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Fishing Guide
General Information
You need to find insects to build a lure to fish.
Three skills are necessary:
- Fly Fishing from the School of Body to build the fly fishing rod (a rod is given to you upon learning the skill
- Arthropodology from the School of Worship to find insects while doing random activities in game
- Fly Tying from the School of Worship to build the lure
Making a lure requires an insect, 2 Thread, and 1 Thorn. It is built by going to the Skills menu and clicking Fly Tying.
Results
If you are lucky, and are using an effective combination of lure, location, and time, you will catch a fish, which will immediately go into your inventory.
Failure messages include one of the following (the precise meaning of the various failure messages is still being worked out):
- "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations."
- "You didn't catch anything. Try different lures and locations."
- "You almost caught an odd fish, but you were too late recognizing the bite."
- "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough."
- "You almost caught a strange fish, but this rod was just too clumbsy"
Additionally, there is a small chance of losing your lure with each failure.
Standing in one spot, over about 15 casts with the same lure, I received two of the different failure messages, "No fish bit..." and "You didn't catch anything..." But I also caught 5 different fish (Catfish, Perch, Chromis, Catfish, Carp). So getting a failure message isn't indicative of no fish in the area.
Skill Costs
| Skill | School | Degree | Level to learn | Cost |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fly Fishing | Body | First | 1 | 16 Thread, 1 Sharpened Stick |
| Arthropodology | Worship | First | 2 | 100 Dirt |
| Second | 5 | 200 Tadpoles | ||
| Third | 8 | 300 Beeswax | ||
| Fourth | 11 | 400 Cactus Sap | ||
| Fly Tying | Worship | First | 3 | 100 Thread, 25 Thorns |
| Second | 6 | 7 Nippleworm, 7 Pickel Slug, 7 Leafhopper, 7 Fruit Maggot, 7 Woolly Aphid, 7 Slime Moth, 7 Rose Mite | ||
| Third | 9 | 14 Footworm, 14 Clay Slug, 14 Snowberry Butterfly, 14 Woodmoth, 14 Red Cricket, 14 Honey Fly, 14 Skinlicker | ||
| Filleting | Worship | First | 3 | 7 Knife Blade, 7 Phagrus Meat, 20 Common Basil |
| Second | ? | 3 Sharp Edged Blade, 14 Oxyrynchus Meat, 25 Salt, 77 Glass Jars |
Insects
There are rumored to be 49 different species of Insects, split into 7 different classes.
- Ash centipede
- Blister Beetle
- Bloodworm
- Bristleworm
- Clay Slug
- Corkscrew Asp
- Desert Millipede
- Dew Fly
- Feather Midge
- Footworm
- Fruit Maggot
- Glass Worm
- Golden Asp
- Grass Slug
- Hairy Slug
- Honey Fly
- Horned Hookworm
- Leaf Hopper
- Mud Asp
- Needleworm
- Nippleworm
- Orchid Hopper
- Oyster Mite
- Pickel Slug
- Queen Maggot
- Red Cricket
- Ringed Wasp
- Rose Mite
- Ruby Hornborrer
- Salt Mite
- Sand Mite
- Skinlicker
- Slime Moth
- Snowberry Butterfly
- Spittlebug
- Stonefly
- White Mealybug
- White Sawfly
- Woodmoth
- Woolly Aphid
With the Arthropodology skill, can find insects while: Water mining, picking papyrus, collecting wood, thorns, slate, mud, dirt, harvesting flax, diving for pearls, carving wood, foraging, slaughtering sheep
Achievements
- Found all 7 Tree Dwelling insects.--merek
- Found all 7 Ground Dwelling insects.--meriamon
- Found all 7 Water Dwelling Insects. -- NecasT
Notes
Some BETA experiences (from Detour):
I went out fishing with 2 Red cricket (Fresh) lures. Hopped to about 6 different locations and cast about 10 times before losing both lures with no fish caught. I was getting the messages, "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations," or, "No fish bit. You also lost your lure. Try different lures and locations."
Next I used a Woodmoth (Fresh) lure. I caught 3 fish before losing it. They were 7, 6, and 6 deben Malapterurus. I was standing at 777, -1428 at around 6:26 AM game time. I lost the lure on the same cast as catching a fish and didn't get a notice about it. It just disappeared from my inventory.
(Tanafri: On a successful fish catch, as I understand it, you will always lose the lure.)
(Haraelendil: you don't always loose you lure on a succesfull catch)
Finally, I used a Wooly aphid (Fresh) lure. I got to cast it about 3 times from different locations before I lost it with no fish caught.
