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Level: [[level::7]]
  
 
I chose my name as a re-spelling of the Arabic girl's name [http://www.behindthename.com/name/taliba Taliba], meaning "Seeker of Knowledge." I played briefly in Tale 2, and found that my favorite pastime was to work with others to figure out details of game mechanics, so that name seems appropriate. (Though an Arabic name may be less appropriate for ancient than modern Egyptians, I figure it's good enough for ATitD.)
 
I chose my name as a re-spelling of the Arabic girl's name [http://www.behindthename.com/name/taliba Taliba], meaning "Seeker of Knowledge." I played briefly in Tale 2, and found that my favorite pastime was to work with others to figure out details of game mechanics, so that name seems appropriate. (Though an Arabic name may be less appropriate for ancient than modern Egyptians, I figure it's good enough for ATitD.)
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== Favorite Links ==
 
== Favorite Links ==
 
*My [[/Maps|custom maps]]
 
*My [[/Maps|custom maps]]
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*[http://www.atitd.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=34 atitd.org discussion]
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*[[Research Overview|Open Technologies]]
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*[http://rogarian.atitd.org/herbalist2/t5a_herbalist/ Foraging]
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*Other folks' [http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale5/index.php?namespace=0&hidemyself=1&title=Special%3ARecentChanges recent changes]
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*[http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale5/index.php?namespace=1&title=Special%3ARecentChanges Recent wiki discussions]
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*[http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Semantic_search Semantic MediaWiki searching]
 
*[http://wbe01.mibbit.com//?settings=e9c08a0d013e7b4d344d10bb48e89c10&server=irc.sorcery.net&channel=%23atitd-wiki&autoConnect=true IRC wiki chat]
 
*[http://wbe01.mibbit.com//?settings=e9c08a0d013e7b4d344d10bb48e89c10&server=irc.sorcery.net&channel=%23atitd-wiki&autoConnect=true IRC wiki chat]
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*[[Research Overview|Open Technologies]]
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== Subpages ==
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*[[/Maps]]
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*[[/Hookah]]
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*[[/Garlic]]
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*[[/Scratchpad]]
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*[[/Sandbox]]
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== [[/Public Works Trips]] ==
  
