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+ | = Open Letter to Teppy = | ||
+ | |||
+ | This is a problem for every customer - UPDATE YOUR BILLING PAGES. | ||
+ | |||
+ | # Take off the PayByCash crap and put up PayPal information. | ||
+ | # Provide package-without-tshirt information on package pages. | ||
+ | # Make this information readily available offline (i.e. link from wiki under "Links") | ||
+ | # Have a "Place Billing Related GM Call" button on the billing tab. | ||
+ | # Work with PayPal to have a form with player name, subscription type, address, etc. for offline purchases -OR- | ||
+ | # Since the billing interface is online, it's ineffective(stupid) to present a credit card information box when an expired/quit account logs in. Instead, provide some kind of 'limbo' where they can submit billing calls or choose a subscription package. -OR- refer them to the form you created for (#5) | ||
+ | # There's a good reason T3's population dropped after 12 months. Sheep, fireworks, and cornerstones don't cut it for senior players. Add some incentive for repeat purchases, make an event out of the 6th/12th/18th/etc. month of the Tale by rolling out new packages. After the 6th month, make the T-Shirt optional just like the music CD. | ||
+ | # Add financial incentive to packages. They currently all boil down to $13.2/month - your consumer base is 20+ so can do the math, and many know basic economic principles (money today is worth more then money tomorrow). Figure out how much interest you save/can get if we pay you up front vs. monthly and pass that savings along! | ||
+ | |||
+ | If you don't believe me, ask! You have the unique advantage to be able to talk directly to your consumers. Most marketers would wet themselves for such a situation. | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Response == | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' Some suggestions are easily done and worthwhile (#1,#2,#4), some more effort than they are worth (#3,#5), and some are by my judgement not wise for us to do (#6,#8) <br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' Thanks for the thoughts and the email - some will be done. <br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' On subscription costs more generally - I like the notion of "pay what you want." But done in a way where by paying more you get bonuses that don't affect gameplay. <br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' The multi-month packages are a step in that direction... <br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' (A baby step) <br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' Because they're really not intended as a financial incentive - the difference in actual dollars is meaningless to most who play. <br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' Even cornerstones only amount to bypassing an insignificant amount of Compound Maintenance. (Though there's a huge psychological difference between a compound that you must maintain and one that stands perfectly on it's own.)<br> | ||
+ | '''Quin:''' I was thinking even small things (like being able to get the veggie seeds/default pyro shapes from 1 university instead of doing a tour), of even some of the mentorship awards in that you created would be more enticing <br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' Yeah, I'm open to swapping around the goodies. I do want to be careful to not make success in the game tied to how much $ you put in. <br> | ||
+ | '''Quin:''' Yes, I do like that idea... and really the redecoration option for 12-months is a really good incentive (though make it clear if you can get more then one per tale, perhaps?)<br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' I think it's great that there is no tie between RL circumstances and status in ATITD. (I've come to know many players over the years.)<br> | ||
+ | '''Teppy:''' Anyway, back to code for now - thanks.<br> | ||
+ | |||
=Welcome!= | =Welcome!= | ||
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== Guilds == | == Guilds == | ||
Elder in [[Guilds/Paradise Public Works|Paradise Public Works]]<br> | Elder in [[Guilds/Paradise Public Works|Paradise Public Works]]<br> | ||
− | + | Elder in Paradise Public Mentoring<br> | |
+ | Member in [[Guilds/Egyptian Life|Egyptian Life]]<br> | ||
+ | Associate in Egyptian Mac Users Guild<br> | ||
+ | Initiate in [[Guilds/Nomad Scholars Guild|Nomad Scholar's Guild]] | ||
