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Welcome! Our goal is to build a megalopolis in River Plains, for the [http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Test_of_the_Megalopolis Test of the Megalopolis].<br><br>
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Welcome! We built a megalopolis in River Plains, for the [http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Test_of_the_Megalopolis Test of the Megalopolis].
  
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Membership is limited to 49, but while there is space, it is open to anyone who wants to participate.<br><br>
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Our guild hall and storage is located at: 1576, 2808. The center of the Main Structure is at 1553,2794.
  
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Our guild hall and storage is located at: 1576, 2808.<br>
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== Zap Party! ==
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The center of the Main Structure will be located at #,#.
 
  
 +
Our zap party was on Saturday March 26th. Congratulations to all!
 +
 +
 +
pictures go here
 +
 +
== Build List ==
 
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{| border="1" class="wikitable sortable"
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!! Member # !!Player  !!Built  !!availability to build this week
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!#!!Player  !!Built   
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 1 || Rhaom ||  NO  ||
+
| 1 ||McArine|| Central structure  
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 2 || greedy ||  NO ||
+
| 2 || Anien || Gate   
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 3 || abar || NO ||
+
| 3 || Sissue || Bridge
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 4 || Yendor || NO  ||
+
| 4 || Neena || Wall
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 5 || Ion || NO  ||
+
| 5 ||Rosie || Edge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 6 || queenisis || NO  ||  
+
| 6 ||Gleeb || Edge   
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 7 || YendorsSlave || NO  ||
+
| 7 ||BlueGrass ||Side Wall   
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 8 || SubiraDaktar || NO  ||
+
| 8 ||Bessieloo || Gate   
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 9 || Lukeera||  NO  ||
+
| 9 || Opus || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 10 || Beza||  NO  ||
+
| 10 ||Challen || Side Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 11 || Lili|| NO ||
+
| 11 ||Dawner || Side Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 12 || Glory || NO ||
+
| 12 ||melia || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 13 || Lindie || NO ||
+
| 13 ||Aubery || Ramp 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 14 || Robby || NO ||
+
| 14 || queenisis || Edge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 15 || Misterone || NO ||
+
| 15 ||YendorsSlave || Side Wall   
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 16 || Kamen || NO ||
+
| 16 || Vital77 || Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 17 || Tempos || NO ||
+
| 17 ||merek || Ramp 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 18 || Tunnen || NO ||
+
| 18 ||Styx || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 19 || Bessieloo || NO ||
+
| 19 ||Ninfa || Side Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 20 || Kojo || NO ||
+
| 20 ||Endie || Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 21 || Lizbet || NO ||
+
| 21 || Dagny || Edge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 22 || -- || NO ||
+
| 22 || Kk || Side Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 23 || -- || NO ||
+
| 23 || Talos || Side Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 24 || -- || NO ||
+
| 24 ||Orchid || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 25 || -- || NO ||
+
| 25 ||Khephren || Edge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 26 || -- || NO ||
+
| 26 ||Ion || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 27 || -- || NO ||
+
| 27 ||Tedra  || Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 28 || -- || NO ||
+
| 28 ||Nephereh || Edge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 29 || -- || NO ||
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| 29 || abar || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 30 || -- || NO ||
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| 30 ||Tjutenkamen  || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 31 || -- || NO ||
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| 31 || Bigfootep  || Gate 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 32 || -- || NO ||
+
| 32 || greedy || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 33 || -- || NO ||
+
| 33 || Subira || Ramp 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 34 || -- || NO ||
+
| 34 || KebiRoz || Edge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 35 || -- || NO ||
+
| 35 ||Pixels || Edge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 36 || -- || NO ||
+
| 36 ||DonQuiHotep  || Bridge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 37 || -- || NO ||
+
| 37 || Min  || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 38 || -- || NO ||
+
| 38 || Shemei || Bridge 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 39 || -- || NO ||
+
| 39 || ThePheonix || Ramp 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 40 || -- || NO ||
+
| 40 ||Rey  || Side Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 41 || -- || NO ||
+
| 41 ||Daxier  || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 42 || -- || NO ||
+
| 42 || blondie ||Tower   
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 43 || -- || NO ||
+
| 43 ||Bobbi  || Tower 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 44 || -- || NO ||
+
| 44 || Nanolbaid || Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 45 || -- || NO ||
+
| 45 || MonaLisa || Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 46 || -- || NO ||
+
| 46 || Obol || Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 47 || -- || NO ||
+
| 47 || Rebecca || Wall 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 48 || -- || NO ||
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| 48 || SubiraDaktar  || Gate 
 
|-
 
|-
−
| 49 || -- || NO ||
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| 49 ||Jazkar  || Bridge
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
== Materials Summary ==
 