 
== To Do ==
 
== To Do ==
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* Build 6 [[Improved Brick Rack]]s
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* Build an [[Empty Hand Puzzle]]
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** 216 [[nails]]
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** {{checkmark}} 5 [[Canvas]] (1+4blocks)
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*** 18 [[iron]]
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** {{checkmark}} 28 [[Cabbage Juice]], 28 [[Carrot Juice]] (4*7)
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*** 80 [[charcoal]]
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** {{checkmark}} 34 [[Rope]] (30+4)
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** 108 [[boards]] + 216 [[bricks]]
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** {{checkmark}} 28 [[Dirt]], 28 [[Grass]] (4*7)
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* Finish figuring out formula for [[Compression Furnace]]s
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** {{checkmark}} 20 [[Dried Flax]]
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* Make 5 [[Carpentry Blade]]s
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** {{checkmark}} 88 [[Limestone]] (60+4blocks*7)
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** 5 [[iron]]
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** {{checkmark}} 108 [[Clay]] (80+4*7)
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** Cast [[Shaping Mallet]], [[Wide Tungsten Chisel]], [[Ball Peen Hammer]]
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** {{checkmark}} 25 [[Thorns]], 50 [[Boards]]
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*** 7 [[beeswax]], 2 [[lead]], 2 [[tungsten]], 3 [[iron]]
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* Make 12 [[Glass Blade]]s (see below for uses)
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* Make [[Hatchet]]
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**{{checkmark}} 12 [[lime]] (use 80 [[limestone]] in a [[firepit]])
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** 20 [[iron]] (or other [[metal]])
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**{{checkmark}} 14 [[soda]]
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* Make [[Iron Shovel]]s with forged [[Shovel Blade]]s (for wiki confirmation
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**{{checkmark}} 120 [[sand]]
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* Make blacksmithed [[shovel]]s
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* Trade for 40 [[Brass]]
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** [[http://www.atitd.org/wiki/tale4/User:Pegasus Pega's T4 Guide]]
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* Make 60 (!) [[Linen]]  
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* Build an [[Obelisk]] for the Principle
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* Make [[Sheet Glass]] until skill is maxed
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* Build 2 [[Hackling Rake]]s
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** 60 [[Normal Glass]] (60 [[Lime]], 120 [[Potash]] from 120 [[Ash]] in [[Kettle]])
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** 120 [[nails]]  
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* Make 54 [[Salt]] for [[Cooking]] and [[Desiccation]] 3rd (from 450 [[Coconut Water]] and at least 460 [[wood]] in [[Kettle]])
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*** 10 [[iron]]
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*** 70 [[charcoal]]
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=== Next Skills to Get ===
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** 36 [[boards]]
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==== [[S Arch]]====
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* [[Fly Tying|Tie flies]] and [[fishing|fish]] in hopes of getting a [[Phagrus]]
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* {{checkmark}} 14 [[Pulley]] ([[Structure Repair]] 2)
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* Build more public [[Flax Hammock]]s (each: 8 [[boards]], 4 [[rope]], 2 [[canvas]] = 47 [[tow]]) on Papy Mountain
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==== [[S Art]] ====
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* Try growing [[wheat]] and [[barley]]
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* 60 [[Linen]] (1600 [[lint]]) ([[Structure Repair]] 3)
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* 5 [[Salt]], {{checkmark}} 1 [[Huge Topaz]] ([[Dessication]]
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==== [[S Body]] ====
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* 200 [[Cut Stone]], {{checkmark}} 200 [[Beeswax]], 200 [[Charcoal]] ([[Structure Repair]] 3)
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==== [[S Thought]] ====
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*{{checkmark}} 50 [[Beeswax]], 50 [[Oil]], 300 [[Bricks]] ([[Structure Maintenance]])
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==== [[S Worsh]] ====
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*{{checkmark}} 100 of each [[Vegetable]] ([[Cooking]])
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* {{checkmark}} 1 [[Huge Ruby]], 10 [[Coconut Water]] ([[Dessication]])
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* 20 [[Common Basil]], {{checkmark}} 7 [[Knife Blade]], 7 [[Filleting|Phagrus Meat]] ([[Filleting]])
  
 
=== Further into the future ===
 
=== Further into the future ===
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* More [[Salvage Techniques]], [[Structure Repair]], [[Structure Maintenance]]
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* Make [[Knife:Iron]]
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* Build a [[Sculpture]] for principle
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**{{checkmark}} [[Knife Blade]]
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* Build an [[Empty Hand Puzzle]]
 
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** Cabbage Juice
 
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** Carrot Juice
 
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* Collect [[Maps/Limestone|Limestone]]
 
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* Make [[Knife:Iron]] ([[Knife Blade]] needs 2 [[iron]])
 
 
** [[Knife:Glass]] ([[Glass Blade]] and 4 [[Rawhide Strip]]s
 
** [[Knife:Glass]] ([[Glass Blade]] and 4 [[Rawhide Strip]]s
 
*** Take [[Soda]], [[Lime]], [[Sand]] to a public glazier's bench)  
 
*** Take [[Soda]], [[Lime]], [[Sand]] to a public glazier's bench)  
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* 7 more iron [[Knife Blade]]s for [[Filleting]]
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* More [[Structure Repair]], [[Structure Maintenance]]
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** 14 [[iron]]
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* 10 more [[Glass Blade]]s for [[Carving]] degree 3
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* 10 more [[Glass Blade]]s for [[Carving]] level 3
 
 
* Another [[Glass Blade]] for a [[Glass Scythe]]
 
