User:Peacefulness/Peaceful Stuff

Overview

My current project is incense research. For many tales, the wiki has noted that adding Petals of Ra to incense can change its feeling, yet I have not found anything more than that. Time to poke at it and see what comes out! At this time, I am only researching the changes from Rose petals. It has been brought to my attention that petals can be harvested from all in-game flower types.

The feeling is affected by the flower petals added to the batch.
Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Feelings seen after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.
I am testing with the University roses: GL=Goldenleaves, HB=Hatch's Bud, NB=Night Bloom, OS=Onion Skin, PA=Pantomime, PG=Pink Giant, RD=Red Dwarf, WG=White Giant, and if released, BH=Blood Heart, DB=Dawn's Blush, and HD=Heart of Darkness. SP=Starting Point.

Here is my raw data. There's now way too much data to make it worth posting here. Hoping to find patterns and create a better way to show them. So far, adding petals seems to change the quality and sometimes the feeling.

Possible patterns:

• I have seen some consistency in some of the feeling changes. I am working on a model that reflects these changes, perhaps a path or a circle to be traveled along.
• Some feeling changes are rapid, and in some tests the feeling has not changed at all. No test has gone beyond adding 20 petals of the same rose.
• The concept of starting points may be useful in predicting feeling changes.

The incense Starting Points table available through Maia's user page suggests multiple feeling types, which leads me to believe that at some point, somebody has done research on this. Her table lists starting points for: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful 1, Hopeful 2, Melancholious, Relaxed 1, Relaxed 2, Relaxed 3, Sorrowful 1, Sorrowful 2, and Vengeful. (During my testing, I have yet to see the starting point of Relaxed 2)

Data below has been placed on a Google Sheet, arranged by starting point. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mWDHQ8S_nsslxLSS4COkY8InkdSaJcYibpmC7_43i4I/edit#gid=1452045906

Results!

The following six feelings are not represented in the Starting Points table. They can only be created by adding flower petals to an incense. SP = Starting Point

Invigorating

Melancholious SP +1 Pantomime petal

Melancholious SP +1 Pink Giant petal

Melancholious SP +1 Night Bloom petal

Melancholious SP +2 White Giant petals

Joyous

Gentle SP +9 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals

Guilty SP +3 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals

Relaxed3 SP +5 Pantomime petals

Relaxed3 SP +5 Night Bloom Petals

Sorrowful1 SP +3 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals

Sorrowful2 SP +5 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals

Mischievious

Melancholious SP +2 Pantomime Petals

Melancholious SP +2 Pink Giant Petals

Melancholious SP +2 Night Bloom Petals

Serene

Can be made from all tested starting points

Gentle SP +5 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals

Giddy SP +3 Pantomime Petals

Guilty SP +4 Goldenleaves Petals

Guilty SP +8 Night Bloom Petals

Guilty SP +9 Pantomime Petals

Hopeful1 SP +8 Pink Giant Petals

Hopeful2 SP +16 Pink Giant Petals

Melancholious SP +14 Night Bloom Petals

Relaxed1 SP +2 Onion Skin Petals

Relaxed1 SP +4 Hatch's Bud Petals

Relaxed1 SP +3 Pantomime Petals

Relaxed1 SP +6 White Giant Petals

Relaxed 3 SP +3 Goldenleaves Petals

Relaxed 3 SP +3 Onion Skin Petals

Relaxed3 SP +8 Pantomime Petals

Relaxed3 SP +6 Night Bloom Petals

Sorrowful1 SP +8 Pantomime Petals

Sorrowful1 SP +6 Night Bloom Petals

Sorrowful1 SP +4 Goldenleaves Petals

Sorrowful2 SP +12 Pink Giant Petals

Vengeful SP +4 Pink Giant Petals

Sorrowful2 SP +2 Serene Lagoon Orchid Petals (+3 for higher Q)

Suspicious

Melancholious SP +4 Hatch's Bud SP

Melancholious SP + 3 Red Dwarf Petals

Troubled

Gentle SP +4 Pink Giant Petals

Guilty SP + 7 Hatch's Bud Petals

Guilty SP +5 Red Dwarf Petals

Melancholious SP +9 White Giant Petals

Relaxed3 SP +5 Red Dwarf Petals

Relaxed3 SP +7 Hatch's Bud Petals

Sorrowful1 SP +5 Hatch's Bud Petals

Sorrowful1 SP +4 Red Dwarf Petals

Researched Starting Points: Roses of Ra

The following combinations of starting points and flower petals have been researched. On a few occasions, I have researched the same combination twice, and found the same results were produced. I have not kept data on the optimal quality points, only the feelings produced.

