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LE GUIDE DE LA PÊCHE

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Le système de pêche dans T5 a été complètement modifié par rapport aux contes précédents. La pêche devient une activité complexe avec des compétences complémentaires associées. La connaissance approfondie non seulement des bons endroits et des bons moments pour pêcher telle ou telle espèce de poissons, mais aussi une connaissance de leurs goûts en matière d'appâts fera la différence entre le pêcheur du dimanche et l'expert averti. Que vous pêchiez pour votre plaisir, pour le "sport" ou par nécessité, ce guide vous apportera quelques réponses. A vos hameçons !!

Compétences

La Pêche à la Mouche

  • La première compétence à apprendre est bien entendu celle de la pêche à la mouche. Elle s'acquiert auprès
    des écoles du Corps Humain et coûte 16 fils et 1 bâton effilé.

L'école vous fournit une canne à pêche de base et vous devenez capable d'en fabriquer une vous-même. A partir de ce moment-là, lorsque vous vous approchez d'une étendue d'eau (mare, lac, rivière ou mer) et si vous avez votre canne à pêche en inventaire, vous voyez apparaître l'icône d'action de la pêche. Vous ne serez toutefois pas en mesure de pêcher si vous n'avez pas de leurres. Vous pouvez bien-sûr en emprunter mais un bon pêcheur se doit de fabriquer ses mouches lui-même.

La Fabrication de Leurres

  • La fabrication de leurres est donc la deuxième compétence à apprendre pour être un pêcheur indépendant. Elle s'apprend à l'école de Vénération et coûte 100 fils et 25 épines pour le 1er degré et comporte 7 degrés.

Vous créez vos appâts via le menu de l'avatar -> compétences. Vous devez avoir au minimum un insecte en inventaire. Les leurres ainsi créés et leur coût dépendent de votre niveau de compétence :

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Type composants Type composants
1er degré Frais 2ème degré Glazed
  • 1 insecte
  • 2 fils
  • 1 épine
  • 1 sève de cactus
3ème degré Preserved
  • 1 insecte
  • 2 fils
  • 1 ficelle
  • 1 épine
  • 5 cires d'abeille
4ème degré Hardened
  • 1 insecte
  • 4 fils
  • 1 ficelle
  • 1 épine
  • 7 salpêtre
5ème degré
6ème degré

Le Dépiautage

NOTE: The fish above must be filleted to get their meat. If you do not fillet within two real life hours they will be Rotten Fish. Filleting in a Kitchen -> Skills -> Fillet Fish yields the highest deben of fish meat compared to filleting from your avatar, Skills -> Fillet Fish, in the field.

Insects/Lures and Fish They Catch

There are rumored to be 49 different species of Insects, split into 7 different classes.

The table below uses the size in debens. Some fish are caught in strings of catches that decrease by 0 or 1 in deben size. For example a 20 deben Malapterurus might have subsequent catches of 19 deben, 18 deben, 18 deben, 17 deben etc down to 1 deben on the same lure. Sometimes it helps to move around as you use the same lure to continue the string.

Non 'string' fishes (usually the original atitd fishes) seem to be caught in a higher deben amount on the first catch and then reduce quickly or straight to to 1 deben. The 1 deben catch amount for that fish on that lure seems not to change unless you switch out lures. ~Ariella

"String" fish change in size like carrots - in waves. They increase in size over time and then decrease in size until they are not caught with that lure in that cycle and will either, change to the next "string" fish - which will start at 1db and slowly increase in size to go through the same type of wave cycle - or the original atitd fish will be caught.

Once a "string" fish is caught, change lures and wait 3-5 minutes before returning to the original lure. You can then determine whether you were in the up cycle or down cycle. If it's the down cycle, keep fishing with that lure (if you want that fish...) until you are at 1db. If it is the up cycle, you can fish for awhile, catching decreasing size fish, as stated above and switch out lures again. Once you return to that lure if it is still in the up cycle, you will catch larger fish in decreasing increments again. Rinse and repeat.

The original fish (abdju, carp, catfish, chromis, perch, phagrus and tilapia) have a mini-wave. After the first catch, that fish will decrease in size when caught again, however, if you switch lures and return to that lure after 7-8 minutes, you will have the chance to catch that same fish at the larger size rather than the smaller size.

I performed a test on 12/26/10 using 13 lures. If I caught a fish on the first cast, I switched lures. If I caught no fish with 3 casts, I switched lures. If I got one of the more likely original fish (catfish or carp) at under 5db, I would try for one of the others and sometimes 2. On 9 successive cycles with 7-8 minutes in between casts using that lure, I caught catfish at 7db on each cast (except for 1 at 8db). On the 10th cast, I stopped with the first fish which was a Pancake Loach starting it's cycle of increasing size. Different lure (Hairy Slug), I caught (10) 4db tilapia. Most of the lures repeated within 1 or 2 db of the original effort. On all 13 lures, I consistently caught the same db fish from the original casts. Note on the "string" fish: Medusafish repeated 20db first 5 times and went down by 1 on each of the next 5 casts. (also occurred with 2 other lures but different starting weight). It seems that it spent about 35 minutes at the top of it's cycle. In the past, there were times when this method didn't work as consistently - possibly time of day or the lure or fishing skill may have an influence. I ran this test with very high speed (34) so that I did not get any of the "almost caught..." messages. ~tefnut

'String' fish: Malapterurus, Octets Longfin.

Knowing the above, good tech lures would be Horned Hookworm, Mud Asp, and Rose Mites. Switch out lures when you catch the fish listed and change locations at the very least once you cycle those lures through once. Make sure to fillet in a Kitchen to maximize the debens of the fish meat and do it quickly after catching and no later than 2 hours after catching or it will be Rotten Fish when you fillet.