* Another [[Glass Blade]] for a [[Glass Scythe]]
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* [[Heavy Mallet]] and 5 [[Lead Chisel]]s for more [[limestone]]
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* Make a [[Basket]] for gathering grass (200 [[Dried Papyrus]])
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** 14 [[lead]] (4 for mallet, and 2 for each chisel)
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* Finish [[Heavy Mallet]] for more [[limestone]] (needs [[Iron Knife]] and [[Carving]] 3rd)
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* Metal for [[Cooperage]]: 2 [[Brass Plate]] and 50 [[Copper Strap]]s
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* Build a [[Water Mine]]
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** 2 [[Brass Plate]] = 40 [[Brass]] = 280 [[copper]] + 40 [[Tin]]
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** 24 [[Glass Pipe]]s (either [[Soda Glass]] or [[Normal Glass]])
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** 50 [[Copper Strap]]s = 150 [[Copper]]
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** [[Large Gear]] (cast from 100 [[Iron]] + 100 [[Beeswax]])
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* [[Brick Machine]] (need to get some [[Concrete]] and calculate metal needs)
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** 4 [[Copper Strap]]s (forged from {{checkmark}} 12 [[copper]])
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** {{checkmark}} 12 [[Pulley]]s
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=== Metals List ===
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* Build a [[Solid Land Tower]]
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* {{checkmark}}60 [[Iron]] (18+5+3+20+10+2...+2)
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** {{checkmark}} 2 [[Canvas]]
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**[[Iron Ore]] -- CF: 5 x 390; BF: 30 x 166
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** {{checkmark}} 8 [[Rope]]
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** Taygete Mine+CF : 1182, 6081 (E of Chariot)
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** {{checkmark}} 1 [[Clay Lamp]]
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** Alcyone Mine+CF : 1783, 2038 (S of Chariot)
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** 20 [[White Sand]]
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* {{checkmark}}16 [[Lead]] (2+14)
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** {{checkmark}} 10 [[Cut Stone]]s
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**[[Lead Ore]] -- CF: 2 x 390 or 2 x 295; BF: 8 x 166
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** {{checkmark}} 1000 [[Bricks]], 7 [[Medium Quartz]]
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** Sterope Mine+CF ; 1924, -1267 (N of Chariot along road)
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* Build a [[Hand of Man Tower]]
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** Taygete ('''no smelting''') 506, 6212 (W of U Worsh near road)
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** {{checkmark}} 2 [[Canvas]]
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* {{checkmark}}2 [[Tungsten]]  
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** {{checkmark}} 8 [[Rope]]
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**[[Tungsten Ore]] -- CF: 1 x 390; BF: 166
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** {{checkmark}} 1 [[Clay Lamp]]
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** Taygete ('''no smelting''') 522, 6203 (W of U Worsh near road)
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** 100 [[Ash]] = lots of [[Dried Papyrus]]
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* {{checkmark}}430 [[copper]]
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** 250 [[Firebricks]]
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** [[Copper Ore]] -- GC: 3; CF: 36 x 430; BF: 215 x 166
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** 4 [[Iron Bars]] (forged from total 8 [[Iron]]
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** Taygete Mine+CF : 775, 5710 (S of Chariot)
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** {{checkmark}} 50 [[Charcoal]], 1000 [[Bricks]], 7 [[Medium Ruby]]
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** Alcyone Mine+CF : 1783, 2038 (S of Chariot)
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* Metal for [[Cooperage]]
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* {{checkmark}}40 [[Tin]]
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** 2 [[Brass Plate]] = 40 [[Brass]] = cast from {{checkmark}} 280 [[copper]] + 40 [[Tin]]
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** [[Tin Ore]] -- GC: 1; CF: 3 x 390; BF: 20 x 166
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** 50 [[Copper Strap]]s = forged from {{checkmark}} 150 [[Copper]]
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** Taygete Mine+CF : 1182, 6081 (E of Chariot)
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* Try growing [[barley]]
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** Alcyone Mine+CF : 1783, 2038 (S of Chariot)
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**[[Grain Fertilizer]]
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**[[Weed Killer]]
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=== Skills Checklist ===
 
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=== [[S Arch]] ===
 
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=== [[S Art]] ===
 
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* 60 [[Linen]] (1600 [[flax]]) ([[Structure Repair]])
 
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=== [[S Body]] ===
 
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* 10 [[Tadpoles]] + 5 [[Flax]] + 1 [[Papyrus]] ([[Ecology]])
 
