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| − | + | Start by inputing actual week's voids : in the green column (on the right, under title "daily voids") replace '''1''' by '''0''' for all active voids. | |
| + | Then, you just need to run the simulations ONLY in the grey part on the left : do not modify yellow parts ! Thats where computations are done ; those tables hold the same information than the one you see on yout thistle garden. You just need to modify the grey part to try to find a nice recipe. | ||
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| − | + | == How to determine actual voids == | |
| + | You will need to do several tests. Choose a period of the day where sun does not change : for example midnight (for the night tests) and 11 am for daily tests. | ||
| + | You will need to have thistlesim open at the same time as you run 1 of your garden, so you can compare results. | ||
| − | + | * If its midnight : run 1 garden and put 0 as Sun value on thistlesim. If its daytime, you will need to do the test twice : 1 with sun 33 (close the | |
| − | + | ** At tick 0 add 3 H2O, 3 OXY | |
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| + | Follow progression on garden and on thistlesim. Adjust voids on thistlesim, until you get same results as on the garden. | ||
* Lancez un jardin avec 3 eaux et 3 oxy ; si c'est le jour, faites 2 essais : l'un avec le rideau baissé (soleil 33) et l'autre avec le rideau levé (soleil 99). Suivez la progression des concentrations en gardant en parallèle ThistleSim ouvert. Cela devrait déjà vous permettre de déterminer les premiers voids simples en faisant des essais sur la colonne verte jusqu'à obtenir le bon résultat. | * Lancez un jardin avec 3 eaux et 3 oxy ; si c'est le jour, faites 2 essais : l'un avec le rideau baissé (soleil 33) et l'autre avec le rideau levé (soleil 99). Suivez la progression des concentrations en gardant en parallèle ThistleSim ouvert. Cela devrait déjà vous permettre de déterminer les premiers voids simples en faisant des essais sur la colonne verte jusqu'à obtenir le bon résultat. | ||
Revision as of 15:50, 11 October 2010
Adapted and / or translated from Dresdor's Guide and from Ephemere french guide.
Silk
Thistles are used to feed silk worms to produce silk and can be given to sheeps. It seems that best output is obtained by putting 1K thistles in each Silk farm.
Thistles bases
Before going on with this guide, make sure you understand the bases. You can read this nice guide written by Dresdor to understand the bases [[http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Dresdor%27s_Thistle_Guide ]]
ThistleSim
One tool you're gonna need a lot is a thistle recipes simulator. It can be found here : http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/Image:ThistleSim.zip
Its an Excel worksheet with 45 sheets ... Don't get impressed, you'll mainly need "Master".
Start by inputing actual week's voids : in the green column (on the right, under title "daily voids") replace 1 by 0 for all active voids. Then, you just need to run the simulations ONLY in the grey part on the left : do not modify yellow parts ! Thats where computations are done ; those tables hold the same information than the one you see on yout thistle garden. You just need to modify the grey part to try to find a nice recipe.
How to determine actual voids
You will need to do several tests. Choose a period of the day where sun does not change : for example midnight (for the night tests) and 11 am for daily tests. You will need to have thistlesim open at the same time as you run 1 of your garden, so you can compare results.
- If its midnight : run 1 garden and put 0 as Sun value on thistlesim. If its daytime, you will need to do the test twice : 1 with sun 33 (close the
- At tick 0 add 3 H2O, 3 OXY
Follow progression on garden and on thistlesim. Adjust voids on thistlesim, until you get same results as on the garden.
- Lancez un jardin avec 3 eaux et 3 oxy ; si c'est le jour, faites 2 essais : l'un avec le rideau baissé (soleil 33) et l'autre avec le rideau levé (soleil 99). Suivez la progression des concentrations en gardant en parallèle ThistleSim ouvert. Cela devrait déjà vous permettre de déterminer les premiers voids simples en faisant des essais sur la colonne verte jusqu'à obtenir le bon résultat.
- Ce deuxième test vous permettra de préciser les choses : relancez votre jardin avec 3 Nit, 3 Pot, 3 eaux et 3 oxy (de jour il est conseillé de faire le test à 33 et 99 soleil)
- Au tick 10, ajoutez 4 Nit, 4 Pot et 5 Oxy
- Au tick 20, ajoutez 4 Nit, 4 Pot et 5 eaux
- Au tick 25, ajoutez 3 oxy
- Au tick 30, ajoutez 4 Nit, 4 Pot et 5 oxy
- Au tick 35, ajoutez 3 eaux
Ce dernier test devrait vous permettre de finaliser les voids en poursuivant les essais sur la colonne verte. N'hésitez pas à me contacter sur le jeu si vous avez des questions.
