Demi-Pharaoh/debates

debate notes and questions

For September 5 debate. Time will be at 2:00pm EST on Sunday.

Please create an intro for yourself and post it under the INTRO heading

Each candidate, please answer each question listed

INTRODUCTIONS

• Aku

• Dreasimy

Hello Egypt! I’ve been playing since Tale 1. I love the community that ATITD manages to foster – I appreciate its openness and diversity. Egypt holds a special place in my heart also because at a wine tasting in Sinai in Tale 1, I met Ay for the first time and now we’ve been married (in real life) for over 4 years. J My main hobbies in Egypt are Wine, Mines, the Test of theVenery, hosting a silly Microphone called GOO, and creating and running events.

• Dustitwister

• Ephemere

Hello fellows Egyptians :)

I'm an old player (an old man too ?) from T1, I was here too in T2 and T3 so I have a lot of experience from the game, the main laws, the gameplay, the 'ethics' from the game. I'm french, living in Paris and I'm adult's trainer in health and safety at work : my last english lesson is far, very far, so be tolerant of my spelling and grammar, please :)

Bonjour, citoyens égyptiens :)

Je suis un ancien joueur (et un vieil homme ?) de T1, j'étais là aussi dans T2 et T3, j'ai donc une grande expérience du jeu, des principales loi, du gameplay, de l'éthique du jeu. Je suis français et je vis à Paris, je suis formateur pour adultes en santé et sécurité au travail : ma dernière leçon d'anglais est loin, très loin, aussi je vous demande d'être tolérants avec mon orthographe et ma grammaire, s'il vous plait :)

• Murtha

hello Egypt! I'm so sorry i couldn't be here today, unfortunantly my schedule won't permit it.

But, before I say anything, I'd like to send good thoughts and prayers to Spooner whom I've been informed is in the hospital. He is an amazing person and player and one of the reasons I love egypt!! We miss you Spoony!

Anyway, my intro - I'm a fairly long time player. I've seen the ups and downs of Egypt, rather like real life in that:) I'm a bit 'older', a retired psychologist and a mother of 10 awesome kids. Conflict has been a way of life for as you can tell. I try to interject humor in most everything, I find that to be a great diffuser if you can get folks to laugh at themselves. I'm really into the creativety of egypt as any of you who have visited my CP and sheep playground know.

As a side note, since i can't be here to answer general questions, please chat me with them or any question, concern,comment.

• SpicyXX

• Twoshadows

Hello Egyptians :) I am a former player from Tale 2, had to skip 3 due to financial and time constraints. I am probably one of the younger, if not the youngest, DP up for debate. I currently study maths at university and am just entering my second year now. I think I would be able to provide quite a lot of energy into the role, and time as my course is not too time intensive. I am from the United Kingdom so I am generally around during European times although I am around late at night, well evening for most of you, so I do also interact with American players quite a lot too.

Questions

1. Please explain why you think Egypt should vote for you for DP

• Aku

• Dreasimy

• Dustitwister

• Ephemere

I think this question can be merged with the number 4 : 'What do you believe the role of DP is ?' For this, as much as put myself in place of an Egyptian (yes, empathy is a necessary quality for a DP!). I don't want to be banned : candidates must give me a guarantee of fairness and balance to make sure do not ban me for nothing. Then, a DP can not be banished himself, except by using an heavy procedure : I must be sure that my candidate will not 'flipping out' and doing crazy things (it has already seen). Last, but not written anywhere, I am able to use the services of a DP as a mediator/negociator in conflict with another player/guld. This last task is the main job for a DP.
My professionnal experience of course, but my past in the three previous tales speak for me : I think to gather these capabilities.

Je pense que cette question peut-être fusionnée avec la 4 : 'quel est selon vous le rôle d'un DP ?' Pour cela, autant se mettre à la place d'un égyptien (oui, l'empathie est une qualité nécessaire pour un DP !). Je ne veux pas être banni : les candidats doivent me donner une garantie de leur équité et de leur équilibre afin d'être sûr de ne pas me faire bannir pour un rien. Ensuite, un DP ne peut pas être banni lui-même, sauf en utilisant une procédure lourde : je dois être sûr que mon candidat ne va pas 'péter les plombs' et faire des choses insensées (cela s'est déjà vu). Enfin, mais ce n'est écrit nulle part, je dois pouvoir utiliser les services d'un DP comme médiateur/négociateur lors d'un conflit avec un autre joueur/guilde. Ce dernier point est le travail principal d'un DP.
Mon expérience professionnelle bien sûr, mais aussi mon passé dans les trois précédents tales parlent pour moi : je pense réunir ces capacités.