== Materials Summary ==
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This list of materials is '''approximate'''!! The actual costs vary, from 25% to 400%!! Our goals listed are 150% of the estimated.
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McArine has agreed to build our central structure. Materials used:
 +
(We donated about 7 warehouses worth of extra materials to [[Guilds/HHOF | HHOF]])
  
 
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     {{ResResource|Canvas|151|151}}
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     {{ResResource|Cut Stone|50|22784}}
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     {{ResResource|Cut Stone|14760|14760}}
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     {{ResResource|Gold Bar|0|200}}  
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     {{ResResource|Gold Bar|64|64}}  
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     {{ResResource|Gold Foil|0|1200}}  
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     {{ResResource|Gold Foil|1200|1200}}  
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     {{ResResource|Gold Wire|0|1920}}  
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     {{ResResource|Gold Wire|840|840}}  
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     {{ResResource|Iron Bar|0|1296}}
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     {{ResResource|Iron Bar|416|416}}
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     {{ResResource|Nails|0|13532}}  
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     {{ResResource|Nails|6532|6532}}  
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     {{ResResource|Silver Sheeting|0|200}}
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     {{ResResource|Silver Sheeting|64|64}}
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     {{ResResource|Rope|8|604}}
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     {{ResResource|Rope|604|604}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: hard, pliable|960|960}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: hard, rotproof|49000|49000}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: hard, rigid|0|3600}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: hard, rigid|14000|14000}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: hard, glossy, rotproof|0|5880}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: hard, glossy, rotproof|15120|15120}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: rigid, rotproof|0|2880}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: rigid, rotproof|1080|1080}}
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     {{ResResource|Boards: pliable, soft, rotproof|14000|14000}}
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     {{ResResource|Dark Goldenrod Paint|30|19620}}
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     {{ResResource|Dark Goldenrod Paint|18424|18424}}
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     {{ResResource|Feldspar Paint|0|2560}}
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     {{ResResource|Feldspar Paint|8000|8000}}
−
     {{ResResource|Forest Green Paint |0|13692}}   
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     {{ResResource|Forest Green Paint |29180|29180}}   
−
     {{ResResource|Indigo Paint|0|24320}}
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     {{ResResource|Indigo Paint|9200|9200}}
−
     {{ResResource|Orange Paint|0|14780}}
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     {{ResResource|Orange Paint|8120|8120}}
−
     {{ResResource|Saddle Brown Paint|0|5820}}
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     {{ResResource|Saddle Brown Paint |8260|8260}}
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     {{ResResource|Spring Green Paint|0|2100}}
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     {{ResResource|Spring Green Paint|1400|1400}}
−
     {{ResResource|Tomato Paint|0|1300}}
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     {{ResResource|Tomato Paint|1300|1300}}
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     {{ResResource|Eyelet Cut Amethyst|3|48}}
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     {{ResResource|Eyelet Cut Amethyst|48|48}}
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     {{ResResource|Corner Heart Cut Garnet|0|24}}
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     {{ResResource|Corner Heart Cut Garnet|24|24}}
−
     {{ResResource|Bridge Cut Lapis|0|12}}
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     {{ResResource|Bridge Cut Lapis|12|12}}
−
     {{ResResource|Sprocket Cut Sunstone|0|6}}
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     {{ResResource|Sprocket Cut Sunstone|6|6}}
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     {{ResResource|Hexas Plate Cut Lapis|0|8}}
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     {{ResResource|Hexas Plate Cut Lapis|20|20}}
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     {{ResResource|Choronzon Cut Turquoise|0|8}}
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     {{ResResource|Choronzon Cut Turquoise|20|20}}
−
     {{ResResource|Thistle Cut Amethyst|0|8}}
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     {{ResResource|Thistle Cut Amethyst|20|20}}
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     {{ResResource|Unity Cut Lapis|0|4}}
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     {{ResResource|Unity Cut Lapis|4|4}}
−
     {{ResResource|Full Aideen Mask Cut Sunstone|0|4}}
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     {{ResResource|Full Aideen Mask Cut Sunstone|4|4}}
−
     {{ResResource|Looking Glass Cut Jade|10|12}}   
+
     {{ResResource|Looking Glass Cut Jade|12|12}}   
 
