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User:Peacefulness/Peaceful Stuff
Overview
My current project is incense research. For many tales, the wiki has noted that adding Petals of Ra to incense can change its feeling, yet I have not found anything more than that. Time to poke at it and see what comes out! At this time, I am only researching the changes from Rose petals. It has been brought to my attention that petals can be harvested from all in-game flower types.
The feeling is affected by the flower petals added to the batch.
Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Feelings seen after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
I am testing with the University roses: GL=Goldenleaves, HB=Hatch's Bud, NB=Night Bloom, OS=Onion Skin, PA=Pantomime, PG=Pink Giant, RD=Red Dwarf, WG=White Giant, and if released, BH=Blood Heart, DB=Dawn's Blush, and HD=Heart of Darkness. SP=Starting Point.
Here is my raw data. There's now way too much data to make it worth posting here. Hoping to find patterns and create a better way to show them. So far, adding petals seems to change the quality and sometimes the feeling.
Possible patterns:
- I have seen some consistency in some of the feeling changes. I am working on a model that reflects these changes, perhaps a path or a circle to be traveled along.
- Some feeling changes are rapid, and in some tests the feeling has not changed at all. No test has gone beyond adding 20 petals of the same rose.
- The concept of starting points may be useful in predicting feeling changes.
The incense Starting Points table available through Maia's user page suggests multiple feeling types, which leads me to believe that at some point, somebody has done research on this. Her table lists starting points for: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful 1, Hopeful 2, Melancholious, Relaxed 1, Relaxed 2, Relaxed 3, Sorrowful 1, Sorrowful 2, and Vengeful. (During my testing, I have only seen the starting point of Relaxed 2 once.)
Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906
Results!
The following six feelings are not represented in the Starting Points table. They can only be created by adding flower petals to an incense. SP = Starting Point
Invigorating
Melancholious SP +1 Pantomime petal
Melancholious SP +1 Pink Giant petal
Melancholious SP +1 Night Bloom petal
Melancholious SP +2 White Giant petals
Joyous
Gentle SP +9 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals
Guilty SP +3 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals
Relaxed3 SP +5 Pantomime petals
Relaxed3 SP +5 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +3 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals
Sorrowful2 SP +5 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals
Mischievious
Melancholious SP +2 Pantomime Petals
Melancholious SP +2 Pink Giant Petals
Melancholious SP +2 Night Bloom Petals
Serene
Can be made from all tested starting points
Gentle SP +5 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals
Giddy SP +3 Pantomime Petals
Guilty SP +4 Goldenleaves Petals
Guilty SP +8 Night Bloom Petals
Guilty SP +9 Pantomime Petals
Hopeful1 SP +8 Pink Giant Petals
Hopeful2 SP +16 Pink Giant Petals
Melancholious SP +14 Night Bloom Petals
Relaxed1 SP +2 Onion Skin Petals
Relaxed1 SP +4 Hatch's Bud Petals
Relaxed1 SP +3 Pantomime Petals
Relaxed1 SP +6 White Giant Petals
Relaxed2 SP +3 Pantomime Petals, Q peaks at +7
Relaxed3 SP +3 Goldenleaves Petals
Relaxed3 SP +3 Onion Skin Petals
Relaxed3 SP +8 Pantomime Petals
Relaxed3 SP +6 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +8 Pantomime Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +6 Night Bloom Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +4 Goldenleaves Petals
Sorrowful2 SP +12 Pink Giant Petals
Vengeful SP +4 Pink Giant Petals
Sorrowful2 SP +2 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals (+3 for higher Q)
Suspicious
Melancholious SP +4 Hatch's Bud SP
Melancholious SP + 3 Red Dwarf Petals
Troubled
Gentle SP +4 Pink Giant Petals
Guilty SP + 7 Hatch's Bud Petals
Guilty SP +5 Red Dwarf Petals
Melancholious SP +9 White Giant Petals
Relaxed3 SP +5 Red Dwarf Petals
Relaxed3 SP +7 Hatch's Bud Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +5 Hatch's Bud Petals
Sorrowful1 SP +4 Red Dwarf Petals
Researched Starting Points: Roses of Ra
The following combinations of starting points and flower petals have been researched. On a few occasions, I have researched the same combination twice, and found the same results were produced. I have not kept data on the optimal quality points, only the feelings produced.
Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Additional feelings seen only after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
Hopeful2 + NB: SP-20 Hopeful
Relaxed1 + OS: SP-1 Relaxed, 2 Serene, 3-20 Vengeful
Relaxed1 + WG: SP-5 Relaxed, 6-8 Serene, 9-15 Vengeful, 16-20 Giddy
Relaxed2 + PA: SP-2 Relaxed, 3-20 Serene (max Q @ 7)
Relaxed3 + PG: SP-20 Relaxed
Sorrowful2 + GL: SP Sorrowful, 1-11 Vengeful, 12-20 Hopeful
Sorrowful2 + OS: SP Sorrowful, 1-20 Giddy
Vengeful + WG: SP-20 Vengeful
Vengeful + PG: SP-3 Vengeful, 4-20 Serene
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Gentle SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.
- Troubled: add 4 PG.
- Serene: add 5 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals.
- Joyous: add 9 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals.
Sorrowful1 SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.
- Serene: add 8 PA or 6 NB or 4 GL.
- Troubled: add 5 HB or 4 RD.
- Joyous: add 3 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals
Guilty SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.
- Serene: add 4 GL or 8 NB or 9 PA
- Troubled: add 5 RD or 7 HB
Researched Starting Points: Orchids
Gentle + SL: SP Gentle, 1-2 Giddy, 3 Sorrowful, 4 Relaxed, 5-8 Serene, 9-20 Joyous.
Gentle + ST: SP Gentle, 1-20 Giddy
Guilty + SL: SP Guilty, 1-2 Relaxed, 3-20 Joyous
Sorrowful1 + ST: SP-6 Sorrowful, 7-20 Giddy
Sorrowful1 + SL: SP Sorrowful, 1-2 Relaxed, 3-20 Joyous
Sorrowful2 + SL: SP Sorrowful, 1 Relaxed, 2-4 Serene (max serene Q at petal #3), 5-20 Joyous (max joyous Q at petal #5)
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Researched Starting Points: Lilies of the Sea
Guilty + SI: SP-1 Guilty, 2-7 Sorrowful, 8-15 Troubled, 16-20 Gentle
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