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<!-- ******* CARMELIZATION ******* --> | <!-- ******* CARMELIZATION ******* --> | ||
| − | |rowspan=" | + | |rowspan="6"| Carmelization |
| − | |rowspan=" | + | |rowspan="6"| Carmelization |
| Butter ||align="right"| 0 || | | Butter ||align="right"| 0 || | ||
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| + | | Butterscotch ||align="right"| 1 || {{5ok}} | ||
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| + | | Honey ||align="right"| ? || | ||
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| Molasses ||align="right"| 1 || | | Molasses ||align="right"| 1 || | ||
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| − | | Chocolate ||align="right"| 2 || | + | | Chocolate ||align="right"| 2 || {{5ok}} |
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| Soy Sauce ||align="right"| 2 || | | Soy Sauce ||align="right"| 2 || | ||
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<!-- ******* CHEMICALS ******* --> | <!-- ******* CHEMICALS ******* --> | ||
| − | |rowspan=" | + | |rowspan="16"|Chemicals |
|rowspan="2"| Odd Chemicals | |rowspan="2"| Odd Chemicals | ||
| − | | Fish ||align="right"| 4 || | + | | Fish ||align="right"| 4 || {{5ok}} |
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| Soap ||align="right"| 7 || | | Soap ||align="right"| 7 || | ||
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|rowspan="3"| Petroleum | |rowspan="3"| Petroleum | ||
| − | | Tar ||align="right"| 1 || See (3) below | + | | Tar ||align="right"| 1 || {{5ok}} See (3) below |
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| Kerosene ||align="right"| 8 || | | Kerosene ||align="right"| 8 || | ||
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| Ethyl Acetate ||align="right"| 5 || | | Ethyl Acetate ||align="right"| 5 || | ||
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| − | | rowspan=" | + | | rowspan="6"|Sulfur |
| Wet Wool ||align="right"| 4 || See (2) below | | Wet Wool ||align="right"| 4 || See (2) below | ||
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| Hydrogen Sulfide ||align="right"| 8 || | | Hydrogen Sulfide ||align="right"| 8 || | ||
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| + | | Mercaptan || align="right"| 4 || | ||
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<!-- ******* EARTHYNESS ******* --> | <!-- ******* EARTHYNESS ******* --> | ||
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<!-- ******* FRUIT ******* --> | <!-- ******* FRUIT ******* --> | ||
| − | |rowspan=" | + | |rowspan="13"| Fruit |
| + | |rowspan="2"| Citrus Notes | ||
| + | | Grapefruit ||align="right"| 1 || {{5ok}} | ||
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| + | | Lemon ||align="right"| 1 || {{5ok}} | ||
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|rowspan="2"| Berries | |rowspan="2"| Berries | ||
| Raspberry ||align="right"| 0 || | | Raspberry ||align="right"| 0 || | ||
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| Cherry ||align="right"| 0 || | | Cherry ||align="right"| 0 || | ||
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| − | | Peach ||align="right"| 0 || | + | | Peach ||align="right"| 0 || {{5ok}} |
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| Apricot ||align="right"| 1 || | | Apricot ||align="right"| 1 || | ||
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|rowspan="2"| Tropical Fruit | |rowspan="2"| Tropical Fruit | ||
| − | | Banana ||align="right"| 0 || | + | | Banana ||align="right"| 0 || {{5ok}} |
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| Pineapple ||align="right"| 1 || | | Pineapple ||align="right"| 1 || | ||
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| Hazelnut ||align="right"| 0 || | | Hazelnut ||align="right"| 0 || | ||
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| − | | Walnut ||align="right"| 4 || On Flavor Listing page so added here | + | | Walnut ||align="right"| 4 || {{5ok}} On Flavor Listing page so added here |
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|rowspan="2"| Pungency | |rowspan="2"| Pungency | ||
|rowspan="1"| Coolness | |rowspan="1"| Coolness | ||
| − | | Menthol ||align="right"| 0 || | + | | Menthol ||align="right"| 0 || {{5ok}} |
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|rowspan="1"| Heat | |rowspan="1"| Heat | ||
| − | | Hot Alcohol || align="right"| 0 || | + | | Hot Alcohol || align="right"| 0 || {{5ok}} |
