User:Hanjo/Fishing

Hanjo's Fishing Diary

UPDATES (Thursday, July 21st - Skinlicker is not working at all on my Location 1 or Location 2)

UPDATE - to avoid confusion, most time values here are GAME time, and expressed in GAME hours (around 20 real minutes). The only exception is rotting that takes around 2 real hours.

QuickStart information (for Green Valley Falls guild)

1) Learn Fly Fishing skill (ask me for mats if you don't have them)

2) Get a "Common Fishing Lure set" from the lures chest (Clay Slug, Footworm, Fruit Maggot, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Ringed Wasp, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite, Skinlicker, Spittlebug)

UPDATE (for GVF) use these 8 for Location 1: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite

Lures chest are kept in the "bugs" building, 1253,3401 - Eastern small chest. All the lures are petrified. RETURN lures after use, thank you.

3) Start fishing at Location 1 (1246, 3406), you can use Automato fishing script. Casts per lure can be 4 (still investigating if this has any effect)

4) Make sure to fillet (using kitchen) - Carp, Catfish, Chromis, Tigerfish, Oxyrynchus, Bay Lobster, Spoonfish, Hylian Loach, Singing Lamprey. Also, keep Fish Oil (a side effect of filleting).

5) The rest of the fish just put into one of the warehouses, and then fillet after more than 2+ real life hours for ROTTEN fish.

Fish meat take to River Plains Caffe, Styx is using it to make DEX food. Guilds/River_Plains_Cafe

Rotten fish take to RP TECH WH (1575, 2874) very close to the RP CS (Ariella is using it for fertilizer, developing Cross Breeding across Egypt).

Fish scales throw away, or just put into Scales WH in the Kitchen.

6) Don't bother doing Fly Tying and Filleting, we have plenty of petrified lures. If you need more, we can place an order (see below for more detail). For filleting, just use the kitchen at all times (also see below).

7) Getting a level takes SUPER long, so be patient.

If you are not Guilds/GreenValleyFalls member, consider joining, we are lots of fun. If not, you can get petrified lures by placing an order to Porthos. He only asks for materials (big thanks Porthos!). These will last you a very long time.

This is materials you need to provide to Porthos to get "Common Fish Starter kit" that will get you 12 petrified lures.

12 Insects:

Clay Slug, Footworm, Fruit Maggot, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Ringed Wasp, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite, Skinlicker, Spittlebug

24 Thread

84 Salt

12 Thorn

24 Raw Silk

...or just do your own calculation - Fishing_Lure.

You should also join Guilds/Fishing Cove guild if you more serious about fishing.

Fishing Quadrants

Based on the info from Porthos, there is a fishing grid made by 128x64 quadrants, each 128x128 coordinates in size across Egpyt. Each quadrant has different fish distribution.

Starting point is coordinates 0,0, and we assume that Quadrant 1x1 spans from 0,0 to 128,128. Quadrant -1x-1 spans from -128,-128 to 0,0. Any body of water within a quadrant should have the same fishing pattern.

You can use Excel formula =ROUNDUP(A1/128,0) where coordinate would be in A1 cell, to calculate what is the Quadrant number where you are fishing. I will use both coordinates, and also quadrant value for my Fishing Diary.

GVF Kitchen fishing spot

Coordinates: [1245, 3406]

Quadrant: 10x27

Lures used: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite

location	day	time	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	12:00AM	34	35	29	44	40	47	37	0	0	0	92	358	266
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	01:00AM	26	22	27	8	36	27	37	0	0	0	61	244	183
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	02:00AM	34	22	25	36	34	49	47	0	0	0	62	309	247
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	03:00AM	37	31	26	39	42	26	55	0	0	0	85	341	256
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	04:00AM	24	20	29	42	29	36	30	0	0	0	62	272	210
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	05:00AM	43	39	37	50	44	47	40	0	0	0	0	300	300
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	06:00AM	25	27	29	25	37	16	42	0	0	0	0	201	201
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	07:00AM	48	41	27	58	44	46	42	0	0	0	0	306	306
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	08:00AM	32	37	26	36	39	30	40	36	0	0	0	276	240
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	09:00AM	41	29	33	27	31	39	31	56	0	0	0	287	231
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	10:00AM	29	29	26	35	29	32	29	59	0	0	0	268	209
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	11:00AM	37	28	17	34	33	47	25	70	0	0	0	291	221
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	12:00PM	34	28	27	26	30	37	50	38	0	0	0	270	232
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	01:00PM	25	19	26	36	40	35	47	25	0	0	0	253	228
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	02:00PM	27	37	18	35	39	25	39	8	16	0	0	244	220
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	03:00PM	29	47	39	31	35	34	38	0	0	0	0	253	253
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	04:00PM	36	27	20	47	38	34	24	0	0	0	0	226	226
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	05:00PM	52	28	29	36	37	37	49	0	0	0	0	268	268
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	06:00PM	24	39	25	37	36	36	26	0	17	0	0	240	223
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-19	07:00PM	45	21	43	35	42	49	44	0	0	0	0	279	279
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-19	08:00PM	44	21	25	34	32	28	44	0	0	37	0	265	228
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-19	09:00PM	29	29	39	43	43	43	45	0	0	52	44	367	271
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	10:00PM	52	19	18	22	35	34	33	0	0	57	91	361	213
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-16	11:00PM	50	29	18	28	21	34	58	0	0	36	88	362	238