Some LIVE experiences (from Detour):
Location: -48, -2148
Time: Afternoon, 12 - 3 PM, roughly.
| Lure | Casts | Fish | Size in debens |
| " | Abdju | 4 | |
| Ringed Wasp (Glazed) | 9 | Catfish | 2 |
| " | Abdju | 1 | |
| Ringed Wasp (Fresh) | 3 | - | - |
| Mud Asp (Glazed) | 11 | Carp | 2 |
| " | Perch | 2 | |
| " | Catfish | 2 | |
| Mud Asp (Fresh) | 1 | - | - |
| Orchid Hopper (Glazed) | 17 | Tilapia | 3 |
| " | Chromis | 2 | |
| " | Abdju | 1 | |
| " | Tilapia | 1 | |
| Red Cricket (Glazed) | 2 | Perch | 2 |
| Sand Mite (Glazed) | 15 | Catfish | 6 |
| " | "Unusual" 4 times | ||
| Slime Moth (Glazed) | 35 | Catfish | 2 |
| " | Catfish | 1 | |
| " | Catfish | 1 |
+2 Speed test - from Grilled Cabbage
Location: -48, -2148
Time: Afternoon, 4:30 - 6:00 PM, roughly.
| Lure | Casts | Fish | Size in debens |
| Sand Mite (Glazed) | 24 | Catfish | 6 |
| " | Abdju | 3 | |
| " | Chromis | 1 | |
| " | Catfish | 1 | |
| " | Abdju | 1 | |
| " | Chromis | 1 | |
| " | Catfish | 1 | |
| " | "Unusual" 1 time | ||
| Sand Mite (Glazed) | 9 | Abdju | 1 |
| " | "Unusual" 1 time | ||
| Sand Mite (Glazed) | 44 | Catfish | 1 |
| " | Chromis | 1 | |
| " | Abdju | 1 | |
| " | Catfish | 1 | |
| " | Chromis | 1 | |
| " | "Unusual" 3 times | ||
| " | "Odd" 1 time | ||
| Spittlebug (Glazed) | 3 | - | - |
| Spittlebug (Glazed) | 7 | Carp | 3 |
| " | Ayu | 1 | |
| " | Ayu | 1 | |
| Spittlebug (Glazed) | 9 | - | - |
Kaayru: I was fishing at a small pond in Sterope (1626 -697) at 1:25pm. Got the message "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough." - Is speed a factor?
tehm: there is also a "You almost caught an odd fish, but were too late recognizing the bite" message. I tried Grilled Garlic (+foc)- no observable change. Next tried Grilled Carrots (+per) and was still getting the message. Maybe "recognizing" means "snaring" rather than "identifying" and Dex or Speed is needed to "recognize"?
(Tanafri: it's not the *fish* you're not recognizing, but the bite on the line.)
MynxFellswipe: It seems that fish size (in deben) decreases over time. I initially caught a 27db Ayu at 10pm, then gradually smaller (26, 25, 24...) as the hour passed. I had someone else fish next to me after some time. His fish sizes also started around the 26db mark and decreased steadily.
Saluk: I used Orchid Hopper to catch several 1db river crab in one spot (759 -5608) at around 6pm. Always 1db. Switched to Wooly Aphid and immediately caught a 5db river crab. Caught several more 5db with wooly aphid. The lure type definitely affects the size.
Tanafri: Fish has a bulk of 20, regardless of weight.
Which lure for which fish
| Lure Type | Time of Day | Fish Caught | Region |
| Ash Centipede (Fresh) | 8:40 pm | Catfish, Carp | |
| Bat Mite (Glazed) | 8:30 am | Nile Mackerel | |
| Blister Beetle (Fresh) | unknown | Hylian Loach | |
| Blister Beetle (Fresh) | 8:45 pm | Ayu | |
| Bloodworm (Fresh) | unknown | River Crab | |
| Clay Slug (Fresh) | 10:30pm | Catfish, Cromis, Spiny Dogfish | |
| Footworm (Fresh) | unknown | Catfish | |
| Footworm (Glazed) | 9:30 am | Tigerfish | |
| Fruit Maggot (Fresh) | unknown | White Oniontail | |
| Glass Worm (Fresh) | 5:28 AM | Pancake Loach, River Crab (1db) | |
| Glass Worm (Fresh) | unknown | Catfish, Phragrus | |
| Glass Worm (Fresh) | 11pm | River Crab | |
| Glass Worm (Fresh) | 1:10p | Tigerfish | |
| Glass Worm (Fresh) | 2:26p | Carp | Sinai |
| Golden Asp (Fresh) | 1:55AM, 2:05AM | Ayu, Phagrus | |
| Grass Slug (Fresh) | unknown | Hylian Loach | |