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<!-- ******* SPICYNESS ******* --> | <!-- ******* SPICYNESS ******* --> | ||
|rowspan="2"| Spicyness | |rowspan="2"| Spicyness | ||
|rowspan="2"| Spicyness | |rowspan="2"| Spicyness | ||
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| − | | Licorice || align="right"| | + | | Licorice || align="right"| 7 || |
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<!-- ******* VEGETABLES ******* --> | <!-- ******* VEGETABLES ******* --> | ||
| − | |rowspan=" | + | |rowspan="11"| Vegetables |
| − | |rowspan=" | + | |rowspan="5"| Cooked Notes |
| Asparagus||align="right"| 1 || | | Asparagus||align="right"| 1 || | ||
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| + | | Green Beans ||align="right"| 1 || {{5ok}} | ||
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| Green Olives ||align="right"| 1 || | | Green Olives ||align="right"| 1 || | ||
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| − | | Artichoke||align="right"| 2 || | + | | Artichoke||align="right"| 2 || {{5ok}} 'picked it up at 5 vin old' |
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| Black Olives ||align="right"| 3 || | | Black Olives ||align="right"| 3 || | ||
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|rowspan="4"| Freshness | |rowspan="4"| Freshness | ||
| − | | Bell Pepper ||align="right"| 0 || | + | | Bell Pepper ||align="right"| 0 || {{5ok}} |
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| Mint ||align="right"| 1 || | | Mint ||align="right"| 1 || | ||
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| Eucalyptus ||align="right"| 2 || | | Eucalyptus ||align="right"| 2 || | ||
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| + | | Stemmy ||align="right"|0 || see (8) below {{5ok}} | ||
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|rowspan="2"| Deep dried notes | |rowspan="2"| Deep dried notes | ||
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| − | |rowspan=" | + | |rowspan="4"| Woodiness |
| − | |rowspan=" | + | |rowspan="2"| Burned Smells |
| − | | Smoke ||align="right"| 0 || | + | | Smoke ||align="right"| 0 || {{5ok}} |
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| + | | Burnt Toast ||align="right"| 2 || | ||
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|rowspan="2"| Resin | |rowspan="2"| Resin | ||
| Cedar ||align="right"| 1 || | | Cedar ||align="right"| 1 || | ||
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# I now have two vineyards that have a "Spicyness" flavor, but do not resolve to the Tier 3 flavor. I am growing more grapes with a higher quality and covering more of the area to track down the exact flavor - Telanoc | # I now have two vineyards that have a "Spicyness" flavor, but do not resolve to the Tier 3 flavor. I am growing more grapes with a higher quality and covering more of the area to track down the exact flavor - Telanoc | ||
# After drinking the same Spicyness wine a few times on different glasses I found Licorice on a 9204 quality glass, the wine is 28 vintages old though - EvilSnowman | # After drinking the same Spicyness wine a few times on different glasses I found Licorice on a 9204 quality glass, the wine is 28 vintages old though - EvilSnowman | ||
| + | # {{5ok}} 95% certain this flavor goes here. It's vegetables for sure. I got 'Stemmy and Bell Peppers', 'Stemmy and Freshness', 'Freshness and Vegetables', and 'Vegetables' at different glass qualities. - [[User:KasumiGhia|KasumiGhia]] | ||
== Reading The Flavor Chart == | == Reading The Flavor Chart == | ||
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* If a wine only has the Green Beans flavor in it, it will report as Thin until it is 1 vintage old (not giving the Vegetable or Freshness flavors). | * If a wine only has the Green Beans flavor in it, it will report as Thin until it is 1 vintage old (not giving the Vegetable or Freshness flavors). | ||
* Bell Pepper, on the other hand, will show Vegetable, Freshness, and Bell Pepper flavors on different glasses starting at 0 vintages old. | * Bell Pepper, on the other hand, will show Vegetable, Freshness, and Bell Pepper flavors on different glasses starting at 0 vintages old. | ||
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| + | == Aromatic Honey and citruses == | ||
| + | [http:///Users/SAV/Dropbox/Public/E.A.S.Y. Honeys and Citruses.htm] | ||
== Related Pages == | == Related Pages == | ||
