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Citrus Tree Data

Please add your data especially if you have exotic species

Species Type Color Sweet Size Length Owner
Citron Flat 676 512 612 766 Ariella
515 311 612 758 Ethuriel
Large 642 650 849 909 Ariella
Reddish 743 320 519 737 Tulani
Sweet 676 650 642 909 Ariella
Tangy 743 197 519 737 Tulani
Coralfruit Greenish 676 505 642 464 Shebi
637 556 642 321 Shebi
637 556 642 361 Shebi
676 407 642 464 Shebi
676 407 642 319 Shebi
611 540 642 405 Linalia
698 320 612 425 Numaris
643 311 642 374 Tanafri
Long 676 311 576 533 Malard
676 512 612 533 Ariella
676 311 612 533 Aarys
654 320 550 533 Asnath
716 640 642 533 Linalia
706 505 642 464 Shebi
737 320 612 533 Numaris
685 311 612 533 Numaris
Small 676 311 408 479 Karma
Sweet 676 556 642 464 Shebi
695 556 642 464 Shebi
671 556 642 321 Shebi
644 556 642 321 Shebi
676 540 642 405 Linalia
Tangy 669 183 642 464 Shebi
706 183 642 464 Shebi
775 311 612 374 Tanafri
Corian Long 325 591 642 533 Malard
325 650 394 621 Karma
325 723 642 621 Aseto
292 667 642 552 Ethuriel
Reddish 486 650 612 533 tehmoosh
486 650 627 393 tehmoosh
486 650 627 533 tehmoosh
497 732 476 379 Shebi
461 732 476 379 Shebi
497 732 476 298 Shebi
487 732 476 298 Shebi
487 732 483 298 Shebi
506 732 483 298 Shebi
506 732 576 298 Shebi
515 647 576 353 Shebi
456 780 726 444 Shebi
508 732 576 353 Shebi
515 732 576 250 Shebi
447 732 576 298 Shebi
447 647 576 387 Shebi
419 732 576 353 Shebi
481 732 476 353 Shebi
419 647 638 533 Shebi
486 650 612 444 Shebi
396 650 532 444 Shebi
396 650 544 526 Shebi
396 650 657 444 Shebi
396 780 642 444 Shebi
419 732 576 353 Shebi
524 692 550 357 Trillian
Sweet 367 783 642 374 Tanafri
Grapefruit Greenish 325 438 642 621 Malard
325 320 642 533 Tanafri
325 311 724 533 tehmoosh
325 320 726 533 Shebi
Long 475 369 671 646 Asnath
Reddish 676 325 729 533 Hepnezr
676 509 835 533 Ariella
676 540 759 609 Linalia
676 320 671 533 Asnath
676 311 662 533 Spicy
Small 442 311 642 621 Malard
676 512 642 533 Ariella
676 540 642 533 Linalia
676 325 644 533 Hepnezr
489 311 642 621 tehmoosh
676 311 642 533 Karma
676 232 612 621 Alpha
486 232 612 533 Alpha
486 311 642 533 Shebi
636 556 642 464 Shebi
486 311 642 431 Aarys
618 320 671 533 Asnath
573 311 642 621 Ptahiah
646 320 642 533 Numaris
515 311 642 533 BooBoo
676 401 612 621 Tanafri
515 320 642 533 Shebi
384 320 642 533 Shebi
396 320 642 515 Shebi
579 311 688 444 Shebi
583 311 642 621 Ethuriel
Sweet 486 505 722 537 Shebi
524 588 612 526 Trillian
Tangy 676 183 642 533 Shebi
486 183 642 533 Shebi
631 193 695 533 MouseD
681 183 642 533 Shebi
676 220 642 621 Ethuriel
Lemon Flat 421 325 408 556 Hepnezr
421 325 408 623 Hepnezr
421 325 394 621 Hepnezr
325 311 408 533 Malard
515 226 408 533 tehmoosh
515 270 408 533 Asnath
515 232 408 321 Shebi
486 320 408 444 Shebi
384 320 438 444 Shebi
384 320 408 494 Shebi
396 320 408 533 Shebi
Greenish 325 311 408 621 Hepnezr
325 311 408 621 Malard
325 311 408 621 Neophant
299 226 408 621 tehmoosh
325 311 408 621 Asnath
325 311 408 621 Spy
325 311 408 621 Aseto
325 311 408 621 Ptahiah
325 311 408 621 Azeron
325 311 408 621 Ethuriel
Large 325 311 612 533 Malard
515 311 612 657 Alpha
323 311 642 621 Alpha
486 226 612 646 tehmoosh
486 183 642 621 Shebi
448 311 612 621 Spicy
396 320 532 672 Shebi
455 320 544 672 Shebi
384 320 544 672 Shebi
338 311 612 533 Shebi
265 367 642 621 Ethuriel
Reddish 443 325 408 621 Hepnezr
481 325 408 623 Hepnezr
489 226 394 621 tehmoosh
489 218 394 621 tehmoosh
586 311 408 611 Tanafri
586 270 527 533 Asnath
676 311 408 533 Spicy