== Other Pages == | == Other Pages == | ||
+ | [[User:Quin/Cooking|My Cooking Experiments]] | ||
+ | |||
[[User:Quin/Macros|My Macros]] | [[User:Quin/Macros|My Macros]] | ||
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==== Architecture ==== | ==== Architecture ==== | ||
− | *Initiation: | + | *Initiation: COMPLETE |
− | *Obelisk: | + | |
+ | '''[[Test of the Obelisk]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: COMPLETE | ||
+ | *Test: | ||
+ | **Debating which Obelisk to build :D | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of the Funerary Temple]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: | ||
+ | **Not actively pursuing | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of Towers]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: | ||
+ | **Gathering materials for 2+ tower types | ||
==== Art ==== | ==== Art ==== | ||
− | *Initiation: | + | *Initiation: COMPLETE<br> |
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of Khefre's Children]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: | ||
+ | **Need to build a Terrarium | ||
+ | **Breed from 50% | ||
+ | **Mix paint | ||
+ | **Exhibit Beetle | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of Pyrotechnics]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: | ||
+ | **Almost everything | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of the Raeli Mosaic]]''' | ||
+ | * LOCKED | ||
==== Body ==== | ==== Body ==== | ||
− | *Initiation: | + | *Initiation: COMPLETE<br> |
− | * | + | |
+ | '''[[Test of the Acrobat]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: COMPLETE | ||
+ | **Test: See in-game info for moves missing. | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of the Singing Cicada]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: | ||
+ | ** Need to build cage (Have 1, need 4? more bugs) | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of the Safari]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: | ||
+ | **Force an Otter to move | ||
==== Harmony ==== | ==== Harmony ==== | ||
− | *Initiation | + | *Initiation: COMPLETE<br> |
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of the Prophet]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: COMPLETE | ||
+ | *Test: Need to remember to place predictions! | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of Marriage]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: COMPLETE | ||
+ | *Test: Not Participating | ||
==== Leadership ==== | ==== Leadership ==== | ||
− | *Initiation | + | *Initiation: COMPLETE<br> |
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of the Kingmaker]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: | ||
+ | **Participate in 2 more rounds | ||
+ | **Make 1 more prediction | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of Mentorship]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: | ||
+ | **Built a Sacelum | ||
+ | **Get Decrees | ||
==== Thought ==== | ==== Thought ==== | ||
− | *Initiation | + | *Initiation: COMPLETE<br> |
+ | |||
+ | [[Test of the Pathmaker]] | ||
+ | * LOCKED | ||
==== Worship ==== | ==== Worship ==== | ||
− | *Initiation | + | *Initiation: COMPLETE<br> |
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Test of the Vigil]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle: COMPLETE | ||
+ | *Test: May participate in Vigils later in the tale, once points get to reasonable levels. | ||
+ | |||
+ | '''[[Path of the Pilgrim]]''' | ||
+ | *Principle & Test: Gathering materials, will probably lead group eventually. | ||
− | == Skills == | + | == Skills Needed == |
− | + | ====Multi-School==== | |
+ | {| border="1" class="wikitable sortable" | ||
+ | ! Lvl !! Skill !! School !! Resource !! Notes | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Mechanics]] ||Arch ||400 [[Concrete]] || *(Lvl 8, 10, 13, 17, 22, 32) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Mechanics]] ||Art ||49 [[Acid]] || *(Lvl 8, 10, 13, 17, 22, 32) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Mechanics]] ||Body ||300 [[Malt (raw)]], 300 [[Malt (burnt)]] || *(Lvl 8, 10, 13, 17, 22, 32) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Mechanics]] ||Harmony ||200 [[Rope]], 200 [[Slate]] || *(Lvl 8, 10, 13, 17, 22, 32) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Mechanics]] ||Leader ||1000 [[Gold Wire]] || *(Lvl 8, 10, 13, 17, 22, 32) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Mechanics]] ||Thought ||10 [[Cuttable Lapis]], 10 [[Cuttable Garnet]], 10 [[Cuttable Amethyst]], 10 [[Cuttable Turquoise]] || *(Lvl 8, 10, 13, 17, 22, 32) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Mechanics]] ||Worship ||1 [[Huge Sapphire]], 1 [[Large Emerald]], 1 [[Medium Diamond]], 1 [[Small Topaz]] || *(Lvl 8, 10, 13, 17, 22, 32) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Salvage Techniques]] ||Arch ||COMPLETE || *Lvl 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Salvage Techniques]] ||Art ||COMPLETE || *Lvl 4 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Salvage Techniques]] ||Body ||COMPLETE || *Lvl 7 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Salvage Techniques]] ||Harmony ||4 [[Night Granite]], 4 [[Canary Granite]], 4 [[White Travertine]] || *(Lvl 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Salvage Techniques]] ||Lead ||200 [[Cut Stone]], 100 [[Clay]], 2 [[Oyster Shell Marble]] || *(Lvl 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Salvage Techniques]] ||Thought ||20 [[Cuttable Garnet]], 20 [[Cuttable Turquoise]] || *(Lvl 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Salvage Techniques]] ||Worship ||200 [[Leather]], 300 [[Glass Rods]], 300 [[Papyrus Paper]] || *(Lvl 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Maintenance]] ||Arch ||COMPLETE || *Lvl 1 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Maintenance]] ||Art ||4 [[Thermometer]], 100 [[Sheet Glass]] || *(Lvl 7, 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Maintenance]] ||Body ||300 [[Linen]], 300 [[Canvas]] || *(Lvl 7, 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Maintenance]] ||Harmony ||500 [[Papyrus Paper]], 125 [[Glass Rods]] || *(Lvl 7, 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Maintenance]] ||Leader ||2 [[Large Gear]], 80 [[Leather]] || *(Lvl 7, 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Maintenance]] ||Thought ||COMPLETE || *Lvl 4 | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Maintenance]] ||Worship ||4 [[Mud Granite]], 4 [[Rose Alabaster]] || *(Lvl 7, 14, 21, 28, 35) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Repair]] ||Arch ||14 [[Pulleys]] || *(Lvl 4, 8, 12, 16, 22, 30, 38) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Repair]] ||Art ||60 [[Linen]] || *(Lvl 4, 8, 12, 16, 22, 30, 38) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Repair]] ||Body ||200 [[Cut Stone]], 200 [[Beeswax]], 200 [[Charcoal]] || *(Lvl 4, 8, 12, 16, 22, 30, 38) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Repair]] ||Harmony ||300 [[Glass Rods]], 300 [[Leather]] || *(Lvl 4, 8, 12, 16, 22, 30, 38) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Repair]] ||Leader ||300 [[Papyrus Paper]], 300 [[Flint]] || *(Lvl 4, 8, 12, 16, 22, 30, 38) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Repair]] ||Thought ||2 [[Oyster Shell Marble]], 20 [[Cuttable Jade]], 200 [[Bricks]] || *(Lvl 4, 8, 12, 16, 22, 30, 38) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | * || [[Structure Repair]] ||Worship ||1 [[Huge Emerald]], 1 [[Large Topaz]], 1 [[Medium Ruby]], 1 [[Small Sapphire]] || *(Lvl 4, 8, 12, 16, 22, 30, 38) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 2 ||[[Ritual Item Construction]]||Worship ||14 [[Candle]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 5 ||[[The Art of the Pipe]]|| Art ||7 [[Fine Glass Rods]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 7 ||[[Project Management]] 2||Leader ||4 [[Canvas]], 12 [[Rope]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 7 || [[Ecology]] 2|| Body ||20 [[Cabbage Juice]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 8 || [[Botanical Identification]] 1|| Body ||10 [[Acorn's Cap]], 10 [[Bleeding Hand]], 10 [[Camel's Mane Mushroom|Camel's Mane]], 10 [[Cobra's Hood Mushroom|Cobra's Hood]], 10 [[Dead Tongue]], 10 [[Toad Skin Mushroom|Toad Skin]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 8 ||[[Camp Decoration]] 1|| Art ||7 [[Medium Ruby]], 7 [[Medium Emerald]], 7 [[Medium Sapphire]], 7 [[Medium Diamond]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9 ||[[Botanist's Touch]] ||Worship ||150 150 [[Flower Fertilizer]], 100 [[Sticky Sun Fertilizer]], 100 [[Liquid Sun Fertilizer]], 50 [[Harvest Elixer]], 1 [[Khefre's Essence]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 9 ||[[Pilgrim Shrine Construction]]||Worship ||1 [[Oyster Shell Marble]], 1 [[Yellow Alabaster]], 1 [[Mud Granite]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 10 || [[Botanical Identification]] 2|| Body ||15 15 [[Earth Light Mushroom|Earth Light]], 15 [[Fish Hook Mushroom|Fish Hook]], 15 [[Hairy Tooth]], 15 [[Nefertari's Crown Mushroom|Nefertari's Crown]], 15 [[Ra's Awakening Mushroom|Ra's Awakening]], 15 [[Slave's Bread Mushroom|Slave's Bread]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 10 || [[Carving]] 4|| Body ||10 [[Barrel Tap]], 10 [[Wooden Pestle]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 10 ||[[Camp Decoration]] 2|| Art ||1 [[Large Ruby]], 1 [[Large Emerald]], 1 [[Large Sapphire]], 1 [[Large Diamond]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 11 ||[[Advanced Tub Design]] 1 || Art ||200 [[Saltpeter]], 200 [[Sulfur]], 20 [[Tar]], 1 [[Tangerine Marble]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12 || [[Ecology]] 3|| Body ||20 [[Dried Flax]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12 || [[Botanical Identification]] 3|| Body ||20 [[Cat Nip Mushroom|Catnip]], 20 [[Peasant's Foot Mushroom|Peasant's Foot]], 20 [[Scorpion's Brood Mushroom|Scorpion's Brood]], 20 [[Heart of Ash Mushroom|Heart of Ash]], 20 [[Colt's Foot Mushroom|Colt's Foot]], 20 [[Heaven's Torrent Mushroom|Heaven's Torrent]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 12 ||[[Camp Decoration]] 3|| Art ||7 [[Large Ruby]], 7 [[Large Emerald]], 7 [[Large Sapphire]], 7 [[Large Diamond]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14 ||[[Advanced Tub Design]] 2 || Art ||100 [[Iron Bars]], 10 [[Small Barrels]], 50 [[Fine Glass Pipe]], 20 [[Barrel Tap]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14 || [[Carving]] 5|| Body ||10 [[Bottle Stopper]], 10 [[Cotter Pin]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14 ||[[Navigation]] 3||Harmony ||25 [[Copper]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 14 ||[[Camp Decoration]] 4|| Art ||1 [[Huge Ruby]], 1 [[Huge Emerald]], 1 [[Huge Sapphire]], 1 [[Huge Diamond]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 15 || [[Indonesian Bee Care]]|| Body ||500 [[Honey]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 16 ||[[Cooking]] 5||Worship ||7 [[Chukkah]], 7 [[Crimson Lettuce]], 7 [[Crumpled Leaf Basil]], 7 [[Dwarf Wild Lettuce]], 7 [[Jaivanti]], 7 [[Royal Rosemary]], 7 [[Wild Garlic]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 19 || [[Ecology]] 4|| Body ||50 [[Cabbage]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 19 ||[[Navigation]] 4||Harmony ||50 [[Papyrus Paper]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 21 ||[[Camp Decoration]] 5|| Art ||7 [[Huge Ruby]], 7 [[Huge Emerald]], 7 [[Huge Sapphire]], 7 [[Huge Diamond]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 22 ||[[Cooking]] 6||Worship ||100 [[Peppers]], 100 [[Eggplant]], 100 [[Cucumbers]], 100 [[Coconut Meat]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 25 ||[[Navigation]] 5||Harmony ||6 [[Silk Cloth]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 26 || [[Ecology]] 5|| Body ||10 [[Papyrus Paper]], 20 [[Cactus Sap]] | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 29 ||[[Cooking]] 7||Worship ||100 [[Barley]] (Burnt), 100 [[Malt (burnt)|Malt]] (Burnt), 100 [[Wheat]] (Burnt) | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | 32 ||[[Navigation]] 6||Harmony ||UNKNOWN | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | |} |
Latest revision as of 16:36, 22 May 2009
Open Letter to Teppy
This is a problem for every customer - UPDATE YOUR BILLING PAGES.
- Take off the PayByCash crap and put up PayPal information.
- Provide package-without-tshirt information on package pages.
- Make this information readily available offline (i.e. link from wiki under "Links")
- Have a "Place Billing Related GM Call" button on the billing tab.
- Work with PayPal to have a form with player name, subscription type, address, etc. for offline purchases -OR-
- Since the billing interface is online, it's ineffective(stupid) to present a credit card information box when an expired/quit account logs in. Instead, provide some kind of 'limbo' where they can submit billing calls or choose a subscription package. -OR- refer them to the form you created for (#5)
- There's a good reason T3's population dropped after 12 months. Sheep, fireworks, and cornerstones don't cut it for senior players. Add some incentive for repeat purchases, make an event out of the 6th/12th/18th/etc. month of the Tale by rolling out new packages. After the 6th month, make the T-Shirt optional just like the music CD.
