Illusid/Delegate

The following is a transcript of the DP discussion in my group. This is posted for the purpose of helping my constituents decide on who I will be voting for. Gaps in the conversation represent time gaps. I missed some of the initial hellos and will try to record everything that is said to the best of my ability.

Welcome illusid, Osidion, Kimber, Yondri, Vivix, Bryce.

Vivix: Hello everybody. I come with a mandate from my group to either go for it, or elect someone sensible.

Bryce: hi Vivix

Bryce: don't know about sensible, but i believe i have the qualities and qualifications to make an excellant dp

Osidion: Hello DP hopefuls :D

illusid: Hi Osidion although I am an elected delegate representing my constituents not a DP hopeful =)

Osidion: Well hello Illusid, please, call me Osi :D

Osidion: I am Hopeful, and hopefully there will be a bit more discussion this round than last :D

illusid: heya Osi anyhow just to explain what I mean a little bit, I have no desire to be DP but im not here from a default situation. I've heard abot serious problems in the later DP rounds where u have everyone there someone who really wants to be elected DP

illusid: My idea was to go forward as a representative of the votes of anyhow who didnt want to advance but also didnt want to give up their right to choose who is on the final ballot

illusid: i might actually try to expand this to include more people than myself and make a guild out of it but generally I'm here to listen and relay information to the people I represent and allow them to vote on who I vote for

Osidion: Can i ask what it is in a person that you and the people you represent would like to see in a DP candidate?

illusid: I can get back to you on that and I will likely forward a question or two from my constituents, but the vote really is literaly up to them as I will remain in contact and forward what is said here

Osidion: Ok, fair enough :D

illusid: I mean im happy to spout of personal opinions, but they won't nessecarily be representative of how I will vote. =)

illusid: but any dialogue is likely to help people make a better decision on who to vote for although I would suspect most if not everyone else is looking to be elected

Osidion: Yes, dialogue IS a good thing and i personally think it should be one of the quailties in a good DP :D

Osidion: So, whats "your" opinion of what qualities a DP candidate have?

Osidion: erm

Osidion: - should have*

illusid: well stable is good and i generally like people who work for the good of all of us above themselves

Osidion: back, had to walk my dogs :D

illusid: wb =)

Osidion: thanx :D

illusid: did u participate in the last dp elections osidion? and how far did u go if you did

illusid: sorry Osi =)

Osidion: yes i did participate in the last elections but i did not advance past the first round as i voted for someone else

Osidion: let me just say, i have been playing since T2 and have actively sought DP in the game, each tale i have made it to final voting at least once, and made DP in T5 :D

Osidion: And kind of like the role you are taking, i'd rather see someone more qualified than me go on the DP than me just passing a test

illusid: to me i think one of the greatest qualifications is to be able to step aside

illusid: especially when it comes to rounds where everyone there obviously has put a lot of effort into convinceing people they would make a good DP

Osidion: Actually, the ones i vote for have usually convinced me outside of DP rounds that they should get the shot :D

Osidion: by what they do and how they act towards others ingame

illusid: well I mean in say the sase last round I had a close friend in the final lulu round

illusid: everyone of them there wanted to advance to the open election, but they were in the messed up situation of noone else there to choose between them but themselves

illusid: this is the problem i see inherient in the group voting system

illusid: its more likely that the most reasonable among them will be the one to step aside at that point because why make it a tie?

Osidion: exactly

illusid: but then also its unfair to people who had supported people through a couple rounds of voting to be the one to step aside for someone they themselves might not nesssecarily support

illusid: anyhow im mostly stuck on this to explain my purpose here more than anything, I think the idea of throwing all the people trying to win DP into a group and making them vote on each other doesnt work very well.

Bryce: am curious, are we going to have a debate or discussion on reaching a consensus on who should be voted to go to the next round? 1 day 16 hours left in this Demi-Pharaoh round.

Bryce: some of my qualifications are; i've played here since T2 so i know the norms and boundaries of the society, i've been a dp before so i understand the responsibilities of the position,

Bryce: and i have more experience than anyone in the game dealing with the sorts of disputes that usually requre a dp's intervention, as i am part of a mediation board that meets 3 times a month to mediate auto medical claims. i use those skills a lot to settle disputes and reach a consensus here, also.

illusid: Bryce it may have gotten scrolled off the screen for you, but i will reitterate, I was elected by my constituents to serve as a delegate in this round. my vote is solely determined by those who put me here. anything said here I will be posting to the wiki for them to read and decide on who to elect.

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Bryce: am curious, are we going to have a debate or discussion on reaching a consensus on who should be voted to go to the next round?

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Bryce: some of my qualifications are; i've played here since T2 so i know the norms and boundaries of the society, i've been a dp before so i understand the responsibilities of the position,

Bryce: and i have more experience than anyone in the game dealing with the sorts of disputes that usually requre a dp's intervention, as i am part of a mediation board that meets 3 times a month to mediate auto medical claims. i use those skills a lot to settle disputes and reach a consensus here, also.

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illusid: Bryce it may have gotten scrolled off the screen for you, but i will reitterate, I was elected by my constituents to serve as a delegate in this round. my vote is solely determined by those who put me here. anything said here I will be posting to the wiki for them to read and decide on who to elect.

illusid: http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale6/Illusid/Delegate

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Bryce: i understand your purpose here, illusid. I've never been in a dp round where I was not able to have a discussion and have a consensus formed as to who should advance. Bryce: it has not always been myself, of course, but the rounds I have been in, i have been able to take 7 ppl, all who are interested in becoming dp, and reach a decision as to who should advance.

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Bryce: I am not interested in becoming a dp just to pass a test. In my experience here, if you have a dp that is skilled in negotiations and mediation, they are able to diffuse the situation and get the parties to hopefully alter their behaviour and reach an agreement.

Bryce: i have done that unofficially, and officially since i started this game. Being a DP would allow me more opportunitites to mediate the various disputes that arise here.

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Bryce: I had hoped to have some discussion with the rest of the candidates in this round regarding your candidates qualifications, reasons, and observations about becoming a DP.

Bryce: Since no one except myself has posted any qualifications, thoughts on what they would do as a DP, or given me any reason to vote for them, AND because I will not be on again until after the deadline for voting, I am forced to vote for who I believe would make the best DP from this group, which, based on the game and r/l experience I have, would be myself.

Bryce: And i would ask for all of you to support me in my bid to become the next DP

Vivix: Yes, that's a normal way to see it.

Bryce: I don't like to vote until the group has reached a consensus, but as no one else has really spoken, i don't have a choice

Bryce voted for himself as Demi-Pharaoh.

Osidion: you and i and Illusid have been the only ones to really speak at all :|

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