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* 1000 [[Charcoal]] ([[Salvage Techniques]])
 
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=== [[S Harm]] ===
 
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=== [[S Thought]] ===
 
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* 50 [[Beeswax]], 50 [[Oil]], 300 [[Bricks]] ([[Structure Maintenance]])
 
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=== [[S Worsh]] ===
 
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* Learn [[Cooking]]
 
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** {{checkmark}}100 [[Onions]]
 
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** 100 [[Garlic]]
 
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** {{checkmark}}100 [[Carrots]]
 
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** {{checkmark}}100 [[Cabbage]]s
 
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** {{checkmark}}100 [[Leeks]]
 
  
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== Skills and Techs To Learn (up to level 5)==
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== Available Skills and Techs ==
 
=== Skills===
 
=== Skills===
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==== Not yet Learned at Level 2 ====
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==== {{level|2}} ====
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* Learn [[Cooking]] at [[School of Worship]]
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* [[Cooking]] at [[School of Worship]]
  
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==== Level 3 ====
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==== {{level|3}} ====
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* [[Image:Checkmark.jpg]][[Carving]] degree 2--[[School of Body]] (needs [[Tinder]] and [[Sharpened Stick]]s)
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* [[Filleting]]--[[School of Worship]] (needs [[Knife Blade]], [[Phagrus Meat]], [[Common Basil]]
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* {{checkmark}}[[Fly Tying]]--[[School of Worship]] (needs [[Thread]] and [[Thorns]])
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* [[Desiccation]]--[[S Thought]] ({{checkmark}} 20 [[Sulphurous Water]], 1 [[Huge Quartz]])
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* [[Ecology]]--[[School of Body]] (needs [[Tadpoles]], [[Flax]], [[Papyrus]])
 
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* [[Filleting]]--[[School of Worship]] (needs [[Knife Blade]], [[Fish#Phagrus|Phagrus Meat]], [[Common Basil]]
 
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* [[Ritual Item Construction]]--[[School of Architecture]] (needs [[Linen]], [[Firebricks]], [[Oil]])
 
  
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==== Level 4 ====
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==== {{level|4}} ====
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*[[Salvage Techniques]]--[[S Body]] (needs [[Charcoal]])
 
 
*[[Structure Repair]]--[[S Art]] (needs [[Linen]])
 
*[[Structure Repair]]--[[S Art]] (needs [[Linen]])
 
*[[Structure Maintenance]]--[[S Thought]] (needs [[Beeswax]], [[Oil]], [[Bricks]])
 
*[[Structure Maintenance]]--[[S Thought]] (needs [[Beeswax]], [[Oil]], [[Bricks]])
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* [[Cooking]] (2nd)--[[S Worsh]] (needs [[Common Sage]], [[Thyme]], [[Common Rosemary]]
  
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==== Level 5====
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==== {{level|5}}====
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*{{checkmark}}[[Arthropodology]] (2nd)--[[S Worsh]] ([[Tadpoles]])
 
 
*[[Cooperage]]--[[S Body]] ([[Brass Plate]], [[Copper Straps]], [[Boards]])
 
*[[Cooperage]]--[[S Body]] ([[Brass Plate]], [[Copper Straps]], [[Boards]])
 
*[[The Art of the Pipe]]--[[S Art]] ([[Fine Glass Rods]])
 
*[[The Art of the Pipe]]--[[S Art]] ([[Fine Glass Rods]])
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*[[Desiccation]] (2nd)--[[S Art]] (needs 5 [[Salt]], {{checkmark}} 1 [[Huge Topaz]])
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==== {{level|6}}====
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*[[Carving]] (3rd)--[[S Body]] (Glass Blade, Wooden Peg)
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*[[Fly Tying]] (2nd)--[[S Worsh]] (7 types of insects)
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==== {{level|7}} ====
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*[[Cooking]] (3rd)--[[S Worsh]] ([[Salt]])
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*[[Salvage Techniques]] (3rd)
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*[[Structure Repair]] (3rd)
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*[[Desiccation]] (3rd)--[[S Worsh]] ({{checkmark}} 1 [[Huge Ruby]], 10 [[Coconut Water]])
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==== {{level|8}}====
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* [[Botanical Identification]]--[[S Body]] (7 types of mushrooms)
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* [[Arthropodology]] 3rd--[[S Worsh]] ([[Beeswax]])
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* [[Structure Repair]] 2nd
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* [[Mechanics]]
  