- Add financial incentive to packages. They currently all boil down to $13.2/month - your consumer base is 20+ so can do the math, and many know basic economic principles (money today is worth more then money tomorrow). Figure out how much interest you save/can get if we pay you up front vs. monthly and pass that savings along!
If you don't believe me, ask! You have the unique advantage to be able to talk directly to your consumers. Most marketers would wet themselves for such a situation.
Response
Teppy: Some suggestions are easily done and worthwhile (#1,#2,#4), some more effort than they are worth (#3,#5), and some are by my judgement not wise for us to do (#6,#8)
Teppy: Thanks for the thoughts and the email - some will be done.
Teppy: On subscription costs more generally - I like the notion of "pay what you want." But done in a way where by paying more you get bonuses that don't affect gameplay.
Teppy: The multi-month packages are a step in that direction...
Teppy: (A baby step)
Teppy: Because they're really not intended as a financial incentive - the difference in actual dollars is meaningless to most who play.
Teppy: Even cornerstones only amount to bypassing an insignificant amount of Compound Maintenance. (Though there's a huge psychological difference between a compound that you must maintain and one that stands perfectly on it's own.)
Quin: I was thinking even small things (like being able to get the veggie seeds/default pyro shapes from 1 university instead of doing a tour), of even some of the mentorship awards in that you created would be more enticing
Teppy: Yeah, I'm open to swapping around the goodies. I do want to be careful to not make success in the game tied to how much $ you put in.
Quin: Yes, I do like that idea... and really the redecoration option for 12-months is a really good incentive (though make it clear if you can get more then one per tale, perhaps?)
Teppy: I think it's great that there is no tie between RL circumstances and status in ATITD. (I've come to know many players over the years.)
Teppy: Anyway, back to code for now - thanks.
Welcome!
Welcome! Many know me better as Quinton of T3. I spent my time last tale developing an advanced public works, called "Quin's Resource Center" near the University of Architecture in the Desert of Shades.
This Tale, I am living in Nomads' Paradise as a key member of Paradise Public Works as planner and general handyman. If you live in Nomads' Paradise, come pay us a visit, or possibly even join!
During Tale 3, I arrived mid-tale and departed roughly 4 months prior to the end of the tale. This was because I found myself here instead of doing homework for college! As such, I will probably have to disappear shortly after winter break. My goal before I go is to build the infrastructure to ensure Nomads' Paradise is a place I can return to once my hiatus is over. I hope to be back later in the tale (perhaps July 2009).
Guilds
Elder in Paradise Public Works
Elder in Paradise Public Mentoring
Member in Egyptian Life
Associate in Egyptian Mac Users Guild
Initiate in Nomad Scholar's Guild
Other Pages
Test Progress
Level 5 Initiate of Three
Architecture
- Initiation: COMPLETE
- Principle: COMPLETE
- Test:
- Debating which Obelisk to build :D
- Principle:
- Not actively pursuing
- Principle:
- Gathering materials for 2+ tower types
Art
- Initiation: COMPLETE
- Principle:
- Need to build a Terrarium
- Breed from 50%
- Mix paint
- Exhibit Beetle
- Principle:
- Almost everything
- LOCKED
Body
- Initiation: COMPLETE
- Principle: COMPLETE
- Test: See in-game info for moves missing.
- Principle:
- Need to build cage (Have 1, need 4? more bugs)
- Principle:
- Force an Otter to move
Harmony
- Initiation: COMPLETE
- Principle: COMPLETE
- Test: Need to remember to place predictions!
- Principle: COMPLETE
- Test: Not Participating
Leadership
- Initiation: COMPLETE
- Principle:
- Participate in 2 more rounds
- Make 1 more prediction
- Principle:
- Built a Sacelum
- Get Decrees
Thought
- Initiation: COMPLETE
- LOCKED
Worship
- Initiation: COMPLETE
- Principle: COMPLETE
- Test: May participate in Vigils later in the tale, once points get to reasonable levels.
- Principle & Test: Gathering materials, will probably lead group eventually.