• Murtha

Well, my RL experiences of psychologist and mom of a herd stand me in good stead here. I have people from all over egypt chatting me for advice on how to handle one situation or another already, including sitting DPs. I think my biggest strength is being able to help folks find their own solutions, which is much more palatable. I also know when something is beyond me, and have never hesitated to ask for advice (just check with my early mentors). Those who know me , both here in and in RL, know that I am impartial, open and ready to listen to all sides.

• SpicyXX

• Twoshadows

I am very organised and good at planning which I believe is a key skill to be a DP as if your time is not managed correctly then you will be nowhere near as effective as you could be. I help run the weightlifting society at my university and am an Ex captain at my golf club so I am used to the pressures of having resposibility, having to organise things and dealing with people in a way that they feel like something is being done to help them and that I am on their side. I am friendly and am willing to help out anyone who needs it, I have a few things to learn myself I am sure. I am good at remaining impartial when making descisions, a vital attribute for a DP as there is no room for blinkered eyes if one of your friends is in the wrong in an argument.

2. Please tell us what some of your accomplishments are this tale

• Aku

• Dreasimy

• Dustitwister

• Ephemere

My playing style is inspired by two discipline : the human body and the worship. The human body for his appearance a bit individualist, the opportunity to surpass oneself, the patience, but also the cooperation between players. The worship for its social dimension, mutual aid and achieving a common task. These preferences are reflected in my style of play: first, I have a camp with my spouse, lilinou, we trying to provide alone with our basic needs to be independent : on the other hand, I participate at the life of the Egyptian community through my work as a translator, but also in my guilds, or the support that I bring to the research, according to my means, especially the development of roses of Ra.
I do not feel the need to put myself forward, so I can give the impression of being 'absent' whatsoever on E!, or in the forums but I try to stay informed of the main events in Egyptian life ; I feel no need to proclaim my accomplishments everywhere or the help I can give to my fellow citizens, I am doing it for my pleasure.

Mon style de jeu trouve son inspiration dans deux grandes disciplines : le corps humain et la vénération. Le corps humain pour son aspect un peu individualiste, la possibilité de se dépasser soi-même, la patience, mais aussi la coopération entre joueurs. La vénération pour sa dimension sociale, l'entraide et la réalisation d'un objectif commun. Ces préférences se retrouvent dans mon style de jeu : d'une part, j'ai un camp où, avec mon épouse lilinou, nous essayons de subvenir seuls à nos besoins essentiels afin d'être indépendants : d'autre part je participe à la vie de la communauté égyptienne à travers mon activité de traducteur, mais aussi dans mes guildes, ou encore l'aide que j'apporte à la recherche, en fonction de mes moyens, en particulier le développement des roses de Ra.
Je ne ressens pas le besoin de me mettre en avant, c'est pourquoi je peux donner l'impression d'être 'absent' que ce soit sur E!, ou bien dans les forums mais j'essaie de rester informé des principaux événements de la vie égyptienne ; je n'éprouve pas le besoin de clâmer partout mes réalisations ou encore l'aide que je peux apporter à mes concitoyens, je le fais pour mon plaisir.

• Murtha

well, one of the things i'm proud of is helping to bring together 2 guilds that were suffering from misunderstandings and now they are working together to build an aqua line that so far has i believe 40 towers and has not run dry yet. Most of what I do is not in the limelight, helping people with beetles, giving advice and mentoring as much as I can.

• SpicyXX

• Twoshadows

In this tale I am trying to be as balanced as possible in my pursuit of tests, one from each at a time. One of my main achievemnets I believe is the speed in which I passed test of the acrobat, I set myself a goal of before I went on holiday, approximately 2 weeks away, and set about achieveing that goal. Finally on the night before I passed achieveing my goal but most of all meeting a lot of amazing people along the way and making some good friends too :) The majority of my time at the moment is spent in beetle breeding, 9 terraniums but planning to expand to 18, and glass making, something i find relaxing to do. All khefre's essence produced is donated to research, at the moment i produce 1 every 2-3 days which I find helps research along a lot :)

3. Land disputes are the main cause of conflict this tale... how would you handle this? (example: someone builds an oven in someones camp, or a mine too close to someones cp)

• Aku

• Dreasimy

• Dustitwister

• Ephemere

The concept of land's property does not exist in Egypt, there is no law that governs it, however there is a rule that prohibits building where someone has already built : the GM are the guardians of it. Before to call them, a DP may attempt to intervene, but his power is very thin and only his talents as a mediator may eventually resolve the conflict.
La notion de propriété immobilière n'existe pas en Egypte, il n'y a pas de loi qui la régisse ; en revanche il existe une règle qui interdit de construire là où quelqu'un a déjà construit, les GM en sont les gardiens. Avant de faire appel à eux, un DP peut tenter d'intervenir mais son pouvoir est bien mince et seuls ses talents de médiateur pourront éventuellement résoudre le conflit.