 
===Technologies===
 
===Technologies===
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==== Level 3 ====
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===={{level|6}}====
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* [[Mass Production of Color]]--[[U Art]] (Celaeno)
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*[[Obelisk Construction]] (3rd)--[[U Arch]]
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* {{checkmark}}[[Improved Brick Rack Construction]]--[[U Arch]]
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*[[Advanced Charcoal Production]]--[[U Body]]
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* {{checkmark}}[[Blacksmithing]]--[[U Art]]
 
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* {{checkmark}} [[Barley Cultivation]]--[[U Worsh]]
 
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* {{checkmark}} [[Casting]]--[[U Lead]]
 
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* {{checkmark}}[[Papyrus Paper Fabrication]]--[[U Lead]]
 
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* {{checkmark}}[[Water Mining]]--[[U Thought]]
 
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* {{checkmark}}[[The Science of Color]]--[[U Art]]
 
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==== Level 4 ====
 
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*[[Gem Cutting]]--[[U Thought]] (Celaeno)
 
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*[[Advanced Metallurgy]]--[[U Harm]] (Celaeno, Sterope)
 
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*[[Obelisk Construction 2]]--[[U Arch]] (Sinai, Sterope)
 
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*{{checkmark}}[[Basic Charcoal Production]]--[[U Body]]
 
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*{{checkmark}}[[Basic Chemistry]]--[[U Thought]]
 
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*{{checkmark}}[[Advanced Blacksmithing]]--[[U Art]]
 
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*{{checkmark}}[[Horticulture]]--[[U Worsh]]
 
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*{{checkmark}}[[Dowsing]]--[[U Body]]
 
  
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====Level 5====
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===={{level|8}}====
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*[[Aromatics]]--[[U Body]] (Celaeno)
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*[[Automation]]--[[U Arch]]
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*[[Structural Pottery]]--[[U Thought]] (Celaeno)
 
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*[[Beer Brewing]]--[[U Body]] (Celaeno)
 
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*[[Pyrotechnic Mortar Construction]]--[[U Art]] (Celaeno)
 
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*[[Avian Selection]]--[[U Worsh]] (Celaeno)
 
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*[[Thistle Gardening]]--[[U Worsh]] (Celaeno)
 
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*[[Fine Casting]]--[[U Harm]] (Celaeno)
 
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*{{checkmark}}[[Advanced Glassblowing]]--[[U Art]]
 
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*{{checkmark}}[[Viticulture]]--[[U Worsh]]
 
  
 
