User:Hanjo/Fishing

QuickStart information

SOME IMPORTANT NOTES: To avoid confusion, most time values here are GAME time, and expressed in GAME hours (around 20 real minutes). The only exception is rotting that takes around 2 real hours.

Most information was designed for Green Valley Falls guild members, but it can be used by anyone. Ping me in game if you need further help/info.

Hanjo's Fishing Diary

• Where do I begin?

Learn Fly Fishing skill. Make a Basic Fly Rod. (ask me for mats if you don't have them)

Get a "Common Fishing Lure set" from the lures chest (Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite). Lures chest are kept in the "bugs" building, 1253,3401 - Eastern small chest. All the lures are petrified. RETURN lures after use, thank you.

• What is the best place to fish?

Start fishing at any of the locations listed below, you can use Automato fishing script. Casts per lure can be default (4).

• What do I do with the fish?

You should fillet fish. If you do it right after you caught it, you will get fish meat. If you wait for 2+ real life hours, then you will get rotten fish after filleting.

Please note: the sooner you fillet the fish, more meat you get. Also, fillet it in the kitchen (see below).

• Which fish should I fillet, and which to rot?

Make sure to fillet (using kitchen) - Carp, Catfish, Chromis, Tigerfish, Oxyrynchus, Bay Lobster, Spoonfish, Hylian Loach, Singing Lamprey. Also, keep Fish Oil (a side effect of filleting).

The rest of the fish just put into one of the warehouses, and then fillet after more than 2+ real life hours for ROTTEN fish.

Fish scales throw away, or just put into Scales WH in the Kitchen. There is no known use for Fish Scales at the moment.

• I am trying to catch a specific fish, but...?

There are six common fish that can be caught in any general area (sizes may vary):

Fishing - Common Fish

There are also uncommon fish that can be only caught during certain periods of the year and certain times of day with certain lures. Here is the Infographic that best describes this:

Fishing Infographic

• What can I do with fish meat and rotten fish?

Fish meat take to River Plains Caffe, Styx is using it to make DEX food. Guilds/River_Plains_Cafe

Rotten fish take to RP TECH WH (1575, 2874) very close to the RP CS (Ariella is using it for fertilizer, developing Cross Breeding across Egypt).

Also, you can use fish meat for various skill improvements, and rotten fish for your own fertilization (flowers) projects.

• Should I get a Fly Tying and Filleting skills?

Don't bother doing Fly Tying and Filleting, we have plenty of petrified lures. If you need more, we can place an order (see below for more detail). For filleting, just use the kitchen at all times (also see below).

If you are not Guilds/GreenValleyFalls member, consider joining, we are lots of fun. If not, you can get petrified lures by placing an order to Porthos. He only asks for materials (big thanks Porthos!). These will last you a very long time. This is materials you need to provide to Porthos to get "Common Fish Starter kit" that will get you 12 petrified lures.

12 Insects:

Clay Slug, Footworm, Fruit Maggot, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Ringed Wasp, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite, Skinlicker, Spittlebug

24 Thread

84 Salt

12 Thorn

24 Raw Silk

...or just do your own calculation - Fishing_Lure.

For filleting, use your guild kitchen or any one of the public kitchens. You should also join Guilds/Fishing Cove guild if you more serious about fishing.

• Why didn't I get a level yet, and I am fishing for X hours/days?

Getting a level takes SUPER long, so be patient. It took me around a week of doing nothing but fishing to get from lvl 1 to lvl 2.

Fishing Quadrants

Based on the info from Porthos, there is a fishing grid made by 128x64 quadrants, each 128x128 coordinates in size across Egpyt. Each quadrant has different fish distribution.

Starting point is coordinates 0,0, and we assume that Quadrant 1x1 spans from 0,0 to 128,128. Quadrant -1x-1 spans from -128,-128 to 0,0. Any body of water within a quadrant should have the same fishing pattern.

You can use Excel formula =ROUNDUP(A1/128,0) where coordinate would be in A1 cell, to calculate what is the Quadrant number where you are fishing. I will use both coordinates, and also quadrant value for my Fishing Diary.

