User:Amenuk/Seed Research

Veggie Seed Research

The tables below display the different conditions that need to be tested for veggie seed growth. I'd appreciate any help you'd like to supply, but please test each condition at a variety of locations to ensure we don't overlook something. As we now know, each person has a "magic tree" that grants onion seeds, but it is one particular tree for each avatar in a given area. If one person tests a condition at a single place, that probably won't be enough to rule out that condition. Please be thorough!

Also, be aware of your surroundings. If you successfully grow a seed while testing, note other conditions that were present at that time.

Phase 1 of the project will include testing "natural" sources for seed growth correlation. I don't want to include testing using player-built items at this time (except the aqueduct since they are tied in closely with veggies). If we can't figure out how to grow seeds from this list, we'll start work on Phase 2 (using player buildings).

Near

Grow your crops near these things. Test every iteration of the condition you can think of and make comments in the appropriate section.

Condition	Comments
Statue	Statue type (god)?
University	University discipline?
School	School Discipline?
Monument	Discipline?
Nile
River
Lake/Pond
Large Stone
Common Altar
Humble Priest Altar
Chariot Stop
Sand
Dirt
Clay
Grass
Rock
Mud
Away from flora	Use Tattoo Helper
Tree	Type?
Aqueduct
A dug hole
Wheat/Malt/Flax/Veggie beds	How many beds?
Flower	Type?
Mushroom(s)	Type and number?
Falcon
Otter
Bullfrog
Gazelle
Ibis
Desert rat
Fennec
Fennec trap
Cicada cage
Cactus

Action Preceding

Grow your crops after doing these things. Test every iteration of the condition you can think of and make comments in the appropriate section.

Condition	Comments
Spouse Warp
Chariot Travel (no TT used)
Chariot Travel (TT used)
Expedition Travel (to Exp. Site)
Expedition Travel (to Home coords)
Gathering mud
Gathering sand
Gathering slate
Finding flint
Gathering clay
Picking grass
Digging
Gathering silt
Gathering dates
Gathering cactus sap
Gathering water	# of jugs?
Growing flax	Include how many beds planted
Growing wheat	Include how many beds planted
Growing vegetable	Include what type/how many beds planted
Growing malt	Include how many beds planted
Firing a bonfire
Smoking hookah
Sacrificing for Vigil
Smashing gravel
Gathering thorns
Picking mushroom(s)	Type and number
Tagging a frog
Tagging a fennec
Checking a fennec trap
Tagging an ibis
Tagging a gazelle
Tagging a falcon
Tagging a desert rat
Tagging an otter
Grabbing a cicada from a cage

Ecology

Test Ecology (as many levels as possible) just before or after you grow your veggies. Make comments in the appropriate section.

Condition	Level	Comments
Heavy Metal Pollution
Soil Acidity
Ground Water Level
Phosphorus Level
Soot Level
Nitrogen Level
Potassium Level
Salinity

Altitude

Grow your veggies at these altitudes and on these terrains. Make comments in the appropriate section. If you successfully grow a seed, please try and narrow the altitude down as much as possible and list the quality of your barometer.

Condition	Barometer Quality	Comments
< 100'
100-200'
200-300'
300-400'
400-500'
500-600'
> 600'

Cabbage

1/2 yields are seen when harvesting next to one person. Different tests are being ruled out; know spouse is not the 1 person to grow next to.

