug, Footworm, Fruit Maggot, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Ringed Wasp, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite, Skinlicker, Spittlebug)

UPDATE (for GVF) use these 8 for Location 1: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite


Lures chest are kept in the "bugs" building, 1253,3401 - Eastern small chest. All the lures are petrified. RETURN lures after use, thank you.

3) Start fishing at Location 1 (1246, 3406), you can use Automato fishing script. Casts per lure can be 4 (still investigating if this has any effect)

4) Make sure to fillet (using kitchen) - Carp, Catfish, Chromis, Tigerfish, Oxyrynchus, Bay Lobster, Spoonfish, Hylian Loach, Singing Lamprey. Also, keep Fish Oil (a side effect of filleting).

5) The rest of the fish just put into one of the warehouses, and then fillet after more than 2+ real life hours for ROTTEN fish.

Fish meat take to River Plains Caffe, Styx is using it to make DEX food. Guilds/River_Plains_Cafe

Rotten fish take to RP TECH WH (1575, 2874) very close to the RP CS (Ariella is using it for fertilizer, developing Cross Breeding across Egypt).

Fish scales throw away, or just put into Scales WH in the Kitchen.

6) Don't bother doing Fly Tying and Filleting, we have plenty of petrified lures. If you need more, we can place an order (see below for more detail). For filleting, just use the kitchen at all times (also see below).

7) Getting a level takes SUPER long, so be patient.


If you are not Guilds/GreenValleyFalls member, consider joining, we are lots of fun. If not, you can get petrified lures by placing an order to Porthos. He only asks for materials (big thanks Porthos!). These will last you a very long time.

This is materials you need to provide to Porthos to get "Common Fish Starter kit" that will get you 12 petrified lures.

12 Insects:

Clay Slug, Footworm, Fruit Maggot, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Ringed Wasp, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite, Skinlicker, Spittlebug

24 Thread

84 Salt

12 Thorn

24 Raw Silk


...or just do your own calculation - Fishing_Lure.


You should also join Guilds/Fishing Cove guild if you more serious about fishing.

Fishing Quadrants

Based on the info from Porthos, there is a fishing grid made by 128x64 quadrants, each 128x128 coordinates in size across Egpyt. Each quadrant has different fish distribution.

Starting point is coordinates 0,0, and we assume that Quadrant 1x1 spans from 0,0 to 128,128. Quadrant -1x-1 spans from -128,-128 to 0,0. Any body of water within a quadrant should have the same fishing pattern.

You can use Excel formula =ROUNDUP(A1/128,0) where coordinate would be in A1 cell, to calculate what is the Quadrant number where you are fishing. I will use both coordinates, and also quadrant value for my Fishing Diary.


Location 1 Coordinates: [1245, 3406] Quadrant: 10x27

Lures used: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite


location day time Abdju Carp Catfish Chromis Perch Phagrus Tilapia Hylian Loach Octopus Oxyrynchus Tilefish Total Total Common
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-17 12:00AM 34 35 29 44 40 47 37 0 0 0 92 358 266
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-20 01:00AM 26 22 27 8 36 27 37 0 0 0 61 244 183
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-20 02:00AM 34 22 25 36 34 49 47 0 0 0 62 309 247
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-20 03:00AM 37 31 26 39 42 26 55 0 0 0 85 341 256
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-20 04:00AM 24 20 29 42 29 36 30 0 0 0 62 272 210
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-17 05:00AM 43 39 37 50 44 47 40 0 0 0 0 300 300
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-17 06:00AM 25 27 29 25 37 16 42 0 0 0 0 201 201
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-17 07:00AM 48 41 27 58 44 46 42 0 0 0 0 306 306
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-17 08:00AM 32 37 26 36 39 30 40 36 0 0 0 276 240
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-17 09:00AM 41 29 33 27 31 39 31 56 0 0 0 287 231
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-15 03:00PM 29 47 39 31 35 34 38 0 0 0 0 253 253
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-15 04:00PM 36 27 20 47 38 34 24 0 0 0 0 226 226
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-15 05:00PM 52 28 29 36 37 37 49 0 0 0 0 268 268
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-15 06:00PM 24 39 25 37 36 36 26 0 17 0 0 240 223
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-19 07:00PM 45 21 43 35 42 49 44 0 0 0 0 279 279
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-19 08:00PM 44 21 25 34 32 28 44 0 0 37 0 265 228
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-19 09:00PM 29 29 39 43 43 43 45 0 0 52 44 367 271
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-15 10:00PM 52 19 18 22 35 34 33 0 0 57 91 361 213
[1246, 3406] Akhet IV-16 11:00PM 50 29 18 28 21 34 58 0 0 36 88 362 238