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   }}
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=== Material Pledges ===
 
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! Player  || Pledges || stashed (y/n)
 
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|-
 
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| Greedy || Gold || processing in persephone furnace (N)
 
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|-
 
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| Greedy || Paint mats updated the total paint mats needed || Stashed in WH-18 (Y)
 
−
|-
 
−
| Greedy || Saddle Brown Paint mats || Stashed in WH-18 (Y)
 
−
|-
 
−
| Tunnen || 1860 Lead for paint || Ore Mined, Smelting now [ETA 16-NOV) (N)
 
−
|-
 
−
|Glory  || 20,000 Clay for paint ||  4,000/20,000 stashed in WH-18
 
−
|-
 
−
|Rhaom  || 10,000 Cabbage Juice for paint ||  4,000/10,000 stashed in WH-18
 
−
|-
 
−
|Greedy  || 4462 Boards ||  Stashed in GH
 
−
|-
 
−
|}
 
−
 
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The above table is used to help us coordinate and plan for the vast quantities of things we need. If you see someone pledged something you want to work on, feel free to chat them! They will probably love the help. (and we can always use extra of materials, since our goals are only estimates of the costs!!).
 
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:If you want to contribute a particular type of material, feel free to add it to the above table (or chat someone to add it for you).
 
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:Also, you can simply stash items that are not fully pledged in the WH's at the guild hall, and then please update the cost totals chart above.
 
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==Gem Cutters==
 
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The following players can cut the needed shapes, so be sure to help gather cuttables, and pass them to these folks:
 
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*
 
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*
 
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*
 
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*
 
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==Paint Coordination==
 
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We will all need to help gather materials for the paints. Please list your name and recipes for any paints you can make. Then we can choose the easiest/cheapest recipes, and gather materials for them.
 
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===Dark goldenrod===
 
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{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 
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! Player || Recipe for 10 paints || Mats for 32400
 
−
|-
 
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| QueenIsis || 4 Carrot, 1 Lead, 4 Clay, 1 Iron || 12960 Carrot, 3240 Lead, 12960 Clay, 3240 Iron
 
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|-
 
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| Yendor || 1 Saltpeter, 1 Sulfur, 1 Clay, 3 Carrot, 1 Cabbage, 5 RedSand || 3240 Saltpeter, 3240 Sulfur, 3240 Clay, 9720 Carrot, 3240 CabbageJuice, 16200 RedSand (Y)
 
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|-
 
−
| -- || -- || --
 
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|-
 
−
|}
 
−
 
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===Feldspar===
 
−
{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 
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! Player || Recipe for 10 paints  || mats for 9600 paint
 
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|-
 
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| QueenIsis || 9 Clay, 1 Iron, 1 Saltpeter, 1 Sulfur, 1 Potash || 8640 Clay, 960 Iron, 960 Saltpeter, 960 Sulfur, 960 Potash
 
−
|-
 
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| Yendor || 1 Cabbage, 6 RedSand, 1 Saltpeter, 2 Clay, 1 Sulfur, 1 Carrot  || 960 CabbageJuice, 5760 RedSand, 960 SaltPeter, 1920 Clay, 960 Sulfur, 960 Carrot (Y)
 
−
|-
 
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| Abar || 1 Cabbage, 8 Clay, 1 Lime, 1 Carrot || 960 Cabbage, 7680 Clay, 960 Lime, 960 Carrot
 
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|-
 
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|}
 
−
 
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===Forest Green===
 
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{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 
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! Player || Recipe for 10 paints || Done !
 