For fertilizer fish, choose the 'string' catching lures like Bat Mite, Bristleworm, Needleworm, Red Cricket, White Mealybug. Wait a little more than two hours after catching so when you fillet they are Rotten Fish to use as Flower Fertilizer (3 Rotten Fish yields 50 Flower Fertilizer).


With the Arthropodology skill, can find insects while: Water mining, picking papyrus, collecting wood, thorns, slate, mud, dirt, harvesting flax, diving for pearls, carving wood, foraging, slaughtering sheep

Successful Fishing and Failures

Successful fishing can be improved by using better lures, moving locations often, changing lures when deben of fish goes down to 1. Two techniques might be to be stand in one spot and go through your lures or the lures for the particular fish you want or to move often on the same lure.

Tests with simultaneous 14 Speed and 14 Perception stats from food did not seem to raise the deben size of fish or the number of catches by much if any. ~Ariella

Failure messages:

  • "No fish bit. Try different lures and locations."
  • "You didn't catch anything. Try different lures and locations."
  • "You almost caught an odd fish, but you were too late recognizing the bite."
  • "You almost caught an unusual fish, but you were not quick enough."
  • "You almost caught a strange fish, but this rod was just too clumsy."

There is a chance of losing your lure with each failure. See the chart above for lure lasting times.

Getting a failure message isn't indicative of no fish in the area.

Skill and Lure Costs

NOTE: You must have at least one insect on you to make a lure.

Skill School Degree Level to learn Skill Cost Lure Type Lure Cost Max Casts to Use
Fly Fishing Body First 1 16 Thread, 1 Sharpened Stick
Arthropodology Worship First 2 100 Dirt
Second 5 200 Tadpoles
Third 8 300 Beeswax
Fourth 11 400 Cactus Sap
Fly Tying Worship First 3 100 Thread, 25 Thorns Fresh 1 Insect 2 Thread 1 Thorn 5
Second 6 7 Fruit Maggot, 7 Leafhopper, 7 Nippleworm, 7 Pickel Slug, 7 Rose Mite, 7 Slime Moth, 7 Woolly Aphid Glazed 1 Insect 2 Thread 1 Cactus Sap 1 Thorn
Third 9 14 Clay Slug, 14 Footworm, 14 Honey Fly, 14 Red Cricket, 14 Skinlicker, 14 Snowberry Butterfly, 14 Woodmoth Preserved 1 Insect 2 Thread 5 Beeswax 1 Thorn 2 Thread
Fourth 12 21 Ash Centipede, 21 Grass Slug, 21 Needleworm, 21 Rose Swallowtail, 21 Ruby Hornborrer, 21 White Mealybug, 21 White Sawfly Hardened 1 Insect 2 Thread 7 Saltpeter 1 Thorn 2 Thread 180
Fifth 15 28 Blister Beetle, 28 Bristleworm, 28 Hairy Slug, 28 Horned Hookworm, 28 Leaf Snapper, 28 Nightwing, 28 Salt Mite
Filleting Worship First 3 7 Knife Blade, 7 Phagrus Meat, 20 Common Basil
Second ? 3 Fish Roe, 70 Carp Meat, 25 Salt, 77 Glass Jars


Achievements

  • Found all 7 Tree Dwelling insects.--merek
  • Found all 7 Ground Dwelling insects.--meriamon
  • Found all 7 Water Dwelling Insects. -- NecasT
  • Found all 7 Herb Dwelling Insects. -- Nchanter
  • Found all 7 Livestock Dwelling Insects. -- Chloe


Fish Scales

Scale Color Fish Type Time until Fillet (real time)
Black Ayu, Carp, Catfish, Chromis, Perch, River Crab, Spiny Dogfish, White Oniontail ?
Brown Catfish ?
Cadet Blue Phagrus ?
Crimson Catfish ?
Dark Gray Ayu, Abdju, Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Turquoise Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Green Bay Lobster, Tigerfish < 5mins
Dark Khaki White Oniontail ?
Dark Olive Green Carp, White Oniontail ?
Deep Sky Blue Spiny Dogfish ?
Dark Slate Blue Tilefish ?
Dark Slate Gray Abdju, Catfish, White Oniontail, Ayu, Spiny Dogfish, Carp ?
Dim Gray Ayu, Catfish, Spiny Dogfish ?
Gainsboro Perch ?
Golden Rod Carp ?
Gray Abdju, Ayu, Catfish, Perch ?
Indian Red Abdju. River Crab ?
Indigo Pancake Loach ?
Light Blue Phagrus ?
Lime Green Bay Lobster <10m
Light Sea Green Phagrus, Spiny Dogfish ?
Light Slate Blue Tilapia ?
Light Slate Gray Ayu ?
Maroon Chromis, Perch ?
Medium Aqua Marine Lima Chub ?
Medium Orchid Ayu ?
Misty Rose Catfish ?
Olive Drab Carp ?
Peru White Oniontail, Chromis ?
Pink Catfish ?
Plum Ayu ?
Rosy Brown Catfish ?
Saddle Brown River Crab, Chromis ?
Salmon Ayu ?
Sandy Brown White Oniontail, Chromis, Carp ?
Sienna Chromis, River Crab, White Oniontail ?
Silver Ayu ?
Slate Blue Tilapia ?
Teal Spiny Dogfish ?
Thistle Ayu ?
Violet Red Catfish ?

Ayu fish seem to tend to yield scales in the purplish range. -- Hekatef