* [[Wine/Flavors By Vintage|Wine Flavors By Vintage]] | * [[Wine/Flavors By Vintage|Wine Flavors By Vintage]] | ||
* [[User:Darien/Flavor-Chart | Flavor Listing]] - Listing of flavors people currently have. Looking for certain flavors to finish up a wine book and can't find them? Look no further!! Also, feel free to add your flavors today! | * [[User:Darien/Flavor-Chart | Flavor Listing]] - Listing of flavors people currently have. Looking for certain flavors to finish up a wine book and can't find them? Look no further!! Also, feel free to add your flavors today! | ||
| + | * [[User:Zildjan/Flavor-Chart | Known Flavor locations]] - Listing of flavors people currently have. Looking for certain flavors to finish up a wine book and can't find them? Look no further!! Also, feel free to add your flavors today! | ||
* [[Wine/Flavors/T3|T3 Flavors]] - archived to reduce confusion/page length | * [[Wine/Flavors/T3|T3 Flavors]] - archived to reduce confusion/page length | ||
Latest revision as of 16:39, 29 August 2011
T4 Flavors
| Taste Category (Tier 1) |
Primary Tastes (Tier 2) |
Secondary Tastes (Tier 3) |
Vintage | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Carmelization | Carmelization | Butter | 0 | |
| Butterscotch | 1 | 
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| Honey | ? | |||
| Molasses | 1 | |||
| Chocolate | 2 |
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| Soy Sauce | 2 | |||
| Chemicals | Odd Chemicals | Fish | 4 |
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| Soap | 7 | |||
| Paper | Filter Pads | 7 | ||
| Petroleum | Tar | 1 | See (3) below
| |
| Kerosene | 8 | |||
| Diesel | 9 or 10 | |||
| Pungency | Ethanol | 0 | ||
| Sharp Sulfur | 1 (or 3?) | See (5) below. | ||
| Acetic Acid | 3 | See (1) below. | ||
| Ethyl Acetate | 5 | |||
| Sulfur | Wet Wool | 4 | See (2) below | |
| Burnt Matches | 6 | |||
| Skunk | 6 | |||
| Cabbage | 7 | |||
| Hydrogen Sulfide | 8 | |||
| Mercaptan | 4 | |||
| Earthyness | Earthyness | Mushrooms | 1 | |
| Dust | 4 | |||
| Moldyness | Mildew | 14 | ||
| Floral Notes | Floral Notes | Orange Blossoms | 0 | |
| Linalool | 1 | |||
| Roses | 1 | |||
| Geraniums | 3 | See (4) below | ||
| Fruit | Citrus Notes | Grapefruit | 1 |
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| Lemon | 1 |
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| Berries | Raspberry | 0 | ||
| Cassis | 6 | See (2) below | ||
| Dried Fruit | Raisin | 5 | ||
| Strawberry Jam | 6 | |||
| Odd Fruit | Artificial Fruit | 7 | ||
| Tree Fruit | Cherry | 0 | ||
| Peach | 0 |
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| Apricot | 1 | |||
| Apple | 3 | |||
| Tropical Fruit | Banana | 0 |
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| Pineapple | 1 | |||
| Microbiological Smells | Animal Smells | Horsey Smells | 4 | |
| Mousey Smells | 7 | |||
| Lactic Acid | Saurkraut | 4 | Tier 2 confirmed | |
| Yeast | Leesy | 2 | ||
| Buteric Acid | ? | 0 or 1 | Unsure if 2nd or 3rd Tier | |
| Nuttiness | Nuttiness | Almond | 0 | |
| Hazelnut | 0 | |||
| Walnut | 4 | On Flavor Listing page so added here
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| Oxidation | Oxidation | Acetaldehyde | 9 | |
| Pungency | Coolness | Menthol | 0 |
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| Heat | Hot Alcohol | 0 |
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| Spicyness | Spicyness | Cloves | 7 | |
| Licorice | 7 | |||
| Vegetables | Cooked Notes | Asparagus | 1 | |
| Green Beans | 1 |
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| Green Olives | 1 | |||
| Artichoke | 2 | 'picked it up at 5 vin old'
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| Black Olives | 3 | |||
| Freshness | Bell Pepper | 0 |
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| Mint | 1 | |||
| Eucalyptus | 2 | |||
| Stemmy | 0 | see (8) below
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| Deep dried notes | Straw | 3 | ||
| Tobacco | 6 | |||
| Woodiness | Burned Smells | Smoke | 0 |
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| Burnt Toast | 2 | |||
| Resin | Cedar | 1 | ||
| Oak | 1 |
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Notes
- Acetic Acid was seen on an 8.7k glass, but it could be a Primary rather than Secondary taste. Only Chemicals were on the lower glasses. Edit: got Pungency as the 2nd flavor on a different Acetic Acid yard with a 4573 quality glass.