| Grass Slug (Fresh) | unknown | River Crab | |
| Horned Hookworm (Fresh) | 9:45pm | Tilapia | Celaeno |
| Horned Hookworm (Fresh) | 5:31am | Perch | |
| Honey Fly (Fresh) | unknown | Ayu | |
| Mud Asp (Fresh) | 6:20 AM | Moonfish | |
| Mud Asp (Fresh) | unknown | Catfish | |
| Mud Asp (Fresh) | 1:40 AM | Carp, Perch, Chromis | |
| Mud Asp (Glazed) | 4:15 AM | Carp, Perch, Chromis | |
| Needleworm(Fresh) | 2:14pm | Abdju | Sinai |
| Nippleworm (Fresh) | unknown | Catfish | |
| Nippleworm (Fresh) | 6:47 pm | Nile Mackerel | |
| Orchid Hopper (Fresh) | 6:30 AM | Bay Lobster | |
| Orchid Hopper (Fresh) | 5:30 PM | River Crab | |
| Orchid Hopper (Fresh) | 4:50 PM | Chromis | |
| Orchid Hopper (Fresh) | 10:11pm | River Crab (33 db) | |
| Orchid Hopper (Fresh) | 4:46pm | Tilapia | |
| Orchid Hopper (Fresh) | 4:46pm | Abdju | |
| Orchid Hopper (Fresh) | 6:00 PM | River Crab 5db | |
| Orchid Hopper (Fresh) | 10:00 PM | River Crab 22db | |
| Orchid Hopper (Glazed) | 5:30 AM | Tilapia | |
| Oyster Mite (Fresh) | unknown | Hylian Loach | |
| Oyster Mite (Fresh) | unknown | Malapterurus | |
| Pickle Slug(Fresh) | unknown | Catfish | |
| Pickle Slug(Fresh) | 11am | Catfish | |
| Pickle Slug(Fresh) | 7:30pm | Abdju | Sinai |
| Pickle Slug(Fresh) | 10:15pm | Catfish 2db | |
| Pickle Slug(Fresh) | 12:30am | Phagrus | Celaeno |
| Pickle Slug(Preserved) | 3:45am | Bay Lobster | |
| Queen Maggot (Fresh) | 1:40AM | Spiky Dogfish | |
| Red Cricket(Fresh) | 1:25pm | Tilapia | Sinai |
| Ringed Wasp (Fresh) | 11:13pm | River Crab, Catfish, Nile Mackerel | |
| Ringed Wasp (Fresh) | 4:30pm | Abdju, Catfish | |
| Sand Mite (Fresh) | 12:30PM, 12:43PM | Tigerfish, White Oniontail | |
| Slime Moth (Fresh) | unknown | Bay Lobster | |
| Spittle Bug (Fresh) | 4:10PM, 7:30 PM, 11:50 PM | Ayu | |
| Spittle Bug (Fresh) | unknown | Catfish | |
| Spittle Bug (Fresh) | 6:30am, 4:20pm | Carp, Chromis | unknown, Sinai |
| Spittle Bug (Glazed) | 3:30am | Carp | |
| White Mealybug(Fresh) | 6:30am | Carp | Sinai |
| Wooly Aphid (Fresh) | 6pm, 10pm | River Crab | |
| Wooly Aphid (Fresh) | 6:30 AM | Pancake Loach (Fresh) |
Fish Scales
| Scale Color | Fish Type | Time until Fillet (real time) |
| Black | Ayu, Catfish, Perch, River Crab, Spiny Dogfish, White Oniontail, Carp | ? |
| Brown | Catfish | ? |
| Crimson | Catfish | ? |
| Dark Gray | Ayu, Abdju | ? |
| Dark Turquoise | Spiny Dogfish | ? |
| Dark Green | Bay Lobster, Tigerfish | < 5mins |
| Dark Khaki | White Oniontail | ? |
| Dark Olive Green | Carp, White Oniontail | ? |
| Deep Sky Blue | Spiny Dogfish | ? |
| Dark Slate Gray | Abdju, Catfish, White Oniontail, Ayu, Spiny Dogfish, Carp | ? |
| Dim Gray | Ayu, Catfish | ? |
| Gainsboro | Perch | ? |
| Golden Rod | Carp | ? |
| Gray | Abdju, Ayu, Catfish, Perch | ? |
| Light Sea Green | Phagrus, Spiny Dogfish | ? |
| Light Slate Gray | Ayu | ? |
| Lime Green | Bay Lobster | <10m |
| Indian Red | River Crab | ? |
| Indigo | Pancake Loach | ? |
| Maroon | Perch | ? |
| Misty Rose | Catfish | ? |
| Olive Drab | Carp | ? |
| Peru | White Oniontail, Chromis | ? |
| Pink | Catfish | ? |
| Plum | Ayu | ? |
| Rosy Brown | Catfish | ? |
| Saddle Brown | River Crab, Chromis | ? |
| Salmon | Ayu | ? |
| Sandy Brown | White Oniontail, Chromis, Carp | ? |
| Sienna | Chromis, River Crab, White Oniontail | ? |
| Silver | Ayu | ? |
| Teal | Spiny Dogfish | ? |
| Thistle | Ayu | ? |
Ayu fish seem to tend to yield scales in the purplish range. -- Hekatef