676 240 408 621 Ethuriel
Sweet 325 438 408 653 Malard
374 518 408 621 Ptahiah
Tangy 325 184 408 621 Spicy
Lenat Long 325 438 642 533 Malard
456 650 420 511 Shebi
Reddish 497 316 505 398 Forgiving
515 311 408 296 Shebi
558 629 476 321 Shebi
515 629 476 321 Shebi
515 647 476 351 Shebi
515 647 476 379 Shebi
509 647 476 379 Shebi
515 647 476 353 Shebi
481 647 476 298 Shebi
506 647 458 353 Shebi
515 647 476 353 Shebi
515 647 476 250 Shebi
515 647 476 298 Shebi
481 647 476 250 Shebi
525 647 576 353 Shebi
481 573 576 353 Shebi
481 647 476 250 Shebi
455 650 408 444 Shebi
Sweet 469 706 408 363 Forgiving
396 650 420 444 Shebi
Tangy 325 311 642 460 Aarys
253 311 642 533 Malard
325 320 642 374 Tanafri
Lime Large 270 181 642 533 Numaris
219 301 642 621 Numaris
219 37 642 621 Numaris
Reddish 219 301 408 724 Numaris
Sweet 219 320 408 621 Numaris
Tangy 207 37 408 621 Numaris
Mandarin Greenish 676 465 408 533 Asnath
653 511 392 519 Forgiving
829 638 470 414 Numaris
Large 899 638 470 414 Numaris
946 638 470 414 Numaris
946 657 470 414 Numaris
Long 899 638 470 527 Numaris
Orange Flat 676 855 612 415 tehmoosh
Greenish 676 775 642 533 Malard
676 855 612 533 tehmoosh
676 754 642 533 Linalia
565 650 642 533 Ptahiah
676 783 642 464 Shebi
704 789 642 464 Shebi
637 789 642 464 Shebi
515 786 476 379 Shebi
515 787 563 353 Shebi
515 787 476 345 Shebi
579 696 642 444 Shebi
581 732 576 353 Shebi
579 780 642 444 Shebi
693 783 550 533 Trillian
Large 676 783 724 533 tehmoosh
705 650 797 638 Ariella
676 682 759 533 Linalia
676 650 785 552 Ethuriel
Long 749 783 612 533 tehmoosh
Small 700 783 550 533 Trillian
Tangy 676 650 642 533 Hepnezr
676 682 642 498 Ariella
676 650 642 533 Linalia
676 650 642 533 Malard
676 650 729 533 Hepnezr
676 650 642 533 Neophant
676 650 642 533 Asnath
676 650 721 533 MouseD
676 650 642 464 Shebi
676 650 612 464 Shebi
733 754 642 464 Shebi
637 656 642 464 Shebi
699 650 718 533 Aseto
676 650 642 533 Ptahiah
676 650 642 533 Azeron
676 650 642 533 Ethuriel
666 588 550 526 Trillian
736 717 575 432 Trillian
Pummelo Long 642 650 955 909 Ariella
Reddish 676 650 835 533 Ariella
676 540 883 533 Linalia
676 650 798 533 Ethuriel
Small 515 650 718 533 Aseto
486 650 726 621 Shebi
Sweet 647 650 849 533 Ariella
548 667 785 621 Ethuriel
519 679 736 526 Trillian
Summerbell Greenish 545 706 297 363 Forgiving
Tangy 662 511 302 519 Forgiving
Tangelo Flat 587 706 505 545 Forgiving
594 803 510 533 Trillian
Greenish 325 775 408 672 Malard
483 650 661 621 Aiko
491 650 408 621 RosieRazor
515 795 476 597 Shebi
515 795 483 597 Shebi
555 795 476 597 Shebi
396 650 408 621 Shebi
455 650 420 672 Shebi
396 650 420 639 Shebi
594 783 550 596 Trillian
Large 445 882 724 533 tehmoosh
647 682 849 909 Ariella
515 667 642 621 Ethuriel
Long 647 682 612 909 Ariella
Reddish 743 763 408 737 Tulani
Tangy 505 650 642 533 Alpha
676 650 642 638 Ariella
676 650 394 621 Ptahiah
521 650 642 533 Spy
515 650 642 621 MouseD
515 650 624 621 Aseto
676 650 612 650 Spicy
515 629 408 621 Shebi
558 629 476 621 Shebi
644 629 476 621 Shebi
515 629 476 523 Shebi
644 647 476 523 Shebi
644 647 476 597 Shebi
644 647 476 634 Shebi
515 647 476 597 Shebi
685 732 476 597 Shebi
515 647 563 597 Shebi
676 650 612 621 Ethuriel
Tangerine Greenish 656 650 505 422 Forgiving
672 656 642 321 Shebi
644 656 642 321 Shebi
644 691 642 321 Shebi
644 629 476 321 Shebi
644 647 476 321 Shebi
644 732 476 321 Shebi
515 732 476 321 Shebi
515 732 486 321 Shebi
566 732 476 379 Shebi
584 732 476 379 Shebi
512 732 476 298 Shebi
545 732 476 298 Shebi
558 795 476 345 Shebi
581 732 469 250 Shebi
621 732 576 298 Shebi