Same data by lures

location lure type Abdju Carp Catfish Chromis Perch Phagrus Tilapia Hylian Loach Octopus Oxyrynchus Tilefish Total Total Common
[1246, 3406] ClaySlug 147 1 46 8 8 225 0 49 0 182 0 435 435
[1246, 3406] Footworm 0 0 0 129 203 0 221 0 0 0 509 332 553
[1246, 3406] Glassworm 248 366 0 16 0 217 133 43 0 0 0 847 980
[1246, 3406] GoldenAsp 11 68 0 232 278 8 0 0 0 0 0 597 597
[1246, 3406] GrassSlug 129 8 0 18 12 122 2 0 17 0 0 289 291
[1246, 3406] OysterMite 191 0 274 139 0 0 91 0 0 0 0 604 695
[1246, 3406] RoseSwallowTail 0 143 0 0 241 52 356 0 0 0 0 436 792
[1246, 3406] SaltMite 8 8 252 173 0 92 0 0 0 0 76 533 533

PLEASE NOTE: In the Akhet IV season you can also catch Queen Lionfish, but not with these lures. If you like, you can add Fruit Maggot lure between 10PM-2AM, which is Queen Lionfish fishing time to get it (also to improve debenage).


Uncommon fish

Location 1 (1246, 3406)

Amur Pike - NOT on location

Bottlenose Squid - DON'T have the lures

Flying Fish - NOT caught (SPD >22)

Great Knucklefish - NOT on location

Orange Spoonfish - NOT on location

Ribbonfish - NOT on location

Yellowfin Snapper - NOT on location


Horned Pigfish - YES, with SPD 9 (wiki says SPD>22!)

Hylian Loach - YES, BIG quantities

Octopus - YES, in small quantities

Oxyrynchus - YES, solid

Queen Lionfish - YES, solid

Tilefish - YES, BIG quantities

More info on my Uncommon fish catches under Fishing/Trials


Further notes down here (not very organized)

Trying fishing for the first time, here is my observations.

I am trying two fishing grounds Location 1 (1246, 3406) and Location 2 (1422, 3434).

Joint theories Roe fish comes from filleting uncommon fish right after catching, currently it's Akhet IV, and it is Tilefish. You can find ROE periods in the fishing infographics.

Fishing_Infographic

Common fish distribution per lure Fishing/Common_Fish


Make sure to fillet in the kitchen. Fish filleting lvl 7 is equal to filleting in a kitchen. You lose around 10-20% of the meat per deben. In the kitchen it is 1:1 meat for deben of fish.

Make sure to fillet fairly shortly after catch, otherwise also losing meat for deben ration.

You need speed to catch uncommon fish more often - eat speed food. GVF - eat Eimear's cheap food.


COMMON FISH LURE SET This is a set of Common Fish lures, I found it on Porthos home page.


Clay Slug

Footworm

Fruit Maggot

Glass Worm

Golden Asp

Grass Slug

Oyster Mite

Ringed Wasp

Rose Swallowtail

Salt Mite

Skinlicker

Spittlebug



Location 1 (1246, 3406)

Right next to GVF kitchen, good for "immediate filleting".

Location 2 (1422, 3434)

Northernmost small island right across GVF entrance, right below aqueduct pump




Theory (WRONG) - daily fishing is divided in three game hour blocks (per location) I experienced 3 game hour dry spell from EXACTLY 6:00AM to 9:00AM - NO lure worked in this period. (in Location 1 (1422, 3434)). I think that each location has a certain set of lures/fish that work within a 3 game hour block, then this set changes and some other lures work for the next three game hours.

I cannot seem to find further evidence, also I got back to working at this period.


Theory (WRONG) - there are lures that NEVER work in a certain location It seems that most lures will work at least once, but some lures are REALLY BAD for certain locations.

Theory (WRONG) - CROWD is influencing fishing. Nope...fishing has nothing to do with crowdedness.

Theory (unconfirmed) - pollution and fishing? Not tested the pollution.

There is a clear average of around 200db of common fish per game hour (aprox 20 real minutes)!

I am now treating table below as test data, I have much better info above. If anyone needs this for research.

I was using 11 lures over 1 hour (game time) periods for testing on two locations. I only included common fish, as uncommon seems to have it's own statistical range independent of common fish.

It seems that Skinlicker was useless (fishing 0 on both locations).

Lures used: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Ringed Wasp, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite, Skinlicker, Spittlebug

location time Abdju Carp Catfish Chromis Perch Phagrus Tilapia
[1245, 3406] 05:38-06:37AM 41 29 18 27 47 20 33
[1421, 3435] 07:24-08:23AM 36 21 35 29 21 35 22
[1245, 3406] 09:02-10:01AM 29 31 26 28 29 32 37
[1421, 3435] 10:34-11:33AM 42 30 20 40 40 23 31
[1245, 3406] 11:50AM-12:49PM 19 32 18 24 22 37 21
[1421, 3435] 02:45-03:44PM 36 19 17 28 29 27 34
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