== Accomplished ==
 
== Accomplished ==
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I'm now at level 5 -- thanks, Taygete!
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*{{checkmark}} Find a place to live! (based on Public Works)
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* [[Image:Checkmark.jpg]]Find a place to live! (based on Public Works)
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*{{checkmark}} Built and expanded my compound
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* [[Image:Checkmark.jpg]]Built and expanded my compound
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*{{checkmark}} Made [[chest]]s and basic amenities (bricks, boards, flax combs, one [[Small Distaff]])
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* {{checkmark}} Made a [[Camel Pen]] for straw storage
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*{{checkmark}} Made a [[Camel Pen]] for straw storage
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* {{checkmark}} Made [[Apiaries]] (10)
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*{{checkmark}} Made [[Apiaries]] (10)
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* {{checkmark}} Got all [[Vegetable Seeds]] and [[Papyrus Seeds]]
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*{{checkmark}} Got all [[Vegetable Seeds]] and [[Papyrus Seeds]] (traded for Leeks and Papyrus)
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* {{checkmark}} Mined and smelted a huge batch of metal for making [[Tools]] and [[Improved Brick Racks]]
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*{{checkmark}} Harvested and dried my first batch of [[Papyrus]]
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*{{checkmark}} Mined and smelted a huge batch of metal for making [[Tools]] and [[Improved Brick Rack]]s
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*{{checkmark}} Built 9 [[Improved Brick Rack]]s
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*{{checkmark}} Caught a [[Phagrus]] for [[Filleting]] tuition
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*{{checkmark}} Made 50 [[Jugs]] for [[Navigation]]
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*{{checkmark}} Made 5 [[Carpentry Blade]]s
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*{{checkmark}} Made 8 iron [[Knife Blade]]s (tuition and [[Iron Knife]])
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*{{checkmark}} Made 5 [[Lead Chisel]]s
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*{{checkmark}} Made blacksmithed [[hatchet]] and [[shovel]]s
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*{{checkmark}} Built an [[Obelisk]] for the Principle
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*{{checkmark}} Built a [[Sculpture]] for the Principle
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*{{checkmark}} Made [[Iron Poker]], [[Copper Wire]], and more [[Nails]]
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*{{checkmark}} Made [[Hand Loom]] so I don't have to run back and forth to PW
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*{{checkmark}} Made [[Sledgehammer]] and [[Basket]]
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*{{checkmark}} '''Finally''' learned [[Cooking]]
  
 
=== Offline Chores ===
 
=== Offline Chores ===
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*{{checkmark}}Grass
 
*{{checkmark}}Grass
 
*{{checkmark}}Onions
 
*{{checkmark}}Onions
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*{{checkmark}}Wheat
  
 
== Watch out for ==
 
== Watch out for ==
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[[Image:Common Basil.jpg|150px|Common Basil]]
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{| cellspacing="10"
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|-
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| Scrape away the leaf hairs
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| Snip the leaf stems
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|-
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|[[Image:Common Basil.jpg|thumb|150px|Common Basil]]
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|[[Image:Common Rosemary.jpg|thumb|150px|Common Rosemary]]
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|-
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| Scrape away the leaf hairs
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| Scrape off the stem pith
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|-
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|[[Image:Common_Sage.jpg|thumb|150px|Common Sage]]
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|[[Image:Thyme.png|thumb|150px|Thyme]]
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|}
 
[[Image:locust_palm.JPG|150px|Locust Palm]]
 
[[Image:locust_palm.JPG|150px|Locust Palm]]
 
[[Image:pratyeka.JPG|150px|Pratyeka]]
 
[[Image:pratyeka.JPG|150px|Pratyeka]]
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[[Image:Coconut_palm.JPG|150px|Coconut Palm]]
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== Scratch Paper Pages ==
 
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*[[/Scratchpad]]
 
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*[[/Sandbox]]
 

Latest revision as of 16:01, 5 November 2010

Amunet-chariot.jpg

Level: 7

I chose my name as a re-spelling of the Arabic girl's name Taliba, meaning "Seeker of Knowledge." I played briefly in Tale 2, and found that my favorite pastime was to work with others to figure out details of game mechanics, so that name seems appropriate. (Though an Arabic name may be less appropriate for ancient than modern Egyptians, I figure it's good enough for ATitD.)

This tale, I seem to be spending most of my time on the wiki, learning details of how things work, writing up my own to-do list, and cleaning up pages. I've spent most of my time working on integrating Maps into various pages, so if you have a question about those, feel free to use my talk page.

Favorite Links

Subpages

/Public Works Trips

To Do

Next Skills to Get

S Arch

S Art

S Body

S Thought

S Worsh

Further into the future

Available Skills and Techs

Skills

(level 2)

(level 3)

(level 4)

(level 5)

(level 6)

(level 7)

(level 8)

Technologies

(level 6)

(level 8)

Accomplished

Offline Chores

  • Black check.pngWood
  • Black check.pngGrass
  • Black check.pngOnions
  • Black check.pngWheat

Watch out for

Scrape away the leaf hairs Snip the leaf stems
Common Basil
Common Rosemary
Scrape away the leaf hairs Scrape off the stem pith
Common Sage
Thyme

Locust Palm Pratyeka Coconut Palm

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