−
|-
 
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| Yendor || 5 Cabbage, 1 Carrot, 1 Saltpeter, 8 Clay, 1 Sulfur  || 1950 CabbageJuice, 390 Carrot, 3120 Clay, 390 Sulfur  (Y)
 
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|-
 
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| QueenIsis || 2 Clay, 1 Carrot, 7 Copper, 1 Lime || --
 
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|-
 
−
| -- || -- || --
 
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|-
 
−
|}
 
−
 
−
===Indigo===
 
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{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 
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! Player || Recipe for 10 paints || Mats needed for 27600
 
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|-
 
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| Yendor || 8 Cabbage, 1 RedSand, 1 Sulfur, 1 Clay  || 22080 CabbageJuice, 2760 RedSand, 2760 Sulfur, 2760 Clay (Y)
 
−
|-
 
−
| Abar || 7 Clay, 1 Lead, 1 Lime, 1 Red Sand, 1 Cabbage || 19320 Clay, 2760 Lead, 2760 Lime, 2760 Red Sand, 2760 Cabbage
 
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|-
 
−
| -- || -- || --
 
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|-
 
−
|}
 
−
 
−
===Orange===
 
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{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 
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! Player || Recipe for 10 paints || Mats for 18600
 
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|-
 
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| Yendor || 10 RedSand, 1 Lead, 1 Clay, 1 Saltpeter, 1 Sulfur  || 18600 RedSand, 1860 Lead, 1860 Clay, 1860 Saltpeter, 1860 Sulfur (Y)
 
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|-
 
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| Abar || 1 Lime, 9 Carrot, 1 Toad Skin, 1 Saltpeter || 1860 Lime, 16740 Carrot, 1860 Toad Skin, 1860 Saltpeter
 
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|-
 
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| -- || -- || --
 
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|-
 
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|}
 
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===Saddle Brown===
 
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{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 
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! Player || Recipe for 10 paints || Mats Stashed in WH 18
 
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|-
 
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| Yendor || 1 Cabbage, 1 Clay, 8 RedSand  || 390 CabbageJuice, 390 Clay, 3120 RedSand (Y)
 
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|-
 
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| QueenIsis || 9 Clay, 1 Carrot, 1 Lime, 1 Potash || --
 
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|-
 
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| Abar || 10 Clay || --
 
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|-
 
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|}
 
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===Spring Green===
 
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{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 
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! Player || Recipe for 10 paints ||
 
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|-
 
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| Yendor || 1 RedSand, 1 Potash, 4 Copper, 1 Lime, 1 Saltpeter, 5 Clay  || 390 RedSand, 390 Potash, 1560 Copper, 390 lime, 390 Saltpeter, 1950 Clay. [ouch]
 
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|-
 
−
| Abar || 1 Carrot, 1 Lead, 1 Iron, 1 Sulfur, 1 Lime, 7 Copper || -- (Y)
 
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|-
 
−
| -- || -- || --
 
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|-
 
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|}
 
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===Tomato===
 
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{| border="1" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"
 
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! Player || Recipe for 10 paints || Mats needed for 3900
 
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|-
 
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| Yendor || 5 RedSand, 1 Saltpeter, 5 Carrot  || 1950 Red Sand, 390 Saltpeter, 1950 Carrot (Y)
 
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|-
 
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| QueenIsis || 1 Cabbage, 6 Carrots, 3 Clay || 390 Cabbage, 2340 Carrots, 1170 Clay
 
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|-
 
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| Abar || 1 Cabbage, 7 Carrot, 2 Clay || 390 Cabbage, 2730 Carrot, 780 Clay
 
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|}
 
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===Total paint mats===
 
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Total paint mats so far based on cheapest recipe
 
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==Members==
 
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*Rhaom
 
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*greedy
 
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*abar
 
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*Yendor
 
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*Ion
 
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*queenisis
 
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*YendorsSlave
 
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*SubiraDaktar
 
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*Lukeera
 
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*Beza
 
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*Lili
 
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*MisterOne
 
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*Glory
 

Latest revision as of 17:16, 26 March 2016

Welcome! We built a megalopolis in River Plains, for the Test of the Megalopolis.