- I also saw only chemicals (5773 glass) and acetic acid(6455 and 9044 glasses), but its possible acetic acid is the middle flavour and we're missing the top - Spicy
- Updated: After further tasting I must have had an error in my tasting notes. It is clear now that sharp sulfur is a tier 3 as shown. This also matches the T3 chart so it makes more sense. (From my tests, I believe Sharp Sulfur is the middle flavor, but it could be Chemicals->Acetic Acid->Sharp Sulfur) - Omari
- The tier 2 flavors didn't show up on these on my table, so pulled them from the T3 wiki-Tedra
- Tar is the top level flavour I saw on a 9k glass, petroleum is the middle flavour that I saw on 5.5k glass - Spicy
- Geraniums seen in wine at 3 vints old, but not tested at 2 vints - Spicy Can confirm 3-Tedra
- This was seen in T3 as vintage 1, can anyone confirm this is true for T4? I have a pungency flavour detected at vintage 3 and suspect this might be it. - Linalia
- I now have two vineyards that have a "Spicyness" flavor, but do not resolve to the Tier 3 flavor. I am growing more grapes with a higher quality and covering more of the area to track down the exact flavor - Telanoc
- After drinking the same Spicyness wine a few times on different glasses I found Licorice on a 9204 quality glass, the wine is 28 vintages old though - EvilSnowman
95% certain this flavor goes here. It's vegetables for sure. I got 'Stemmy and Bell Peppers', 'Stemmy and Freshness', 'Freshness and Vegetables', and 'Vegetables' at different glass qualities. - KasumiGhia
Reading The Flavor Chart
Vintage indicates how old the wine was when the flavor first appeared in the wine.
- If a wine contains flavors that have not developed at the wine's current vintage age, those flavors will not be detectable when the wine is tasted.
- If no flavors are detectable, a wine will report as Thin and not give tasting checks for quality.
- As the wine ages and flavors come in, the wine will stop being Thin.
Note: It is the age on the Secondary Taste that brings the flavor in, not the Taste Category or Primary Taste.
For example:
- Bell Pepper (0) and Green Beans (1) are both Vegetable/Freshness flavors.
- If a wine only has the Green Beans flavor in it, it will report as Thin until it is 1 vintage old (not giving the Vegetable or Freshness flavors).
- Bell Pepper, on the other hand, will show Vegetable, Freshness, and Bell Pepper flavors on different glasses starting at 0 vintages old.
Aromatic Honey and citruses
Related Pages
- Wine Flavors By Vintage
- Flavor Listing - Listing of flavors people currently have. Looking for certain flavors to finish up a wine book and can't find them? Look no further!! Also, feel free to add your flavors today!
- Known Flavor locations - Listing of flavors people currently have. Looking for certain flavors to finish up a wine book and can't find them? Look no further!! Also, feel free to add your flavors today!
- T3 Flavors - archived to reduce confusion/page length