GVF Kitchen fishing spot

Coordinates: [1245, 3406]

Quadrant: 10x27

Lures used: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite

location	day	time	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	12:00AM	34	35	29	44	40	47	37	0	0	0	92	358	266
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	01:00AM	26	22	27	8	36	27	37	0	0	0	61	244	183
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	02:00AM	34	22	25	36	34	49	47	0	0	0	62	309	247
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	03:00AM	37	31	26	39	42	26	55	0	0	0	85	341	256
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	04:00AM	24	20	29	42	29	36	30	0	0	0	62	272	210
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	05:00AM	43	39	37	50	44	47	40	0	0	0	0	300	300
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	06:00AM	25	27	29	25	37	16	42	0	0	0	0	201	201
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	07:00AM	48	41	27	58	44	46	42	0	0	0	0	306	306
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	08:00AM	32	37	26	36	39	30	40	36	0	0	0	276	240
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	09:00AM	41	29	33	27	31	39	31	56	0	0	0	287	231
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	10:00AM	29	29	26	35	29	32	29	59	0	0	0	268	209
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	11:00AM	37	28	17	34	33	47	25	70	0	0	0	291	221
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	12:00PM	34	28	27	26	30	37	50	38	0	0	0	270	232
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	01:00PM	25	19	26	36	40	35	47	25	0	0	0	253	228
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-20	02:00PM	27	37	18	35	39	25	39	8	16	0	0	244	220
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	03:00PM	29	47	39	31	35	34	38	0	0	0	0	253	253
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	04:00PM	36	27	20	47	38	34	24	0	0	0	0	226	226
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	05:00PM	52	28	29	36	37	37	49	0	0	0	0	268	268
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	06:00PM	24	39	25	37	36	36	26	0	17	0	0	240	223
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-19	07:00PM	45	21	43	35	42	49	44	0	0	0	0	279	279
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-19	08:00PM	44	21	25	34	32	28	44	0	0	37	0	265	228
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-19	09:00PM	29	29	39	43	43	43	45	0	0	52	44	367	271
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-15	10:00PM	52	19	18	22	35	34	33	0	0	57	91	361	213
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-16	11:00PM	50	29	18	28	21	34	58	0	0	36	88	362	238

Control data comparing 06-08AM catch from above table with data three game weeks later

Basic observation suggests that the common fish distribution is purely random. There is no connection hour to hour comparison. One small observation is that an hour is comparable to the following hour (Akhet IV-17 06:00AM data is similar to Peret I-10 || 07:00AM, and Akhet IV-17 || 07:00AM to Peret I-10 || 08:00AM)

Also, for Peret I-10 I started the fishing around 5:15, so there is a "strong hour" (more fish caught 06AM), then a weak hour, then a strong hour again. It may be depending on the fish being depleted, then refreshed, then depleted again.

location	day	time	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1246, 3407]	Peret I-10	06:00AM	34	30	37	38	24	26	46	0	0	0	0	235	235
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	06:00AM	25	27	29	25	37	16	42	0	0	0	0	201	201
[1246, 3407]	Peret I-10	07:00AM	24	21	26	26	30	28	35	0	0	0	0	190	190
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	07:00AM	48	41	27	58	44	46	42	0	0	0	0	306	306
[1246, 3407]	Peret I-10	08:00AM	44	29	25	35	33	46	39	0	0	0	0	251	251
[1246, 3406]	Akhet IV-17	08:00AM	32	37	26	36	39	30	40	36	0	0	0	276	240

Same data by lures

location	lure type	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1246, 3406]	ClaySlug	163	0	46	8	0	292	0	101	0	182	0	792	509
[1246, 3406]	Footworm	0	0	0	163	277	0	287	0	0	0	509	1236	727
[1246, 3406]	Glassworm	259	383	0	8	0	230	146	191	0	0	0	1217	1026
[1246, 3406]	GoldenAsp	11	119	0	277	320	8	0	0	0	0	0	735	735
[1246, 3406]	GrassSlug	213	8	0	18	12	210	2	0	33	0	0	496	463
[1246, 3406]	OysterMite	203	0	336	189	0	0	91	0	0	0	0	819	819
[1246, 3406]	RoseSwallowTail	0	153	0	0	257	44	426	0	0	0	0	880	880
[1246, 3406]	SaltMite	8	40	276	181	0	84	0	0	0	0	76	665	589

PLEASE NOTE: In the Akhet IV season you can also catch Queen Lionfish, but not with these lures. If you like, you can add Fruit Maggot lure between 10PM-2AM, which is Queen Lionfish fishing time to get it (also to improve debenage).

Little pond at the GVF entrance

Coordinates: [1345, 3375]