Same data by lures

location	lure type	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1246, 3406]	ClaySlug	147	1	46	8	8	225	0	49	0	182	0	666	435
[1246, 3406]	Footworm	0	0	0	129	203	0	221	0	0	0	509	1062	553
[1246, 3406]	Glassworm	248	366	0	16	0	217	133	43	0	0	0	1023	980
[1246, 3406]	GoldenAsp	11	68	0	232	278	8	0	0	0	0	0	597	597
[1246, 3406]	GrassSlug	129	8	0	18	12	122	2	0	17	0	0	308	291
[1246, 3406]	OysterMite	191	0	274	139	0	0	91	0	0	0	0	695	695
[1246, 3406]	RoseSwallowTail	0	143	0	0	241	52	356	0	0	0	0	792	792
[1246, 3406]	SaltMite	8	8	252	173	0	92	0	0	0	0	76	609	533

PLEASE NOTE: In the Akhet IV season you can also catch Queen Lionfish, but not with these lures. If you like, you can add Fruit Maggot lure between 10PM-2AM, which is Queen Lionfish fishing time to get it (also to improve debenage).

Uncommon fish

Location 1 (1246, 3406)

Amur Pike - NOT on location

Bottlenose Squid - DON'T have the lures

Flying Fish - NOT caught (SPD >22)

Great Knucklefish - NOT on location

Orange Spoonfish - NOT on location

Ribbonfish - NOT on location

Yellowfin Snapper - NOT on location

Horned Pigfish - YES, with SPD 9 (wiki says SPD>22!)

Hylian Loach - YES, BIG quantities

Octopus - YES, in small quantities

Oxyrynchus - YES, solid

Queen Lionfish - YES, solid

Tilefish - YES, BIG quantities

More info on my Uncommon fish catches under Fishing/Trials

Further notes down here (not very organized)

Trying fishing for the first time, here is my observations.

I am trying two fishing grounds Location 1 (1246, 3406) and Location 2 (1422, 3434).

Joint theories Roe fish comes from filleting uncommon fish right after catching, currently it's Akhet IV, and it is Tilefish. You can find ROE periods in the fishing infographics.

Fishing_Infographic

Common fish distribution per lure Fishing/Common_Fish

Make sure to fillet in the kitchen. Fish filleting lvl 7 is equal to filleting in a kitchen. You lose around 10-20% of the meat per deben. In the kitchen it is 1:1 meat for deben of fish.

Make sure to fillet fairly shortly after catch, otherwise also losing meat for deben ration.

You need speed to catch uncommon fish more often - eat speed food. GVF - eat Eimear's cheap food.

COMMON FISH LURE SET This is a set of Common Fish lures, I found it on Porthos home page.

Clay Slug

Footworm

Fruit Maggot

Glass Worm

Golden Asp

Grass Slug

Oyster Mite

Ringed Wasp

Rose Swallowtail

Salt Mite

Skinlicker

Spittlebug

Location 1 (1246, 3406)

Right next to GVF kitchen, good for "immediate filleting".

Location 2 (1422, 3434)

Northernmost small island right across GVF entrance, right below aqueduct pump

Theory (WRONG) - daily fishing is divided in three game hour blocks (per location) I experienced 3 game hour dry spell from EXACTLY 6:00AM to 9:00AM - NO lure worked in this period. (in Location 1 (1422, 3434)). I think that each location has a certain set of lures/fish that work within a 3 game hour block, then this set changes and some other lures work for the next three game hours.

I cannot seem to find further evidence, also I got back to working at this period.

Theory (WRONG) - there are lures that NEVER work in a certain location It seems that most lures will work at least once, but some lures are REALLY BAD for certain locations.

Theory (WRONG) - CROWD is influencing fishing. Nope...fishing has nothing to do with crowdedness.

Theory (unconfirmed) - pollution and fishing? Not tested the pollution.

There is a clear average of around 200db of common fish per game hour (aprox 20 real minutes)!

I am now treating table below as test data, I have much better info above. If anyone needs this for research.

I was using 11 lures over 1 hour (game time) periods for testing on two locations. I only included common fish, as uncommon seems to have it's own statistical range independent of common fish.

It seems that Skinlicker was useless (fishing 0 on both locations).

Lures used: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Ringed Wasp, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite, Skinlicker, Spittlebug

location	time	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia
[1245, 3406]	05:38-06:37AM	41	29	18	27	47	20	33
[1421, 3435]	07:24-08:23AM	36	21	35	29	21	35	22
[1245, 3406]	09:02-10:01AM	29	31	26	28	29	32	37
[1421, 3435]	10:34-11:33AM	42	30	20	40	40	23	31
[1245, 3406]	11:50AM-12:49PM	19	32	18	24	22	37	21
[1421, 3435]	02:45-03:44PM	36	19	17	28	29	27	34