• NOT near 1 herb (Cardamom)
• NOT after getting 8 water from lake
• NOT after gathering 1 slate
• NOT near another crop (carrots)
• NOT after foraging herb and getting insects (Slime Moth 2)
• NOT between 2 herbs (herbs within 3 coords of each other)
• NOT after Navigation waypoint travel
• NOT near CS
• NOT after CS travel (non-TT)
• NOT after CS travel (TT used)
• NOT after eating a meal
• NOT after drinking wine
• NOT near lit, unsmoked hookah
• NOT while smoking hookah
• NOT near mushroom (Dead Tongues)
• NOT after spousewarp
• NOT near school (Arch)
• NOT near university (Worship)
• NOT after gathering sap
• NOT between 2 cacti
• NOT near 1 cactus
• NOT after picking up F Burrowing or F Plains beetle
• NOT near a common altar
• NOT after meditating at a common altar
• NOT after eating masterpiece
• NOT near Essence of Harmony
• NOT near Shrine of Conflict
• NOT near flaming altar
• NOT near a large stone
• NOT empty inventory
• NOT near voting booth
• NOT near the Nile
• NOT near river
• NOT near statue (Seth)
• NOT near base of cliff
• NOT on top of a hill (100 ft)
• NOT far from any flora
• NOT near apiary
• NOT among 15 apiaries
• NOT after gathering silt
• NOT after acro (no facets taught or learned)
• NOT near an expedition site
• NOT after teaching facet in acro
• NOT after learning facet in acro
• NOT near lit student forge
• NOT near ibis
• NOT after tagging ibis
• NOT near wild (M) sheep
• NOT after gathering thorns (marsh grass)
• NOT near running water mine
• NOT near the Nile
• NOT near flax hammock w/ dried flax
• NOT after gathering resin (stout palm)
• NOT after gathering clay
• NOT after gathering flint
• NOT after planting papy
• NOT after harvesting papy
• NOT near dried/drying papy
• NOT near spouse
• NOT near lvl 1 person

Carrots

According to Vegetable Seeds, Apophis said it has something to do with other vegetables. -- (Screenshot)

• NOT near any other veggie being grown
• NOT after eating grilled cabbage, onion, garlic, eggplant, watermelon
• NOT having same veggies (grilled) in inventory
• NOT while grilling carrots, cabbage, garlic
• NOT after taking grilled carrots, cabbage, garlic from a firepit

• NOT near 1 herb (Cardamom)
• NOT after getting 8 water from lake
• NOT after gathering 1 slate
• NOT near another crop (cabbage)
• NOT after foraging herb and getting insects (Slime Moth 2)
• NOT between 2 herbs (herbs within 3 coords of each other)
• NOT after Navigation waypoint travel
• NOT near CS
• NOT after CS travel (non-TT)
• NOT after CS travel (TT used)
• NOT after eating a meal
• NOT after drinking wine
• NOT near lit, unsmoked hookah
• NOT while smoking hookah
• NOT near mushroom (Dead Tongues)
• NOT after spousewarp
• NOT near school (Arch)
• NOT near university (Worship)
• NOT after gathering sap
• NOT between 2 cacti
• NOT near 1 cactus
• NOT after picking up F Burrowing or F Plains beetle
• NOT near a common altar
• NOT after meditating at a common altar
• NOT after eating masterpiece
• NOT near Essence of Harmony
• NOT near Shrine of Conflict
• NOT near flaming altar
• NOT near a large stone
• NOT empty inventory
• NOT near voting booth
• NOT near the Nile
• NOT near river
• NOT near statue (Seth)
• NOT near base of cliff
• NOT on top of a hill (100 ft)
• NOT far from any flora
• NOT near apiary
• NOT among 15 apiaries
• NOT after gathering silt
• NOT after acro (no facets taught or learned)
• NOT near an expedition site
• NOT after teaching facet in acro
• NOT after learning facet in acro
• NOT near lit student forge
• NOT near ibis
• NOT after tagging ibis
• NOT near wild (M) sheep
• NOT after gathering thorns (marsh grass)
• NOT near running water mine
• NOT near the Nile
• NOT near flax hammock w/ dried flax
• NOT after gathering resin (stout palm)
• NOT after gathering clay
• NOT after gathering flint
• NOT after 3, 6, 9, 12 shrink/grow cycles
• NOT after planting papy
• NOT after harvesting papy
• NOT near dried/drying papy
• NOT near spouse
• NOT near humble priest's altar
• NOT near dried/drying grass
• NOT near dried/drying flax
• NOT near unlit/burning bonfire
• NOT near sulphurous water
• NOT near bullfrog
• NOT after tagging bullfrog
• NOT over 600'
• NOT near operating steam shovel
• NOT near deep well
• NOT after repairing basket
• NOT near emerald/ruby/sapphire torches
• NOT after lighting emerald/ruby/sapphire torches
• NOT after harvesting honey/beeswax

Cucumbers

NOTE from T4 wiki: Harvest near a lit, but unsmoked hookah. NOT CONFIRMED FOR T6.

Eggplant

Nothing found yet.