I suspect a typo in the italicized Long Coralfruit data point. Those stats aren't very close to qualifying as a Coralfruit. Linalia has a number of other entries in the table with a Sweet value of 540... this value (instead of 640) would work. --Numaris

Probable "Ideal" Values

Species Color Sweet Size Length
Citron 684 494 573 823
Coralfruit 684 427 624 458
Corian 325 652 591 486
Grapefruit 583 358 693 551
Lemon 415 289 411 614
Lenat 343 377 568 439
Mandarin 665 488 400 526
Orange 686 757 648 523
Pummelo 601 623 881 533
Sumerbell 662 706 300 441
Tangelo 583 734 566 641
Tangerine 664 653 574 372

Discussion A new way was used to calculate the ideal values. For a specific species the outlier values are ignored for a specific type and the average is then calculated. For instance any Greenish value will have the Color value farthest from the ideal, so for Greenish, the color value is ignored when calculating the average.

The new values differ only slightly from the previous ones but should be more accurate

The exceptions to the above procedure are Tangerine and Mandarin for which we do not have enough values. The color values are therefore strongly skewed towards Greenish in their case. If any one has other types of Tangerine or Mandarin this would help locate a better estimate for the ideal


I did some research on this in Tale 3 and came up with a similar ideal value theory. Each fruit has a set of values for ideal. A tree's fruit is determined by taking the sum of the squares of the differences between the tree's attributes and each fruit's ideal attributes. (Much like how paint colours work). Once a fruit is determined, the adjective is based on the attribute that is farthest from ideal. My list of ideal fruit attributes is slightly different than above.

Species Color Sweet Size Length
Citron 550 400 500 900
Coralfruit 800 400 600 350
Corian 250 650 600 400
Grapefruit 530 400 800 500
Lemon 400 300 400 650
Lenat 300 500 500 350
Lime 100 200 400 650
Mandarin 900 600 400 400
Orange 750 800 600 500
Pummelo 500 500 900 500
Sumerbell 850 700 300 500
Tangelo 650 800 500 650
Tangerine 800 750 500 350

This list is not 100% accurate, but seems to fit with my data fairly well (428 data points). I'll try to update it as I get more data this tale. -- Karriellyn

  • If Tangerine Color is changed to 820-822, this chart fits all data currently on the chart except for one possibly-erroneous point. --Numaris 13:02, 11 December 2009 (EST)
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