• Murtha

That is a toughie. Egypt doesn't have defined land ownership, so there are many things that are in grey areas. If something is obviously a case of not knowing, I help the offender with mats to move the offendindg structure. If it is a case of pure griefing, usually reasoning will not work, though i do try. The best a DP can do in that situation is try their best to effect a reasonable solution. If TOS has been violated, then the GMs can be called in.

• SpicyXX

• Twoshadows

I believe the main thing here is to find a solution to the problem that is acceptable to both parties, possibly the person with the grievance may be willing to allow the building to remain where it is for a certain percentage of the items produced. If this is not the case then I would help the builder move the offending building to a new and more acceptable place by gathering materials and aiding in construction anyway possible. Whilst the concept of ownership is not defined in any laws as of yet it is important to respect people's space and plans, by working with both parties I believe any disputes can be sorted out fairly and justly.

4. What do you believe the role of DP is?

• Aku

• Dreasimy

• Dustitwister

• Ephemere

See my answer at number 1 / Je vous renvoie à ma réponse de la question 1

• Murtha

A DP is basically an impartial third party observer, whose job it is to mediate and/or negotiate solutions to the problems players might have with each other. The role is NOT a policeman, or to force your views on others. I see it as a chance to help correct misunderstanding educate new players and help the stress and frustration we all feel, that sometimes gets the better of us.

• SpicyXX

• Twoshadows

A DP's role is to act as a judge for all of Egypt, people bring their problems to them and they hear all the evidence before dispensing a well considered verdict and possibke recriminations. A DP is also a community support officer, offering help to people that need it most and educating people in the ways of Egypt so that less disputes occur in the future.

5. Explosives are about to come out... is this a bannable offense? Would YOU ban someone for this?

• Aku

• Dreasimy

• Dustitwister

• Ephemere

Hmmm ... need I say it here ? That might go against me, but I was the mentor from Cathy in T1 ... Since, the time spent :)
Back to the topic ... There is no typical situation, so there is no typical clue ; I retain only one principle : the one who caused the damage should pay (the principle of civil liability). Regarding the 'criminal's consequences' from the case, I think DP should get together and make a group answer. This raises a more general question of the use of the ban : I think, except a case requiring an urgent response, the decision of a ban and its duration should be taken collectively by all the DP.

Hmmm ... dois-je le dire ici ? Cela ne me rendra pas forcemment service, mais j'étais le mentor de Cathy dans T1 ... Depuis le temps a passé :)
Revenons au sujet ... Il n'y a pas de situation type, il ne peut donc y avoir de solution type ; je ne retiens qu'un seul principe : celui ou celle qui a causé des dommages devrait les rembourser (principe de responsabilité civile). Pour ce qui concerne les suites 'pénales' de l'affaire, je pense que les DP devraient se réunir et rendre une réponse collégiale. Ceci pose d'une manière plus générale la question de l'utilisation du bannissement : selon moi, sauf exception nécessitant une réponse urgente, la décision du ban et sa durée devrait être prise collégialement par l'ensemble des DP.

• Murtha

If a person blew up a critical structure, like a CS or a public facility, then in my mind they are asking to be banned. In the cases i've seen where someone has been banned, they have done things in order to BE banned, they wanted it. But i think we ought to draft some very clear laws so that we do have direction, maybe define the restitutions etc. My thoughts of someone blowing up private structures is that the offender should be responsible for the mats needed to replace/rebuild.

• SpicyXX

• Twoshadows

It all depends on the actions of the person, blowing up something considerable and widely used such as public facilities is a bannable offence in my opinion. Unless the offender can replace eveything they create quickly, and if the acted in a malicious way then I believe they should be banned. Blowing up someone's compound as a little joke wouldnt be too bad as long as the offender replaced all mats needed and helped in construction then that would be considered ok as long as they are not a serial offender. However blowing up all of a certain person's buildings out of spite and then not helping would be bannable, it just is not acceptable behaviour.