Garlic

• NOT after spousewarp
• NOT gather slate
• NOT gather water
• NOT near lake
• NOT near herb (Garlic Chives)
• NOT between 2 herbs (herbs within 3 coords of each other)
• NOT after gathering sap
• NOT between 2 cacti
• NOT near 1 cactus
• NOT near another crop (leeks)
• NOT near barrel cactus
• NOT amid barrel cacti
• NOT near fennec trap
• NOT near signs of (bushy-tail) fennec
• NOT after picking up F Burrowing beetle
• NOT near essence of harmony
• NOT near common altar
• NOT after meditating at common altar
• NOT near flaming altar
• NOT near a large stone
• NOT empty inventory
• NOT near the Nile
• NOT near pyramid (deep oceans)
• NOT far from any flora
• NOT on a hilltop
• NOT on a peninsula or bridge
• NOT near statue (Lion)
• NOT after acro (no facets taught or learned)
• NOT after teaching facet in acro
• NOT after learning facet in acro
• NOT near ibis
• NOT after tagging ibis
• NOT near detonation box
• NOT near a bonfire
• NOT after gathering resin (stout palm)
• NOT after gathering clay
• NOT after gathering flint
• NOT after 3, 6, 9, 12 shrink/grow cycles
• NOT after planting papy
• NOT after harvesting papy
• NOT near dried/drying papy
• NOT near a mushroom (Nile Fire)
• NOT near dried/drying grass
• NOT near dried/drying flax
• NOT near unlit/burning bonfire
• NOT near sulphurous water
• NOT near bullfrog
• NOT after tagging bullfrog
• NOT after eating a masterpiece meal
• NOT 0-100'
• NOT 100-200'
• NOT 200-300'
• NOT 300-400'
• NOT 400-500'
• NOT 500-600'
• NOT over 600'
• NOT near operating steam shovel
• NOT near deep well
• NOT after repairing basket
• NOT near emerald/ruby/sapphire torches
• NOT after lighting emerald/ruby/sapphire torches
• NOT after harvesting honey/beeswax
• NOT near a Pyramid of the People
• NOT after gathering DR, PoT mushrooms
• NOT near a mine

Leeks

• NOT after spousewarp
• NOT gather slate
• NOT gather water
• NOT near lake
• NOT near herb (Garlic Chives)
• NOT between 2 herbs (herbs within 3 coords of each other)
• NOT after gathering sap
• NOT between 2 cacti
• NOT near 1 cactus
• NOT near another crop (garlic)
• NOT near barrel cactus
• NOT amid barrel cacti
• NOT near fennec trap
• NOT near signs of (bushy-tail) fennec
• NOT after picking up F Burrowing beetle
• NOT near essence of harmony
• NOT near common altar
• NOT after meditating at common altar
• NOT near flaming altar
• NOT near a large stone
• NOT empty inventory
• NOT near the Nile
• NOT near pyramid (deep oceans)
• NOT far from any flora
• NOT on a hilltop
• NOT on a peninsula or bridge
• NOT near statue (Lion)
• NOT after acro (no facets taught or learned)
• NOT after teaching facet in acro
• NOT after learning facet in acro
• NOT near ibis
• NOT after tagging ibis
• NOT near detonation box
• NOT near a bonfire
• NOT after gathering resin (stout palm)
• NOT after gathering clay
• NOT after gathering flint
• NOT after 3, 6, 9, 12 shrink/grow cycles
• NOT after planting papy
• NOT after harvesting papy
• NOT near dried/drying papy
• NOT near a mushroom (Nile Fire)
• NOT near dried/drying grass
• NOT near dried/drying flax
• NOT near unlit/burning bonfire
• NOT near sulphurous water
• NOT near bullfrog
• NOT after tagging bullfrog
• NOT after eating a masterpiece meal
• NOT 0-100'
• NOT 100-200'
• NOT 200-300'
• NOT 300-400'
• NOT 400-500'
• NOT 500-600'
• NOT over 600'
• NOT near operating steam shovel
• NOT near deep well
• NOT after repairing basket
• NOT near emerald/ruby/sapphire torches
• NOT after lighting emerald/ruby/sapphire torches
• NOT after harvesting honey/beeswax
• NOT near a Pyramid of the People
• NOT after gathering DR, PoT mushrooms
• NOT near a mine

Peppers

Nothing found yet.

Watermelon

NOTE from T5 wiki: A seed is gained after picking up a wild beetle. There is no time limit on this. It is a "switch" like the onion seed. Others have said this process did not work for them. THIS HAS NOT BEEN CONFIRMED FOR T6.