Quadrant: 11x27

Lures used: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite

location	day	time	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	12:00AM	38	31	27	37	41	36	16	0	0	0	9	235	226
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	01:00AM	36	22	34	26	30	28	48	0	0	0	34	258	224
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-25	02:00AM	28	26	28	37	36	25	31	0	0	0	10	221	211
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-25	03:00AM	37	33	25	25	38	28	48	0	0	0	54	288	234
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	05:00AM	31	30	39	37	43	33	45	0	0	0	18	276	258
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	07:00AM	40	31	25	37	37	27	40	18	0	0	0	255	237
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	08:00AM	30	22	30	38	26	20	28	49	0	0	0	243	194
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	09:00AM	16	22	20	27	28	31	48	94	0	0	0	286	192
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	10:00AM	34	42	38	48	37	45	36	62	0	0	0	342	280
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	11:00AM	44	21	25	42	41	29	55	27	0	0	0	284	257
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	12:00PM	24	29	47	26	26	30	29	44	0	0	0	255	211
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-18	02:00PM	27	25	22	16	40	29	37	0	29	0	0	225	196
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-23	03:00PM	21	11	27	29	35	36	41	36	0	0	0	236	200
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-26	05:00PM	44	31	42	30	49	49	55	0	0	0	0	300	300
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-20	06:00PM	41	20	28	24	29	34	41	0	35	0	0	252	217
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-20	07:00PM	35	33	21	29	33	30	39	0	19	0	0	239	220
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-20	08:00PM	31	30	25	36	42	24	42	0	14	24	0	268	230
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-20	09:00PM	38	37	30	57	46	43	27	0	0	35	0	313	278
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-20	10:00PM	37	36	35	28	45	34	43	0	0	25	0	283	258
[1345, 3375]	Akhet IV-20	11:00PM	30	27	28	34	30	24	28	0	0	8	27	236	201

Same data by lures

location	lure type	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1345, 3375]	ClaySlug	123	0	37	0	18	218	0	173	0	92	0	661	396
[1345, 3375]	Footworm	0	0	0	123	245	0	284	0	11	0	152	815	652
[1345, 3375]	Glassworm	185	322	0	18	2	91	122	157	0	0	0	897	740
[1345, 3375]	GoldenAsp	2	101	0	183	261	8	0	0	0	0	0	555	555
[1345, 3375]	GrassSlug	132	0	0	0	1	151	0	0	86	0	0	370	284
[1345, 3375]	OysterMite	212	0	226	198	1	24	56	0	0	0	0	717	717
[1345, 3375]	RoseSwallowTail	0	136	0	0	204	26	315	0	0	0	0	681	681
[1345, 3375]	SaltMite	8	0	333	141	0	117	0	0	0	0	0	599	599

Nile Island south of the Aqua Pump

Coordinates: [1421, 3435]

Quadrant: 12x27

Lures used: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite

location	day	time	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	12:00AM	29	30	17	26	26	39	27	0	0	0	89	283	194
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	01:00AM	26	36	30	43	39	41	40	0	0	0	88	343	255
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	02:00AM	35	29	30	42	44	38	34	0	0	0	89	341	252
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	03:00AM	47	28	26	26	29	35	37	0	0	0	38	266	228
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	04:00AM	27	20	27	33	37	43	45	0	0	0	42	274	232
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	05:00AM	39	39	29	40	38	24	38	0	0	0	8	255	247
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	06:00AM	44	20	29	27	24	38	31	0	0	0	0	213	213
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	07:00AM	17	27	27	25	31	35	30	0	0	0	0	192	192
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	08:00AM	38	29	28	46	42	26	38	18	0	0	0	265	247
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	09:00AM	54	38	36	36	54	42	50	86	0	0	0	396	310
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	11:00AM	22	18	22	33	31	29	20	98	0	0	0	273	175
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	12:00PM	35	36	26	36	39	41	48	67	0	0	0	328	261
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	01:00PM	34	28	28	45	48	43	37	41	0	0	0	304	263
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-29	02:00PM	34	39	37	36	48	33	30	26	0	0	0	283	257
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-26	07:00PM	20	40	28	16	36	24	37	0	0	0	0	201	201
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-26	08:00PM	34	30	28	30	25	37	28	0	0	49	0	261	212
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-27	09:00PM	43	38	35	30	50	40	52	0	0	73	0	361	288
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-27	10:00PM	38	20	21	36	18	36	30	0	0	24	33	256	199
[1421, 3435]	Akhet IV-28	11:00PM	53	29	30	41	36	42	49	0	0	27	62	369	280

Same data by lures

location	lure type	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia	Hylian Loach	Octopus	Oxyrynchus	Tilefish	Total	Total Common
[1421, 3435]	ClaySlug	101	0	64	8	8	172	0	39	0	173	0	565	353
[1421, 3435]	Footworm	1	0	8	131	182	0	195	0	0	0	401	918	517
[1421, 3435]	Glassworm	200	312	0	26	0	140	114	278	0	0	0	1070	792
[1421, 3435]	GoldenAsp	0	79	0	152	313	0	0	0	0	0	0	544	544
[1421, 3435]	GrassSlug	234	17	0	33	0	248	0	0	0	0	0	532	532
[1421, 3435]	OysterMite	133	0	205	143	1	0	130	19	0	0	0	631	612
[1421, 3435]	RoseSwallowTail	0	142	0	0	191	17	262	0	0	0	0	612	612
[1421, 3435]	SaltMite	0	24	257	154	0	109	0	0	0	0	48	592	544