Our guild hall and storage is located at: 1576, 2808. The center of the Main Structure is at 1553,2794.

Zap Party!

Our zap party was on Saturday March 26th. Congratulations to all! 


pictures go here

Build List

# Player Built
1 McArine Central structure
2 Anien Gate
3 Sissue Bridge
4 Neena Wall
5 Rosie Edge
6 Gleeb Edge
7 BlueGrass Side Wall
8 Bessieloo Gate
9 Opus Tower
10 Challen Side Wall
11 Dawner Side Wall
12 melia Tower
13 Aubery Ramp
14 queenisis Edge
15 YendorsSlave Side Wall
16 Vital77 Wall
17 merek Ramp
18 Styx Tower
19 Ninfa Side Wall
20 Endie Wall
21 Dagny Edge
22 Kk Side Wall
23 Talos Side Wall
24 Orchid Tower
25 Khephren Edge
26 Ion Tower
27 Tedra Wall
28 Nephereh Edge
29 abar Tower
30 Tjutenkamen Tower
31 Bigfootep Gate
32 greedy Tower
33 Subira Ramp
34 KebiRoz Edge
35 Pixels Edge
36 DonQuiHotep Bridge
37 Min Tower
38 Shemei Bridge
39 ThePheonix Ramp
40 Rey Side Wall
41 Daxier Tower
42 blondie Tower
43 Bobbi Tower
44 Nanolbaid Wall
45 MonaLisa Wall
46 Obol Wall
47 Rebecca Wall
48 SubiraDaktar Gate
49 Jazkar Bridge

Materials Summary

McArine has agreed to build our central structure. Materials used: (We donated about 7 warehouses worth of extra materials to HHOF)

block
Boards
1800
 /
1800
(0)
100%
Brass Plate
4
 /
4
(0)
100%
Bricks
88000
 /
88000
(0)
100%
Canvas
151
 /
151
(0)
100%
Concrete/Gravel
20724
 /
20724
(0)
100%
Cut Stone
14760
 /
14760
(0)
100%
Gold Bar
64
 /
64
(0)
100%
Gold Foil
1200
 /
1200
(0)
100%
Gold Wire
840
 /
840
(0)
100%
Iron Bar
416
 /
416
(0)
100%
Nails
6532
 /
6532
(0)
100%
Silver Sheeting
64
 /
64
(0)
100%
Rope
604
 /
604
(0)
100%
Boards: hard, pliable
960
 /
960
(0)
100%
Boards: hard, rotproof
49000
 /
49000
(0)
100%
Boards: hard, rigid
14000
 /
14000
(0)
100%
Boards: hard, glossy, rotproof
15120
 /
15120
(0)
100%
Boards: white, glossy, fireproof
1920
 /
1920
(0)
100%
Boards: rigid, rotproof
1080
 /
1080
(0)
100%
Boards: pliable, soft, rotproof
14000
 /
14000
(0)
100%
Dark Goldenrod Paint
18424
 /
18424
(0)
100%
Feldspar Paint
8000
 /
8000
(0)
100%
Forest Green Paint
29180
 /
29180
(0)
100%
Indigo Paint
9200
 /
9200
(0)
100%
Orange Paint
8120
 /
8120
(0)
100%
Saddle Brown Paint
8260
 /
8260
(0)
100%
Spring Green Paint
1400
 /
1400
(0)
100%
Tomato Paint
1300
 /
1300
(0)
100%
Eyelet Cut Amethyst
48
 /
48
(0)
100%
Corner Heart Cut Garnet
24
 /
24
(0)
100%
Bridge Cut Lapis
12
 /
12
(0)
100%
Sprocket Cut Sunstone
6
 /
6
(0)
100%
Hexas Plate Cut Lapis
20
 /
20
(0)
100%
Choronzon Cut Turquoise
20
 /
20
(0)
100%
Thistle Cut Amethyst
20
 /
20
(0)
100%
Unity Cut Lapis
4
 /
4
(0)
100%
Full Aideen Mask Cut Sunstone
4
 /
4
(0)
100%
Looking Glass Cut Jade
12
 /
12
(0)
100%
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