Starting point feelings, available without adding flower petals: Gentle, Giddy, Guilty, Hopeful, Melancholious, Relaxed, Sorrowful, Vengeful.
Additional feelings seen only after adding flower petals: Invigorating, Joyous, Mischievious, Serene, Suspicious, Troubled.

Hopeful2 + NB: SP-20 Hopeful
Relaxed1 + OS: SP-1 Relaxed, 2 Serene, 3-20 Vengeful
Relaxed1 + WG: SP-5 Relaxed, 6-8 Serene, 9-15 Vengeful, 16-20 Giddy
Relaxed3 + PG: SP-20 Relaxed
Sorrowful2 + GL: SP Sorrowful, 1-11 Vengeful, 12-20 Hopeful
Sorrowful2 + OS: SP Sorrowful, 1-20 Giddy
Vengeful + WG: SP-20 Vengeful
Vengeful + PG: SP-3 Vengeful, 4-20 Serene

Petals Tested ---> ----------------------- Starting Points	GL Golden- leaves	HB Hatch's Bud	NB Night Bloom	OS Onion Skin	PA Panto- mime	PG Pink Giant	RD Red Dwarf	WG White Giant
Gentle
Giddy
Guilty
Hopeful 1
Hopeful 2
Melancholious
Relaxed 1
Relaxed 2
Relaxed 3
Sorrowful 1
Sorrowful 2
Vengeful

Gentle SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.

• Troubled: add 4 PG.
• Serene: add 5 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals.
• Joyous: add 9 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals.

Sorrowful1 SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.

• Serene: add 8 PA or 6 NB or 4 GL.
• Troubled: add 5 HB or 4 RD.
• Joyous: add 3 Serene Lagoon Orchid petals

Guilty SP: Fully tested for Rose petals.

• Serene: add 4 GL or 8 NB or 9 PA
• Troubled: add 5 RD or 7 HB

Researched Starting Points: Orchids

Gentle + SL: SP Gentle, 1-2 Giddy, 3 Sorrowful, 4 Relaxed, 5-8 Serene, 9-20 Joyous.
Gentle + ST: SP Gentle, 1-20 Giddy
Guilty + SL: SP Guilty, 1-2 Relaxed, 3-20 Joyous
Sorrowful1 + ST: SP-6 Sorrowful, 7-20 Giddy
Sorrowful1 + SL: SP Sorrowful, 1-2 Relaxed, 3-20 Joyous
Sorrowful2 + SL: SP Sorrowful, 1 Relaxed, 2-4 Serene (max serene Q at petal #3), 5-20 Joyous (max joyous Q at petal #5)

Petals Tested ---> ----------------------- Starting Points	Serene Lagoon	Sabre- tooth
Gentle
Giddy
Guilty
Hopeful 1
Hopeful 2
Melancholious
Relaxed 1
Relaxed 2
Relaxed 3
Sorrowful 1
Sorrowful 2
Vengeful

Researched Starting Points: Lilies of the Sea

Guilty + SI: SP-1 Guilty, 2-7 Sorrowful, 8-15 Troubled, 16-20 Gentle

Petals Tested ---> ----------------------- Starting Points	Blush	Clarity	Crimson	Crown	Dusk	Energy	Fracture	Morning	Silken	Vampire
Gentle
Giddy
Guilty
Hopeful 1
Hopeful 2
Melancholious
Relaxed 1
Relaxed 2
Relaxed 3
Sorrowful 1
Sorrowful 2
Vengeful