Uncommon fish

Peret I - distribution during the day(quick view)

GVF Kitchen fishing spot

Coordinates: [1245, 3406]

Quadrant: 10x27

Skill: SPD 9, FF2

Amur Pike - NOT on location

Bottlenose Squid - DON'T have the lures

Camelfish - YES with Bloodworm, MAX 13db, small quantities

Flying Fish - NOT caught (SPD >22)

Great Knucklefish - NOT on location

Horned Pigfish - YES, with WhiteSawfly, SPD 9 (wiki says SPD>22!), rare catch, MAX 11db

Hylian Loach - YES, with Clay Slug and Glassworm, BIG quantities, various lures

Medusafish - NOT on location

Octopus - YES, in small quantities

Orange Spoonfish - NOT on location

Oxyrynchus - YES, with Clay Slug, solid quantities

Queen Lionfish - YES, with Fruit Maggot, solid quantities

Rainbow Cod - YES, with Spittlebug, MAX 9db, small quantities

Ribbonfish - NOT on location

Tilefish - YES, with BIG quantities

Yellowfin Snapper - NOT on location

Little pond at the GVF entrance

Coordinates: [1345, 3375]

Quadrant: 11x27

Amur Pike - NOT on location

Flying Fish - NOT on location

Great Knucklefish - YES, with Fruit Maggot and Rose Swallowtail, not too much (sizes 10-11, can catch up to 40-50db per game hour)

Tilefish - YES, with Fruitmaggot, not too much in the terms of debenage.

More info on my Uncommon fish catches under Fishing/Trials

Further notes down here (not very organized)

Trying fishing for the first time, here is my observations.

I am trying two fishing grounds Location 1 (1246, 3406) and Location 2 (1422, 3434).

Joint theories Roe fish comes from filleting uncommon fish right after catching, currently it's Akhet IV, and it is Tilefish. You can find ROE periods in the fishing infographics.

Fishing_Infographic

Common fish distribution per lure Fishing/Common_Fish

Make sure to fillet in the kitchen. Fish filleting lvl 7 is equal to filleting in a kitchen. You lose around 10-20% of the meat per deben. In the kitchen it is 1:1 meat for deben of fish.

Make sure to fillet fairly shortly after catch, otherwise also losing meat for deben ration.

You need speed to catch uncommon fish more often - eat speed food. GVF - eat Eimear's cheap food.

COMMON FISH LURE SET This is a set of Common Fish lures, I found it on Porthos home page.

Clay Slug

Footworm

Fruit Maggot

Glass Worm

Golden Asp

Grass Slug

Oyster Mite

Ringed Wasp

Rose Swallowtail

Salt Mite

Skinlicker

Spittlebug

Location 1 (1246, 3406)

Right next to GVF kitchen, good for "immediate filleting".

Location 2 (1422, 3434)

Northernmost small island right across GVF entrance, right below aqueduct pump

Theory (WRONG) - daily fishing is divided in three game hour blocks (per location) I experienced 3 game hour dry spell from EXACTLY 6:00AM to 9:00AM - NO lure worked in this period. (in Location 1 (1422, 3434)). I think that each location has a certain set of lures/fish that work within a 3 game hour block, then this set changes and some other lures work for the next three game hours.

I cannot seem to find further evidence, also I got back to working at this period.

Theory (WRONG) - there are lures that NEVER work in a certain location It seems that most lures will work at least once, but some lures are REALLY BAD for certain locations.

Theory (WRONG) - CROWD is influencing fishing. Nope...fishing has nothing to do with crowdedness.

Theory (unconfirmed) - pollution and fishing? Not tested the pollution.

There is a clear average of around 200db of common fish per game hour (aprox 20 real minutes)!

I am now treating table below as test data, I have much better info above. If anyone needs this for research.

I was using 11 lures over 1 hour (game time) periods for testing on two locations. I only included common fish, as uncommon seems to have it's own statistical range independent of common fish.

It seems that Skinlicker was useless (fishing 0 on both locations).

Lures used: Clay Slug, Footworm, Glass Worm, Golden Asp, Grass Slug, Oyster Mite, Ringed Wasp, Rose Swallowtail, Salt Mite, Skinlicker, Spittlebug

location	time	Abdju	Carp	Catfish	Chromis	Perch	Phagrus	Tilapia
[1245, 3406]	05:38-06:37AM	41	29	18	27	47	20	33
[1421, 3435]	07:24-08:23AM	36	21	35	29	21	35	22
[1245, 3406]	09:02-10:01AM	29	31	26	28	29	32	37
[1421, 3435]	10:34-11:33AM	42	30	20	40	40	23	31
[1245, 3406]	11:50AM-12:49PM	19	32	18	24	22	37	21
[1421, 3435]	02:45-03:44PM	36	19	17	28	29	27	34